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TOLl'lE 5. 

Fruited and Published by George Howard, 






No. 1. Page. 

Letter from Wm. S. Shaw, 1 

Joseph H. Hollo way, 4 
Wm. S. Smiih, 

James A. Scott. 5 

Original Proposals for publishing the 

Primitive Baptist, 8 

Letter from Joshua Lawrence, ,, 

Anthony Holloway, 9 

Adam McCreary, 10 

Demcey Burgess, ,, 

Jesse Moore, 11 

Isaac Tillery, ,, 

Wm. McEIvy, 13 

Thos. W. Martin, 14 

Green W. Pugh, 15 

Kindred Braswell, ,, 
No. 2. 

Letter from John W. Pellum, 17 

Sion Bass, IS 

A. Keaton, ,, 

B. B. May, 

Extract from the Minutes of the Ebe- 

nezer Baptist. Association, Alabama, 19 




Letter from Hezekiah West, 

James Southerland, 
Marshal Mc Graw, 
Vachal D. What.ley, 
William Powell, 
B. W. Harget, 
John B. Moses, 
Joel Ferguson, 
Jared Johnson, 
William Price, 
P. Blunt, 
Wm. Croom, 
William Talley, 
No. 3. 

Letter from William Crutcher, 
Pleasant A. Witt, 
French Haggard, 
James F. Watson, 
Jeremiah Kimbal, 

Circular Letter of the Pea Kiver Bap- 
tist Association, Alabama, 

Letter from C. B. Haskell, 
James Osbourn, 
do. do. 

B. Lawrence, 
Jonathan Neel, 







Letter from A. Keaton, 

Circular Letter of the Pilgrim's Rest 
Association, Alabama, 

Letter from Tho. Amis, 
Alfred Ellis, 
James W. Walker, 
Prior Lewis, 
James J. Dickson, 
John Mc Quorquodale, 
No. 4. 

Letter from David Jacks, 

David Rowel!, Jun'r. 
S. W. Harris, 
R. Rorer, 
R. B. Mann, 
William Thomas, 
James H. Sasser, 
Michael Burkhalter, 
Burwell Temple, 
W. W. Pool, 
James J.Dickson, 
Willis Beckham, 
Abraham Botters, 
William Moseley, 
No. 5. 

Letter from Vachal D. Whatley, 
Rudolph Rorer, 
John Lassettcr, 
Willie J. Sorelle, 

Extract from the Minutes of the Ma- 
cedonia Baptist Association, Ala- 

Letter from Thomas Low, 
Joel Hardia, 

Resolutions of Mt. Zion church, Vir- 

Letter from John L. Simpson, 
Robert Burk, 
C. B. Hassell, 
Stephen 1. Chandler, 
J no. Timmons, 
John Stroud, 
Josiah M. Lauderdale, 
Thornton Rice, 
Jesse McCoin, 
No. 6. 

Letter from Elisha Carter, 

Thomas L. Roberts, 
Adam Jones, 
Nathan Tims, 










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Letter from Edward Jones, 

Marshal McGraw, 
James M. Philips, 
Benjamin C. Burns, 
C. B. Bassell, 
Isaac Tillery, 
William Burns, 
John L. Simpson, 
David W. Patman, 
Ira E. Doulhit, 
James P. Ellis, 
Edmund Dumas, 
Harris Wilkerson, 
No. 7. 

Letter from James Alderman, 
" Allen Ellis, 
Thos. Paxton, 
C. B. Hassell, 
Jona. Miekle, 
Josiah Stovall, 
Wm. II. Cook, 
demons Saunders, 
Malhew D. Holsonbake, 
Joseph Erwin, 
R. S. Hamriek, 
William Chirk, 
No. S. 

Letter from Asa McCrary, 
Rudolph Rorer, 
Henry Hilliard, 
John B. Williams, 
John Scallorn, 
C. B. Hassell, 
Mark Bennett, 
Jno. You mans, 
William Thomas, 
Charles Carter, 
Anthony Holloway, 
Jared Johnson, 
No. 9. 

Letter from Jamrs K. Jacks, 
It. W. Carlisle, 
Simpson Parks, 
Arthur W. Eanes, 
C. B. Hassell, 
Mark Bennett, 

Extract, from the Correspondent, 

Letter from Andrew Westmoreland, 
Mark Meclammy, 
A. D. Cooper, 
Edmund Dumas, 
C. Carter, 
Asa Edwards, 
No. 10. 

Letter from Samuel Clark, 
Thos. Paxton, 
James Gray, 

























from C. B. Haskell, 


Isaac Tillery, 


Asa Bell, Sen'r. 


James Hollingsworth, 


John Scallorn, 


T. J. Bazemore, 


J. M. Lauderdale, 


No. 11. 

from David Johnson, 


C. T. Echols, 


C. B. Haskell, 


Mark Bennett, 


J. W. Dove, 


John W. Turner, 


Graddy Herring, 


Samuel C. Johnson, 


John Lassetter, 


B. P. Rouse, 


No. 12. 

from Jno. Youmar.s, 


John Wayne, 


Enoch Bell, 


Henry Barron, 


Jas. H. Sasser, 


Isaac Tillery, 


P»Iarshal McGraw, 


Levi B. Hunt, 


Nelson Canterherry, 


John F. Hagan, 


Nathan Morris, 

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Adam McCreary, 


Josiah Gresham, 


No. 13. 

from William Moseley, 


William S. Smith, . 


Rudolph Rorer,. 


Wm. S. Shaw, 


Benjamin May, 


Joshua Lawrence, 

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John Brown, 


Blake B. Rutland, 


No. 14. 

from A. Kenton, 


R. S. Hamhrick, 


Wm. McHee, 


Thos. J. Bazemore, 


Joshua Lawrence, 


Mark Bennett, 


Petegrew Moore, 


Isaiah Moore, 

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Henry Petty, 


John McKenzie, Sen'r. 


Marshal McGraw, 


No. 15. 

from William Moseley, 


John W. Pellum. 


James llcmbrce. Sen'r. 




Letter from Wm. II y man, 


Samuel Tatam, 

C. B. Hassell, 

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A witness of the 16th Century, 

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Letter from James Osbourn, 


Jacob G. Bowers, 


Daniel Gafford, 


Luke Stevens, 


Wm. Bowdcn, 

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Asa Edwards, 


No. 10. 

Letter from John W. Turner, 


A. Keaton, * 


Marshal McGuaw, 


Jos. Biggs, Sen'r. 


Jsaao Tillery, 


Evin R. Harris, 


W. B. Mullens, 


Eiiiott Thoma°, 


Wm. Hendiickson, 


• Nathan Morris, 

252 ( 

Geo. W. Jeter, 


A witness of the 16th Ceniury, 


James M. Philips, 


A. Robertson, 


No. 17. 

Letter from Lewis Peacock, 


Wm. Devlin, 


Joiia. Mickle, 


Rudolph Rcrer, 


W. M. Rushing, 


Vineent Bell, 


Tyna Reeves, 


Temple Sargent, 


Wm. B. Baker, 


Robert Gregory, 


Demsey Bennett, 


No. 18. 

Lett cr from Lul e Haynie, 


Simpson Parks, 


James Hollo way, 


James Wol lings worthy 


Maik Prewttt, 


Mark B< noclt, 


L. Philips, 


John M, Pearson, 


Thornton Rice, 

Wm. M C Bee, 


Jacob G. Bowers, 


Anthony Hollovyay, 


John F. H.igin, 


James Bush, 


Wale A. Vawlcr, 


No. 1 9. 

Letter from James M. Ruckmore, 


Wm. Mc Bee, 


J. G. Walker, ' 


Noel Lav\ lion, 


233, Letter from Marshal Mc Graw, 294 
William Thomas, ,, 

Abel Farmer, 297 

Thomas Mathews, 29S 
Martha A. Walker, ,, 

David VV. Pat man, 299 

Thomas Paxtori, 302 
No 20. 

Letter from Vachal D. Whatley, 305 

P D. Talman, 308 
James Osbourn, ,, 

A witness of theToth c ntury, 310 

Letter from Samuel V> eavjr, 31 1 

John G;«. den, 312 

Isaac Tiler/, 313 

John L Simpson, 314 

John Brown, 31 5 

James K. Jacl<s, 31 6 

E. A. Meaders, 319 
No. 21. 

252 \ Letter from Nathan Morn's, 221 

Samuel Hagg-ril, 323 

James McCreless, 324 

Jonathan Mickle, 325 
North Berwick, in the 

S'ate of Maine, ,, 

Win. D. Taylor, 327 

C. T. Sawyer, 32S 
J no. W. White, ,, 

Cirouiar Letter of ihe Kchukee Bap- 
tist Association, N. Carolina, 329 

Letter from G.inot, Maihevvs, 330 

Vachn! D. Whatley, 331 

Jas. F. Watson, 332 
Abrier Ervin, »3S3 

Wm. E Pope, 334 

Philip May, 335 

Nc 22. 

Letter from F. Pickelt, 337 
M;ithewD. Holsonbake, 33S 
Jonathan Mickle, „ 

Arthur W.. Eanes, 342 

Henry Willianis, 3 it 
Wm. Thigpen, ,. 

Circular L< tter of the Cor.tentnea 

Baptist Association, N. Carolina, 346 

Lette-rfiomE 0. Hawthorn, 348 

A witness of the 16. h Century, 351 

No. 2 3. 

Letter from A. Keaton, - 653 

Thos. Paxion, 357 

John L. Simpson, 362 

French Haggard, 363 
Extract from the Minutes" of the To- 
waliga Primitive Baptist Associa- 
tion, Georgia, ,, 

Letter frotn John Davidson, 366 

William Nelson, 367 


No. 24. jLetter from Joshua Lawrence 

Extract from the Minutes of t he South Mark Bennett 

Carolina Primitive Baptist Associ'n, 3&9 ; 





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No. 1. 




South Carolina, Anderson district, } 
.215/ Sept. 1839. \ 
Dear Brethren: In pursuance of a 
promise that I would pursue the Saluda 
Association's acts, and give further details 
of her manoeuvring, I again commence the 
to me unpleasant task. I left her in my 
former communication in 1834, after she j 
had adopted the missionary circular of 
which I wrote. This letter effected almost i 
miracles,' for in her session of '35, she lack- 
ed perhaps one vote of joining Sanball.d 
and Tohiah again. They however con- 
sented to send the question, whelher they 
join or not, back to the churches for one 
year's consideration; their leading members 
as I understood, standing pledged to abide 
their decision. A pretty fair promise, af- 
ter being out voted. During this year, a 
year long to be remembered in the annals 
of our Association, being almost entirely 
devoted to electioneering and prose!} ting, 
the churches I believe without exception, 
took the matter under consideration, and 
at our next annual meeting of '38, sent up 
as requested their decision. Nineteen 
churches out of twenty-six, for that was 
our standing number at that time, said they 
wished to have nothing to do with the State 

At some session, I misremember which, 
and as I have no minute of that body be- 
fore me at this time I cannot be positive, 
but believe it was that of '35, they had 
changed our associational sermon into 
what they called a charity sermon, to pre- 
pare the minds of the people for throwing 

in their money to help the Lord against 
the mightv. This lecture, (for sermon 
I cannot call it,) is generally delivered on 
Sunday when the congregations are largest, 
and by their fastest ponies too, (if I may 
use the expression;) after which the hat 
is handed round to get their article for sa- 
ving souls, making preachers, &c. (viz:) 
gold and silver, or their equivalent. 
Hitherto this part of their system was car- 
ried on through auxilary societies? 

I was a delegate in '35, sent from Bethes- 
da church, and never left my seat whilst 
any business was transacting in the Associ- 
ation. 1 heard the letters read out from 
the different churches, and was not a little- 
pleased to hear the independent language 
of some of them. A motion was offered 
with a second, to dispense with their char- 
ity sermon and collection; but it was im- 
possible to get a vote upon that question. 
It was declared to be now open for debate," 
which I suppose was correct according to 
our discipline. And of all the debating' 
that ever I heard, this far exceeded any. 
Brethren would rise, and in place of com- 
ing fairly up to the question, would spend 
| their time in vituperation and viilifying 
ithe mover; and in trying to prove that 
j true charity consisted in throwing in our 
[ money, &'c. 

But, dear brethren, in the 13\h chap, of 
' 1st Cor. we have St. Paul's notions as fol- 
jlows: 1st verse, Though I speak with the 
■ tongues of men and angels, and have not 
i charity, I am become as sounding brass or 
|a tinkling cymbal. And though I have 
the gift of prophecy, and understand alt 
mysteries, and all knowledge; and though 
I have all faith, so that I could remove 
mountains, and have not charity, 1 am noth- 
ing. And though I bestow all my goods 
to feed the poor, and though 1 give my 


body to be burned, and bave not charity, 
it profiteth me nothing. Charity, suffer- 
ed) long, and is kind; charity Vau-nteth 
not itself, is not puffed up". Again, 7th 
verse: Beareth all things, believeth all 
things, endureth all tilings. Charity nev- 
er failelh: but whether there be tongues, 
they shall cease; whether there be know- 
ledge, it shall vanish away. For we know 
in part, and we prophecy in part. But 
when that which is perfect is come, (no 
doubt with me, meaning Paul's sort of 
charity,) then that which is- in part shall be 
done away. 

Such is the contrast between their sys- 
tem of charity and St. Paul's, that I deem 
comment unnecessary. And I will only 
mention a circumstance that turned up at 
one of our Associations. An old brother 
called one of his sons, a lad of nine or ten 
years old, to him, just before the hat was 
handed round, (to get their sacred means,) 
and gave him two dollars, telling him to 
put it into the hat. Afterwards, whilst 
this old father and a number of other 
brethren, who had gone with him to spend 
the night, were in chat, he called his little 
boy and told the brethren that his little son 
had put in two dollars. Brethren, I bare- 
ly mention this affair, that, you may see 
how near akin such acts are, to that chari- 
ty that vaunleth not itself, and is not puff- 
ed up. ("But when thou doest alms, let not 
thy left hand know what thy right hand 
doeth.") And it may further leach us, that 
the Baptists, oj at least some of them, are 
as easily bewitched in this our day of 
great improvement, as were the Samari- 
tans. Ah! and for the same purpose too, 
money; and by the same instruments, the 
great ones of the land — for "Simon had, it 
seems, given out that himself was some 
great one." 

But to return to our proceedings. Af- 
ter a considerable time spent in confusion, 
a motion to adjourn for dinner prevailed, 
and it was suggested by some one, that du- 
ring this respite the parties could have a 
private conference. We re assembled, 
and it occurred that there was a misunder- 
standing as to the compromise. The mo.- 
ver to disagnse with their "charity sermon 
and collection," held to his integrity. A 
very prominent member of the opposite 
side at length arose, and after saying a 
good deal about parliamentary usages, he 
insisted that amendments might be offered 
to any motion under the consideration of 
any body of men; and as such, he offered 

a motion to - strike out the whole of the firsi 
resolution, except the first word, (Resolv- 
ed,) and insert an entire counter resolve. 
This, as might be expected', created consi- 
derable excitement. Discovering as I have 
no doubt he did, that this would lead to 
the enquiry, if it would not be right ia 
know whether the first mover would ac- 
cept of this as an amendment to his mo- 
tion, he very soon abandoned his position 
by withdrawing his first motion and offer- 
ing another, which he said he would not 
withdraw; and that was, an entire post- 
ponement of the whole matter until our 
next A -sociation. And to get clear of fur- 
ther strife and confusion, his last motion 

But hardly had the sound of the voices 
on the last vote had time to die away, ere 
he rises and moves that a certain brother, 
naming him, be appointed to preach a cha- 
rity sermon for the next Association. This 
last step created greater confusion than ev- 
er, and in fact, some of the brethren turn- 
ed off disgusted, and had little or nothing 
more to do with the proceedings during 
the session. Amidst this state of unp;>ral- 
lelled distraction in a Baptist Association, 
several resolutions were offered and passed 
into acts, the import of which 1 do not at 
this lime recollect. But, ere long, this be- 
ing Saturday evening, we adjourned untiJ 

Nothing more of any importance was 
done this session, save the passing a law 
ordering their little collection which they 
made on Sunday to be transferred to their 
mother institution, (Mystery Babylon,) or 
the State Convention. This fund was to 
be handed over to the acting Secretary of 
thai body. 

On Sunday, the great charily sermon 
was to be preached; and at the appointed 
lime, up comes their champion with his 
books, (mighty near as tall in his own con- 
ceit as Goliah of Gath. ) And as if to put 
the matter entirely be)ond a question, he 
takes the following scripture for a text, 
Romans, lGih chap. 14th and pari of 15th 
verses: "How then shall they call on him 
in whom they have not believed? and how 
shall l hey believe in him of whom they 
have not heard? and how shall they hear 
without a preacher? and how shall they 
pi each, except they be sent?" He first es- 
tablished according to his arguments, which 
were pretty ingeniously handled, that 
there were nations of people among whom 
the gospel had neveV been pre*ohed, and 


foroduced several passages of scripture 
S'rom which he drew what he called raiion- 
al inferences that this was a Fact. But 1 
believe neither- of the following passages 
were quoted by him: Last chapter of Mark; 
last verse: "And they went forlh and 
preached every where." And again, in 
the same chap, with his text, only three 
verses below it: '-But 1 say, have they not 
beard? Yes verily, their sound went into 
all the earth, and their words unto the ends 
of the world. Again, 1st chap. Colos- 
sians, 5lh and part of 6th verses: '-For the 
hope which is laid up for you in heavenj 
whereof ye heard before in the word of the 
truth of the gospel; which is come unto 
you, as it is in all the world." 23rd verse 
same chnp. : "If ye continue in the faith 
grounded and settled, and be not moved 
away from the hope of the gospel, which 
ye have heard, and which was preached to 
every creatutie which is under heaven; 
whereof I Paul am made a minister." Had 
these, and such scriptures as these, have 
had their full weight in his imaginary dis- 
course, methinks the matter would have 
been put beyond a question sure enough. 

He next assumes it to be the province of 
the churches and their societies to send the 
preachers, saying, that he himself once be- 
lieved as a great many of his brethren did} 
that the preacher was dependant on God 
for assistance in preaching; but latterly, 
had become convicted, that it was a matter 
of their own concern, and that they could 
and must preach of their own accord. And 
in order that the preachers might be sent 
off in pretty good style, ha recommends 
that the brethren should divide their farms 
into ten parts, and throw in one part to 
help the Lord. In searching for scripture 
to prove all this, he comes out in about 
this language, that God had in many pla- 
ces in his holy Book spoken ironically, or 
in other words, did not mean what he said 
at all times, and quotes the circumstance of 
Abraham's being ordered to offer up Isaac; 
and as the lad was not actually slain, he in- 
fers that be was not offered up, and he here 
positively asserts, that ill this instance God 
did not mean what he said. 

I was aware, that if he succeeded in es- 
tablishing the above premises, that he 
would be obliged to kill or mutilate the 
scriptures; but was unapprised that a mere 
man could be found, who would dare call 
in question, and that on the stand attempt- 
ing to preach that, word whereof it has 
been spoken, "That heaven and earth shall 

pass away, but not one jot or one tittle of 
that word shall in any wise fail, until all bei 
fulfilled." But fortunately for the Chris* 
tian's hope, and the peace of the church, 
St. Paul and this gentleman disagree a lit- 
tle on this point, as well as many others; 
for in the 11th chap. Hebrews, 17th verse 
it reads thus: "By faith Abraham when he 
was tried offered up Isaac, and he that had 
received the promises offered up his only 
begotten son." 

About this time I left the stand, and am 
disposed right hs.'re to leave the gentleman, 
only as he may stand implicated in the few 
general remarks I may make Upon their 
system. After this celebrated discourse, 
such was the anxiety, confusion and dis- 
tress manifested, that several very worthy 
brethren struck their tents, loaded their 
wagon*, and Sunday evening as it was, left 
for their homes. 

At their next session, Bethesda church, 
at the instance of some of our missionary 
brethren, sent up a letter of remonstrance; 
which having no avail, we passed a re- 
solve in our church to drop our correspon- 
dence with that body, until she retracted 
her errors, which we set down as her con- 
nexion with the State Convention, the 
missionary schemes, and all their concomi- 
tants. This through the minority of our 
church, brought a committee from the As- 
sociation down upon us, and entangled 
some of our members; and the result was* 
a majority o? our church agreed to continue 
with' that body. The Old School breth- 
ren, now the minority, submit. But some 
ten of us drew letters, ami on last May 
were re established into a church upon our 
original faith, constitution, and covenant oi 
love. We have "Come out f'-orri among 
them," declared a non-fellowship wiih 
all their church moneyed institutions and 
their advocates, and we are made to praise 
God in our hearts for his goodness to us in 
restoring us again to that peace which had 
been so long absent from us as a church; 
and for convincing our brethren,. so that 
eight more of them have since joined us. 

One word as respects their societies, that 
we may have some little idea of what sort 
of preachers they will furnish the church- 
es by their enactments. Their members 
are debarred from tasting spirits, but one 
of their leading members has been known 
to carry a boil of red pepper in his pocket, 
go into the bar, call for his glass and out 
with his pepper boll, dip it intohisliqut r, 
drain it and pocket his pepper lor apolhei 



go, and drink off his glass thus prepared 
quite merrily. This is hardly fair play, 
for the understrappers or private members 
being as much as possible kept secret. A 
gain, these society chaps urge that the 
Baptist denomination should by alt means 
be united; for, say they, if we were, we 
could by joint effort eai ry any election. 

But, brethren, I have not room to enume- 
rate one half of the fantastical insinuations, 
and in conclusion would say, that I do 
hereby disclaim every idea, wish, or inten- 
tion to traduce or defame that body, or a 
single individual member of it. But as 
they have in their minutes given only the 
effects, I have felt inclined, as we have se- 
parated, to give some of the cauges that 
have led to those effects, that our brethren 
generally may see by what tenure they 
hold their, predominance. 

Our little paper the "Primitive Bap- 
tist," which has done so much good in the 
hands of God in bringing the churches out 
of that worse than Egyptian bondage, their 
entanglements with those society systems, 
comes regularly to hand, and is sought for 
by the Oid School brethren generally with 
great apparent anxiety. The subscribers 
at our office express themselves as well 
pleased, both as respects the matter they 
contain and the prompt and neat style in 
which they are published. After having 
tried it now nearly for a whole year,- with- 
out any established Editor, they express 
themselves as perfectly satisfied, and their 
only regret as well as mine is, that we have 
lost our brother Mark Bennett. For since 
he has retired from the editorial depart- 
ment of our paper, it seems that lie does 
not write any for us at all. And we doubt 
if he does not write a little once in a while 
£>r us, the missionaries will be by him as 
they were by old brother Moseley, they 
will claim him also. 

I must desist by saying, when it goes 
well with you, my brethren, remember 
us; when you are in possession of those 
lively sensations, which I am persuaded all 
God s children at times enjoy, when those 
refreshing seasons shall come to you from 
(he presence of the Lord; then remember 
and pray for us. Yours as ever. 


is the first time 1 have ever taken my pert 
in hand, to drop a few lines to you. Af- 
ter reading and hearing read several num- 
bers of vour paper, I say to you that 1 am 
well pleasead with them. 

Dear brethren Editors, I feel to claim 
kin with the gospel views of my worthy 
brethren in the Lord, ifl be worthy as a 
poor Old Baptist, one that is destitute of 
education. When I first was enabled to 
claim a hope in the Lord Jesus Christ, I 
could not read any; and but little yet, for 
I am not a very apt scholar. Though I 
have been a Baptist little the rise of fifteen 
years, they are the people whom I have 
ever loved, and believed to be God's peo- 
ple. 1 did believe thatthe Baptist church 
when I joined it was censtiiuted upon the' 
principles of the gospel of our Ljrd Jesus 
Christ; and their rule of faith by which 
they were governed were such, as well as I 
understood them, as I highly approved of, 
and do yet approve of them. 

I must come to a clo;-e, as my light is 
not very good. 

Dear brethren, one and all, I beg an in- 
terest in your prayers at a throne of grace. 
So nothing more till the next time. 



.fllabama, Madison coiinty, } 
October 11, 1839. 5 
Dear Brethren in the Lord: This 

to editors primitive baptist. 

Franklin county, Tennessee, Y 
29th Nov. 1SS9. y 

Brethren Editors: May grace and' 
truth be multiplied. I once more lake my 
seat by my fireside, to write a few lines 
for the Primitive. One reason that I have 
not written before, 1 see it so full of good 
things and the dates appear so far behind 
that of the paper, that 1 concluded that a 
poor old bungler like myself had .better do" 
like I wish to at the churches I attend, 
when the brethren preachers come to see 
me, set by and pat my foot saying, well 
done. Though it is but of late that this 
has been my condition, for there has here- 
tofore been a great many uncertain sounds 
among the Baptists 

As I write as things offer to my mind, I 
wiiltry to show my opinion as regards the 
worship of God, that seems to call forih 
the service of so many in these days. Je- 
sus says: They that worship the Father 
must do it in spirit and in truth. Hence I 
cannot conceive, that any of Adam's long 
line since his transgression, have ever wor* 
shipped God according to the meaning of 
the above text, but those that are born 


again; which is by the influence of God's 
spirit in their hearts, thus having received 
the spirit of adoption, they cry, Abha, Fa- 

Again, let us notice that Jesus was in 
conversation with the woman of Samaria. 
He let her know in plain words, that it 
was not in that mountain, neither at Jeru- 
salem, that God was to be worshipped now. 
As much as to say, the old dispensation is 
passed away, the new has succeeded. And 
as Paul says to the Hebrews: There being 
a change in the priesthood, there is a 
change in the law also. I believe from 
scripture, that even the saints who alone 
can worship God, cannot Ho that in the 
full sense of the test, (i. e.) in spirit Mid 
also in truth, only by obeying his com- 
mands, and to do that we must refer to the 
last Will and Testament of our Lord Jesus 
Christ. And if we do not do what we call 
religious duties, according to the pattern 
that is laid down there, it will not be wor- 
shipping God, but the creature that has 
given the precept or example. Hence, 

many mors. Paul said to one church, that 
in Christ Jesus he had begotten them thro' 
the gospel. But 0, how many are begotten 
through error in this day; how many pro- 
fessors of religion are saying, encourage all 
to preach, and many are trying to imore s 
the minds of the people with the ; ief, 
that we that stand in opposition of the lo 
here, and lo there, are enemies to ihe 
spread of the gospel. I acknowledge lo; 
one, that 1 am opposed to the spread of lies, 
and have been doing all 1 can for near eigh- 
teen years to stop them, by setting up 
truth; part of that time from the pulpit. 
And if actions speak louder than words, 
the people know by the two witnesses 
whether I am opposed to the spread of the 
gospel or not. I have heard witnesses 
sworn in a court of justice, they are to tell 
the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 
Now if one was to tell part truth and keep 
part back, or part true and part false, is ei- 
ther of these to be credited? And if one 
waj» self interested, is his testimony good? 

1 say not. Therefore I call no man a gos- 
when saints are taught wrong, and act ac- I pel preacher according to God's word, that 
cording, they ara not worshipping in truth; preaches part truth, part false, and is tea- 
and, in my opinion, if they feel uncon- idling for doctrine (he commandments of 
demned in their act, or even fee! what men; or, those who are preaching for hire, 
they may call the answer of a good con- j as they are self interested. 1 hope that 
science, it is only fleshy evidence accord- , there are some engaged in this way of 
jng to fleshy teaching. And they certain- | worship, falsely so called, that are wor- 
ly will feel their heavenly Father's chas- I shippers in spirit. 

lening rod sooner or later in this life, for | I see that my sheet is most full, and I 
Jesus has said, he that, knows his master's have but just entered into the merits of 
will and does it not shall hive many ■ my subject. 1 therefore feel to finish 
stripes; and he that knows it not, and does hereafter, and when there is room put this 
things worthy of stripe3, shall receive in your paper and say, to be continued, 
few. 1 subscribe my i elf a poor qld afflicted 

I will now say that I have been reading Baptist, and a well wisher to their cause, 
the Bible ever since I could rear! any bock, which Is God's, 

which has been the rise of thirty yeais. I JVM. S. SMITH. 

find nothing there that will authorize any 
person to pour or sprinkle water even on 
an adult, and call it baptism. As regards 
sprinkling of infants, those that practised 
it when I was a boy, living in Caswell 
county, North Carolina, enly called it chris- 
tening; but where I am now, they have 
the assurance to call it baptism. The fact 
is, men of all names or sects are preaching 
what they call gospel teaching, and practi- 
sing things that they have not a thus saith 
the Lord for. 

If I know what the gospel is, it is Jesus 
and him crucified in the spirit; and what 
he has taught us, do as his followers in his 
word. But as there were religious crafts- 
men in the apostles' day, vve may expect 


Malta county, Mississippi, > 
July 22d, 1839. $ 
Brethren Editors: From the special 
acquaintance and relationship existing be- 
tween you and me, not that I ever saw 
many of your faces, but from reading a few 
numbers of the winged messenger called 
the Primitive, which gave me knowledge 
of your personal names, spiritually we 
were related when God loved and chose 
his people. And the prophets and apos- 
tles tell from infallible inspiration, it was 
an everlasting love, and before the founda- 
tion of tHe world. And the Holy Ghost is 


a witness unto us, which if the more sure 
word of prophecy that Peler speaks of, 
that ye would do well to take heed unto as 
a light thai shineth in a dark place. 

It is wrilten again, that the children of 
the flesh are not the children of God; but 
the children of the promise are com riled for 
the seed. Again, that as the children were 
partakers of flesh and biood, he also took 
part of the same. Again, all we like sheep 
have gone astray, and the Lord hath laid 
on him the iniquity of us all. And, thou 
shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save 
his people from their sins. And Ihus it is 
wrilten, and thus it behoved Christ to suf- 
fer and to rise from the dead the third day; 
and that repentance and remission of sins 
should be preached in his name arneng all 
'nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And 
wisuum is to be justified of all her chil- 

And now, brethren, if the heathen are 
going to hell for the Want of the gospel, the 
counsel of God is not immutable and he is 
slack concerning his promises; which is 
damnable heresy to the highest, degree. 
Again, pray ye the Lord of I he harvest lo 
send more laborers. But the missionaries 
say, they are engaged in sending the la- 
borer; which is the spirit of antichrist — 
and that upon other people's expenses, I 
which is priestcraft. They also assume 
the authority and prerogative of qualifying 
for the gospel ministry, which is — what 
shall I say? denying or blaspheming 
egiinstthe Holy Ghost, or exalting them- 
selves above all that is called God. But 
the Book says, that God makes able min- 
isters ©f the New Testament, and he would 
preoare fishers and hunters, &c. And that 
the world by wisdom knew not God. 

And, my brethren and sisters too, you 
know that God revealed by his spirit to 
you, what you know of the things of God. 
You cannot give to any man the glory, nor 

part of it. There was no hireling priest 
then to whom you had paid money, on 
which consideration you were taught re- 
pentance toward God and faiih in the Lord 
Jesus Christ You know belter. And 
5*ou that profess lo be the followers of; 
Christ and know no DRttlr, your heart is 
net pjghi in the sight of God. Thinkest 
thou . h..t (he gift of God is purchased with 
money? The" law that was lo govern the 
govne] ministry was: Freely ye have re- 
ceived, freely give. Do not say that, that 
law has ever been changed by the great 
Javygker- but by the religious merchants. 

Now, my dear brethren th:.t have been 
called to the ministry, was it: Go, and if 
you can make a living at it, keep on; but 
if not, go to some other occupation, the 
curse be upon (lie people — the church adul- 
terate, and the heathen perish, hut you are 
free? But did not God, by that spirit that 
quickened you and applied ihe word which 
is so poweiful, and discovers the thoughts 
and intents of the heart, and shows you 
what an imperfect being you are by that 
which is perfect, so that you were slain and 
cried out, I am a dead man? Old Isaiah 
said: Woe is me, I am undone; for I am a 
man of unclean lips. &c. And i he poor 
publican smote on his breast, with his head 
not as high as a missionary, God be merci- 
ful to me a sinner. The thief on the cross 
said: Lord, remember me when thou earn- 
est into thy kingdom.- Right heie 1 shall 
say, a natural man never repented nor re- 
ceived grace. 

Now, brethren, you and those above na- 
med characters, and me and all others that 
ever were quickened or ever will be, are 
mourners indeed, true penitents. Pre- 
cisely the way that God said by his proph- 
et Zechariah, ch. xii. verses 10 and 13: 
He would bring the house of David, and 
the inhabitants of Jerusalem — he poured 
upon them and us the spirit of grace and 
supplication, and we were mourners sepa- 
rately and apart. The wife could not help 
the husband, nor ihe husband the wife: but 
each one mourns for their own sins. Nei- 
ther will the faith of one do for another, 
for God's people are to know him, from 
the least to the greatest; and the Lord will 
hasten it in its time and his time. For Saul 
was about midday, and the woman at the 
well about the sixth hour, and the time for 
the malefactor just before his departure — 
and his time f >r wretched me, abftut bed 

Excuse my digression, as I am a ftltle 
cripple, aged thirty-four years last March 
the 8th, and was born about eight years 
ago, and began to talk about four years or 
better ago. And about the time I began to 
talk, there was a missionary or two walked 
over me rough shod, and affected my 
speech for sometime. But thank God, that 
sways the sceplies of heaven and earth, the 
wound is healed and I am on one loot, 
guarding and feeding a liiilc fleck of my 
master's sheep, and my ipeech is better 
than it was before; so that 1 can make a 
kind of noise that keeps of the. sheep- 
catching wolves. There are a few hog- 


catching ones, but I do not care for that; (with the power of irresistible attraction, 

my master does not claim any of that spe 

But to return to my preiching. Breth- 
ren, did not thut.spirit teach you the neces- 
sity of the work and importance, having in 
it the glory of God and ihe salvation of im- 
mortal souls, so that the task was too ardu- 
ous — Lord, send by another, I am inade- 
quate for the work — let your education 
have been what it may? But God did not 
slop here, but taught you by the selfsame 
spirit, that the salvation of immortal souls 
and the glory of God, was not dependent 
on your ability; but that you were entirely 
dependent on his ability, and that he choo- 
ses the foolii-h things and the weak things 
of the world to confound the wise and 
mighty, and that no flesh dare glory in his 

We now begin to merge forth upon the 
principle of election and predestination; 
this being consistent with the nature of the 
living and true God, by whose spirit we 

draws them all to the centre until they all 
shall be perfect in one. 

Now you see the relationship subsisting 
between Christ and the elect, has its origin 
in the sovereign and immutable love of 
God. This love knew no beginning, and 
is as durable as eternity. It tempers and 
harmonises every link in cur salvation; it 
exhibits its divine excellence in every 
grace, of the spirit, and displays its un- 
equalled glory in the sweet concord of 
mercy and justice in all the system of re- 
demption, justification, pardon, perseve- 
rance and glory. And while God is love 
he will hold his elect within hi* omnipo- 
tent grasp, and none is able to pluck them 
out of his hands. This love lakes our af- 
fections captive, and we love him (God) 
because he first loved us. 

Now you that say the heathen are going 
to hell for the want of preachers and money, 
I would be glad if consistent with the will 
of heaven, to make you sorry with that 

are guided, he being infinite in wisdom and J sorrow that would bring you to the feet of 
almighty in power — proclaiming the glad j the Saviour, and acknowledge him the king 
tidings of salvation, being eaten up with j immortal, invisible, and eternal. Then 
zeal and that according to knowledge, i would you know indeed, that he has more 
knowing that we are nothing and that ! good money than all the people in the Uni- 
Christ is the only Saviour. Understand j ted States. Then would you apply to 
me, brethren, the proclamation or testifi- j him for funds in all your straits, and 1 pray 
cation does not cieate the fact, only gives God that he would preserve his children 
information of the? existing fact. This is faultless before him in love, peace, & union. 
the record God gave of his Son, that God Mark, 1 fay before him, not the learned 
has given to us eternal life, and this life is and polite of this world. For if I yet 
in his Son. Again, Adam was a figure of j please men, then am I not the servant of 
him that was to come, (in representation Christ And ye shall be hated of all na- 
only, for the first was of the eaith and ear- tions for my sake; but he that endureth 
thy;) hut the second was the Lord from unto the end, shall be saved. And this is 
heaven, and a quickening spirit — and God the victory that overcometh the world, 
mu.-t be worshipped in spirit and in truth, jeven our faith. There was nothing given 
Henceforth know we no man after the | man, to do, to make him better or preserve 
flesh. Therefore, being born again, not of ! his present standing in the garden. The 
corruptible seed but incorruptible, we. can j low was of prohibition on the part, of man, 
approach the living God acceptably, and j the act of doing became the sin. The 
are exhorted to do so boldly, and find gra"e spirit or principle of work that sits men to 
to help in every time of need. We now doing that which God has forbidden, or 
carry a suitable offering in the human na- j has net commanded, is from the serpent & 
ture of Jesus, and an altar which sanctifies j not from God, and manifests a wicked op- 
it in the God-nature of Christ. For this position to God, more particularly when 
above sacrifice is bound to the horns of this j the object is to exalt themselves in wisdom 

altar with the cord oi' God's love, which, 
he has to his people in his Son, and all the 
devils cannot break it, and all the mission- 
aries on earth can make it. no stronger. 
This band lifts heaven's charter, secures in- 
violably the rights of the heirs, and holds in 
its immutable circumscription the whole 
family both in heaven and on earth; and 

of power. 

Brethren and sisters, I must come to a 
close, as it is the first time I ever wrote for 
print; but if the Lord lets me live, this is 
not the last time, if you will suffer some 
corner in your Primitive for publicity. 
Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and 
God, even oui' Father, which hath loved us 



and hath giv«n us everlasting consolation 
and good hope through grace, comfort 
your hearts and establish you in every 
good word and work. 2 Thes. chap. ii. 
verses 16, 17. Pray for ns, that we may 
be delivered from unreasonable and wick- 
ed men; for all men have not faith. If 
they had evangelical faith, which is the 
witness of the Holy Ghost, called the faith 
of God's electj working by love, purifying 
the heart, they would not depart from the 
traditions received of the apostles. But 
ihey have Simon's faith, and can venture 
to exchange the precious blood of Jesus for 
the corruptible silver and gold which is 
bad fruit, and by their fruit you shall 
know them. And you are commanded to 
withdraw from them. 2 Thes. iii. and 6. 

Brother Rofer, I know you though 1 
never saw you. Brother Lawrence, and 
all that love our Lord Jesus Christ, let me 
congratulate you wilh these words: Come 
and t see the place where the Lord lay — the 
Lord is risen indeed. Farewell. 



Some of the children of God, surrounded 
with, and interspersed amongst, the advo- 
cates of Missionary and other societies, are 
denied the happiness of concfrsing with 
those of the same judgment. Others, 
while grieved with beholding corruptions 
of the doctrine and practice of the gospel, 
are not able to speak fur themselves. '1 his 
is designed, under God, for their relief. 
We shall aim not so much to please the fan- 
cy, as to inform the judgment— more to af- 
ford matter for solid and lasting comfort, 
than to give a momentary glow to the feel- 
ings. We consider that the cause of truth 
and of Christian solace, is our cause. Deep- 
ly impressed with the belief that the blessing 
even of truth itself is of the Head of the 
Church, we cast ourselves moon Him, and 
send our little paper abroad, praying the 
Lord tocarry with it some joy'to those who 
are in tribulation, and a little rest to those 
who are troubled. 


Fur the information of new subscribers, and as 
a guide to correspondents, we re-inseitthe origi- 
nal Proposals for publishing 


This publication is principally intended 
to defend the Old School United Baptists 
from the many aspersions cast upon them 
by deluded persons professing their own 
faith, because they cannot conscientiously 
engage in the various money-making 
schemes of the day, ostensibly intended to 
promote Christianity, but evidently tending 
lo destroy the great and fundamental princi- 
ples upon which it is based, by making a 
gain of godliness. We wish to have it. dis- 
tinctly understood, that we are not inimical 
to Masonry, Temperance, the diairibulion 
of the Bible, or the spread of the Gospel — 
but we do condemn the mingling of profes- 
sors and non-professors of religion in socie- 
ties, and the making a "craft" of religious 
matters by professors, in every shape and 
brm whatsoever. 

Believingthat Theological Schools, Bible, 
Missionary", Tract, and Sunday School U- 
nion Societies, are the same in principle — 
unscriplural — savor more of "lucre" than 
of "good-will towards men," we are oppo- 
sed lo them. 



Corn Neck, Edgecombe county, N. C. > 
Dec. 27,' 1839. J 

Well, George, the Publisher — and Edi- 
tors of the Primitive Baptist — I have not 
troubled you, or any of you much this 
year with my writings; and one of mv rea- 
sons has been, that I have occupied so 
much of the former volumes of the Primi- 
tive, that I began to be afraid that my Old 
School brethren would think, George gave 
me the preference; or, that I had hindered 
publications that might have been more 
useful to our cause. So I threw down my 
pen, and have not written what I should 
otherwise have done. 

But you will lake the following, writ- 
ten by candle light, when although wearied 
wilh the busy scenes of the d-iy, yet what 
my experience from trial and age teaches 
me, I wish to leave on record fur the bene- 
fit of the present and future generations — or 
else I think I shall live in vain. For ail 
men should live for the benefit of others, 
and he who alone lives for his own good 
need not live at all; for he who lives to 
eat is a drone and curse lo the nation., for 
men should eat to live, and not live to 

It has been long supposed, that happiness 
is the pursuit of every man; one in this 
way, another in that — (but the truth is, the 
most are entirely mistaken.) And so eve- 
ry man is running afier her, as a man runs 
. after his shadow; she is always befoie, like 



his shadow, and he can never move and 
say, you are mine. For if a man moves in 
health, weal I h, honor or high station, she 
still moves too, to his sad disappointment 
and regret. So that man in honor, wealth, 
poverty, sickness, or health, has always his 
bitters and his sweets, his clowns and his 
ups, his adversities and prosperities, his 
joys and his sorrows, his laughters and his 
cries. So then, human life is but a series 
pf changes, but all for the best, from the 
emperor to the beggar. For this truth by 
experience of sixty years I am taught, that 
ail or the greatest part of the happiness 
jhat man enjoys, is in anticipation alone; 
that as soon as the thing anticipated is en- 
josed, it loses the happiness conceived to 
be in it. Then she flies from man's grasp 
and fixes on some other flower before him, 
equally delusive and withering; when 
plucked by the anticipator, it withers in his 
hands and breeds a sorrow of mind. 

So then I set it down from sixty years 
experience, that the grea'est part of the 
happiness and misery of mankind, flows 
alone from anticipation of good or evil, 
neither of which may or may not happen, 
and so is suffered or enjoyed by man, for 
the purpose of keeping him along through 
life by a wise God, to keep the human 
mind in aetian like a watch until death. 
Otherwise, all good or all burl, it would 
run down into insanity or nought ac- 

Once when I was a boy I was a great 
lover of sugar, as most children are; and 
if mothers want to cure them of the love 
pf sugar, give them a plenty. I bought 
me a pound — now, said I, I will have my 
fill for once. But alas! to my astonish- 
ment, before I had eat half the pound, it 
h <d no more taste to me than sand. Thus 
all my anticipated happiness in eating su- 
gar, turned to sand in fifteen minutes. So 
it has been ever since, all my anticipated 
sugars have turned to sand of every des- 
cription — but virtue. This has never in 
one instance bred worms of guilt to sting 
the conscience, never moulds, never in all 
my life turned to sand. It is alone the tree 
of virtue that bears wholesome fruit, whose 
fruit never withers, but yieldeth its fruit to 
the actor in adversity or prosperity. And 
she bringeth him a dish of delicious, and 
fresh, and sweet fruits, by her handmaid 
memory, in all the straits of human life of 
a distressed and hungry mind. Past vir- 
tue can satisfy the hungry soul with her 
past and present dainties at all times, of 

which tumultuous passions cannot rob it. 
Hut what is better still, virtue keeps back 
her best dish, or desert, for the future; re- 
serving at all times a part of her never- 
ending stores, a part of her dish, for the 
virtuous actor against the day of want here- 
after. And while the wells of gratified 
passions, wealth, honor, high station, pov- 
erty, and the cup of anticipated pleasure 
and "happiness dry up, and aie mingled 
with gal I and yinegnr, the virtuous man's 
well ever flows with water sweet and clear, 
in adversity and prosperity, to satisfy his 
own mind and give him peace even in a 
dungpon, or iron chains — as Paul and Si- 
las for religion, and a Lafayette for liberty, 
and a hundred otlvrs 1 could mention. 

So then, every man that wants to be hap- 
py mu.>t be virtuous, or it cannot be at 
home or abroad, on hill or dale, or on the 
mountain lops — in the night or day, in 
evening or morning, sleep or awake. For 
conscience, God's minister, is watchman 
over the soul, and he will cry aloud in 
spite of all men can do to bribe him, or put 
their handkerchief in his mouth to keep 
him from hauling out. Yet he will speak 
and they cannot h e 'p it — at home or at 
church he is there at his post, telling the 
truth within if not without. So then, eve- 
ry man that, wants to be happy must be 
virtuous; for a man of gratified passions, or 
take it in what sense you wiil, say a man 
of pleasure, a man of honor, a man of 
wealth, a man of lust in she ramifications 
that that word will bear, it alters not the 
case — that man is a man of misery, find 
him on the throne or on the dunghill. 

Then my advice is, bridle the tongue 
with a double curb bit; deny and chain 
down the passions with chains of self-denial 
from day to day while life lasts; flee lust 
of all sorts, and do good to all men even to 
enemies, for you know n t from the chan- 
ges of human life how soon you may want 
them to be your best friends". Therefore, 
fall out with none, how great, soever the 
provocation may be, where God's truihs 
and the welfare of your own soul is not at 
stake, with civil and religious liberty — hut 
in defence of these and st< rn virtue, show 
yourself in the field sword in hand. 



Georgia, Trovp county, > 
Dec. nth, 1839. \ 
Bhethhen Editors: As I have to write 



to regulate my next years' subscription, 
I have concluded to give you some inform- 
ation how we are getting along in this 

Since the first of September last, I have 
baen to four Associations, three of the 
Primitive and one of the other soit; and 
all the business was transacted in harmony 
and every motion was put by the Modera- 
tor, requesting all in favor to the motion 
to say yea, and those opposed to say no; 
and I never heard a no, in the three Asso- 
ciations. Therefore I can say truly, that 
brotherly love seemed to abound amongst 
the brethren. And the preaching was ani- 
mating to my soul, and I really thought 
it to be such food that sheep and lambs 
might both feci on it. Hut to my view 
it was entirely different at the other Asso- 
ciation; but I do not want to say much 
about them, for I wish every person to 
have the liberty to worship t heir God in 
the way [hat they think is right. But I 
wish all that worship together to be of the 
same faith. 

1 add no more at this time but will say, 
brethren, pray, for me, for 1 am an old 
man, and have been called a Baptist thir- 
ty-seven years and I am as fearful that 1 am 
no: a Christian, a^ I was when I fust join- 
ed the Baptists, Yours in love, &c. 


Conecuh county, Alabama, ) 
9th December, 1S139, S 

Deat! brethren Editors: I write 
you a few lines to let you know how the 
B, jpt'e-ts > e getting along here. 

In the fall of 1S3S, 1 went to three Asso- 
ciations, the Bethlehem, Alabama, and the 
constitution ofihe Ebenezer. r was hun- 
ting for brethren that I could fellowship. 
At Bethlehem, which was held at the Clai- 
borne church, I could eonverse with a num- 
ber of mv old hrethren, that were dissatisfied 
wi'.h the new schemes of the clay. Then 1 
went to the Alabama, where the division 
took place between the Old Baptists and 
the missionaries, which you have already 
heard. There I found some of the Old 
School Baptists, that cheered my heart; I 
could speak with them face to face, which 
gave me great satisfaction. 

Now from the best information 1 can 
get, the South-western corner of Alabama 
has been as well guarded to keep the Old 
Baptists down, as any other part of the 
State. Sometime in May last, three preach- 
ers sent word to me to make an appoint- 

ment for them to preach, which I did. 
The men lived near one hundred miles 
from me. Two failed coming — two breth- 
ren Jeters. Brother Haywood Todd 
came, and on bis way called on brother 
James Miller; they came and preached 
two days, and on the third day constituted 
a church in my house, of Ihe Old Primi- 
tive order. The next day. about twenty- 
miles off, constituted another — the first 
breach made in the Bethlehem Associa- 
tion There has only one preacher in 
Bethlehem, come out openly and actively 
opposed to missions — Elder Elias Brown 
is the man. 

Brother James Miller come on to my 
house on the 26th of October, to his 
appointments at the Pilgrim's Rest;whjch 
is the name of the church that was consti- 
tuted there. Then spent the following 
week in connection with brother Brown 
in travelling amongst several churches and 
preaching, till they goi below Claiborne 
near the Alabama river where they consti- 
tuted a church. Then in connection with 
other brethren, held a council to constitute 
an Association within fifteen miles of where 
1 live, to meet on the Friday before the first 
Sunday of this instant; which they did. 
On Friday, constituted five churches; and 
on Saturday, one more came and was 
received. This Association is called An- 
tioch, which is near the centre ol Bcthle^ 

Now, brethren, these are things where- 
fore we are glad. I hope it is the Lord's 
doing;. I feel much relieved, as from un- 
der a ^reat burden, and 1 believe my brelb- 
ten do feel so too. 


Kentucky, Livingston county,} 
December 10/A, 1339. 5 

Dear brethren Editors: A lone- 
some and a. singular life causes me to take 
my pen in hand again to trouble you with 
some of my thoughts. 

I would be willing fogive you a full his- 
tory of the Little River Association, but it 
would make a volume; and as 1 am no 
scholar, and am old, and my nerves are 
much affected, 1 shall Jet it suffice and say, 
that I do not know but one Old School 
Baptist preacher in the bounds of \be Asso- 
ciation, and he has stopped preaching on 
account of a breast complaint and other 
crosses. And lay members I am not sure 
that I am acquainted wilh a dozen that are 
not tainted with the missionary schemes of 



the day. So I feel that I am as old Elisha 
gays: Lord, they have killed thy prophet*, 
anil digged down thine altars, and I am 
left alone, and they seek my life, and 1 feel 
myself on thai rock that my Saviour says 
the gates of hell shall not prevail against. 
And knowing that my Father is stronger 
than all, and that none of them are able to 
pull me out of his hands. 



of Jesus Christ. Hence they will not com- 
mit adultery with the fair daughters of 

Brethren, I told you thai I would Jry to 
point out the sons of^God; but I am no 
preacher, and may miss it. But I shall 
draw the bow at a venture and say, Zachar- 
iah, Simeon, Ezekiel, Noah, and all the 
apostles, and all the ancient Primitives, hav- 
ing the grace of God shed abroad in their 
hearts, would not mingle with those strange 
wives. Hence the Primitives of the pres- 
ent day, who have taken the word of God 
for the man of their council, will not take 
up nor follow alter these craftinesses, tho' 
ihey are in I he corner of every street, sav- 
ing: I have peace offerings with me. I 
have decked my bed with carved works; 
and with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon, &c. 
But the man of God will not be enticed by 
her; no. sir, for they love Jesus he'ter lhaa 
aii the institutions of men. Hence they 
will not have fellowship with them. 

Brethren, there is a so;t of people here 
that take up with every offer of the harlot 
and say, they believe that God Almighiy 
foreknew all things; butforthem to believe 
in the covenant of redemption they will 

Georgia, Wilkinson county,} 
December 15, 1339. S 
brethren Edr-ors: Through 
the goodness of an all-wise creator, I am 
blessed with another opportunity ofcommu- 
nicating a few of my thoughts to my breth- 
ren, through the medium of. the Primitive 
Baptist; and shall lay before you a passage 
of scripture found in the 6th chapter of 
Genesis, 1st and 2nd verges, which read as 
fallows: And it came to pass when men 
begin to multiply on the face of the earth 
an I daughters were born unto them, that 
the sons of God saw the daughter s of men, 
that ihey werefib'and ihey tookthem wives 
of all which they chose. 

Now, brethren, 1 shall try to point out 
the sonsof God, and then the daughters of J not, neither will they preach it; for it is a 
men. We find in an early period of time, dangerous doctrine, and ought no! to be 
when there were but few souls on earth, I preached. And 1 believe ihey have made 
say two, that mm rebelled against God and j 'he commandments of God of none effect 
ah that was good, and married sin. Hence j by their traditions, and are heaping to 
we find in the present day. men revolting ; themselves leachtrs. And the beast was 
against God, and will not follow; the corn-] la ^en, and with him the false prophet, 
mands of Jesus Christ, nor- his ap-stlcs; ' an( ' the deceiver, and all that do wick- 
but havetaken to themselves wives. These , edly, and were cast into a lake of fire, 
are old preachers, that once contended for j Brethren, we are commanded to try 'he 
the faiih; but are now preaching for hire, ' spirits, for there are many, and saying: Lo, 
whose god is their belly, which the h re is Christ,; or, lo, he is in Burmah. 
old prophet called greedy, which can . B ,J t believe them not. 
never get enough — and have married the' Bret h rerj, j learn that God is a spirit, and 
daughters of men, which are Miss Auxi- j 1 believe he comprehends the whole uni- 
liarv, and Miss Temperance, dressed up in ' verse, one and at the same tim<>; but those 
all the Egyptian finery by their mother institute men are like unto theBabvloninns, 
Mystery Babylon; or, in other words, Mj s- c 'oing a great work and cannot come down, 
tery Convention. And she sells her daugh- &c. But I believe the Lord will bring 
ters-fora certain sum of money. Any 'hem down, for they are daubing wjth 
man can be a member, and then for a still untempered mortar, and these are Ihey 
larger sum of money, to marry him for that are holding up the truth in uarigh- 
life. I leousness. 

Brethren, I pray God Almighty to 1 have not got through, but must come to 
ever keep his foreknown, foreseen, and a close, by subscribing myself yours in the 
forechosen children from following after faith ofthe gospel. JESSE MOOHE. 

the cunning craftiness of men; and not per- ■ 

mit his elect people to marry those strange j North Carolina, Buncombe county, 
wives. For they are a predestinated peo- 1 November 1 6th, 1639. 

pie, sanctified, justified, and glorified; hav-J Dear and well beloved Bhethren 
ing their hearts washed clean by the blood, in God our Saviour: I once again take 



my pen in hand lo let you know that I am 
in the land of the living, and have not for- 
go ten my poor de?p : s d brethren. Yes, 
they are despised by the devil and all his 
lying hypocritical subjects. Did you ask 
me why they are despised? If you did, I 
answer, because they tell and preach and 
write the truth and the whole truth; and 
that you know is mwh against the infernal 
craft of the present day. 

Dear brethren, I am in one of my plain 
ways at present, and if you think I am too 
rough, examine the scripture where our 
Saviour told the self-righteous that, the de- 
vil was their father and the works of their 
father they would do. Again, he says to 
them: generation of vipers, how can 
you escape the damnation of hell. The 
aoostle Peter calls them cursed children, 
and the apostle Jude says: They are speak- 
ing great, swelling words of vanity, having 
men's persons in admiration for advantage. 
I do not 'ell you those things because you 
do not know them, but because you do 
know them. For it is line upon line and 
precept upon precept, here a little and 
there a little, all through the scriptures 
concei ning those things. 

Dear brethren, those go-betweeners and 
middle men and sneaks, will say any thing, 
write any thing, preach any thing that can 
be invented by themselves and I tie devil to 
carry their cursed plans, and deceive the 
ignorant and bring them into bondage. 
Dear brethren, I do sincerely 7 believe 
those to be the days that, men are to be 
drunk, but not on wine, nor strong drink, 
but drunk on strong delusion. 1 also be- 
lieve this to be the time, that the sun has 
gone down at noon, and the earth is dark- 
ened in the clear day. The word of God 
beino - the sun, it is laid down in the noon- 
day of the gospel, and all manner of hypo- 
critical worship carried on, instead of the 
true worship of God. And 1 would candidly 
as soon go and join in with a set of high- 
way robbers to merit my salvation, as to 
join in with the new schemes of the present 

Dear brethren, though miles and moun- 
tains divide our bodies, in heart and soul I 
do know we are one, if renewed by the 
spirit and power of God. And no man 
can be an heir of salvation except he has 
the spirit of Christ, and the spirit of Christ 
is love. And by this all men shall know 
we are his disciples, if we have love one to 
another. And God Almighty does know 

their sentiments so plain as many of them 
are doing, to wit: Lawrence, Roivr, 
Whatley, Bennett, Haggard, Paxton, Lee, 
Haynie, with a host of others, all soldiers 
listed under king Emanuel, fighting the bat- 
tles of their Lord with drawn swords. JViay 
God bless you, ye sons of thunder, ye 
valiant of the Lord. Glory to God in the 
highest, that ever I lived to hear the names 
of such men to sound in America. 

Had it not been for such men as tho«e 
as instruments in the hand of God, our 
world would certainly have been drown- 
ed in priestcraft long ago. But thanks be 
to his blessed name, he never has nor never 
will leave himself without a witness to 
prove to the world that, that is right, and 
that, that is wrong. Well the wise man 
might say: As cold water to a thirsty 
soul, so is good news from a far country, 
'['hanks be to God, 1 hear good news from 
my distant brethren twice a month. 
Though it comes from afar, it is nigh to 
my soul. 

Dear brethren, I consider us fellow wor- 
kers together in the same building; and as 
it takes many workmen to build, they have 
different w»rk to do. Some with the club 
some with the club axe, and some 
with the broad axe. while others v\ith 
planes, &c. But it appears, that it fell to 
my lot to handle the club axe, for the pur- 
pose of cutting down and scoring in, and 
to knock off the knots as J go. Some 
timber you know is very near straight and 
has few knots, and when 1 find such 
straight timber, I do not have to work so 
hard. But 1 have got into a thicket of ve- 
ry crooked, knotty, scrubby black jacks; 
some are so crooked I have to score it in- 
to the heart", and sometimes through the 
heart; and then it will not do, 1 have to 
leave it to be burnt with (ire and brim- 
stone. For 1 do believe the master build- 
er has given me the measuring reed to 
measure by, and such timber as will not do 
for building you know is only fuel for the 

Dear brethren, we have a great many 
workmen in the world at this time; and too 
many of them love to work v>iih the 
smoothing plane, and too many love to 
work with the painting brush. We have 
too many that love to do polishing wotk. 
Those smooth workmen ought to remem- 
ber, that rough stone that name out of the 
mountain, that broke the feet and legs of 
the great image. It is my candid opinion, 

that I do love my dear brethren that write 1 that if we had more of those rough work- 



fofcri and fewer of the polishing sort, times 
would be much better and our building go 
on faster. 

And if there are any of the old Primi- 
tive brethren that sanction my rough work, 
I want them to let me know it by some 
way or olher, in some of their communica- 
tions if they please; as the people in this 
country say, there is not such another in 
the whole world as myself. And some of 
the people say, that the Primitive papers 
are all my own work, and I h;ive counter- 
feited olher men's names thereto. Dear 
brethren, such talk only please me to think 
there are so many of us that speak the same 
thing, all contending for the faith once de- 
livered to the saints. Those Ashdodsand 
Ishmaelites who wish to fellowship both 
God and devil in one church at the same 
lime, they do not nor cannot speak our 

And as my sheet is almost full, I mast 
come to a close by saying to the Ashdods 
and Ishmaelitesj harlots and publicans shall 
enter the kingdom of God before you. If 
you want to know why, I will tell you. It 
is because you go about to establish your 
own righteousness, and will not submit to 
the righteousness of God in Christ. So no 
more at present, but ever your?, my dear 
brethren, as a fellow worker in the vine- 
yard of the Lord. 



Georgia, Decatur county, 
20th Sept. 1S39. 

Dear Brethren: I continue to inform 
you of my misfortunes, hoping thereby to 
instruct you if not to comfort you. I must 
give you a small sketch of my life, in order 
to tell my tale. 1 need say nothing as 
touching my education. Every learned 
person will know when they see my scrib- 
ble, that 1 make no pretension to scholar- 
ship; but what 1 am, I trust I am by the 
grace of God. I was raised as hard and at 
as bad a chance, if not worse than any free 
born in modern times; being born of Euro- 
pean p. rents & they dying and leaving me 
a rf infant in the Revolution, without means, 
money, or guardian — according to the old 
proverb, a long shoot and a bad chance — 
but God's goodness is all. 

I grew to manhood, and soon married a 
wife. We have had fourteen children, and 
raised eleven. We had no means but oiir 
o*,vn labor, and several orphans ftil on our 

hands. I lived always on the frontiers. 
Myself and wife both became Baptists 
when young. At about thirty-three years 
of age I became a preacher, I am now fifty- 
eight, and for the last twenty-five years I 
think I have been two thirds of that time 
from home, travelling still on the outlines 
of new settlements, planting churches and 
Associations, enjoying religion in the uniori 
and fellowship of the brethren. A Bap- 
tist was a Baptist wherever I found them, 
then fellowship was no where disputed, all 
feelings were good and added strength to 
my mind, and urged me onward to endure 
the toils and troubles of the delightful em- 
ployment of preaching the gospel to saint 
and sinner. I never had received ten dol- 
lars to aid me, I looked for none; but to 
do my master's will was my meat and my 
drink. And in my progress I lit on a set- 
tlement in Early county, where I preached 
to men and women that had grown up on 
the frontiers without ever hearing preach- 
ing, and some Baptists, some destitute' 
churches. I tasked myself to the utter- 
most to supply their wants, having to go' 
from sixty to seventy-five miles, through 1 
a wilderness where there were but five 
settlers, having to cany provision for my- 
self and horse, camp in the woods, and 
when I would get to the place of preaching- 
I assure you I cut a poor figure for a prea- 
cher. But nevertheless, I believed the 
promise; the Lord was with me, the hearts' 
of God's children were made glad, and 
some were brought to witness salva- 

And at length 1 was successful in plant- 
ing a church in the heart of that county, 
close to the county site, in ihe little village 
called Blakeley — the church is called Ma- 
cedonia. The church immediately seem-' 
ed to take a beautiful start to travel — all 
things bid fair for happy progress; But 
there were several destitute churches in 
the vicinity, and this 1 think was in 1836 
and '37; and a Mr. Ave'ringham, I think 
in February, 1837, advertised a meeting to 
take place in Randolph county, for the pur- 
pose of concerting means to supply the des- 
titute churches in Bethel Association, 
callingon the churches to send up iheirdele- 
gates and means to effect the design. 

About this time there began to be much 
strife up the country about missionary 
matters. I insisted on Macedonia not to 
mingle in the strife, stating that to keep to 
themselves would be the surest way to 
keep peace. But I had at that time a bad' 



rhance to attend them; though they had 
tinanimoslv requested me to accept of the 
pastoral charge-, and 1 agreed to render 
them all the services in my power. But 

pragrcss; hut being released, I went up 
and withstood them to the face — finding 
that they had perverted the faith, teaching 
for doctrines the commandments of men; 

they had a young man amongst them, who having men's 1 persons in admiration, all 
though' himself too smart not to be meddl-j for filthy lucre's sake. And these filthy 
ing; and he and others went to the meet- ! robbers becoming so strong handed, gain- 
ing, made the arrangement of giving the ; ing such ascendancy over the people, by 
information of Macedonia, and instead of ; holding conferences by day and bv nighty 
paving any attention to the destitute \ receiving members and baptising, thereby 
churches, they sent on appointments to Ma- gained a majority in their favor. 

When I told them of their faults they 


Now, brethren, the truth is, they cared 

hissed trie out df the pastoral authority of 

no< for the destitute; but their intentions ! the church, and it is manifest from ihe ges 

turds and conduct of some, that they would 
have hissed me out of the world, if they 
dare. But I was bold to contend for the 
faith once delivered to the saints. I thank 
God, I stood not alone; God's precious 

Now, brethren, I will tell you how these i children who had received the engrafted 

were made manifest in what followed after- 
wards. From the days of John the B.ip- 
trst until nOw, the kingdom of heaven suf- 
fered) violence", and the violent taketh it 
byfotce. Matthew, llth and 12th verses. 

missionary robbers have tieated Macedo- 
nia church; by sending them appointments, 
time after lime, placing them in the mid- 
dle of the appointments of the church in 

word of truth stood with me, and yet stand 
on the Lord's side. 

And oh, brethi en, rejoice with me; we 
shall stand on that blessed foundation: 

which 1 have attended, least I should I when all these vile robbers will flee, as 

meet with them there. 

They first persuaded some of the breth- 
ren, that it was necessary to make a 
change of J heir minister, as he was too 
old, too infirm, and had too far to come to 
attend then ; slating that a younger man 
would serve them better. Secondly, hold- 
ing protracted meetings from time to time 
from four to nine days; holding conferen 

when no man pursueth. My soul is thank- 
ful for the gift and grace of God in my 
young brother Harrell, a licensed preacher 
and member of. Smyrna ehurch, who stood 
with me, notwithstanding these undermi- 
ning dignitary pirates combined together, 
getting him into a back room to them- 
selves did endeavor to seduce him and turn 
him from the purity of his faith, which 

fees, bringing their President, Vice Presi- j they could not. And I believe there are 
dent & Secretary, into t he church; holding; many others, that are brought to see where 
their missionary meeting*, receivingsums of |they have been led to, while many are 
money, subscriptions with names of old ' placed upon their guard against those vio- 
and young to their missionary society— : lent church robbers. 

thus, like the Jews, turning the temple of' i must now come to n close. Your pa- 
God into a den of thieves, and his people, per has taken a great circulation in this 
into merchandize — for they gotand receiv- ] section of country, and particularly about 
ed in the course of a few meetings, a thou- Blakely, where those missionaries reeon- 

sand or fifteen hundred dollars. And as 
the wolf comelh not. but for to kill and to 
steal, so these wolf missionaries came not 
for the good of the flock, but for the fleece. 
And truly, they fleeced some of the poor 
Macedonians deeply, which I hope will be 
to them a lesson long to be remember- 

And as robbers often use violence on a 
man's life, in order to get l) is money, or 
before they can get it, thus their plan was 
matured no doubt to destroy me as the 
shepherd, to fleece the flock. Thus I ex- 
perienced the fulfilment of the text, I hav- 
ing been confined at home by the sickness 
and death of my wife, in the time of their 




Shelby county, Illinois, 
AW \Olh, 1S39. 
Brethren Editors: Thro' the agency 
of Elder G. Heche, I have obtained a co- 
py of the Primitive Baptist, and being weif 
pleased with the matter contained in the 
communications of the same, and being de- 
sirous for the circulation of it in this our 
western country, I have thought fit to ad- 
dress a few lines to you, to let you know 
something of the situation of the Baptists 
\n the bounds of the Ocaw Association of 



Regular Baptists. They having taken a 
stand against the man-made institutions 
and money-sent preachers of the present 
day, have generally peace among them- 
selves; although, brethren, we have to 
complain of leanness, and barrenness, and 
lukewarm ness. 

Dear brethren,- the Ocaw Association is 
A weak band, and has only three ordained 
ministers in her body; but they are real 
corn-crackers, and ihey have a great many 
hard names heaped upon them by the Ish- 
maelitish gang, such as, hard he ids, iron 
jackeis, self-will, &c. &c. But they stick 
close to that golden rule laid down by the 
Saviour, that the Mabel builder cannot 
Come near them with their nonsense; and 
that is what makes them so mad. 

Having spun this my scrawl out to an 
unnecessary length* I wiil come to a close. 
May the great head of the church guide 
and direct you in all your godly underta- 
kings, and enable you to contend for the 
faith which was once delivered to the 

I wish brother Joshua Lawrence, or bro- 
ther Thos. Paxton, or some others of your 
able conespondents, to gve their views of 
the 8th chapter of the gospel by John. 1 
add no more, but subscribe myself yours, 
in hope of etern d life. 


glad to see such a paper. You will plense 
ilirert six copies to me at Duncansville, 
Thomas county, Georgia. 
Yours, truly. 



Marshall county , Mississippi, } 
Nov. 23d, 1839. $ 

Dear brethren Editors: I have been 
taking your valuable paper the Primitive 
Baptist for one year, and 1 am well pleased 
to hear that there are yet some contending 
for the faith once delivered to the saints 
And I do believe it advocates the doctrines 
of the gospel, and therefore I send for six 
copies> commencing at number one, hfih 

Dear brethren, pray for us; and may the 
Lord God of all grace be with you all. 

1 have no more. 



Thomas county, Georgia, ) 
Dec. 21*/, 1839. \ 
Dear Brethren: I had the pleasure of 
perusing your paper called the Primitive 
Baptist, and must confers that I am trulv 


North Carolina. — .1 . Biggs, Sen. Vfciltiamstoni 
II. M. G. Moore, German-ton. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washington, .Tamos Sou- 
therland, Warrenton, Alfred Partin. Raleigh. 
Charles Mason, Roxboro'. James Wilder, An- 
da-soil's Store. Benj. Byntfm, Speight's Bridge. IL 
\vera, Averasboro' . Parham Pucftet, Richlajrds. 
\, II. Keneday, Chalk Leo'e\. B. Tema-te, Wati* co. 
Ceo. w. MoNeely, Leaksville. Win. H. Vanrij 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, SmithJieXd. 
James HjSasser, Waynesboro''. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B, Bennett, Heathville. William 
J. Roberts, Buffalo Hill, Alfred Ellis, 
Cor's Canaday, Carterettsville, William Welch, 
AbbotTs Creek, . J. Lamb, Camden C. Hi Al- 
len Taylor. Jun. Rocky Mount. A. B. Bains, Ira 
Stanhope. C.T. Sawyer, Powell's Pont. Isaac 
Tillery, Laplnnd. Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth 
City. Harris Wilkerson, "SNest Point. Isaac Al- 
derman, Moore's Creek, 

South Carolina. — Win. Hardy, Saluda H'll, 
lames Hcmbree, Sen'. Anderson C. H. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. B. Lawrence-, Effingham, 
James Burns, Sen. Bold Spring. William Sj 
Shaw, Bock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackville An- 
drew Westmoreland, Caghville. James J. Kirk- 
land, Four Mile. Branch) Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers, CrnwsviWe, Marshal Mc- 
Graw , .Brown's. 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, Mclhmough. John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthoay HoJloway, Lagrange. P, \I. Oal=>" 
houn, Knoxrille. R. lleese, Eaton/on. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Veel, James Hollingsworth and Stephen 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John vv. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bowdoin, A lairsville. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatole. Clark Jackson and Ahednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. J oKn Gayden, Franklin. P. 
II. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, Tiwn- 
aston. William Bowden, Union Valley. Ezra 
YlcCrary, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce, Cairo; 
G. W. Holifield, Vernon. B. Pace, Clean Town. 
Lewis Peacock, GaisviWe. Vaohal D. Whatley, 
Barnesville. Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice,' 
Mount. Morne. Elias 0. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt. 
J. G. Wintringham, Ualloca. William Mrf 
Amos, GreenviWe. Randolph Arnold, Lati- 
mer's S/cwe. Thomas .L Bazemore, CUnton. 
Jo-iiah Stovall, AquiWa. G. P.Cannon, CuWoden- 
oi\\e. Jason Grier, Indian Springs. William 
McKlvy, Altapulgus. Furna Ivey, Millea 'geville. 
William Garrett, Cotton River, Jesse Moore, 
George Hemdon and John Hardie, Ir- 
pihton. Leonard Pratt, Whitcsvilk. Thomas 
A. Sullivan, Decatur. Thomas J. Johnson, New- 
nan. Israel Hendon, Shi\o. Robert B. Mann? 
Chesnut Grove-, Win. Tippit, Cedar Branch. A.G. 
Simmons, Hickory Grove, John Lawhon, Chenuba. 



John Herington, Welhorn's Wills. John MeCorquo- 
dale, Parckltala. James P. Ellis, PineviWe, Shu- 
mate J. Sloan, Chesnut Hill. French Haggard, 
Athens. Henry Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
fort Valley. Josiah.Gresham, White Ha//. Daniel 
O'Neel, Fowlton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro'', 
.T.B.Morgan 8i,.B,P<Ronse, Friendship, Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fair Flay, John Wayne, (Iain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hootensville. R. S. Hamrick, Carroll/on. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses H.Den- 
itian, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, B\ake\y, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
TarversviWe, John Stroud, KendaW. James Scar- 
borough, Statesborough, Young T. Standifer, 
Mulberry Grove. 

Alabama. — L.B. Moseley, Cahawba. A. Kea- 
ton," McConico. John Blackstone, La Fayette. W. 
w. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wm. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'l 
Gafford, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G. Walker, Milton . Henry Williams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron. John F. Lo- 
vett, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Church Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton,, David Johnston, Leigfi.ton. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market, Sherrod w. 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves'' Ferry, 
"William T:\We.y, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her. 
ring, Clayton. G. w. Jeter, Pint Lala, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pliasant Grove. William Crutcher, 
Huutsville. W illiarn H. Cook, Pickensvilte. 
Seaborn Hamrick, Plantersvitle, William Mel- 
t'pn. Bluff Port. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Wm. 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus Daniel, Jameston, An- 
derson w, Bullard, Tusgegee. Frederick Hines- 
Gasfoni Z.Johns, Tiura, _ Eli McDonald, Paws- 
ville. A. Mitchell, Carter's Hill. William Pow- 
ell, YoungsviWe. James Hay, Wacooca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville, David Tread well 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount, Hickory. Sam'l T.Owen,' 
Argus, Joseph H.JIolioway, H tz]c Green. Luke 
R. Simmons, Troy. Jesse Lee, Farmersville, 
William S. Armstrong, Louisville. Mark Porter, 
Demopolis, Henry Adams, Mount Willing. Joel 
Hi Charnbless. Lhwsvillc. Elliot Thomas, Wil- 
liams/on. F. Pickett, China Grove, James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M Pearson, D.idevi.We. W. 
J. Sorelle, Wetumpka. John D, Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R, Berrv, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cox, Souheehatchie, James Searcy, Irwinton. 
JJ/azael Liulofield./ock'oitv'lle. John w. Pellum, 
Frav\d'n., Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Brciflf'rd, Mechanic's Groue, A. D. Cooper, W,\- 
hamston. John Ilarrell, Missouri. James K. 
Jacks, Eliton, Robert R. Thompson, Centreville. 

1 :: rNESSEE. — A. V. Farmer, Blair's Ferry, Mi- 
chael Burkhalter, Chceksvilic, Tho's K. Cling-an, 
Smith's X Roads. W'.E.Pope, Philadelphia. Aaron 
Compton, Somervil/e. Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, Meesvitte. James 
Manlden, Van Buren. A .Burroughs, Wesley. Wm. 
Groom,' Jackson. Daniel Briggs, Decatur. Clerp- 
mons Sanders, Mount Vernon. Daniel Webb, 
Lexington. . Sion Bass, Three Forks, John w. 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough, Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Seviervi/le. 
Ira E. Douthit, Lynchburg, C.T. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Mcdon. Levi Kirkland and George 

Turner, Wave-ly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Sncdysville. Pleasant E. Witt, Cheek's 
X Bonds. .], Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
sou, Long Savannah. Jas, H. Holloway, Hazel 
Green, William McBee, Old Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin w. Harget, Cherryville, 

Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Springs. 
Thos. Holland, Dai/ville. WorshamMann Columbus^ 
Henry Peity, Zion. Wm. Huddlestoh, Thomastoni 
Nathan Tims, Kosciusko. Jonathan D.Cain, Wa- 
tcrford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 
Hedges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris,' 
WliccMng. Simpson Parks, Lockhart's Store,' 
Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, Wm. Ringfo, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas Hi Dixon, Macon. John Erwirr, 
Lin\ihor n e, Herhert D. Bnckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and Micajah 
Crenshaw, Marlon. Wm. Warren, Dekalb, 

Florida. — James Alderman, China Grove, Da- 
vid Callaway, Cherry Lake. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, Marburyville. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro'. Uriah Stevens, 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri. — Joel Fergu son,. Tackson 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View, 
James Marshall, Salem. Thomas w. Martin, 
East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Snltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac w, Denman, Gallatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Philanthropy. John 
B. Moses, Germanton, 

.Kentucky. — Jona. H. Parker, Sa\em. Levi B« 
' Hunt, Manchester. 

Virginia. — Kemuel C. Gilbert, SydnorsviVie. 
Rudolph Rorer, Bcrger's Store. John Clark, Pre- 
' dericksburg. Wra w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifux C, H, George w. Sanford, 
Harrisonburg. Jesse Laukford, Bowers's, E\U 
jah Hansbrough, SomerviWe. Wilson Davenport,' 
TVhife House, 

Dis. Columbia. — Gilbert Beebe, Alexandria. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, South Hi\\. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. Nathan Everitt, 
Clii Hi coals. Town. 

Wisconsin Ter. — M. w. Darnall, B\ue River. 


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No. 2. 



Muburna, Henry county, 
Dec. 25, 1839. 


Whereas, we ihe Baptist churches of Christ 
at Mount Zion, County Line Fellowship, 
New Providence ami Antioch, in Alaba- 
ma, and Salem, in Georgia, Early county, 
met on the 29ih of November, for the pur- 
pose of going into a constitution of Associ- 
ation — and, as we suppose, were hinclred 
by a piece in the 10th No. of the Primi- 
tive, written by J. F. Watson — we wish to 
Answer on our part. 

Two of these churches belonged to Chat- 
tahoochee Association when she died; but 
they have come out with all the Primitive 
churches, and we are not accountable for 
her conduct; where he, Watson, says the}', 
means we few churches. He has sat be- 
hind the curtain, and thinks he has wrote 
in the light, and has sent out his faith to 
prove he is a Primitive Baptist; but he, 
Watson, Ananias-like, kept back part of. 
the price. The query he, Watson, talked 
about was this: Were the sins of the elect 
imputed to Christ, or he charged for their 
surety? He, Watson, says, he does not 
believe the sins of the elect were imputed 
to Christ; which he dare not deny, for 
here lies the pamphlet on the table by me 
now, which says on page 10: But I do not 
believe he, (Christ) bore the penalty due 
to the sins of the elect, receiving them by 

And as for J. Kimbrcll, I heard him 
preach the same doctrine at Mount Zion 

church; and they are the leading charac- 
ters of the Pea River Association, for which 
reason if we had been constituted we could 
not correspond with them, nor none she 
corresponds with. So I will leave them 
here foi 1 the inspection of the world, to 
judge whether they will do for Primitive 
Baptists or not. 

Mr. Watson was at our last convention, 
& there, Gideonite-like, offered a covenant 
with us: Print your minutes,"and we will 
be ready to correspond wiih you. And 
here he was asked to renounce your faith, 
and we will publish you in order in the 
Primitive; but he would not answer yea 
nor nay. So we have no fellowship with 
none that believe such doctrine as tins, no 
more than we have with institutionist men. 

We are a little handful of Primitives' 
here, surrounded by a host of enemies, and 
jthey abroad appear in our clothes, and they 
' do not belong to ihem. And now we send 
Christian salutation to all the Primitive 
brethren, whether in Association or in 
convention, or individuals. Our next at- 
tempt for a constitution will be at County 
Line Fellowship, Henry county, Ala., on 
j Friday before the lh ; rd Sabbath, in Ju- 
jly, 1840. 

Dear brethren, do not be alarmed at ref 

I ports, but come and see our order; see' 

j whether we are in order for a constitution 

or not, for our enemies will do us all the 

harm they can — for there are missionaries 

on onesideand Kimbrellites on the other. 

Brethren in the ministry, come and visit 
us at our next meeting, for we are a poor 
and afflicted people. There was nothing 
done at our last meeting of importance, on- 
ly the brethren came over from Georgia 
and preached the gospel so pure, that it 
was received like the Egyptian corn, an4 
it weave! eaten. 



We beg that you should print this as 
soon a9 possible, for we consider that 
we were slandered by Mr. Watson with- 
out cause. Done and signed in behalf of 
the bod}'. 


A. I). COOPER, Clerk. 

N. B. In the piece in ihe 21st No. on 
page 329, written by me, the name Har- 
rell is a mistake. Jarrell is the man in- 
tended. Mr. Harrell is a man in fair 
standing at home, and is preaching the gos- 
pel in its purity, if I am a judge thereof, 
without money or reward in this life. 



Wilson county, Tennessee, ~) 
December 22nd, 1839. 5 

Brethren Editors: This being an un- 
favorable day for meeting, it came into my 
mind to drop you a few lines to let you 
know how we are a doing in this country. 

In 1839, a little handful of us after the 
Old School order, believed it to be our du- 
ty to obev our Lord's command to 
Consequently in view of a gazing multi- 
tude, on Monday after the first Sunday in 
Oct. 1839, six churches of the Salem Asso- 
ciation separated and distinguished them- 
selves from the Baptist State Convention 
and all its advocates, and them that fellow- 
ship them thai do advocate it. 

After we had done this, in viewing the 
circumstances that surrounded us, it was a 
gloomy appearance indeed, for nearly all 
the ministry were ensnared in the principle 
which Paul warns Timothy against; that 
is, the love of money. They told the 
churches that they had nothing to do with 
the Convention. But you know that is the 
song; every where. This looks like what 
Peter says, when speaking of those that 
beguile unstable souls, &c. They told the 
churches that we would die and come to 
nothing. But I hope we trusted in the 
living God who says, that oil things shall 
work together for good to them that love 
God, &c. 

On Friday and Saturday before the third 
Lord's day in November, 1837, these 
churches formed themselves into another 
Association called Round Lick; after 
which we began to go abroad to see if we 
could find any of this way. And to our 
e*ftiiou we found the words of the Lord 

true, for said he to the disquieted old pro- 
phet, he had reserved to himself seven 
thousand, &c. And we found six Associa- 
tions that had not bowed the knee to the 
modern Baal, money. We in our di qui- 
eted condition offered our correspondence, 
and they, like brethren of the same faith,' 
cordially received us. The names of 'he 
Associations, (to wu;) Slope's River, Red 
River, Cumberland, Drake's Creek, Cany 
Fork and Elk River. 

The first session after our formation, one 
church of Salem Association on petition 
was received into union. Salem associa- 
tion keeps this church on the table of their 
Minutes, yet what it is done for 1 know 
not, wiihout it is to keep the number. 
The name of this church is Bethel. At 
our third session, three other chunhes of 
Salem on petition joined us, and one church 
from Cany Fork by letter, which makes 
eleven churches. 

This is a small sketch of our situation. 
We cannot boast of great thin.;s, as these 
new folks do; neither .would we, save in> 
the cross of our Saviour. 

Bre'hren, we are in peace, and may the 
God of peace be with you. And you, 
brethren, come and see us and preach to us 
the gospel of the blessed God. Farewell. 

Yours in the afflictions of Christ. 



Sumpter county. Alabama, 
29th Nbv'r, 1839. 
Brethren Editors: Enclosed is an 
extract of a letter, wrote by a worthy gen- 
tleman of this region to a high, inconsist- 
ent, full-blooded, renowned missionary 
preacher. Please to give it a place in your 
instructive, useful, tell-tale vehicle, and 
oblige A. KEATGN. 

Sumter county, Alabama, } 
November 26th, 1S39. £ 
Mr. Barnes: Let me say to you, that 
my Bible tells me lhat salvation is of 
God, and God is able to manifest himself 
or his love into the hearts of his creatures, 
without the aid of man; and my feelings 
are much hurt to think, that man is extend- 
ing the arm of flesh to help God do his 
work. This effort system will one day or 
other, without the interposition of God, 
deluge our country in blood. It is noth- 
ing but an aristocratic principle, only call- 
ed by another name. God says to peti- 



fioners: Bring forth fruit meet for repent- 
ance— and not for those missionaries to 
help a creature out with his experience — 
For it is by grace ye are saved, and that 
not of yourselves, for it is Ihe gift, of God 
-—not men. 1 do not believe in this effort 
system, for I have read my Bible close al- 
most day and night, and can find nothing 
to justify man in helping God do his 
work; but man's duty is to pray God 
with a fervent and sincere heart, to give 
them a heart to understand the mysteries 
of the scriptures. 

Mr. Barnes, reflect and look back on 
Rome, when Constant ine a religious man 
ruled the Government of Rome, and estab- 
lished religion by law; and where is Rome 
now, with all its law religion? — no more. 
You missionaries put me in mind of the 
Irishman, when he stole the turkey and 
was caught at it, and was told he would 
suffer for that in the day of judgment — 
he observed, give me that long trust and I 
will take two of them. And you are rea- 
dy to say, my Lord delays his coming. 
He will come in a day and an hour that 
you look not for him. And my Bible 
says, if ye love not one another the love of 
the Father is not in you. Not like you 
missionaries love, to shake off your hand 
to get your money. And my book still 
says, that God is one and he has one 
church, one faith, and one baptism — and 
Christ is the door, the way, the truth, the 
life; and he that entereth in by and through 
Christ, shall go in and out and find pas- 
ture. But he that climheth up any other 
way, is a thief and a robber. And you 
shall eat bread by the sweat of your face, 
and not preach for bread, meat, clothing, 
carriages, double reins, bridles, horses, 
money and servants; and to establish it by 
law. Such is not democrat ical, nor re- 
publican, nor liberal, nOr honest, if my 
views are right. The hiieling flceth, be- 
cause he is a hireling, and the wolf Catch- 
eth them and scattereth the sheep — ye eat 
the fat, and clothe yourself with the wool. 
Look at the references of the 10th chapter 
of John, and please to give me your views 
on the above, and you will very much 
oblige your fellow man, &c. 

B. B. MAY. 


Extract from the Minutes of the second 
session of the Ebenezer Baptist Asso- 
ciation, held at Union meeting house, 

Autauga county, Alabama, from the 

6th to the llih November, inclusive, 

A. D. 1S39. 

2nd. Resolved, That this body recom- 
mend t) her constituent Churches the 
propriety of holding the administration of 
baptism by the missionaries (as they 
are called) as invalid, from and after the 
present session of this Association, inas- 
much as they have declared us to be in dis- 
3d. Resolved, That this Association recom- 
mend to her constituent Churches, the pro- 
priety of inserting the words, primitive 
order, in all letters of dismission granted 
by them. 

From the Plan and Constitution. 

V. We will not hold in union any 
Church that holds any member in her, 
that is a member of any of the following 
Institutions: to wit, Theological Schools, 
State . Convention, Missionary Society, 
Bible Society, Tract Society, Sunday 
School Union, Temperance Society, nor 
any other society that is tributary to the 
Missionary plan as it new exists in the 
United States; neither will we knowing- 
ly correspond with, nor receive corres- 
pondence from any Association that holds 
Churches in fellowship, holding members 
in her which are members of any of the 
above named societies. 

The Ebenezer Baptist Association- to 
the Churches she represents, sendeih 
Christian salutation — Greeting : 
Dearly beloved Brethren and Sis- 
ters in Christ: — By the permission of 
God, we have again assembled in an asso- 
ciate capacity, in love, peace, and union; 
At the time our Association was organized 
I there was so much love, union, and har- 
mony, manifested in general amongst iiSj 
it caused our hearts to rejoice in the Lorda 
And for the purpose of perpetuating that 
peace, harmony, and joy amongst the bre- 
thren and sisters in general, we call your 
attention to a subject found in the Epistle 
of Paul to the Hebrew Church, 13th chap- 
ter and 1st Verse — 'Let brotherly love, 

We are aware, brethren, that it is a sub- 
ject that has been often written on, never- 
theless that does not diminish its impor- 
tance — for love is a divine attribute of God 
and is an inexhaustible fountain and a 
theme sufficient for angels and men, 
throughout time and eternity, tc dwell on. 



And in order that our minds may be the 
better prepared to understand the apostle 
in his admonition to the Hebrew Church, 
(which admonition is applicable' to the 
Church of Christ throughout all succeeding 
generations,) we should consider, firsi, 
what brotherly love is; 2dly, How we 
should act towards God and each other, 
that brotherly lore may continue; and 3dly, 
The effects of brotherly love. 

First. Love is, firsi, a natural passion, 
inclining us to delight in an object, such as 
delighting in all the duties we morally 
owe to God and all his creation, the tem- 
poral blessings of God,- such as food, rai- 
ment, and all the necessaries of life, &c; 
and is unlawful, such as delighting in sin, 
or any thing that has the appearance of evil, 
&e. Second, in addition to a natural pas- 
sion oflove, there is a supernatural love, 
that the world by nature knows nothing of, 
which we must have before we are proper- 
ly prepared to enjoy brotherly love as we 
should — which supernatural love is the 
gift of God, and is implanted in the soul 
through the operation of the Holy Spirit — 
teaching us that we are vile sinners against 
God, both by nature and practice. — And 
that we are dead in trespasses and in sins. 
For Paul says, Ephesians, 2 ch. 1 v. 'and 
you hath he quickened, who were dead in 
trespasses and in sins.' Read the same 
chapter to the I Ith verse. And we find the 
Scriptures abounding throughout with 
proof, that all Adam's posterity became 
sinners through his transgression; conse- 
quently, are spiritually dead, until quick- 
ened and made alive by the Holy Spirit. 
The same Spirit also leaches us that God 
is holy, just, true and righteous in all his 
ways and word, or law, and without being 
clothed with his righteousness, we cannot 
be fit subjects for his kingdom; then brings 
us to the God-Man Christ Jesus, who is 
the Mediator between God and man; who 
tells us in John ch. 3, v. 16, 'For God so 
loved the world, thai he gave his only be- 
gotten Son, that whosoever believeth in 
him should not perish but have everlasting 
life; Mark, ch. 2, v. 17, 'I came not to 
call the righteous, but sinners to repen- 
tance;' Matt. ch. 5, v. 6, 'Blessed are 
they: that hunger and thirst after righte- 
ousness, for they shall be filled,' &c; then 
gives us faith to believe in him and to lay 
hold of his promises, and to believe that 
Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and that 
he came into this world, and took on him- 
self a human body, and in that body suf- 

ered, bled and died, and rose again front' 
the dead and ascended to glory, and now 
sitteth on the right hand of God, and there 
ever liveth and maketh intercession for us 
— and thus made a complete atonement 
for our sins and transgressions, and cloihed 
usin his righteousness. This is the Com- 
forter he promised his disciples when he 
went away. John, ch. 15, v. S, 'and 
when he is come, he will reprove the 
world of sin, of righteousness and judg- 
ment. And Paul tells us Corinthians, ch. 
12, v. 3, <And thai no man can say that 
Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghosts 
Romans, ch. 8, vs 16 and 17, 'The Spirit 
itself beareth witness with our spirit that 
we are the children of God. — And if chil- 
dren, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint 
heirs with Christ. This is the love of 
God implanted in the heart and soul, 
which makes us rejoice in God our Saviour 
and to say truly, we love God because he 
first loved us. And if we love God, we 
also love all that is born of God, and love, 
and have a sympathetic feeling for alt 
God's creation. Thus we are prepared 
for brotherly love. 

Secondly. How we should act towards 
God and each other, that brotherly love 
may continue. Now, dear brethren and 
sisters, if love towards God and faith in 
our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is thus 
implanted in us by the Holy Spirit, we 
surely are prepared for good works; and 
prepared, as ibe apostle James tells us, to- 
show our faith by our works. And as- 
there is so much talk and preaching about 
good works in this enlightened day, so cal- 
1 led towards God and to one another, we 
J will try, through the assistance of the Holy 
Spirit, to point out, first, our duties or 
good works towards God, and secondly, 
to one another, though they are so very 
closely connected with each other, we feel 
at some loss to know how to separate them. 
Then, first, our good works toward God 
may be comprehended in a few items: such 
as love toward God and faith in our Lord 
and Saviour Jesus Christ; going home (or 
to the Church) Jand telling our friends 
wdiat great things the Lord hath done for 
us; then being baptized by immersion, to 
show our death to sin, resurrection to new- 
ness of life; coming with his saints to the 
Lord's Table, to commemorate the death 
and sufferings of a crucified Saviour, and 
by our humility in washing one another's 
feel; and in all things by an orderly walk 
and a godly conversation. The Seiiptures- 



abomid with proof of these being special 
duties which we owe to our God; and our 
Saviour seems to comprehend a sufficiency 
in his answer to some that inquired of 
him, 'What shall we do to work the 
works of God ?' John, ch. 6, v. 29, 
<This is the work of God, that ye helievein 
him whom he hath sent.' And if we be- 
lieve in him, surely we ought to keep his 
commandments, for we do not conceive 
any of them grievous or burthensome; hut 
to the contrary, they are cheering to our 
consciences, when we look back and re- 
flect thai God has implanted. a principle of 
love in us, and enabled us thus to perform 
our duties; for we are compelled to ac- 
knowledge it is all of him at last, and that 
all the glory belongs to him the three one 
God; and the good, ours. 

For our further reflection and medita- 
tion, we will make a few quotations from 
the sciptures: John, ch. 14, v. 15, 'If ye 
love me, keep my commandments;' v. 23. 
'If a man love me, he will keep my words;' 
ch. 15, v. 10, 'If ye keep my command- 
ments, ye shall] abide in my love; 'v. 12, 
'This is my commandment, thai ye love one 
another as I h.ive loved you; '1st Epistle of 
John, ch. 2, vs. 3, 4, & 5. 'And hereby 
we do know that we know him, if we 
keep his commandments. Me that saith I 
know him, and kecpeth not his command- 
ments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him: 
but whoso keepeth his word in him, verily 
is the love of God perfected, hereby know 
that, we are in him;' v. 20, 'If any man 
say I love God, and hateth his brother, 
he is a liar; for he that loveth not his 
brother whom he hath seen, how can he 
love God whom he hath not seen;' v. 21, 
'And this commandment we have from 
him, that he who loveth God, loveth his 
brother also;' ch. 5, v. 2, 'By tlvs we 
know that we love the children of God, 
when we love God and keep his command- 
ments.' Romans, ch. 13, v. 8, 'Owe no man 
any thing, but to love one another; for he 
that loveth another hath fulfilled the law;' 
to which theanswer of Jrsus to the lawyer; 
Matthew, ch. 22, vs. 37 to 40, confirms 
the whole matter — 'Thou sbalt love the 
Lord thy God with all thy heart, and 
with all thy soul, and wiih all thy mind. 
'This is the first and great commandment; 
and the second r» like unto it, 'thou shall 
love thy neighbor as thyself.' On these 
two commandments hang all the Lw and 
the prophets. 

'i'hes. are duties we owe to one another 

and to all men, which are stimulants to 
brotherly love, and are also in accordance 
with the Scriptures, from which we will 
make a few quotations, commencing 
with thewords of our ever blessed Saviour, 
Matthew, ch. 7, v. 12, 'Therefore, all 
things whatsoever ye would that men 
should do to you, do ye even so to them, for 
this is the law and the prophets;' Romans, 
ch. 13, v. 10, 'Love worketh no ill to his 
neighbor, therefore love, is the fulfilling of 
the law;' James, ch. 2, v. 10, 'For who- 
soever shall keep the whole law, and yet 
offend in one point, he is guilty of all.' 
From the above quotations, in connexion 
with many others we might mention, we 
should, in all our dealing with each other 
in mind, place ourselves in the same situa- 
tion with the other, and decide for both 
parlies, then act accordingly, and never 
ask a favor of another that we would not 
be willing to do for him, if the situations 
were changed. We should study the inter- 
ests of our brethren & sisters, as well as our 
own. We should visit them in their afflic- 
tion, both of body and mind; administer to 
their necessities; pray with and for each 
other; reprove, rebuke, and admonish each 
other for all inconsistencies in morality and 
religion; acknowledge our wrongs to each 
other; forgive each other's trespasses a- 
gainst us, and endeavor in all things to act 
with a spirit of meekness, humility, and 
love to each other; deal honest!}' and up- 
rightly with all men; be subject to autho- 
rities and to the laws of our country; be 
careful to entertain strangers; covet not 
the riches of this world, nor the forms 
and fashions thereof, but be content with a 
competency to live comfortably on; be in- 
dustrious in all our lawful occupations; be 
not involved in lawsuits; be temperate in 
all things; be not idlers nor tattlers, busy 
bodies in other men's matters, but curb our 
passions, bridle 3Ur tongues, & in all things 
make straight paths for our feet, &c . &c. 

Some may be ready to say, we cannot 
comply with all these duties; we admit it 
is hard for the flesh to submit to them. 
But Paid telis Christians, Romans, ch. 8, 
v. 9, 'But ye are not in the flesh, but in 
the Spirit, if so be the Spirit of God dwell 
in you. Now if any man has not the 
Spirit of Christ, he is none of his;' v. 13, 
<for if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: 
but if ye through the spirit do mortify 
the deeds of the body, ye shall live;' Gala- 
tians, ch. 5, V. 24, ' And they that are 
Christ's have crucified the flesh with the 



affections and lusts.' Dear brethren and 
sisters, our natures are so prone to sin 
although we are renewed in the spirit of 
our minds, we cannot refrain from evil 
thoughts, desires, and propensities; but we 
can and ought to refrain from putting them 
in practice. And should we love and 
cherish them, we have great reason to 
doubt our being born again or born of the 
Spirit; !o which Paul agrees, Romans, ch. 
7, vs. 20 to 25, Now if I do that I would 
not, it is no more 1 that do it, but sin that 
dwelleth in me. I find. then a law, that 
when I would do good, evil is present 
with me. For I delight in the law of God af- 
ter the inward man : but I see another law in 
my members, warring against the law of my 
mind, and bringing me into captivity to the 
law of sin which is in my members.' Which 
makes him cry out, vs. 24 and 25, '0 
wretched man that I am! who shall deliver 
from the body of this death? I thank God, 
through Christ Jesus our Lord. So then 
with the mind I myself serve the law of 
God, but with the flesh the law of sin.' We 
find no account of Paul putting any of his 
evil tho'ts,&c. into practice, after that great 
lightshone around him abovethe brightness 
of the sun, when he was on his way to Da- 
mascus, Acts, ch. 9, v. 3, elaa how could 
he have u3ed the language he did? 1st Cor- 
inthians, ch. 9, v. 27, 'But I keep under 
my body and bring it unto subjection; lest 
that by any means when I have preached 
toothers, I myself should be cast-away.' 
2d Timothy, ch. 4, v. 7, 'I have fought a 
good flight, I have finished my course, I 
have kept the faith,' &c: and wc are often 
exhorted in the scriptures, to watch and 
pray, lest we enter into temptation. And 
blessed be God, we have the promise often 
repealed in the scriptures, of the Holy 
Spirit to aid and assist us through our 
pilgrimage in this tabernacle of .clay, 
and finally land us on those immmorlal 
shores of bliss, where brotherly love 
will continue Uninterrupted (through our 
imperfections) throughout a never-ending 

Thirdly. The effects of brotherly love 
All thus acting — ihe minister that is called 
of God to preach his <<ospel would de- 
light in preaching and administering to 
iS'.ich people; he could then leave father 
and mother, wife and children, house and 
land cheerfully to attend al! his appoint 
ments. Me would not be afraid of offend- 
ing them by declaring the whole council 
of Gud as revealed to them, uor of acting 

foithfully in conference at all times, nor 
of reproving, rebuking and admonishing 
any of the members for their improprie- 
ties, lie would visit the sick, endeavor 
to relieve the distressed either in body or 
in mind as far as he was able, and in all 
things delight in his office according to the 
Word of God. The Deacons would also 
delight in their office: would attend their 
meetings and cheei fully officiate at the 
Lord's table, the tables of their .Ministers, 
the tables of the poor of the Church; 
inquire into their necessities both as to 
food and raiment; exhoit and admonish 
the brethren and sisters in general to their 
duties; would be kind and affectionate to 
all men; reject all Ministers that bring un- 
sound or unscriptual doctrine. The bre- 
thren and sisters in general would rejoice 
to meet each other, at the places appointed 
for the worship of God; would visit each 
other and tell over their feelings to each 
other; would be kind and affectionate to all 
men; would deal honestly and uprightly 
with a!!. Would count their. Ministers 
and Deacons worthy of double honor for 
the gift of God bestowed on them; would 
delight in their prosperity both in spiritu- 
al and temporal t'ttrngs; would aid and assist 
thuir brethren and sisters in general from 
suffering for want of the necessaries of life; 
and more especially the ministering breth- 
ren and their families, who are forced 
through necessity to leave all to declare the 
glad tidings of the Gospel to a dying world 
of men and women, as true and faithful 
ministers of God. Husbands would love 
their wives and families; wives would 
love and reverence their husbands; child- 
ren would love and obey their parents; and 
servants their masters. The world at 
large and ungodly professors would be 
Constrained to say of a truth, there is a real- 
ity in religion; would attend preaching, 
and beholding the order and discipline of 
the Chuich, would he constrained to say, 
though the Church is awfu', yet it is de- 
lightful; ail of which would redound to the 
glory of God, his cause and Kingdom on 
earth, and the peace and consolation of 
his Z\on. We might go on writing on 
the love of God brotherly love, and 
the effects thereof, until we had filed 
Volumes, and then not have told half the tale. 
Finally, dear brethren and sisters, we 
pray God to give you aiding grace to duly 
consider these things, and examine your- 
selves whether your hearts are prepared 
by grace thus to art; and if nyt, look uate 



Him who has all power in heaven and 
earth to prepare you. And may the 
peace of God rest and remaTn with you 
and us all, and brotherly love continue. 
A. Hatlet, Clerk. 

ers that which they have not sought 
after. To pretend to preach gospel re- 
quirements, without annexing gospel bless- 
ings, would be no other than preach- 
ing law with a gospel name. To prom- 
ise the enemies of God gospel bless- 
ings, on condition of fulfilling gospel re- 
quirements; is no better than that other 
gospel the preachers of which are under 
the curse. See Gal. 1 — 3, &c. Turn it 
which way they will, they cannot avoid 
preaching a yea, and nay, or a conditional 
gospel. For it seems predicated on the 
notion, that God requires nothing of men 
but. what they can perform, and their ina- 
bility is a criminal one. This seems plau- 
sible when superficially viewed, or seen as 
men naturally see divine things; but when 
examined in the glass of God's word, its 
plausibility disappears. Adam the first 
was of the earth earthy: and when placed 
in the garden received a law which embra- 

South-hill, Bradford county, Pa, 
Jan. 1st, 1840. 
Brethren Editors: I send a few lines 
by which to addrees my brethren that are 
scattered abroad in this dark and cloudy 
day. I read of their troubles, and hope that 
I can sympathise with them; I also might 
wri'eof wars, and rumors of wars, and earth- 
quakes, and troub!es,and conflicts, and deep 
waters, and the waves going over my head, 
and of dangers, of perils, and of tumults, 
enough to make an old soldier tremble, un- 
less he could say with Paul, "none of these 
things move me." 

But if my memory serves me right, 
some one wished the bre'hren would write \ ced a prohibition, and the spirit of it was to 
more on doctrinal points. And I have j prove his love to his God. Now Adam 
thought that a little more clear light of the could love God with all his heart, till ano- 
doetrine of Christ, exhibited in the spirit ther object, earthly like himself produced 
of the £<><p -1; might entertain the minds, a conception which brought forth the trans- 
and comfort the troubled hearts of the poor gression of the law. And divine lestimo- 
of the flock; as much as such a sameness of ny assures us that "by one man sin enter- 
diffi uliies. Though I am by no means ed into the world, and death by sin; and 
averse to hearing the trial of God's dear so death hath passed upon all men, for that 
children. But men are fond of variety, all have sinned." This testimony was as 
And since it comforts the lambs, and star- true when Paul wrote to the Romans, as it 
ties the wolves, to have the line of character is now; yea, it was as true 4000 years be- 
between the flock of Christ, and the flocks fore that as it was tlv n. The unnumber- 
of his companions clearly held to view, ed millions descending from Adam's loins, 
Though 1 may not succeed according to the have (except in a few solitary cases) all 
wishes of many, whose heads may be been born, not only under the sentence of 
much clearer than mine; nor answer death; but, under its power; though born 
my own mind as I could wish. Yet alive as animals, yet dead as to an y princi- 
I will try in my blundering way to touch pie of divine or spiritual life. "Behold, I 
one, point where many have stumbled. i was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my 

There are some even among them that mother conceive me." All Adam's pos- 
nre opposed to the popular system of beg- terity stood in him while he stood, and fell 
ging money to eke out the blood of Christ with him when he fell. Hence as they 
in saving sou!<; that believe, and contend were in his loins; by him, as by the one 
thu the gospel has claims on all mankind man many (they all) were made sinners-. 
wherever it is preached, or that "it does The law nevertheless holds its claims, 
command all men to repent and believe and men notwithstanding they are dead in 
the gospel." "The point in dispute is, trespisses, and sins, and as such have not 
whether the gospel requires repentance and j the least particle of power, or ability to 
belief of the truth, where he (Christ) docs ! keep or obey the holy mandate, are as 
not actually bestow it — or in* other words, ! firmly bound, and as righteously required 
of those who finally perish in their sins." j to love God with all the heart, as was Ad- 
And lh"y plead that to rightly; divide the am in the garden; and are as guilty for not 
word, it must be so preached. If so, then ■ loving him, as they would be if they had 
(o rightly divide the word, Christ must be all the powers they boast. To admit the 
preached as requiring of some that which i contrary, is to charge God with giving an 
he. has not given, and as giving to oth- ' unreasonable law, and of cruelty in causing 



his Son Jesus Christ to flic under it; and ) could give life, i 
Jesus of consummate folly in honoring an the same creativ 
unjust law in his life, and of Hypocrisy in 
acknowledging the righteousness of its 
claim; by submitting himself to bear its 
curse — to die under it, to redeem Ids peo- 
ple from under an unjust, demand. Yea, 
all this and much more, lies in the bosom 
of the notion, that God requires nothing of 
men, but what they are able to perform. 

And their notions of gospel seem equal- 
ly confused. Indeed, it. seems to rne that 
they only calculate the gospel as a kind of 
stay of execution, requiring payment: on- 
ly giving men an opportunity, or chance to 
help themselves, now that they are come 
to act for themselves, seeing they had no 
more to do with Adam's transgression, 
than minors have with the foolish bargains 
their parents sometimes make. And thus 
they preach up law claims, for gospel du- 
ties. Set the dead to work to get life by 
their legal performances; and with a legal 
dress would insist that they must attend the 
marriage of the king's son, and love Christ 
with their old hateful hearts; and feast on 
gospel food, without any but an ungodly 
carnal appetite. But these things only 
show, that they are "desiring to be teach- 
ers of the law, understanding neither what 
the}' say, nor whereof they affirm. The 
law is holy, just, and righteous in all its 
claims; and cannot be abated. Jesus said, 
♦•Think not that I am come to desiroy the 
law, or tl>e prophets; 1 am not come to 
destroy, but to fulfil. For verily, I say 
unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one 
jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from 
the law, till all be fulfilled." Jesus was 
born under the law, lived under the law — 
fulfilled every precept in the law — died 

And if men had life by 
e goodness, standing in 
the same relation to God that Adam the 
first stood in when he was created, and 
could live • so as to enjoy life by the law, 
without a forfeiture as long as time lasts; 
they never could get to heaven by all the 
legal duties they could perform; nor would 
they ever be any nearer than when they 
were first created. The truth is, the law 
was never designed to fit for or convey 
men to heaven; it never did, or could, or 
was it ever designed to make men holy. 
For what the law could not do, in that it 
was weak through the flesh, God sending- 
his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, 
and (or sir,, condemned. sin in the flesh; 
that the righteousness of the law might be 
fulfilled in us, (not by us,) who walk not 
after the flesh, but after the spirit. Such 
as walk after, or in the spirit, are or have 
been quickened by the spirit — born of the 
spirit, made spiritual men, and can, ?,\u\ do 
discern the things of the spirit) which the 
natural man cannot know, for to him they 
are foolishness — they are only discerned 
ly Ihe spirit. And that spirit by which 
such are quickened — -born — walk after, or 
in, and by which they discern the things of 
the spirit, isjhe spirit of the gospkl. And 
that, gospel, instead of requiring legal du- 
ties of the dead, as a condition of their re- 
ceiving life; actually gives iifeto them that 
were dead — spiritual life to such as had no 
such quality in them before; divine life, 
and union with God to such as were, really, 
his enemies, and far from righteousness of 
any kind until it was communicated by the. 
gospel's quickening influence; (unless they 
might have had a bundle of self-righteous- 

ness for the which they were none the bct- 
under the jaw", that lie might redeem his ter. ) The law was an administration of 
people from under the curse of the law. 
tie also arose from the dead, and conse- 
quently from under the law, tint he might 
bring his chosen bride from under the law; 
being by him justified from all tilings from 
which they could not be justified by the 
law of Moses. A3 Jesus was horn under 
the law, and lived under it; he taught men 
to honor it. To the lepers, he said. Go 
show yourselves unlo the priests. To a 
young man, he said, Thou khawest the 
commandments! Thus l\e taught men to 
r gard the law. But he did not tell them 
it was gospel, assume of our latter preach- 
ers do in these days. The law was, and is 
an administration of condemnation — of 
death. It never did give life.— it never 

death to all l.hat were found transgressors 
of it ; the gospel was, and is. the power of 
God unto salvation, to all the chosen seed, 
.And while the law requires perfect obedi- 
ence to all its holy precepts, the gospel fur- 
nishes that obedience in the person of 
Christ, for all the members of his body, 
though they were as destitute, of it in tin-m- 
selve's as the enemies of God areof .spiritu- 
al enjoyment. And when the apostle has 
so beautifully illustrated the difference in 
their ion, and the operation of 
each, with the place the y fill in the econo- 
my of Gad; for men to believe- the doc- 
trine of divine sovereignty— -distinguishing 
grace — unconditional i l'i Qtion— and the per- 
severance of all the saints to eternal g'oiy, 



by grace i!i rough faith in Jesus Christ; and 
theft tell u?, or preach, that the gospel con- 
demns men who only hear it with their na- 
tural ears because they reject its kind of- 
fer?, is 'to me strange indeed. Especially 
when ii so plainly contradicts such a cloud 
of testimony found in the scriptures; and 
the very system which they themselves 
profess to believe. .lust as though the 
transgression of every precept of God's ho- 
ly law was not reason enough for their con- 
demnation; when it is written, He that of- 
fends in one point is guilty of all But 
they rnn-t press the gospel into the service 
jjf cond-emnafion, when its declared object 
is to save the bride of the Lamb, and quali- 
fy her for divine enjoyment at. his right 
hand forever and ever. To look into the 
go-pel, with spiritual eyes, to behold its 
gloiions fullness, divine beauty, and to par- 
take of its rich and unwasting salvation, 
fills I he soul with joy unspeakable and full 
of glory, while the blind see no beauty j 
therein, the deaf hear no melody in its 
poiind, nor do such as are full of selfVrigh- ! 
teou^ness, hunger or thirst for gospel food;! 
and those arc wise in their own eyes, i 
count it foolishness to believe the doctrine 
of the cross. Now to him that worketh, is j 
the reward not reckoned of grace, but of j 
debt. But to him that workeih no', hot j 
heiieveih on him that justifielh the ungod- 
ly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 
Yours with esteem. 


iled us, "and after making our situation 
known as we have, wc must wait and try 
to ask the Lord to put it in the hearts of 
some of his ministers to visit us. 
With due respect and esteem, yours. 




We have delayed the publication of the present 
number a few days, to make the necessary ar- 
rangements on commencing a new volume, We 
shall soon resume our usual regularity. 


Warren county, North Carolina, \ 
Dec" r. 21th, 1839. 5 
Dr. An Brethren; The lime has again 
rolled round, to make "a remittance for the 
fifth volume of your periodical paper. .1 
should have been gratified to have been 
able 'o have increased my subscription, but 
while things remain as they are at present, 
I h ivu no hope of doing so. We are vet' 
destitute of a preacher. Eider Chandler- 
gave u- a visit last November, and preach- 
ed three times— no other preacher has \is- 


South Carolina Fairfield district, > 
Jan. 2nd, 1^40. \ 

Dearly beloved brethren Editors: 
Your much beloved paper is read with in- 
creasing interest in this section by some, 
while it is reproached by others. And no 
wonder, for even Chiist could not please all 
but suffered shame and reproach. And 
the truth, as I think your paper carries, 
has in all ag< s of the world been evil spo- 
ken of. Brethren, these things should not 
discourage us; but they should strengthen 
our faith, for Chri.-t has plainly told us of 
these things in his word, saving: In the 
last days perilous times should come. And 
he trial iv-ill live godly in Christ Je-us, 
shall sufler persecution ; and if ye are with- 
out chastisement, whereof all are parta- 
kers, then are ye bastards arid not sons. 
With my present idea, ill did not think I 
was born an Old School Baptist in the fore- 
knowledge of God, 1 could have no hope 
of salvation. 

It is said, Jeremiah. 1th chap. 5th verse: 
Before 1 funned thee in the belly i knew 
thee, and before thou earnest forth out of 
the womb 1 Sanctified thee; and I ordained 
thee a prophet unto the nations. Again, 
Romans, Sth chap. 2Sth verse; The called 
according to his purpose. 29: For whom 
lie did foiekuow he also did predestinate to 
he conformed to the image of his Son. 
Called, justified, sanctified, and glorified, 

Now, brethren, with these and many 
more scriptures 1 could quote staring me 
in the face, I cannot believe in free will, 
dec agency, or the works of man in all the 
many im-nied schemes of the day, uncon- 
ntcedwitb the spirit and power of God. 
Dear brethren, pray- for us, that we may 
bear tiie cross win patience; as it appears 
to me the Feelings of the Primitives are 
run over rough shod, without regard to 
age, rank, or station, by the missionaries, 
and they are very plenty here. But I 
think the Primitives' are geting their eyes 
opened by your paper'. 'May the Lord 
fill you all with ill wisdom and guide you 



into all truth is my prayer for Christ's 
sake. Amen. 


cros*, with whited locks, and will presently 
come to the grave in a full age like as a 
shock of corn cometh in his season. Hut 
I have a little hope, that I shall one day 
meet time, together with all the dear saints 
of God, on the banks of deliverance, where 
the wicked cease from troubling and where 
the weary pilgrim will be eternally at res'; 
there to sing redeeming grace and dying 
love, through t ho counties'* ages of e'erni- 
ty. And while solaced in the everlasting 
love of Go. I in the Paradisic plains of eter- 
nal felicity, some kindred spirit may safe- 
ly whisper in my eir, saying, there is 
Joshua Lawrence. Grace be unto yon, and 
peaee be multiplied from God the Father, 
and from our Lord Jesus Christ. 



Alabama, Tatlapoosa county, 
D°c. tSih, 133.0 
Dear brethren Editors: I have nct- 
el as an agent for your highly esteem- 
ed, and (I hop 1 , and believe.) vary useful 
piper, for the last twelve months, and have 
not during that time (from the want of an 
education) attempted any eommunic .tfon 
to you -relative to the situation of the A- 
pbstolic Baptists in this section of the 


Georgia, Monroe County, 
New year's day, 1S40. 

"Eighteen hundred and thirty-nine 

Is now for ever past, 
Eighteen hundred and forty 

Will fly away as fast; 
Yet whether life's uncertain scene 

Will hold an equal pace, 
Or whether death will intervene 

And end my mortal race — 

Or, whether sickness, pain or health, 

My firtu re lot may he, 
Or whether poverty or wealth, 

Is all unknown to me; 
One thing I know that needful 'U3 

To watch with careful eye; 
Since every season spent amiss 

Is register'd on high," 

Dear brethren Editors: The a- 
bove shoidd impress every reflecting be- 
ins? on earth with thoughts of solemnity — 
whether prepared or unprepared, we are 
one year nearer our haul cjissdlutipn. One 
year more, nay, one month, one week or 
one day, may end our mortal career. 
When i look back and reflect on the many 

trials, difficulty s. straits and narrows that I 1 country. And now to make my commu- 
have waded thro' in the past year, I am con- j hi cat ion short, 1 vvill state, that the Beu- 
strained to standstill and behold the s.ilva- j |.ih LLp'ist Associ itioii convened with the 
tionofGod. Bless the Lord, my soul, ] church at Fedo.vship, of which I am a 
let all the powers within me bless his holy i member, in this vicinity, on Saturday be- 
name. Look up, my soul; admire, won- 1 fore the fourth Lord's day in October last. 
,der, love and praise the Lord thy deliver-' And we were made to rejoice, that busi- 
er. Let all saints bless his holy name, ness was conducted through the whole As- 
for his sweet and precious promises; that sociation with as much good feeling as I 
as the little hills were round about Jerusa- have ever known. We received four new- 
lem; so he would be round about his peo- ]y constituted churches, and one other who 
p'e, that he would ba as a wall of fire had heretofore stood in opposition to the 
round ab >ut them, and himself the glory . declaration of an unfellowship, has gladly 
in the midst; that salvation would he ap- adopted the resolutions, sued for member- 
point for walls and bulwarks. that men ship, and obtained it. 

would praise the Lord for his goodness,] The Bethel Association, of Coosa county, 
and for his wonderful works to the children Ala. was constituted about fifteen months 
of men. I pas 1 , on what was called the middle ground, 

Dear brethren, I should be much grati-land livei so until her next session, which 
fied to see the writings of Elder Joshua took place last September, at which time 
Lawrence compiled by himself or some every church in that body came out, &adop- 
othcr competent person, and neatly bound, ted the resolutions of an unfellowship to all 
1 believe such a volume would be useful to the institutions of the day. I am glad to 
the church of God. I should like to see pro- state that there are only two small churches 
posals for publishing it b} T subscription. As in this section of country, who yet stand 
1 never expect to see brother Lawrence in in opposition to the apostolic fyi th. 
this vale of tears, let us see his works; he j 1 come to a close, after praying the 
is an old man, a war-worn soldier of the blessings of God on all efforts you have, or 



may make, in diffusing (he truth through 
the world. Yours in Christian love and 



Tennessee, Haywood county,') 
December 1st, 1839. 5 

Brethren Editors: As we have no 
agent in this section of country, I am un- 
dfer the necessity of writing a few lines my- 
self, for the first time. And as I am noth- 
ing more-ihan a deacon in the church, I 
shall hive but very little to say, as there 
are so many more abler pens than mine lo 
fill up our columns. Therefore I shall on- 
ly sav, that I have been taking your pap- rs 
the Piimitive Baptist for ihr e years at the 
expiration of this year, nnd I can assure 
you. that lam very much pleased with the 
doctrine they con'ain. And I cm assure 
you, that I am of en made to rejoice in rea- 
ding so many delightful communications 
from different brethren from all over the 
Umtad Stales, all contending for the faith 
once delivered to the saint*. 

We have but very fe^v of the Old School 
Bipti^ts in this part of God's moral vine 
yard, and they seem lo be in a cold dull 
state at this time; though they are in peace 
among themselves, so fbp as 1 am acquaint 
ed. But there are a good many of the 
Arminian denomination, or squalling Ish 
maeli'es, who say that any person can 
get religion when they please: and when 
they have got it, they can lose it if 
they do not work and keep the fire hot. 
But Christ says: When the unclean spirit 
is gone out of a man, he (the unclean spirit) 
walketh through dry places seeking rest; 
and finding none, he (the unclean spirit) 
saith, I will return unto my house 
whence I came out. And when he Com- 
eth he findeth it swept and garnished, 
&r. &c. 

Now, brethren, I believe th&t if Christ had 
cast out the unclean spirit, that he never 
would have returned; for I have never 
found where Christ cast out any spirit or 
healed any disease, that it ever returned to 
that person any more. So you can catch 
my ideas from what I have said. I should 
be very glad for some of the brethren 
to give their views on the 7th verse of the 
66th chapter of Isaiah. 

May the g«ace of God be with you and 
direct you in all truth, and suable you to 1 

contend for the faith once delivered to the 
saints, is my prayer for Christ's sake. 



Montgomery county. Ohio 
u January 11 h, 1S40. 

Dear brethren in the Lord: I deem 
it as a great privilege to me in h aving the 
pleasure of reading your precious little 
Primitive paper for two years successively; 
and it h >s been, sweet to mv tase, and it 
contains the doctrinal sentiments that my 
soul doth feed upon. I do account it as a 
great substitute for prea>fiin,g. 

I feel thankful to Almighty God. that he 
has b en pleased to impre.-s it on the minds 
of so manv of the old Predesiinai ian Bip- 
tists, to convey something warm-hearted 
thiough the Primitive, that is calculated 
to console, cheer up, strengthen and encou- 
rage poor little drooping saints and sheep of 
the fold, thai have been long cast down and 
hanging their heads like bulrushes in great 
dismay/rsit waswithm\ self. But in reading 
the many precious communications in ihe 
little tell-tale Primitive, it has ofien times 
caused mv soul to rejoice and take cour- 
age, so thit I can heartily say I have 
often received the worth of my dollar in 
reading the communications of many wri- 
ters. God has truly bless d his under 
shepherd wish wisdom and knowledge suf- 
ficient to know what kind of food his flock 
feeds upon, and what their souls thrive on 
best; tlvy also know what they dislike 
and is injurious to their immortal sou's. 

May i lie God of all grace grant us a 
blessing in your undertaking, and be of 
much benefit to your readers generally, 
and thit we may bid God speed to the lit- 
tle Primitive, and that it may continue to 
spread forth the truth and nothing but the 
truth, is my wish and desire ardently for 
Christ's sake. An 1 here 1 will leave you 
all for the present, under God's protecting 
care. No more, but remain with you in 
the fellowship of the saints. 



Jackson, Missouri, Nov. 24/A, 1S39. 
Brethren Editors: 1 have been read- 
ing the little despised paper, called Prim- 
itive Baptist, with much saMsfaclion, be- 
lieving it contains the faith once delivered 
to the saints. But I must confess I have 



been loo remiss in writing to yon. My 
situation in life has been such, that I have 
forb arc writing till now. 

Brethren, the Baptist here are fed by 
shepherds who care not for the flock, but 
for the fleece, with the exception of one; 
and that one, a.nd the church to which he 
belong, is in fellowship with other church- 
es who are enveloped in ond with all the 
institutions formed by man. But they 
say they do not believe in them, but mv 
sentiment is, come away from them, and 
then it is made manifest they do not belong 
to nor fellowship them in their errors. 
There may he many Christians amongst 
and in antichrist ian churches, but the 
word of eternal truth says: COME OUT 

■.rood old Paul, that all God's children before 
they are converted, are by nature children 
of wrath even as others, and differ in noth- 
ing from others till God converts their 

Brethren, God's people cannot be scared 
into heaven; the spirit of truth operating 
on the souls of his people, they discover 
their inbred corruptions, which makes 
them mourn. Then, brethren, the promise 
which is applicable to all such souls, says: 
Blessed are they that mourn, for they shall 
be comforted. This morning takes place 
because the soul is delivered from 
the love of sin, and at once desires to be 
hoi v. 

But, brethren, what shaJl I say to all 

OF HER. MY PEOPLE, &c. And j those who have been frightened by tho-e 
brethren, I believe when a Baptist church effort missionaries? How stands the case 
fouake (be gnod old way-, and run greedi- I with them? I think it stands somehow this 
ly after the error of Balaam, they are no j way: they repair to the place where one 
more a Baptist church, but anlichristian, , of these effort, men made preachers are to 
and as such should not he ffllowshipped, 'preach; the preacher begins in a low tone 
by the Regular or Primitive Baptists. J of voice, and very much sanctified tells the 

The missionary Baptist in this country congregation that God has endowed them 

believe in a general atonement, and differ 
not from all other fta>e willers; and if fhey 

with rational souls, and ail" that he requi- 
res, is to break off from doing evil and do 

did but understand theirown doctrine, they ; right; ^.n^ furthermore, says he. yon know 
would believe in the doctiine of falling: right and wrong, and if you will continue 
from grace. For Surely every thing that ■ in rebellion, you will sink down to hell; 
comes within the po^er of man to obtain^ the gospel is now preached to you, yon can 
man may and can lose. And the poor souls ; believe and receive it now; God is willing 
will he disappointed in thu end, whoevc r to forgive your sins at this time as he will 
believe in sue)) doctrine. ! be to-moriow; & now is the lime to escape 

Brethren, grace never did nor never will from hell and fly to heaven. And down 
teach a poor soul, that salvation of the sonl ' lie comes outofthe pulpit, slaps his hands, 
is at his pleasure to choose or refuse; (no) and tells them they w ill all sink down to 
never taughtthedoctrine of a general atone- hell if they do not embrace the opportoni- 
inenl — never taught the doctrine of fall-jty. "God says, he will not always strive 
jng from grace — never taught the church A to convert your souls; embrace, embrace 
to select pious young men so called, and , this precious opportunity; hell will be your 
have them educated in a theological semi- portion if you refuse, &c. 
nary in order to preach the Gospel. And j And, brethren, great numbers get sea- 
brethren may 1 notadJ,and all the institu- ; red, and close in and quit their swearing 
tions called religious, and all the efforts \ and out-breakiogs, get baptized, and then 
made by man for the conversion of the ! all are safe. The next thing is. now, says 
heathen, and sinners in our own country, are j the preacher, you are converted, give us 
vain and not to be found in the scriptures of j largely of your mciey and we will convert 
truth -t.h« world and the milUnium will usher 

Now I believe God organized his church, , right in. 
or kingdom, at. Jerusalem, on the day of Brethren, such is the preaching wc have 

Pentecost; and the laws of his kingdom 
are so well understood by all those who 
are born again of God, they want no al- 
teration; neither adding to nor diminish- 
ing from, it. suits them exactly. They 
know that salvation is of God, and they 
know that, the promise is sure to all the 
seed. They are fully persuaded, like 

in Missouri, with the exception bt fore sta- 
ted. I now close with subscribing myself 
your unworthy brother and friend. 


Lowndes c&unty, , f lhihmna,~> 
December 1.9///, 1839. 3 
BuETHitrN Eoixous: .There is a great 



{ies.1 said about religion in this our da}-, and~j make them ready to receive him when 
about the institutions of the day, and I she came, and that was what Peter had 
want to give mine opinion abou! .it. I have to do to make them ready to receive the 

Holy Ghost. For we find that Cornelius 

give mine op 
professed to be a Baptist beiter than four- 
teen years, and I always thought and^ still 
think, that I am a Primitive Baptists 1 srn 
opposed to the institutions of the day, be- 
cause I do not believe they are according 
to the blessed word of God. For 1 al- 

and his household and friends were pre- 
pared to receive Peter, and he only had 
to make them ready for the reception of 
the Holy Ghost. And it would be vain 
for us as a people to undertake to help God 

ways have thought that the articles of ! before his time comes, to make them will 
the Baptist faith were true; and if they ing. 

are, 1 do think their efforts are vain, i. e, to Now, my Primitive brethren, their is 
christianize the world. For one article ! one ol the eminent apostle Paul's exhorta- 
says, that God's elect shall be called, re- tious 1 should he glad we could and would 
generated, & sanctified by the Holy Ghost; J attend to, and that is, his second letter to 

and it so, what is the use of so much parade 
about raising money to help God out with 
his work. 

Brethren, the fact is, that is not what 
(hey want with it; for the very root and 
ground Work is speculation; and if they 
had money enough, it is very little they 
would care 'for religion. And not only 
go, but God in time and the order of time 

his Corinthian brethren, G chapter and 17 
verse: Wherefore come out from among 
them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, 
& touch not the unclean thing, and I will re- 
ceive you. Now if the apostle's exhortation 
holds good for us, who is it but these mon- 
ey hunters that we should come out from 
among? Fori am satisfied that they will 
do us as much harm as any body, if they get 

will effect all of his purposes, and that yvifeh- j '-he chance. For you may be sure it is tne 
out much moneys for 1 understand that fleece they are alter, and not the ilock. No- 
his people shall be a willing people in the ; lice another of the same apostle's inslruc- 
day ofhis power. Notice in.-piration, 10th ' lions to his son Timothy, second letter and 
chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, 4 & 5 '3 chapter, beginning at the iir-tveise and 
Verses: And when lie (Cornelius) look- ' continue to S. and you will see theie what 
ed on him (the angel) lie (Cornelius) was the money hunters are up to. First verse: 
afraid and said, what is it, Lord? and he This knowabo, that in the last days peri- 
said unto him, thy prayer and thine aims lous times shall come. Now continue and 
are come up for amemorial before God; and you will see they are traitors, heady, high- 

now send men to Joppa and call for one 
Simon whose surname is Peter. 

Now, brethren, that is the way the 
blessed Lord carries on his work. This 
was the time he was disposed to call the 
Gentiles to a knowledge of himself, and 
that was the right time; for it was the 
Lord's own time. And it is my faith, that 
when the Lord's time comes to call any na 

minded, lovers of pleasures more than lov- 
ers of God; having a form of godliness, 
but denying the power theieof; irorfl such 
turn away, (or come outfiOm amongst;) for 
of this sort are they whirl) creep into- 
houses and lead captive silly women, laden 
with sins, led away with divers lusts. And 
again, notice Paul to Titus, 1 chapter and 
11 verse: whose mouths must be stopped, 

tionto the knowledge of himself, he can who subvert whole houses, teaching things 
and will do it. Now here is one thing i , which they ought, not for filthy lucre's sake, 
wish every body would notice, that it was ' 16 verse: They profess that they kno 
Peter called for and sent to the Gentiles; God, but in works they deny him, &i 
not the learned Paul. That ought to Now, brethren, the apostle says, the 
convince people that God can and will ef- 
fect his purposes without so much ado a- 
bout education. When John the Baptist 
came, you may see Christ — gospel by St. 
Luke, first chapter and 17 verse: And 
he shall go before him in the spirit and 
power of Elia •-, to turn the hearts of the 
lathers to the children, and the disobedient 
to the wisdom of the just; to make ready 
a people prepared for the Lord. It seems 
they were prepared, John only had to And how many silly women, or churches, 



I hey 

creep into houses, and the apostle J udetells 
as in verse the 4, samething like this:- For' 
there are certain men crept in unawares, 
who were before of old ordained to this 
condemnation, ungodly men, turning the 
grace of our God into lasciviousness, and 
denying the only Lord God, &c. Do we 
not see them coming into our private hous- 
es and into our meeting houses, and using: 
all the influence they can to lead us astray. 



have they lead astray, and some they keep 
in ignorance. But blrssed be the Lord, 
someof them have been brought to see their 
error, and are coming out from them. But 
this does not slop the money hunters,whose 
mouths must be stopped, who subvert 
whole houses, teaching things, which t hey 
ought not, for filthy lucie's sake. We see 
them creeping into our Associations and 
doing all they can to lead them astray, and 
how many of the Associations have they 
distressed and peiplexr d, so thatwhen they 
meet-in associate c ip iC;t\ T they lake up one 
half of theirtime in contending against Ihe 
institutions of the day or money hunters. 

Notice what another inspired writer says, 
to wit, John the Reve ! ator, IS chapter and 
4 verse: And I heard another voice from 
heaven, saying. COME OUT OF HER, 
MY PEOPLE, &c. Now is it not necessary 
that we should come out from among them, 
For they siy that a pre icher without edu- 
cation cannot rightly divide the word of 
truth. If that is the truth, what is the 
reason that God calls so many illiterate 
preachers. I think I do know right smart 
of illiterate preachers, that are called of 
God to preach his everlasting gospel, and 1 
think I can judge of them sort of preachers 
heller than 1 can of these eduea'ed fellows. 
But I think I know ihe reason they are so 
anxious for education, it makes them better 
calculated to beg, and that is what they 
go in for. But when they are educated 
for a preacher, I ha I just as soon see a 
lawyer, who has never pmfts-ed religion, 
mount the stand as (hern?, and 1 should ex- 
pect to he benefitted as much by ir. Then 
let us Come out from among ihem. and may 
the blessed Lord bringall .is dear children 
out from among them, is mv prater for 
Christ's sake. JAR ED JOHNSON. 

Some of my brethren tell me that they 
wish to take the Primitive as long as they 
live, if it continues to hold forth the doc- 
trine that it has done heretofore, and I can 
say with a truth, that I have been made to 
sympathise ofien when reading many of the 
productions of my brethren, that have been 
published in the Primitive. 

I should like lo hear from old Brother 
Lawrence. 1 have not heard from him so 
long, that I have been fearful that he was 
sick, or something was the matter with 

No more at present, but I remain yours 
in the bonds of peace, love and affection. 


Florida. Gadsden county r , 

Dec 26th, 1839. 

Dear Brethren: 1 have bad an eye to 

the paper called the Primitive Bap'ist, for 

some lime. I am much pleased with the 

plan, for we can read them and thereby 

commune in our souls one with another, 

though we be thousands of miles from each 

(other and perhaps never may see each oth- 

|er\s fare in life. I should have joined in 

before ibis time, my fears have been that so 

Imany writing that perhaps 'here would be 

j wrang'dng; but much lo my satisfaction, 

jit appears to goon with a oneness, as I 

think ihe people of the Lord should do. 

May the Lord be with us ami unite us, is 
my sincere prayer for Christ's sake. 


to editors primitive baptist. 

Thomas ton, Upson county, Ga. ~) 
January 21s/, 1M0; $ 
Bear brethren Editoi.s: 1 again 
Write to inform you, that I wish you to 
coniinue sending the Primitive B-pti-t pa- 
pers to all those that I have wrote for from 
first to last, only those personsthat 1 have & 
may request, lo be stopped. 1 should have 
wrote to you before now, but being en- 
gaged about temporal affairs, I have been 
somewhat dilatory I must confess. But I 
beg to be excused, and if God should give 
me light and liberty I will try to do better 

Tennessee, A fad/son county, 
Dc. i'.it/i, 18. "79. 
Dear Brethren: As iron ,-harpcneth 
iron, soa man shar p'neth ihe countenance 
of his friend. Proverbs, 27c. 1 7 v. Again: 
As in vva'er tcf answereth to face, so the 
heart of m m lo man. Proverbs, 27 c. 19 v. 
Again: Then they that feared the Lord 
spake often one to another; and the Lord 
hearkened, and heard it, and a book of re- 
membrance was written before him for 
them that feared the Lord, and that thought 
upon his name. And they shall be mine, 
srilh the Lord of hosts, in that day when 
i I make up my jewels; & 1 will spare them as 
lamanspareth his own son thatserveth him. 
| Then shall ye return, and discern between 
| the righteous and the wicked, between 
him thatserveth God, and him that servelh 
j him not. Malachi, 3 c, 16, 17 and 18 vs. 
Then, brethren, seeing the many en* 



eouragemen's to persevere in the good old 
way, let us take the admonition of St. 
Paul where he snys: Forsake not the as- 
sembling of yourselves together as the 
manner of some is. 

Brethren, farewell. Live in pence, be 
of the same mind, each esteem others better 
th m him si If, bear one another's burthens, 
and the God of peace shall be with von. 

Alabama. Wilcox cottnfy, \ 
Dec'r22d, 18.39. \ 

Brethren Editors; I have been ta- 
king your paper ihu Primitive Baptist for 
the last three years, and am well pleased 
with the doctrine it contains. It has been 
Consoling to my very soul to find, that 
there are so many precious brethren in 
these United States that have not. bowed 
the knee to Baal, and are contending for 
the faith once delivered to (he saints. It 
makes me rejoice when I find that God 
has a people -in almost every part of (hi se 
United States, that are making it known by 
coming ou! from the world and declaring a 
non-feliowship with all the institutions of 
the day. 

Beloved brethren Editors, I live in a 
missionary settlement entirely, they are all 
round me and they advance docrine thaff 1 
do not believe in. They sav th it there 
are thousands of souls dying and going to 
"hell for want of our money ; and I do not 
believe in no such doctrine, neither do 1 
find any such s-r iprurrr in my old Book. 



North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. IV! Hi amnion, 
R. M. G. Moore, German/on. VV. w. Mizell, Pfy- 
tnouih. Jacob Swindell, Washington, James So-u- 
tlierland, Wurrmton. Alfred Parti n. Raleigh. 
Charles Mason, Roxboro' . James Wilder, An- 
derson's Store. Benj. Bynam, Speight's Bridge, H. 
Avera, Averusboro' . Parham Packet, RicliJands. 
Ji H. Keneday, Chalk Leue], B. Temple, Wake co. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leaksvitle. Wm. H. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, Smithfie\d. 
James H.Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Frnit,'. San- 
dy Creek, L. B. Bennett, Heathville. Alfred El- 
lis, Slrabane, Cor's Canaday, Cravensvil/c. Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creeki 3. Lamb, Camden 
C. Hi Allen Taylor. Jun. Rocky Mount. Ai B. 
Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Sawyer, Powell's 
Point. Isaac Til lery, Lapland. Francis Fletch- 
er, Elizabeth City. Harris VVilkerson, VV est Point- 
Isaac Alderman, Moore's Creeki 

South Carolina. — Wm. Hardy, Saluda Hill, 
James Hembree, Sen. Anderson C. H. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. B, Lawrence, Effingham, | 
James Burris, Sen. Bold Spring, William S.i 

Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackvilh. An- 
drew Westmoreland, Cashvi/le. James J. Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Branch. Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers, Crow~vi]\e t Marshal Mc- 
Graw, Brown's. John L> Simpson, Cookham's. 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. AI- 
len'Olevelanrd, Mclhnough. John McKenney, For- 
syth, Anthony FJolloway, Lagrange. P.M.Cal- 
houn, linoxville. R. Reese, Eaton/on, Thomas 
Amis and DavWl w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Neel, James Hoi lings worth and Stephen 
Castellow, M.icon. Charles P."TIansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bo\vt\inn,A lairsvil'e, R. Tolerand Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatoie. Clark Jackson and Ahednego Mc- 
GintVi Fort G tines. John LJavden, Franklin. P. 
IT. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, T'.ion- 
aston. \\ iW'iarn Bowden, Union Fa/lcy. Ezra \lc>- 
Crary, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. G. W. Holifield, Vernon. B. Pace, Van 
Wert. L. Peacock, Cus^viWe. Vachal D. Wliatley, 
Barnesville. Alex. Garden and Thomas Ci Trice* 
Mount Morne. Elias 0. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt. 
J. G. Wintringham, Hal/oca. William M< 
Amos, GreenviWe. Randolph Arnold, Lati- 
mer's Store. Thomas .!■ Bazemore, Clinton. 
Jo<iah Stovall, AquiWa. G. P.Cannon, CuWoden- 
»i\\e, Jason Grier, Indian Springs. William 
McElvy, Attapulgus. Furna Ivey, M'lledgeville. 
William Garrett, Cotton River, Jesse Moore* 
George Herndon and John Hardie, Ir- 
tvinton, Leonard Pratt, Whilesville. Thomas 
A. Sullivan, Decatur. Thomas J. Johnson, New- 
nan. Israel Hendon, Shi\o. Robert B. Mann, 
Chesnut Grove. VVm. Tippit, Cedar Branch. A.G. 
Simmons, Hickory Grove, John Lawhon, Che- 
nuba. John Heringlnn, Welborn's MAlst 
James Pi Ellis, PineoiWe, French Haggard, 
Athens. Henry Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Furl Valley, Josiab Gresham, While He/I Daniel 
O'.Veel, Fiwlion. John Applewhite, Wayneabaro't 
J. B. Morgan &.B,Pfoi>ase, Friendship, Sam'l Wil* 
\hmis, Far Play. John Wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hoolenwille. R, S. Hamrick, Carroll/on. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, '-flowery. Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, B\ake\y, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Rich ird Stephens, Sen'r, lie, John Stroud, ICarliW. James Sear* 
borough, StatesboroHgh, Young T, Siandifer*- 
Mdherry Grove, Robert. R, Thompson, Centre-' 
ville. Young Ti Stand ifer, Ma/be ry Grove. Ja- 
nd Johnson, Tioupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansville. Edmund Si Chambless, Sfa/lings 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, JoknstonviWe. David Rowell, Jr. Groo- 
versviWe. Joel Colley, Covington, VV. w. Pool, 

Alabama. — L.B. MoseTey, Cahiwba. A. Kea- 
ton, McConico.- John Blackstone, La Fayette. VV, 
w. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wm. w. W alker, Liberty < Hill. Dan'I 
GafFord, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow II ll, 
John G. Walker, Milton. Henry Williams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron. John F. Lo- 
vett, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Church Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leighton, 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones, Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w. 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her. 



ring, Clayton. G,w. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pl'asant Grove. William Cruteher, 
Hunisvil/e. W illiam Hi Cook, Pickensvi/le. 
Seaborn Hamrlc.k, Planlersville. William Mel- 
ton, Bluj? Port. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Win, 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rofus Daniel, an, An- 
derson w. Billiard, TuSgegee, Frederick Hines- 
Gastom Z, Johns, Tiara, MYi McDonald, Pdins- 
ville. A. Mitchell, Carter's Hill. William Pow- 
ell, Youngsville. James Hay, IVacuoca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson. Abbeville- David Tread well 
and R.w. C-d,r\\<s,]e, Mount Hid. :p-}/ . Sam'l T.Owen, 
Jlrgus, Joseph H.FIolloway, IL i~]c Green, Luke 
R. Simmons, Troy. Jps.-.r. Lee, Farmersvil'e, 
William S. Armstrong, Loui. vide. ; Mark Porter, 
Demopolis, Henry Adams, Js'iounl Willing. Joel 
Hi Chambless, Lowsvil/e. Elliot Thomas, iVil- 
liamston. F. Pickett, China Grove, James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M. Pearson, Dudevillc. VV. 
J. Sorelle, Wetumpka, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, Soukeehatehie. James Searcy, Irwinion. 
Hazael Litllefieid,./w:k?onivlIe. John w. Pellum, 
Franklin, Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D- Cooper, Wi\- 
jiamston, John Harrell, Missouri. James K, 
Jacks, Eliton. Henry Hillinrd, Bellville: John 
A. Miller, Oakfuskee. Durham Kelly, Alexan,- 
dria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Jlthensi 

Tennessee. — A. V. Fanner, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
fchael Burkhalfer, Checksville, Tho's K. Ciingan, 
Smith's |*i Roads. W.K.Pope, Philadelphia. Aaroii 
Compton, Somervil/e. Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, MecsvUle. James 
Maulden, Van Buren. A. Burroughs, Wesley. Wm. 
Croom, Jackson. Daniel Briggs, Decatur. Clenp- 
mons Sanders, Mount Vernon. Daniel Webb. 
Lexington^ Sion Rass, Three Forks, John w 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith H ansbfoxigR, Jacks 
Creek, Wilham Si Smith, Winchester. Isha'm 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Sevierville. 
Ira E. Douihit, Lynchburg, G.T. Ecbols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Medon. Levi Karkland and George 
Turner, Wuverly. Abner Steed, Mulberry. Henry 
Randolph, Stiodysville, Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
X Loads. J, Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
son, Jjong Savannah. Jas. H. Holloway, Hazel 
Green. William McBee, Old Town Creek, JJen- 
jamin w. Harget, Cherryvillei 

Mississippi. — Jesse Brittle, Meridian Springs. 
Tb os. H ol land , Dailvil/e. Worsha m M an n Columbus. 
Henry Petty, Zion. Wm. Huddleston, Thomas/on. 
Nathan Tims, Kosciusko. Jonathan D.Cain, Wa- 
terford. Nathan Morris, Lexingttwi,i Charles 
Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris, 
Wheeling. Simpson Parks, Lnchhart's Store, 
Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, W\n. Ringo, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas H. Dixon, Macon. John Erwin, 
Linkhornc, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and Micajah 
Crenshaw, Marion. Win. Warren, Dekalb, C. 
Nichols, Stamp Bridge. 

Florida^ — James Alderman and P. Blount,, 
China Hill. Da-vid Callaway, Cherry Lake. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, Marburyville. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro' 1 . Uriah Stevens, 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackvm. 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, G-rand View, 

James Marshall, Salem. Thomas w. Martin^ 
East tiehon. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac Wi Denman, Gallatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph IL Flint, Philanthropy. Johri 
B. Moses, Germanton, 

Kentucky. — Levi B, Hunt, Wanchester. 

Virginia. — Kemuel C. Gilbert, Syduorsv'lle. 
Rudolph Rorer, Bciger's Store. John ("lark, Fre- 
dericksburg. Wm. w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifax C, H, George w. Sanford,- 
ILirrisontiurg. Jesse Lankford, Bowers' s, Eli- 
jah Hansbrougli, Somerville. Wilson Davenport^ 
White House, 

Dis. Columbia. — Gilbert Beebe, Alexandria. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, South Hill. 
Joseph Hu'.ihes, Gum 'Tree. Nathan Everilt, 
iJhi/iicoa/s 1'own. 

Wisconsin Teh. — M. \v. Darnall, Blue River. 


Nathi Bradford, $6 
J am cs^o it th erl o rid , 5 
Barnit idol, 2 

A. G. Simmons, 5 
John Wayne, 1 

Willis Beckham, 1 
David Jaclks, 5 

Wm. Talloy, 10 

Jared Johnson, 5 
Prior L.«wis, 5 

Mars'l McGraw, 10 
Henry Jones, 1 

vVm>. Page, 1 

Jas. Garvin, 1 

John B. Moses, 2 
Thomas Amis, 5 

Henry Saxon, 2 
Mrs. F Little, 1 
Wm. Trice, 5 

Ira E. Donlhit, 5 

Ki nchen Si rick land 5 

John Bonds, ■ $3 
Wm. Crntcher, 20 
James W. Walkea,5 
John McQueen, 5 
Wm. doom, 7 

Wm. J. Roberts, l 
Pleasant A. Witt, 5 
P. Blount, 5 

Wm. Welch, 5 

L. B. Bennett, 4 
Wm. S. Shaw, 2 
John Bonds, 5 

B. Lawrence, 5 

James K. Jacks, 5 
Hezekiah West, 2 
Levi P. Wayne, 1 
Charles Hodges, 5 
John Moseley, 1 
Harris Wilkerson, 3 
David Smith, 5 

S. W. Burny, 1 
Jonathan Ned, 5 
Thomas Bagley, 3 
Aaron Tison, 5 

Burwell Temple, 10 
W. W. Pool, 5 

Simpson Parks, 5 

J. Col lev, 5 

E. M Amos, 1 

C. T. Echols, 2 

Wm. Burns, 5 

James P. Ellis, 5 

John Lamb, *S 

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VOL. 5. 


No. 3. 



Madison county, Ala. 7 
Dec. 3, 1839. $ 

Beloved Rrkthren in the Lord: 
Through the Primitive Baptist I have ex- 
tended my acquaintance very much, and 
when I become acquainted with persons 
J like, I am fond of their company and love 
their correspondence. . Therefore, I ad- 
dress you a few lines, the object of which 
is to comfort some one of God's poor dear 
feeble lambs; but. the comfort of the feeble- 

No vv, my brethren, will you fcnrn your 
minds to the 11 chap. Hebrews, 36 verse: 
And others had trials of cruel moekings 
and scourgings, &c. Now, my brethren, 
there must be two parties, one to mock, 
and the other to be mocked; and Peter 
says, think it not strange concerning the 
fiery trials which are to try you, for it is 
noi strange, for the just are to live by faith, 
according to the law of the gospel; and 
that faith is precious, because it is tried in 
the fire and found to be unto honor and 
glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ. 
And Daniel says, many are to be tried 
and made white. 
Now, my brethren, what a glorious grace 
A faith that is worth 

God has given us 

minded is so peculiar in grace, that I often 

fear I have not that quality to comfort ! trying, the faith of God's elect; the faith of 
God's children. For 1 read in the scrip- j the Lord Jesus; the principle of salvation 
tures, that none licked Lazarus's sores but j and not works. Add if our faith will not 
dogs. Now I read in God's word, that iflstand the fire, it is worth nothing; and no 
we be without chastisement, whereof all 1 matter how soon it is burnt up. For the 
are partakers^ then are we bastards and not love of money is the root of all evil, the 
sons. For if the Lord chasteneth us, he snare of the devil, destruction & perdition. 

deals with Us as with his children; for ev- 
ery son and sister too, that he receiveth, 
he chasteneth. And though no affliction for 
the present is joyous, but rather grievous, 

For them that covet it, dip themselves in 
many sorrows; but all the harm the fierv 
furnace done the Hebrew children, though 
seven times hotter than usual, was to burn 

nevertheless afterwards it yieldeth the ' off all their bands, and make the God of 
peaceable fruits of righteousness to them Israel manifest. And when Abraham was 
and them only who are exercised thereby, [tried, God was glorified; and God is glori- 
Now, my brethren, if a man was to build jfied now the same way he was then, and 
a machine that would not run by wind nor by the same people. And old Elijah 
water, steam nor no other power, you 'went to heaven in a chariot of fire, and 1 
would call him a bad workman. Criti- I conclude there is no other way for God's 
cise whd may, I am glad that man is a ma- 1 children to get to heaven now; -for they 
chine, and such a one as can be opera-! chosen in the furnace of affliction. And 
ted on. I beg to remark, that God did not says the prophet, I will bring the third 

make man what he is in nature, but Chris- 
tians are God's workmariship in Christ 
Jesus. And I grant the workman the 
privilege to operate his machine by what 
principle he pleases. 

part through the fire, and will try them as 
gold and silver is tried. And you know it 
takes a hot fire to try gold and silver. 
Thus 1 will leave in the midst of thee an 
afflicted and poor people, and they shall 



trust 'in the Lord. Therefore, my dear 
brethren, be of good courage, I hope you 
are in the road to heaven, God and glory. 
Some say that Crutcher was the ringleader 
of all the distress in the Flint River Asso- 
ciation; thank the Lord if it was so, for 
they said in old times that Paul had 
turned the world upside down,bypreaching 
the truth And if any thing has been 
done in this country for God's glory, it is 
the Lord's doing and it is marvelous in 
our eyes. 

Now, my dear brethren, may I exhort 
you, when they say all manner of evil of 
you falsely for my name sake, bear it pa- 
tiently, an3 never revile; for if a man suf- 
fers wrongfully and bears it patiently, it is 
a blessed thing; but it is no glory to a man 
to bear it patiently, when he is buffetted 
for his own faults. Count it all joy, my 
brethren, when ye fall into divers tempta- 
tions, for in every temptation he will 
make a way for your escape. The God of 
heaven has said it, and his word is good, 
for tribulation is the school of heaven, 
and Paul says, rejoice in it, knowing that 
tribulation worketh patience, and patience 
experience, and experience hope, and hope 
makelh not ashamed, because the love of 
God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Ho- 
ly Ghost which is given unto us. Thus it is 
a blessed school, that God sends his chil- 
dren to, for they learn things that they 
cannot learn no where else. These are 
they that come out of great pleasure — no, 
my brethren, such word in the Bible — out 
of great tribulation, there is where they 
come from. These are they, who have 
their robes washed and made white in the 
blood of the Lamb; these are they, who 
are the purchase of his blood; these are 
they, who are clothed in the righteousness 
of Christ; these are they, who are justified 
in his sight; these are they, who will 
mourn as long as they live in this world; 
these are the}', who bear the cross of 
Christ, love and serve him here below, wil- 
ling to live by the sweat of their own face, 
fear God and keep his commandments, 
that they may have aright to the tree of 
Mfe, and may enter in through the gates 
into the city. Blessed be the Lord, for his 
grace, and may his grace be with you all, 
rsiy dear brethren, whom I love in the 
truth, for truth's sake. And although al- 
together unworthy, poor and mean, a 
perfect bankrupt and an outcast too, many 
li'jublesand iorrowa too, yet in the name 
qjftha Laid Jotus, I hope 1 shall see you I 

all in the presence of the Lord &be forever 
happy around his throne; there to be like 
Jesus and see him as he is, to behold his 
smiles and hear his voice introduce us into 
the kingdom of his Father. Oh, my dear 
brethren, this is enough. Heaven and I 
am here. 

I must close my letter and leave the sub- 
ject, for this time. May Jonah's God put 
you on dry land, if his blessed will. 1 am 
yours affectionately in Christ. 



Jefferson county, E. Tennessee, > 
Bee. 22nd, IS 39. $ 

Brethren Editors: I take this oppor- 
tunity to inform you, that the Old School 
Baptists in this section of the country have 
a great deal of persecution, because they 
will not admit of the new schemes of the 
day to be brought into the churches. But 
we are getting clear of the New School 
Baptists, by separating from them. In 
our Association, Nolachucky, we divided, 
and the institutionist side were the most in 
numbers of lay membe is; we were as 
stiong in ministers as they were, & they the 
New School side were very overbearing 
and we retired to the woods and held our 
Association there. 1 think if we had 
been as determined to have kept the house 
as they were, that there would have been 
fighting done. 

I thank God for his overruling power, 
that he gave his people the spirit of meek- 
ness. May God enable all "of his children 
at all times to possess the spirit of meek- 
ness, for I think that this is the time that 
God has spoke of in the Rev. 20. ch. A 
certain time that satan should be loosed 
out of prison, and Gog and Magog should 
gather them together to battle; and the 
number of them should be as the sand of 
the sea. And then they are to encompass 
the camp of the saints about, and the be- 
loved city, and fire came down from God 
out of heaven and devoured them; and the 
devil that deceived them was cast into the 
lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast 
and the false prophet are, and shall be tor- 
mented day and night, forever and ever. 
The camp of the saints and the beloved city 
is the true Church of God, and the way 
that it is to be encampassed about, that 
false teachers and antichrist are to be so 
numerous, that they are to be a great many 
more in number than the members of 


Christ. And if this is riot the time that 
that part of the scriptures is fulfilling, I am 
deceived. For they are compassing land 
and sea to make one proselyte, and when 
they have made him, he is two fold more 
the child of hell than themselves. 
• And I have thought that missionism was 
that proselyte, for it is has made more in- 
terruption than any ihing that ever has 
been brought into the churches. And as 
the number of satan's ministers is to be 
more than God's ministers, by their false 
teaching they are to deceive the world and 
the world are to follow after them, or the 
beast. And of course they will encompass 
the church of God about, and when they 
accomplish that, no doubt but they will 
boast of their victory 5 and then God will 
eonsiime them, and deliver his church and 
take them home, where all his children 
Will meet together in one band. 

Brethren and sisters, look up, hold Up 
your heads, your redemption draws nigh. 
What a great change it will be in the mor- 
ning of the resurrection, when We shall 
all be clothed with Christ's righteousness. 
The happiness cannot be described. This 
Will make amends, and much more, for all 
of our troubles here belowv Brethren, we 
may expect persecution, for they persecu- 
ted our master; and much more may we 
expect it. And if we were not persecuted, 
We might Conclude that we were wrong. 

In my part of the country, it seems no 
hardship for some that call themselves 
Baptists to say hard things of the Old 
School Baptists; arid some limes they call 
Us hard heads, and that name I am willing 
to take; Christ has compared his children 
with sheep,and sheephavethe hardest heads 
of almost any animal. Therefore I think 
it suits the old Predestinarian Baptists, 
though the New School party give it to us 
in the way of burlesque. 

There was a division in Concofd and 
Bent Creek churches. The institutionists 
of Bent Creek church took the whole 
number up to the Association of both sides 
after we divided, and agreed that each 
member had liberty to have their names 
enrolled on which side they pleased. I 
think it was done to show a great number 
to the world, for I told their Clerk our num^ 
ber. Therefore, it was not for the want of 
information on the subject. 

The New School side of Concord church 
gave in their number 26, when their num- 
ber was 10. The alteration took place 
Gome few meetings before the Association. 

On the first day. the question was fakeh, 11 
rose in favor of the societies of the day, 
and four rose against them. There were 
several, that did not vote at that time said, 
that they were not ready, but they would 
vote before the Association. There was 
an arm of said church, composed of 
twelve members; the time was then ap- 
pointed for the arm to give her voice or* 
the matter. When the time rolled round, 
there were 4 of the members met, and two 
more sent their minds by one of the mem- 
bers. Them and the four that were pres- 
ent, declared nonfeliowship with the socie- 
ties of the day. Two more came on 
the next day, on Sunday, artd said that 
they were with the other members; one of 
the members has been deranged in her 
mind for some time, so she was numbered 
with the rest; and there w-are three that 
did not vote, but I had heard two of them 
come out decidedly on the Old Side. So 
the arm made their return to the church 
unanimous against the new institutions; but 
the Clefk of the church was there, and be- 
ing on the New School side, he made the 
return to the church; but it Was on the Old 
School side. 

And when the church met at her last 
meeting before the Association, he the 
Clerk said that there wen* but 4 in the 
arm and 4 in the church that had voted 
against the new schemes of the day; and 
as for the rest of the members that had 
not voted before, they should not have the 
opportunity of voting at all, because some 
of the New School had been electioneer- 
ing, and found out that the balance of the 
church was on the old platform. And 
one of the members returned from the 
New Side to the Old Side, so left them but 
10 instead of 26; and the Old Side with 
23, and one neutral. And these same 
men plead liberty of conscience, yet they 
would bind the balance down to their ways. 
So from this I thus judge that nothing is 
wanting but power to make the old Pre- 
destinarian Baptists suffer. 

Farewell, my beloved brethren and sis- 
ters in love, till the next interview. 



Athens, Ga. Dec, Q3rd, 1839. 
Dearly beloved Brethren: Hav- 
ing occasion to write, and not having an 
opportunity of giving a full relation of the 
distress someofthechurchesofthis(Oconee) 



Association have lately had to pass through, 
and hoping that some abler pen will soon 
give a full history of the matter; it may 
suffice for me at present to say, that ma- 
ny of our brethren who we thought stood 
firm with us, have been led off from us, 
by one of our brethren in the ministry. 
Bert should I not see it ia the Primitive 
from some other person. I shall feel it my 
duly to give a history of the matter in de- 

In my Utile communication of the Oth of 
September last, in vol. 4, page 314, 35 line 
from the top, the word defence should read 
"defiance" of the enemy. 

I feel a wish to have the Primitive read 
in every hole and corner in the United 
States. But there are many who will eith- 
er o-et mad or run, when it is read in their 
presence. And no wonder, for the scrip- 
lures inform us, that the time will come, 
yea, it is already come, when they will 
not endure sound doctrine. And they 
shall turn away their ears from the truth, 
and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Tim. 4, 
3 4. But blessed be God, there are some 

to be newly constituted, and liow they 
stood, &o. And a pretty strong piece it 
was, and as trite as it was strong, as far as 
my knowledge extends. I made right 
smart parade about some printing they 
promised to do, &o. counteracting former 
prints from under their hands. 

I now write to let you know that they 
have printed, so you may set it down as a 
truth, an indisputable truth. So do not 
blame them, on that matter, for they are 
clear on that score, and I am glad to tell 
you so. I love right things amazingly^ 
and that was right. 

They commenced with the Minutes of 
1833, or so much of it as regarded E. Tal- 
bot's being suffered to preach the Intro- 
ductory Sermon, and being elected Mode- 
rator, while he the said Talbot was in dis- 
order. The churches confess that the As- 
sociation erred, and this is what is said on 
that Minute. There is nothing, said of the' 
proper delegation from Providence being 
rejected, and this man Talbot remaining 
with the Association, and the great distress 
occasioned by it. What mind on one mo- 

and if we know the truth, the truth shall 
make us free; and if the Son therefore 
shall make us free, we shall be free indeed. 
Then let us stand fast in the liberty where- 
with Christ hath made us free, and be 
hot entangled again with the yoke of bond- 

1 am no preacher, and we have but few 
preachers in our tittle Association; and I 
would say to the preaching brethren of 
our order, come over into Macedonia and 
help us. In the language of the psalmist 
David, I would say to you: Walk about Zi- 
on, and go round about her: tell the towers 
thereof, mark ye Well her bulwarks, consider 
her palaces; that ye may tell to the genera- 
tions following. My membership is at 
Black's Crete k* 20 miles from Athens — 
Oconee Association. And may the Lord 
sanctify truth and pardon error, is the 
prayer of your unworthy brother for 
Christ's sake. 


even here in Georgia, that we hope have | ment's reflection is not ready to conclude, 
been made to know and love the truth; that, had the delegation of (he church been 

received, the Minutes would have read 
quite differently ; and no doubt the churches 
and Association might have remained in 

My brethren, I am ready to believe,' 
that error and distress was by you in your 
council overlooked. So I will try to look 
over it as such. 

Again, in Minute for 1S34, the Associ- 
ation prefers an acknowledgment to that 
Minute, in meeting, at Columbia, instead 
of Providence church, as directed in the' 
Minutesof 1S33. You will recollect the 
account I have heretofore given of the run 
of the above matter; compare the account 
with the above recited acknowledgments, 
then judge that is honest and fair too. 

Again, on the Minute of 1S37, the Associa- 
tion prefers an acknowledgment for receiv- 
ing a minority, or rather the report of a 
minority of a certain committee, instead of 


Alabama, Henry county, ) 
Dec. 12///, 1S39. \ 
Dear brethren Editors: 1 wrote 
some time since of Chattahoochy River 
Association, and of the churches arriving 

a majority; hut I know nothing about the 
run of that matter, and shall say nothing 
about it. Only they made the acknowl- 
edgment, because they thought it was due. 
so perhaps they are satisfied and so am I. 

Now 1 will tell you what 1 am thinking. 
I am thinking what a striking picture here 
is of the frailty of human nature, to think 
that a whole (synod) so to speak, of men 
while in the performance of the most sol- 



emn duties pertaining to the house of God, 
should so easily, yea once and again, be 
led into error, and wound the most sacred 
of causes. It is enough to alarm humani- 
ty without exception, to cry mightily to 
God for the guidance of his spirit. But 1 
cannot find the end of my thoughts on this 
matter, so 1 must leave them and spring 
to something else. 

And first, I want to correct some blun- 
ders I discover in my last piece 1 wrote 
for the Primitive. I never knew that 
Rabshaketh was the king of Syria till I saw 
it in the Primitive; nor then either. 1 
suspect he was an officer instead of a king, 
and am willing for it to be understood so. 
Again, on page 309 of Primitive, 20ih 
!No. where I say, that "you migbifc take 
cure of those sneaks in sheep's clothing; 
the hands that managed us by way of 
slandering us" — it should stand thus: and 
the hands that managed us, &c. Agdn, "as 
for the balance, we will put out their eyes" 
— it should follow: or destroy them at plea- 
sure, I find in another place (and) too 
much, and in another a letter left out; all of 
which I have discovered, and they are not 
the first such blunders 1 ever made by 

I must leave off apologizing for the pre- 
sent, and inform you that some of my 
brethren of the Chattahoochy River Asfeo- 
ciation want me to write on the imputation 
of Christ's righteousness to his elect. 
They say it is understood by some, that I 
in my principles do not hold it; and there- 
fore there is a bar between us. Now I 
will say, that if I do deny the imputation of 
Christ's righteousness to his elect, that well 
there may be a bar; but I never knew 1 
was accused of it tiil a few days ago a broth- 
er told me I was. So I thank brother for 
telling me; it was an act proving his friend- 
ship to me, aud I hope by the aid of God's 
spirit to relieve my wounded brother, if 
Christ died for him. 

In writing on the delightful theme of 
Christ's righteousness imputed to poor 
sinners like me, I cannot be so lengthy as 
I would wish; for it is a glorious doctrine, 
on which my soul feasts. So if I leave my 
reader before I would wish, by being com- 
pelled to close, I hope to leave him in a 
good condition, (viz:) feasting 'u\ or on 
the love of God, for the glorious plan of 
salvation through Jesus Christ. I will try 
to be as short and plain as 1 can, and oh, 
for a gale of God's grace to waft my little 
fcgrls in the ocean of God's eternal love, 

that we may see that God ks love. Love 
is stronger than death, love was the moving 
cause of man's redemption. Eternal wis- 
dom viewed the fallen condition of poor 
sinners, and their utter inability to relieve 
themselves. Eternal love seems to be 
touched with compassion for poor sinners 
and engaged for their redemption. Justice 
frowning on them as guilty, dead sinners, 
but oh, love is not reconciled to give them 

Behold the love to poor sinners, and 
love did and will prevail. Wisdom 
drew the wondrous, the glorious plan, 
whereby guilty sinful man, could again be 
reinstated in favor with God, consistent 
with the attribute justice; and virtually pre- 
scribes that Jesus, the darling Son of the 
most high God, must be given to justice in 
covenant as a sacrifice for sin, and that ho 
must in the fulness of the time be actually- 
revealed, take on himself a body like unt.j 
ours, and for sin condemn sin in the flesh, 
that we might be made the righteousness 
of God in him; which righteousness it was 
the eternal mind of God should be imputed 
to poor sinners. 

Behold, my brethren, what manner of 
love ; the Father hath bestowed on us. 
Was ever love like God's love? Flear him 
saying, here^ justice, I give my Son,' my 
onlv Son, to thee, as a law-ful filler, as a 
sacrifice for the sins of my people, that he 
may be their resurrection and their life, 
and be reinstated in favor with thee. Jus- 
tice says, it is enough, I am satisfied; Jesus 
is an all-sufficient sacrifice. Behold, then, 
mercy and justice rejoicing in the glorious 
.scheme of man's redemption. Behold, 
I righteousness and peace kfss each other. 
J All is exactly complete in Jesus, and was 
i virtually so in the covenant of redemption, 
before or from the foundation of the world. 
There poor sinners stood in the eye of 
God, completely clothed and justified from 
under the condemnation of the law by the 
imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ. 
Jesus is and was the head of his church. 
Take away the imputed righteousness of 
Jesus, and you take away all the Chris- 
tian's life; for they have no righteousness 

But blessed be God, dear brethren, the 
life that we now live, we live by faith in 
the Son of God; who hath loved us and 
save himself for us and hath said, because 
I live ye shall live also. He is gone away 
to prepare a place for us, yes, a better 
place 1 trust tl an this world of trouble. 



And blessed be his name, he has saiil, he 
will come for and receive us home to him- 
self, where we shall all safely arrive and 
all our troubles will be at an end; and we 
through the imputed righteousness of our 
blessed Lord, be admilied into the glorious 
city of God, there to spend a never-ending 
eternity in his praise. 

1 must close. I hope I leave my reader 
feasting on the imputed righteousness of 
Jesus Christ. I will close in the lan- 
guage of old Simeon, -'Now, Lord, lettesl 
ihDU thy servant depart in peace; for mine 
eyes hath seen thy solvation, which thou 
hath set before the face of all people, and 
the glory of thy people Israel. Fare ye 

January \2th, 1S40. 
Dear brethren Editors: In my 
last to you, I forgot one thing. In my re- 
vocation which 1 promised to write, 1 said 
the Minute was forwarded to the printing 
office, money paid over for printing, &c. 
after all the printing was neglected. (This 
I received by information from Elder Jas. 
Caddenhcad. ) I looked at it and then gues- 
sed there were sneaks about yet. I feel 
gratified in informing you, that the Clerk 
that was to have the Minutes printed, was 
instructed by several churches, or very 
worthy brethren of fair standing belonging 
to several churches, to do as he did do. So 
he is clear of censure. And those brethren 
saw no propriety in having the Minutes 
alluded to printed as they judged they 
would come out entirely too late to answer 
any valuable purpose. Hut they since put 
to and printed them, and so all is right 
on that score. And I am glad to say so, 
for I love to write handsomely of my 
brethren, if I can in justice. 

I hope those brethren will excuse me for 
not writing this piece in my last to the 
Primitive, as 1 entirely forgot it; (or it 
came not in my mind while writing that 
piece.) Nothing more on hook. I re- 
main yours as ever. 



Barbour county, Alabama, 
January lll/i, lS^O. 
Dear Brethren: 1 take my pen in 
hand to comply with the duty assigned me 
by the Pea River Baptist Association for- 
merely, but now known by the name of the 
Tea River Primitive Baptist Association. 

I shall here pen down the resolution of 
the above named Association, while in 
session on the 16th, 17th, and 18th days 
cf November, 1839, together with a copy 
of the Circular Letter annexed; which is the 
2G!h article of the Minutes of the above 
named Association. 

Article 26th. Unanimously agreed, that 
this Association in future be known by the 
name of the Pea River Primitive Baptist 
Association; and we as a body in council de- 
clare a non-fellowship with all the unscrip- 
tural institutions of the day, such as Theo- 
logical Schools, State Convention, Mission- 
ary Societies, Bible Societies, Tract Socie- 
ties, Sunday School Union, Temperance 
Society, and their kindred relations; hold- 
ing them to be unscriptural. And that a 
copy of this resolution be sent on by the 
Clerk, together with a copy of our'present 
Circular Letter to the Primitive Baptist, to 
be published in that paper as soon as con- 

By order of tlvi Association. 


Joseph Thigpen, Clerk. 


The Pea River Baptist Association to the 
churches she represents: 

With much joy we receive your annu- 
al report, in which we have the evidence 
of your obedience to the Lord so clearly 
manifested in that you have peace among 
yourselves. May you still more abound, to 
the glory of God. 

VV 7 e would call your attention to the 
command of Jesus to his disciples a short 
time before he was crucified. Mark, chap. 
13th, v. 27th: And what I say unto you 
I say unto all, watch. This command was 
of much comfort and advantage to the dis- 
ciples in obedience to the same, that their 
minds might not be disturbed at those 
things that should follow as signs of the 
divine judgments that should be sent against 
the Jewish nation. For that day and hour 
knoweth no man, no not the angels which 
are in heaven, neither the Son but the Fath- 
er. Wherefore they wore directed to take 
heed to the things that he the blessed Sa- 
viour had told them. And when they the 
disciples should see those things come to 
pass, the divine judgments were nigh, even 
at the doors. 

And what was stated to the disciples, 
we may consider was written for our learn- 
ing, and equally obligatory on the disciples 



of Jesus, in every age of the gospel dispen- 
sation. For the same spirit of antichrist, 
was then in the world, and yet is in the 
world. The spirit of antichrist denied 
that Jesus Christ had come in the flesh, & of 
course was an enemy to the church of Christ. 
Matthew, chap. 24th v. 5ih: For many 
shall come in my name, saying, I am 
Christ, and shall deceive many. v. 23rd, 
If any man shall say unto you, la, here is 
Christ, or there, believe it not. v- 24th, For 
there shall arise false Christs, and false 
prophets, and shall show great signs and 
wonders, insomuch that if it were possible 
they shall deceive the very elect (or 

The Lord Jesus not only commanded 
them to watch, but also the great advantage 
they should have to the comforting of their 
minds. Mark, chap. 13th, v. 23rd, Take 
heed, behold I have foretold you all things. 
Ltfke, chap 21st, v. ISth: There shall not 
a hair of your head perish, v. 19th, In 
your patience possess ye your souls. In 
the chapters to which we have cited, many 
more signs were to be of equal advantage; 
but what we have quoted may suffice the 
limits ofa circular. The false Christs in 
the modern ages make their appearance 
in the many new systems of religion of the 
Son of God, and clothing the same by quo- 
tations of scripture, just so as to suit their 
purposes to deceive. And thereby man}* are 
deceived, and being deceived become very 
zealous to defend the same; &in this case, 
we may consider the false prophets allude 
to ministers employed to promulgatethe doc- 
trines necessary to suit said systems, under 
the title of gospels — the said systems and 
gospels being the inventions of men and so 
agree with their wisdom. They being 
deceived go on to deceive, and such 
being employed in the ministry, their 
wisdom must also qualify them for the 
same. Therefore we see the great 
need they have for theological or di- 
vinity schools, to teach men, or their 
ministers or prophets, how to defend 
the new schemes or systems? The conclu- 
sion is, that such systems are nothing better 
than mechanical systems. The antitype 
of those images known among the people 
in days of old then called gods, therefore 
the arts and inventions of men which 
require the wisdom of men to snpport. 

We should never neglect the divine 
command, I say unto all, watch. In so 
doing we may be able to try the spirits and 
false prophets that are gone out into the 

world. First epistle general of John, chap. 
4th, v. 1st: Believe not every spirit, but 
try the spirits whether they are of God; for 
many false prophets are gone out into the 
world, v. 2nd, Every spirit that, confesseth 
thatJesusChrist is come in theflesh is of God. 
v. 3rd, Every spirit that confesseth not that 
JesusChrist is come in the flesh is not of God. 
And this is that spiritof antichrist, where- 
of ye have heard that it should come and 
even nowrdready is in the world. We have 
need to- watch that our peace may not be 
marred. Note. Try the spirits, not words, 
for the tongue is an unruly member and will 
dissemble to suit the seducing spirits and 
doctrines of devils. 

But, beloved brethren, we have not recei- 
ved the spirit of this world but the spirit 
of God; whereby we know the things that 
are freely given us to God, and that you 
ate not of the world even as Christ is not 
of the world. And by watching you can 
discern the seducing spirits and doetrines 
of devils; therefore, watch and when it is 
said that God doth call whom he will 
to preach his gospel, and the church sends 
or he who is called should go to school, you 
know that such a spirit, is not of God; but 
a false spirit, and the doctrines are the doc- 
trines of devils. They have a form of godli- 
ness, but deny.the power thereof; for you 
know that Jesus Christ is all-sufficient 
to call, and by his spirit qualify and send 
them when and where he pleases, and 
accompanied by his ministering angel ena- 
ble them to declare his everlasting gospel. 
Such ye know are calculated to bring glad 
tidings and comfort the people of God, 
they being able rightly to divide the word, 
and give to each his portion in due season, 
having the true gospel. Their doctrine 
one, their order one, their practice one; 
having the same spirit of Christ formed in 
them the hope of glory. 

Therefore, no institutions but such as 
are found in the gospel, believing the Old 
and New Testaments to be the word of 
God, and alone sufficient for faith and 
practice; and have no need of any tracts 
but the apostles as they followed Christ, 
who is theonly way to the Father. There- 
fore watch, and try the spirits; and if 
any bring any other gospel, though he be 
an angel let him be accursed. If they 
should steal from the mouth of your 
ministers a true form of doctrine, and 
add any institutions not found in the 
gospel and say, lo here is Christ, he is a 
false prophet- go not after him. For unto 



you it isgiven to know the mysteries of 
the kingdom, by his spirit that dwelkth in 

Therefore, watch and try the spirits, lest 
they by deception g<->t into the church and 
disturb your peace; for such ye know are 
not. humble but high-minded, will claim 
preferments and cannot consider others bet- 
ter than themselves. No, not the things of 
Jesus Christ, but their own things to meet 
their institutions, which are of the world 
and the world hearelh them. Touch not, 
handle not the unclean thing, and I will 
receive you, saith the Lord Almighty 
Tlie Lord hath made known his salvation. 
Infinity needeth no counsellor,omnipotency 
needei!) no aid, omnipresence comprehends 
eternity; therefore, his counsel shall stand 
and he will do all his pleasure, and his glory 
he will not give to another, there being no 
God beside. Amen. 

Dear brethren, may this which we have 
written while in counsel, have the desired 
pffeet to Stir up your pure minds by way 
of remembrance, thereby enabling yon 
to guard against the new inventions and 
institutions of the day, which only tend to 
promote vain glory and not the glory of 
God; hut naturally lend to mar the peace 
of the saint*, by causing contention and 
much strife. It follows without doubt, 
to all those who doth watch and by tlie 
word of God try the spirits. 

Finally, char brethren, we conclude in 
the words of Jesus: What 1 say unto you 
I say unto all, watch. Grace be unto you 
and peace frorifl God our 'Father, and the 
Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. 

JlUiBMLlIl KLMB.1L, ModW. 

Joseph TVtigpen, Clerk. 


SATURDAY, FE;3kUARY 8, 1810. 

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conveniently can do so — however sound the local 
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fVilliamsion, N.C. IS Dec'r, 1839. 

Dear B.iKrniiEN: Having recently 

received a lively comfriunicatwm from our 

much esteemed brother, Elder James 

Oobourn, at present of YVoburn, Massachu- 

setts, I tho't it would be nothing amiss (a 
lay it before you all, thro' the medium of 
the "Primitive Baptist." Christian epistles 
are calculated to benefit all the household of 
faith. And although they may be specially 
addressed to one member thereof, and in 
some respects peculiarly applicable to him; 
yet not unfrequently they take a range so 
general in its nature as to he acceptable and 
profitable to all; — tending towards spirit- 
ual comfort and edification. 

Brethren, this practice of Christian cor- 
respondence, which appears to have been, 
a little revived of late years amongst the 
adherents to our faith and order, through 
the medium of periodicals, 1 think highly 
useful to the persecuted remnant who. are 
saved according to the election of grace, if 
conducted in a becoming spirit j that is, pro- 
vided theypiomote harmony, humility, 
reverence and holiness; provided they 
strengthen our faith and inciease our flh- 
dersianding of the scriptures, and of tha 
will of God concerning us in Christ Jesus 
our Lord. But if they have a tendency to 
the reverse of the ends above named, my 
soul has no pleasure in them; and so far aa 
1 am concerned, 1 would prefer casting 
them all to the moles and the bats, and 
to forever close this medium of communi- 

It cannot, be disguised, brethren, ncith- 
er should it be amongst candid men, that 
during this present year opposition has 
broken out in a certain quarter against two 
prominent members of our profession, viz: 
Elder Joshua Lawience and the author of 
the following letter. They have been bv 
those sustaining the character of Old School 
Baptists not only sharply censured, but ut- 
terly condemned as unworthy of confi- 
dence and unprepared to teach the way of 

Brethren, these tilings not only sour on 
our minds, but they seem truly sickening 
to ihe child of God, who is earnestly pray- 
ing for the peace and prosperity of Z;ou. 
May the Lord giant tbai our minds may 
be more stayed on him, who is abie to save 
from the whirlpools of distention and 
sLnfe, and enable us to see eye to eye and 
speak one and the same things iu Cnrist, to 
the glory of God the Father. 

1 cioae by remaiking, that if Lawrence 
and Osbourn know nothing of salvation by 
grace, 1 think myself entiiely destitute of 
mat knowledge. If they are aliens and 
.ill augers to tlie common wealth of Israel, 
1 think myself equally so; and if their 



names arc to be read out ofthe church, and 
they themselves thrown overboard, mine 
had as well he, fur I shall certainly go a- 

long with them. 

C. B. II. 1 SS ELL. 

C. B. ILisseU, Martin count)/, N. C. 

Mr dear Huotheh: Grace Ire with 
thee. I am yet in Wobiirn, and I know not 
when it wili be otherwise; hut how much I 
want to see you all, ami again to spend five 
or six months in your State, I cannot begin 
to talk about. My soul is often with you 

I have written more since I have been 
in this town, than 1 ever wrote in my life 
in the same length of time; hut writing to 
friends has been much neglected, but soon 
it will revive auniu. Never since I have 
been in the ministry have I enjoyed myself 
in my public labors (or rather enjoyed the 
Lord.) as I have done for the whole eight 
months in this place; nor never have I seen 
better and greater effects produced by my 
ministry. 1 want to set down and tell all 
of you all about it, but you see 1 cannot. 
Methinks heaven will he the place to talk 
about immoital love, and sovereign grace, 
and boundless mercy, and the glorious gos 
pel, and the blessed works, and ways, and 
operation, and influences of God the Fath- 
er, God the Sou, and God the Spirit- 
Bless the Lord, my soul; and all that is 
within me, bless his holy name. God is 
good to lsiael, and to such as are of a con- 
trite heart; anil 1 know it, and hence 1 
cm but si)', Praise ye the Lord, for he is 
good and Ins mercy eudureih i'nv ever. Lei 
Israel rejoice in the Lord, ami let Zion re 
jji' e in ner king, and let every thing lint 
hath breath pr.use the Loud. 

My i)io he:, how is it with the new 
man of a,iace in your soul? Is he in health, 
and lively, and strong! Does he semii to 
go forth at times in warm dedres, ami ho? 
iy pajnfciags, and earnest longings, and hr 
vent Dieatbings after him who created him 
in righteousness and true holiness? And 
faith loo — i would ask about faith -how 
does faith seem to g t along and behave 
himself m-tuese day? Duos ha conduct 
himself well in a storm, and when no small 
tempest is on you? And when the ene- 
m, conn In in like a flood, orlikea sweep- 
ing rain, which leaveth no food, Isa. 5£. 
19; Prov. 28. 3. How about faith, at such a 
time? does he (day the hero well, or 
fiiaeh some little? 1 know very well that 
he acts bravely on ail such occasions, when 

lie is in a right good mood. In one of his 
good moods he said, 'Although he slay me 
yet will 1 trust in him; Job, 13. 15. In a- 
nolher he said, Though a host should en- 
camp against me, my heart shall not fear,' 
Psa. 27. 3. In another he said, I will trust 
and not be afraid, Isa. 12. 2. In another he 
said, Rejoice not against me, mine ene- 
my: when I fall, 1 shall arise, Micah, 7. S. 
In another he said, ^Although the fig-tree 
shall not blossom, m it her shall fruit he in 
the vines, &c. ; yet I will rejoice in the 
Lord, I will joy in the God of my salva- 
tion,' Hab. 3. 17. 13. In another he said, 
'When I am weak, then am I strong,' 2 
Cor. 12. 10. 

The Lord grant that this divine faith 
may bsstrongand lively in the hearts of 
all my dear brethienand friends, in Mar- 
tin and in counties adjacent, and in the 
woild V roughoul; and then shall the God 
oi' Israel be honored and extolled by them 
all, and true gospel peace rest upon them, 
and immortal love lid and fire their souls, 
and raise their affections from earth to 
heaven.. This immortal love of Christ 
Jesus our Lord is the grand object of the 
inspired volume, and it is therein set. forth 
to the view of faith; and yet after all that is 
revealed of it, it remains an unfathomible 
ocean. Indeed, the more we know of it, 
the more we wonder at it and are lost in 
holy amazement. The bloody sweat which 
Ciuist bedewed his body with, when con- 
tlietin^ with our sins and divine wrath in 
the girden of Gethsennne, together with 
the siripes he endured, and the crown of 
thorns winch he wore, and his crucifixion 
and death, all loudly proclaim his boundless 
love to mis* rab.e sinnei s. 

One look of love from our loving S.tvi- 
our, and one look of f.uth to him by u<, 
vvid melt the hearis, and enliven the a If c- 
tions, and warm the soul, and subdue sin, 
conquer corruptions, and banish darkness 
from the mind; and check wander; eg 
thoughts, and heal a wounded spun, and 
becalm a troubled bosom, and sHtle a dis- 
turbed conscience, and make the lame man 
leap as a hart, and the tongue of the dumb 
sing. And at such at time, and under such 
a look, Christ is more precious to us than 
gold; yea, than hue gold; and we can draw 
near to him, even m;o his dear bosom, 
and there solace ourselves, and rejoice a- 
loud in Christ the L.-rd. In this loving 
and lovely Saviour, Christ, the anointed of 
the Father, we live, and grow, and thrive. 
But we not only live in him, and on him, 



and by him, and to him, and for him; but? all your troubles, and your wants, and ask 
we also have a life in him, which even 'him for ail tl 

death itself cannot destroy, for it is hid a- 
way where death cannot come, nor even so 
much as peep, for you know it is hid in 
God, Col. 3. 3, and of course, all must 
needs be safe there, no mishaps or sad 
disasters can befal us here. Here we are 
safe from the avenger of blood, and from 
the windy storm, and from the terrrible 
blast, and from the wreck of nature and 
the crush of worlds. 

In this mortal life, and in these our 
mortal bodies, we are tried, and templed, 
and annoyed, and afflicted, and reproached 
and belied : — we also at times are greatly 
oppressed, and bowed down, and much 
in the dark, and things iri providence and 
grace seem to make so much agonist us, 
that we are troubled on every side, and go 
mourning all the day long, and we know 
not when it will be better with us, and we 
often fear it never will, and hence we sink 
low down and are greatly disquieted. 
And yet, my dear brother, notwithstand- 
ing all these dreadful things, our life, which 
is hid with Christ in God, is safe and un- 
touched; and in this truth, and on the ac- 
count of this security, let us be glad and 
rejoice, and no longer indulge despair nor 
act the liar's part. 

For my own part, I can truly say, that 
viewing my safe and firm standing in 
Christ in the light I do; and drawing such 
sweet conclusions from it as 1 do; and en- 
joying so much of the blessed comforts 
resulting from it as 1 generally do; my 
mind is tranquil, and my soul is happy, 
and the gospel is increasingly precious to 
me, and preaching the same to my fellow 
creatures, and seeing them feed on it and 
rejoice in it, as they do here in Woburn, is 
my delight; and the reproach, and scorn, 
and scandal, heaped upon me by carnal 
professors in these parts, or in any other 
parts, or of whatever school they belong to, 
move me not, for all is well with me in 
our most glorious Christ. A peaceful 
mind, a graieful heart, a contrite spiri 

that he hath to bestow on poor 
needy sinners; and also plead his promise, 
and rest on his faithfulness, and rejoice in 
his salvation: — and so shall it be well with 
thy soul, both in this life and in the life to 

The church which I preach to here are 
thoroughgoing old fashion Baptists, and 
hence with warm approbation, and in great 
love, and with much rejoicing, do thev re- 
ceive my preaching. I never preached 
with so much pleasure & good feelings for so 
long a time together, as 1 have since I have 
been in this town, nor did I ever wriie so 
much in the same length of time as 1 have 
done since I have been here. 

Write to me when you can. My love 
to all. Adieu. J./1S. OS BOURN. 

Woburn, Mass. Nov. 6, 1839. 

To Elder /i. NuckoJs, Barren county, Ky. 
My worthy Brother in the Loi'.n: 
Grace be with thee. Amen. Your affec- 
tionate letter came safe a few days ago, and 
it was cordially received by me. It also 
found me in good health of body and mind. 
Bless the Lord for his goodness and grace. 
My mind, brother Nuckols, in a general 
way, is kept in a sweet frame, and much 
led out in admiration of God's distinguish- 
ing mercy to me and others. I also often 
think of you and the brethren in your parts 
with much delight, and greatly do I wish 
and long to see all of you once more: but it 
appends much as if it was the will of the 
Lord, that I should continue my ministry 
among the saints in this town, for the gos- 
pel is certiinly much needed here. God 
grant that my coming here may redound 
greatly to his glorious honor — to the 
praise of his grace — to the comfort of 
the saints, and to the conversion of sin- 

Brother Elder HirtweM, of the State of 
Maine, who was the instrument in the h>nd 
of God of getting me here, told me when [ 
first arrived bete last March, that bo 
thought my settling in Woburn would he 

and a firm reliance on divine clemency, are the birth day of Old Schoolism in New 

blessings and favors which none but a God 
can bestow, and which no man knows the 
worth of but he who possesses them: but 
true it is, that these divine blessings are far 
more valuable than a sound creed in the 
head, while the heart is destitute of grace. 

Look alone to the Lord, dear sir, and 
draw all your hope and comfort from him, 
and try to live near to him, and tell him 

England; but more of this at another time. 
My brethren and friends here are very 
loving and affectionate; they dearly love the 
truth too, which is better yet. They for 
years past have been worn out, and worn 
down, by the commandments of men and 
another gospel. At last, nearly two years 
ago, they to the amount of 45, came out of 
Babylon and were soon formed into a sep- 



nrate body, calling themselves by the name 
of, The Independent Baptist Church. 
At first, a man preached for them a few 
times by the name of Jackson, but since 
then he has become a Universal ist. A 
while before I came, ElderHartwell preach- 
ed for them, and at last I was written for 
and I came; and I can truly say, that in no 
circumstance concerning me sines I 
have been in the ministry, have I more 
clearlv seen the hand of the Lord, than in 
my being bro't here. I scruple not to say, 
that the power and grace of God is amoa^ 
us, and we live and move in peace and 
love, & rejoice together in hopeof the glary 
of (he Lord of hosts. 1 have baptized two, 
and nine in the whole have been added un- 
to us since I first came here. 

Join with me, my brother, in praising 
the Lord, for my soul is happy. But hap 
py, or not happy, you know the Lord is 
worthy of all our praises, & of all our songs, 
and of all we have & are; & I wish we may 
be enabled to surrender all we have to him 
The day I received your letter, I also re- 
ceived one from my worth}'' brother Elder 
Poteet, and he (ells meofthedeaih of broth- 
er Elder Scott, near Baltimore. He was 
considerably laborious in the ministry, but 
quite limited in talent and in theological 
knowledge, — but zealous, plain and un 
assuming, and I trust truly pious. I was 
well acquainted with him from the be- 
ginning to ihe end, (or nearly so) of his min- 

We shall come to our end by and by; 
and through the tender mercy of God, I 
frequently look forward for my dissolu- 
tion with much pleasure and with more joy 
than they that watch for the morning, for 
I know whom I have believed, and you 
know him too; and I wish you may en- 
joy much of his presence, while you are 
waiting on this isthmus of time, for the 
sounding of Ihe trump of God and the voice 
of ihe archangel. Death will put a stop to 
all vice, and folly, and lies, and errors, and 
pains, and sorrows, and griefs, and woes, 
and labor, and toil, and idle disputations. 
But even while we are here in the midst 
of all these things, the Lord is good 
tons, and he is our stronghold, and sure 
refuge, and in this may we rejoice and be 
exceeding glad; and also let us remember 
with pleasure, that none can hurt us 
while we ate followers of that which is 
good. Let us also bless God for his grace 
and O for more of it, that we thereby may 
Jove him more, and serve him better, and 

more cheerfully speak of the glory of his 
kingdom, and talk of his power. Di- 
vine grace enjoyed in the soul sinks 
this world very much in one's esti- 
mation; at least I find it so, and so 
I hope ever to find it, and so I hope you 
will find it also: and in order that we may 
find this to be the case, it will be-well for us 
to seek unto the Lord with great fervency 
of spirit; and the Lord says, that he will 
be found of those that seek him; when 
they search for him with all their heart. 

Should you go to Indiana in the spring, 
1 wish you would go into Posey and Gib- 
son counties among my friends; you will 
be pleased with them, and, I should like to 
see them again. I had a letter two or 
three months ago from brother Eider 
Sallzman, of Posey county, and I have an- 
swered it. A few, (two or three) months 
ago I had a sweet letter from our brother 
Elder King, of Tennesee. <'*ive my kind 
love to all our brethren and friends, in and 
about Barren county. Write when you 
can. Adieu. 


Woburn, Mass. Jan. 23, 1840. 


Effingham, Bar. Bis. So. Ca. 
Jan. 12///, '40. 

My dear Old School Friends: You 
may have thought from my long silence, 
that 1 had joined the Quakers. No, friends, 
I join no sect that enjoins eternal silence. 
None of those hand-fuiding folks crying 
peace, peace, for me; neither do I want any 
of your lukewarm, at-ease-in-Zion-folks. 
Nor am I any better pleased with those 
gadding pharisees, who are compassing sea 
and land to make a proselyte, and after' they 
have made them, they are two-fold more 
the child of hell than they were before. 
Give me the Christian soldier, that is wil- 
ling to contend earnestly for the faith once 
delivered to the saints, always clad, ever 
watching and constantly ready and willing 
to fight the good fight of faith against the 
devil or any of his imps, at any time or 
place they may find them, even if they 
should be found sheltering in anOld School 
church. The Primitive Baptists resemble 
this Christian soldier most in their disci- 
pline and doctrine, theiefore are most my 

A circumstance has indeed occurred in 
one of the churches, that has for awhile (as I 
described in my first communication iu the 



Signs of the Times forced me baok again [ the objection created suspicion, &c. that 

r ii: _ *t I ■ I .1 • _ j._ ___ ii- . • i. . -\ -\r . i 

from the "relgious world into one corner, 
&. with wide-stretched e} es,moutb&ears, I 
have been noiicinglhepnssingscene, scarce- 
ly knowing what to do." But one fact I do 
know, namely, that sheep are more easily 
toled or lead than dro\e, which if too has- 
tily done is sure to scatter them; but may 
be toled by any thing that much resembles 
the food of their choice, tho' never so bane- 
ful in its nature. Leading seems to be the 
mode of the heavenly shepherd, who gent- 
ly leads the old and bears the lender lambs 
in his bosom; which though at present 
much divided and scattered, he will guide 
them and bring all their contusion into or- 
der, turn their darkness into light, and ul- 
timately inclose all his sheep in the fold of 
eternal deliverance. 

Hoping that we may be found wiihin 
that happy circumference, 1 bid you all fare- 
well for the present. 



Bibb county, Georgia, } 
Jan. 23rd, 184Q. $ 

Brethren Editors: Your pipers ate 
yet received with great satisfaction by tho 
Primitive Baptists; and I hope they will 
continue to be suppo'ted u^til they the 
papeis. are circulitf-d through the United 
States an I T( iriiories 

Dear brethren, when 1 read your letters 
Wrote oi the principles of faith and ordi r, 
y<m feel near to me; yon g'adden my heart, 
What a -ource of information, a channel 
thrpUgh which the dear children of God 
pan speak to each oihcr as though face to 
f) o, and whom 1 think I love for the truth's 

Brethren, for the present fare ye well. 


Sumter county, Alabama, 
\Qth'l)ec. LS39. ^ 
Dear Bkethken: Enclosed you have 
Minutes of two Associations, Union and 
Zion's U-st, of this region. You will 
discover the important article respecting 
missions. As an individual, I could have 
wished that it could have been more ex- 
pressive and pointed in opposition to the 
effort system. It was urged, that it should 
he more positive and determined, &.c. The 
laudable exertion failed, however— has not 

all is not right yet? Yours, tr+ily. 

P. S. I expect shortly to write you, 
repecting the noted Mr. yV********m, 
giving a more minute relation of priestcraft, 
&c. when I am more in the spirit of writing. ' 

A. K. 
Extract from the Constitution adopted 
by the Zionr<s Rest Primitive Baptist 
Convention and Association, convened 
at Bethany m. h. Patton Hill. Sumter 
county, Ala. from 14 to 17, inclusive, 
September, 1839. 

An. xvti. We will not receive any 
church, or correspondent member from 
any church or Association, into our union 
who believe in the benevolent institutions 
f dsely so calied, formed by the Missionary 

Extract from the Minutes of the third 
anniversary of the Pilgrim's Pest As- 
sociation ofoIdSchool United Baptists, 
held with the Pilgrim's Nest church, 
Pickens county. Alabama, commen- 
cing Friday preceding the first Lord's 
day in October, 1889, 


Dear Brethren: You will expect 
from us, as is common, a Circular Address 
and as such, we hav e thought proper to 
address you on the all important subject of 
the union of Cririsl and his church, 
without which, we cannot rightly under- 
stand the scriptures. And in order to bring 
this matter to view, we refer you to Gene- 

«'Male and female created he them, and 
blessed them, and called their name Adam, 
in the day when they were created;" thus 
were the twain created in one. When the 
Lord God had taken the rib out of the man 
of which he made the woman and brought 
her to Adam, he said : "This is now bone of 
my bone, and flesh of my flesh; she shall 
be called woman, because she was taken 
out of a man" The Apoaile Paul, bor- 
rows the same language from Moses, and 
says, this' is a great mystery I speak 
concerning Christ and his Church. And 
thus did the creation of God, most beauti- 
fully represent the union of Christ and his 

The next thing we will explain this di- 
vine Union bv, is the fall of man. and Jus 
offspring in him; this abounds with in'elh- 
gible figures of the Lamb, and his wife; 



the aposlle tells u', the man was not deceiv- 
er!, but the woman being deceived was the 
transgression: nevertheless, neither is the 
man without the woman, neither the woman 
without the man, in the Lord. Hence we 
concieve that Adam was not deceived in his 
own person; but by union with his spouse, 
her crime with all its curse and condemna- 
tion, fell on him; for without union, there 
can be no representation. The Apostle 
Says, the fust man; Adam, is a figure of 
him that was to come. In like manner, 
Christ the husband, was not deceived, but 
the Church, and from union to her, it was 
equitable for her curse and condemnation 
to fall on him. As it is said, he was made 
sin for us who knew no sin, that we might 
be made the righteousness of God in him. 
And as a further illustration of this subject, 
David says: 'In thy book, all my members 
were written;' which in continuance, were 
f.ishioned, when as yet there was none of 
them. The Prophet Jeremiah, holds forth 
this divine union, by calling Christ and his 
Church by one name. They are both call- 
ed the Lord our Righteousnes; and again 
this divine grace and union is represented 
by the similitnde of the human body; says 
an apostle, for as the body is 0';e, and hath 
many members, and all the members of 
that one body, being many, are one body, 
so also, is Christ's* and as he is said to be 
the head, over all things to his body, which 
is the Church, and as the Head is the pre- 
eminent member, it is cal ed the seat of 
wisdom. And through the head ihe bo- 
fly receives all its nourishment, fir>t in the 
head. In like manner, he is called the wis- 
dom of God, and power of God unto salva- 
tion and grace given us in Christ Jesus 
before the world began. We hear him say, 
'Behold I and the Children whom thou 
hast given me.' And again, he says: As 
1 and the Father are one.' So him and 
his children are one; for both he that sanc- 
tifieth and they who were sanctified, 
are all of one. And this Divine Union 
is held to view under the similitude 
of a vine, and its branches. I am the 
■vine, ye are the branches from me. Is thy 
fruit found? This brings us to the consoling 

And sing; Christ our head gone up on 

And we his body are, 

All our fears before him fly, 

And each distracting care. 

Though we, Satan's darts should feel, 

His power can never strike us dead, 

He may bruise us on the heel, 
But cannot reach our head. 

The nourishment of the body, is by uniori 
with the head from which all the body by 
joints and tends, having nourishment mi- 
nistered and knit together incrdascth with 
the increase of God. 

Dearly beloved, we are persuaded that 
evefy inspired pensman brings this matter 
to view. We might go on to prove this 
on almost every page in the Book of God, 
but, will close in the words of an Apostle, 
and say, I am persuaded that neither drath, 
nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor 
powers, nor things present, nor things to 
come, nor height, nor depth, nor any oth- 
er creation, shall be' able to scp'.rcteus 
from the love of God, which is in Christ 
Jesus our Lord. 

Dear Brethren, knowing that you were 
Bible readers, we have refrained from giv- 
ing you chapter and verse, nevertheless 
we have quoted the texts verbatim. There- 
fore, believing from the word of God, 
there exists such a bond of union in the 
mystical body of Christ. How desirable' 
and needful if is, then, should be that un- 
ion of sentiment, of faith and practice, that 
Communion may be sweet, and harmo- 
nize in glory and honor, to the great head 
of the Church. We commend you 
to God and the word of his Grace, 
who is able to keep you in one faith, and 
may the Grace of union cement you togeth- 
er in love, and give to you that union of 
feeling, that if one member suffer, all the 
members suffer with it. Peace be to you, 
Brethren, and love with faith, from God 
i he Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 
Grace be with all them, that love our Lord 
Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen. 


Georgia, Oglethorpe county, 
Jan. 5th, 1840. 
Dear brethren Editors: I take 
my pen in hand once more, to let you hear" 
some of the movements in this part of the 
world. You will learn, by subscribers 
declining to take the Primitive paper and 
such as profess to be Old School Baptists, 
that some will not rerdthem; and some say 
they have done more harm than they ever 
will do good. Certainly the time has come 
that men cannot bear sound doctrine, but 
will turn their ears from the truth unto fab- 
les- And I expect some of this class have 
sent a private letter to bro. Rorer, to quit 



Writing in the Primitive paper, and went 
on to condemn all the writers of the Prim- 
itive order; which has been a source of com- 
fort to my poor soul. But it seems we 
must divide the second time, as same that 
profess to be Old School Baptists, and 
have joined in resolutions of unfellowship 
With all new things, now have protested a- 
gainst them. And the first division was 
light compared With the second. 

1 will close by craving the prayers ofall 
that loVe our Lord Jesus Christ in slnceri* 
ty, and desire that God may direct all our 
Ways, so that all we say or do or write 
may be to his glory. Amen. Yours in 
hope of eternal life. THO. AMIS. 

Lenoir County, North Carolina, 
December 21, 1S39. 
Dear Brethren; I as an agent for 
your paper deem it necessary, as the year 
is nearly out, to Write you a few lines in 
order that arrangements may be made for 
the ensuing year; particularly as there are 
some alterations to be made. There is no 
one that has been a subscriber in this sec- 
lion the present year, that has any objec- 
tion to the paper; but from other cau-es 
there are two that decline taking it, and 
this section is so filled up with Ishmaelites, 
or Arminians, or work mongers, or at least 
those that oppose Old Baptist principles, 
that the vacancy would not be easy to fill — 
though there are many that call themselves 
Baptists, and say they are of the old order, 
but in my judgment actions show plainer 
than words, and by their fruit ye shall 
know them. Yours, respectfully, 


Georgia, Morgan county, ) 
Dec. \2th, 1S39. 5 
Dear brethren Editors: Though I 
am an entire stranger to you, I hope you 
will not think me officious in writing to 
you. God in his providence has favored 
me with the privilege of reading a few 
numbers of your very excellent paper, the 
Primitive Baptist, by which my soul is 
refreshed and comforted, my faith streng- 
thened, and my heart rejoiced, to find that 
the Lord has reserved to himself so many 
in these United States, who are not yield- 
ing to the institutions of men, but are con- 
tending earnestly for the faith of the gos- 
pel. And as 1 wish to encourage you in 
your good work, and hope thereby to com- 
fort and strengthen some of God's dear 
children, I enclose five dollars and hope 

you will send me six copies of the Priuii- 
tive Baptist. 

I am a poor, ignorant and unlearned 
man, yet I feel constrained to try to preach 
Jesus, and him crucified; I feel determined 
(God helping) to Wield the sword of the 
spirit as well as I can. I am no writer 
but I take the liberty to say to you, that 
the first disturbers of the Baptists in (his 
country are mostly passed on, and some of 
them are gone into more profitable business. 
These are succeeded by some nestlings 
from the fruitful nest hard by, (the Mercer 
University,) who though they run to the 
water like other water fowls, yet they have 
fell to squalling so loud and Constant for 
money and power, that the" poor creatures 
are almost in the agonies of death. 

Our go-betweens are doing theJPrimi- 
tive cause great injury at this time, yet 
these very good men do Hot preach what 
they profess to believe, (but Arminianisrrl 
in all its corruptions.) And their folly 
begins to be manifest, and if they do not 
change the articles of their faith, or go to 
preaching them as they are, they too will 
soon kill themselves. 

Two small churches only in this county 
stand on Primitive ground, and the storm is 
beating on them vehemently; but, thank 
God, they are not yet destroyed. I learn 
one of the largest churches in the County \i 
expected to burst shortly, that the Lord 
may speedily deliver his people. 

I am your affectionate but unworthy 
brother in Christ. 


Georgia, Thomas County, 
Dec. 29, 1839. 

Dear Brethren; While I am wri 
ting for my neighbors, that they may read 
your paper, 1 am reminded of a promise 
I made in September last, thinking our 
brethren at a distance wished to hear how 
the Ocklocknee Association gets along with 
the missionary intruders. 

This will inform enquiring brethren, that 
she stands her hand tolerably well as yet. 
Our last session resolved, not. tocorrespond 
with Associations that favor the modern in- 
stitutions of the day. And I would further 
add, that the Arminians of Georgia have 
not been successful in the .Legislature with 
their Temperance Bill, as they call it. But 
I call it anti-temperance, as the drinking 
people would have had to buy by the bushel, 
as one writer has said bsfore now. I think 
the missionaries are somewhat in the 



dumps, seeing their entering wedge has 
jumped out. # 

And I wonder they do not look round, to 
see if the Old School folks are troubling ihe 
Legislature with petitions. Methinks 
they would not find us there, as we do not 
want our religion established by law; for 
our constitution grants us all the liberties 
we could wish for. Wonder what the — ites 
will go at next. Though I expect they 
will be making some grave explanations in 
order to moderate its appearance, as the 
pope and cardinals did in the days of Luth- 
er. And if these head-leading fellows had 
Luther to deal with, their pictures would 
be drawn with fox's tails to them. So I 
subscribe myself an advocate for the faith 
of the gospel. PRIOR LE WIS. 

Russell county, Alabama, ? 
January 23, 1840. $ 
Dear brethren Editohs: I have 
been for some time favored with the hap- 
py privilege of occasionally falling in with 
my good brethren who take the paper call- 
eel the Primitive Baptist; and find it to 
speak the language that I thin k 1 love, and 
that is truth, and also the good news it 
brings from I think God's dear children in 
various parts of the earth. I think they 
speak the language Shibboleth, they talk a- 
bout the good old way that was planned 
out in wisdom from all eternity. 1 think 
they bleat like master's sheep, and I think 
they like the Lord's voice belter than the 
missionary Arminian stranger's voice. As 
I love to hear from these kind of people, 
and love to read truth, let me I pray be a 
subscriber. So as it is late, and my candle 
is low, I most bid you farewell. 


Early county, Georgia, 
13 January, 1840. 
Dear Editors: 1 think the Primitive 
has been the means of doing good in this 
Section. Mars Hill church was constitu- 
ted on the Primitive order, twelve months 
past, on eight members; it seems that the 
Lord has blessed it since with twelve by ex- 
perience, and four by letter, in all twenty- 
four. May the Lord's work prosper, is 
the prayer of yours, with due respect. 


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North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Williamston, 
R. M. G. Moore, Germanton. W. w, Mizel) , Ply- 

mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washington, James Sou j 
therland, Warrenton. Alfred Partin, Raleigh. 
Charles Mason, Roxboro\ James Wilder, An- 
demon's Store, Benj. Bymim, Speight's Bridge. H. 
A vera, Averasboro' . Parham Packet, Richlands. 
Ji H. Keneday, Chalk Level. B. Temple, Wake co. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Wmi H. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, Smithfie\d. 
James H.Sasser, Waynesboro* '. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B'i Bennett, Heathville. Alfred El- 
lis, Strabanc, Cor's Canaday, Cravensvi/lc. Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creek, J. Lamb, Camden 
C. H. A, 13. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C.T.Saw- 
yer, PoweWs Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 
kerson, "VI est Point. Isaac Alderman, Moore's 

South Carolina. — Wm. Hardy, Saluda Ylill, 
James Hembree, Sen. Anderson C. H. (Jharles 
Carter, Cambridge. B, Lawrence, Effingham,- 
James Burris, Sen. Bold Spring. William S. 
Shaw, Bock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackvil/e. An- 
drew Westmoreland, Cashvi/le. James .L Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Branch. Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers, Crowsville, Marshal Mc- 
Graw, Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cook- 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDonough. John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P, M. Cal- 
houn, Knoxville. R. Reese, Mafonlon. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patrrian, Lexington. Jona- 
than Neel, James Hoi lings worth and Stephen 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bowdoin,.<?/«/m>///f. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatoie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. John Ga.yden, Franklin. P. 
H. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, Thom- 
aston. William Bowden, Union Valley. Ezra YIc- 
Crary, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. G. W. Holifield, Vernon. B. Pace, Van 
Wert. L. Peacock, Cassvil \e. Vachal D.Whatley, 
Barnesville, Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, 
Mount Morne. Elias O. Hawthorn, Bainbridge, 
J. G. Wintringham, Halloca. William Mi 
Amos, Greenville. Randolph Arnold, Lati- 
mer's Store. Thomas J. Bazemore, Clinton. 
Jo si ah Stovall, Aquilla. G. P.Cannon, CuModen- 
ville. Jason Grier, Indian Springs. William 
McElvy, Alfapulgus. Furna Ivey, Milled geville. 
William Garrett, Cotton River, Jesse Moore, 
George Herndon and John Hardie, tr- 
unnion. Leonard Pratt, Whitesville. Ed- 
ward Jones, Decatur. Thomas J. Johnson, New- 
nan. Israel Hendon, Shilo. Robert B. Mann, 
Chesnut Grove. Wm.Tippit, Cedar Branch. A.G. 
Simmons, Hickory Grove, John Lawhon, Che- 
nuba. John Herington, Welborn's Mills, 
James P. Ellis, Pineville, French Haggard, 
Athens. Henry Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Valley. Josiah Gresham, White Wall. Daniel 
O'iVeel, Foivlton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro'i 
J.B.Morgan &.BiPiRouse,i<Vt(;«a'.s7i^, Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fair P lay. John Wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hoolemville. R> S. Hainrick, Carroll/on. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, Blakely, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
j Tarveraville, John Stroud, Kendall. James Scar- 



Iiorough, Sfateshorongpi Young T. Standifer, | 
Mulberry Grovir Robert R. Thompson, Centrt-\ 
wile. Young Ti Standifer, Mulbetry Grove. Ja- 
red Johnson, Troupeitte, Kindred Braswell, 
J)uncansville. Edmund Si Chambloss, Stalling^ 
Start. James w, Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, Joiinstonvi\)e. David Rowell, Jr. Groo- 
rersviNe. Joel Colley, Gbuingtbn, W. w. Pool, 

Ai.abvma. — L.TL Mosefey, Cahattibai A. Kea- 
tcffi, McConico. John Blaokstone. La Fayette. VV. 
w. Carlisle, Fredauia.. Henry Dance, Danie'l's 
Prairie. Win. w. Walker, Liberty mil. Dnn'i 
Gafford, Greenville: Samuel Moore, Snow III 1 . 
John G. Walker, 3 fit on . Henry Williams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel day, Motent Hebron, .fnfpes 
Daniel. Claibornri Ellas Daniel, Church Hill, 
John Bonds, Ch'nfon, David Johnston, Leigh/on. 
Adam Me* 'reary , BrooMyni Josiah Joriesv Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market: Sherrod w. 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, 
William Tallev. Mount Moriah, Graddy Her. 
linof, C/tti/ton. G.W.Jeter, Pint Lain. Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Ph.asant Grove. William Orutcher, 
IlitnlyviUe. William II, Cook, Pickensfyille. 
Seaborn Hamriek. P/anlersrille. William Mel- 
ton, BluJI Port. James Si Morgan, Dayloa. Wm. 
Hyde, Gainesville*, Rtifus Daniel, Jameston, An- 
derson \v, RuHard, Tusgegee. Frederick Hines- 
Gitsioiii Z. Johns, Tiara, Eli McDonald, Pains: 
viile. A; Mitchell, Carter's Hill. William Pow- 
ell, YoungsviUe. James Hay, Waeooca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville. David Treadwell 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory. Sam'l T.Owen, 
Argus, Joseph H .Holloway, \ltz\e Green. Lulie 
R. Simmons, Troy. Jesse Lee, Farmer smile, 
William S. Armstrong 1 , Louitvi'le. Mark Porter, 
J)emopolis, Henry Adams, Mount Willing. Joel 
H. Chambless, Lowsville. Elliot Thomas, Wil- 
liamston. F.'Pickett, CJtina Gravet James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M Pearson, DndeviWe. W. 
J. Sorelle, Wetumpka, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville,. Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis- 
Cox, Soukeehafchie. James Searcy, Trwinfon. 
Hazael LiUlefield,./<7rk.vo/i7.7lle. John w. Pellum, 
Franklin, Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D> Cooper, Wi\- 
]iam>fon. John Harrell, Missouri. James K> 
Jacks. Elito'i. Henry Hilliard, BeWville: John I 
A. Miller, Oakfushee. Durham Kelly, Alexan- ' 
dria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Athens, William 
Thomas, Pro'pect Ridge. 

Tennessee. — A. V". Farmer, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
chael mirklialter, Cheeksville, Tho's K. Clingan, 
Smith'sr^, Roads. W. E. Pope, Philadelphia. Aaron 
Compton, Somerville. Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, Meesville. James 
Maulden, Van Buren. A. Burroughs, Wesley. Wm. 
Croom, Jackson. Daniel Briggs, Decatur. Clerr- 
Tnons Sanders, Mount Vernon. Daniel Webb, 
Lexington. Sion Bass, Three Forks, John w. 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough, Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Sevirrm'lle. 
Ira E. Douthit, Lynchburg, C.T. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Medon. Levi Kirkland and George 
Turner, Waverly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysville, Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
M Roads. J, Cooper, Unionvillc. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. JaSi II. Holloway, Hazel 

Green. William McBee, Old Town Creek, Eon' 
jam in w. HtWget+Cherryvil/r, 

Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Springs. 
Thns. H ol land , Dnilvi'le. Worsham Man n Columbus'. 
Henry Petty, Zian, Wm. Hiid<lIe?ion, Thomastoni 
Nathan Tims, Kosciusko, Jonathan D.Cain, Wa- 
tr-ford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 
Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris, 
lViiccMng. Simpson Parks, Lockhart's Slorei 
Marl; Prewett, Aberdeen, Wm. Ririgq, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Ijomsmill.e. Edin'd Beemari 
and THomas H. Dixon, Macon'. John Erwin, 
Lin\iho''nc, Herhert D. Beckham, Ponio/or, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and Micajahi 
Crenshaw, Marion. Win. Warren, Dekalb, C. 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. 

Florida. — James Alderman and P, Blount," 
China HUl. David Callaway, Cherry Lake. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, Marburyvi/le. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro'. Uriah Stevens, 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View, 
James Marshall, Salem. Thoihas w. Marling 
East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac \v, Denman, Gallafiu, 

Ohio. — Joseph II. Flint, Philanthropy. John' 
B. Moses, Gerrnanton, 

Kentucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. 

Virginia.— Kemuel C. Gilbert, Sydnorsville. 
Rudolph Rorer, Berger's Store. John Clark, Fre- 
dericksburg. Wm w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Bums, Halifax C, II, George w. Nanford, 1 
llirn'sonbuig. Jesse Lankford, Bowers's, Eli- 
jah Hansbrough, SomerviWe. Wilson Davenport,- 
White House. 

Dis. Columbia. — Gilbert Beebe, Alexandria. 

Pennsylvania.— Hezokiah West. South Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum 'Tree. Nathan Everitt, 
Chi/licoa/s Town. 

Wisconsin Ter.— M. w. Darnall, Blue River. 


James Barron, $3 

James Daniel, 5 

A. B. Bains, Jr. 1 

James S. Battle, 1 
James J. Dickson, 1 

S. I. Chandler, 4 

Wm. R. Long;, 1 

Cors. Canaday, 10 

Thott. H. Turner, $ I 
.las. Hembree, Sr. 7 
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F. Ivev, 5 

M.D. Holsonhake,2 
Edward Jones, 5 
James Alderman, 6 

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Madison county, Ma 
Dec. nth, 1839. 
Brethren Editors: I send youa few 
lines, after the perusal of the same you can 
use your pleasure respecting its going in 
your paper. And as you are acquainted 
with the difficulties that heretofore exist- 
ed between us and the missionaries, I deem 

disciples of Chrrst have ever rendered hirri; 
Then we learn, and tint from divine au- 
thority, that it is the implantation of grace 
in the heart, and that by the spirit of God, 
that enables the creature to thin!;, speak, 
or act aright. We have this plainly 
brought to view in Paul; before his con- 
version, his thoughts, his words, and acts, 
stand as an index of his heart; and after 
the light shone around, and tiie scales left 
his eyes, his conduct stands as incontesti- 
ble truth, to prove the -great change of 
heart that he had felt. And well may 

it unnecessary to go over them again; and : Paul say, it is not of him that willeth, or 
would only say, that notwithstanding the 'of him that runneth, but of God that shew- 
cold and unfruitful state of Zion in this eth mercy. And not only Paul, but in all 
country, yet since ihe division has taken ' the old saints both of the Old and New 
place, the brethren that remain on origin- 1 Testament, we see this holy and divine 
al ground appear to be united in love. | principle of sovereign grace; in the bosom 
When we meet together^ we seem truly : of Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, &c. And 
as a band moving the same way. I admit with this principle do we see Hebrews 
there are some few that appear rather to traverse the furnace; and this is that motive 
be halting beween two opinionsj but I do : that moved the sons of Zebedee to leave 
not conceive them to occupy Primitive j their father in the ship and follow Jesus in 
ground. When our preachers meet to- the way. And if Stephen would have 
gether, the doctrine in the general seems ; forsaken this doctrine of divine grace, the 
not only to be the old sound thai I heard , Jews would not have stoned him. John 
upwards of twenty years ago in Norlh Ca-j might have escaped the islcof Patmos, would 
rolina, but it appears to be the good old i he have given up the doctrine of unmeri- 
bell which the flock have followed forages, ted grace. 

for centuries, yea, from the apostolic age! Now, dear brethren, with these faith- 
to the present time; that is, the doctrine of; ful men before me, and a great many more 
sovereign grace and practical godliness. '• that might be named, contending for the 
And as I wish to give some of the reasons doctrine of a divine and overruling provi- 
why I cannot be a missionary, I will offer j dence in matters of religion, notwithstand- 
Ihisasthe first. ling it might cost them their lives, their 

It does appear to me, that if the Baptists \ fortunes and all that was near and dear to 
were all to embrace the mission system, them of a temporal nature; yet with un- 

that they would not only lay down, but 
would put their feet on that precious, yea, 
and glorious doctrine of grace, which is 
dearer to the Christian than life, for out of 
grace springs all the obedience that the 

daunted courage they stand firm on the 
rock and proclaim to man the character and 
purpose of God. 

A word first on the character of Jehovah. 
And have we learned that he is almighty 



in power, and united in wisdom, unchange- 
able in mind? In short, his perfections nre 
such that he cannot err. Second, His pur 
poses — and I must acknowledge I have of- 
ten been surprised to hear men give the 
character of God, and that in accordance 
with the word, and at the same time deny 
his purposes, or make them conditional; 
which would in the end make him no 
more than man, & not so much; for there is 
not a man on earth, of any business of any 
kind, who is not a man of purpose; there is 
no lady in the world, that even sees to any 
matters, but is a predestinarian. See her 
take the needle and linen in hand to work 
any figure, look at the same when done, 
and if the lady understands her business it 
is just such a figure as she before determined 
it should be. 

And here I would say, it argues weak- 
ness in any person to predetermine any 
thing shall be so, when the) 7 at the same 
lime know they have not power to effect 
the same; if weakness in mortals, what else 
in God Almighty to purpose or predeter- 
mine the salvation of the world, and he at 
the same time knew a great many would be 
lost. 1 ask, what will become of his design? 
J do not worship a disappointed God. No, 
says the missionary, neither do I. Ah! 

what do you mean? Is God Almighty, af- 
ter giving up his Son to live, -die, and rise 
from the grave and ascend to heaven, 
thereto intercede, for sinners; after all this 
is disappointed for the want of a few dol- 
tars. 1 said a while ago, one reason whv I 
could not be a missionary was, I hat the sys- 
tem was against the doctrine of grace; and 
surely a system that is so dependent on man 
for help, is not only a stranger to grace, 
but does deny the character of God Al- 
mighty. For Paul tells us, 2 Tim. ch. 
1. v. 9th: Who hath saved us and called us 
with a holy calling, not Recording to our 
Works, but according to his own purpose 
and grace, which was given us in Christ 
Jesus- before the world began. Now ac- 
cording to the mission system, all the labors 
of God to effect this design is vain, unless 
poor imperfect man gives money to com- 
plete the matter. 

But perhaps you missionaries %vill sav, 
that Paul here meant himself and Timothy 
only. Well, we will read again. Eph. 1. 
11: In whom also we have obtained an 
inheritance, being predestinated according 
to the purpose of him who worketh all 
things after the counsel of his own will. 
Come now, here is a church of believers 
addressed, and here are two things brought 

well, come, in the spirit of meekness let us to view: 1 st, the character of the predi sti 
try your system only a little. You tell nator; 2d, those included in the predestina- 
us it was the intention of God in the gift of! tion. Paul says, he works all things after 
his Son, to save the human race on condi- the counsel of his own will; you, according 
tions that they repent and believe; you ad- to your system say, if man will die in 
mit there are numbers who die in rebellion matter all will be right; but if man fails to 
against the government of him. Now if it do his part, the predestination falls to the 
was his purpose they should be saved and j ground, the purpose is frustrated, and the 
they are lost, is he not frustrated? But ' individuals in place of possessing the ap- 
you will say, they failed to comply with pointed inheritance, land in the regions of 
the condition. Yes, and that like a great! night, 
many other conditions caused the disap-j This makes me think of a people whom 

pointment with the other part; for in all 
conditions a failure in the one disappoints 
the other. But again, you tell us thai not- 
withstanding it is the pleasure of God to 
save the world, yet man cannot be saved 
unless he hears the sound of the gospel 
vocal. You at the same time agree with 
me, numbers have died with hearing it; 
how is it, did the Lord commission men to 
go there and preach and they failed to go, 
and for the lack of that did the power of the 
Lord fail to save them, and yet not disap- 

But again I hear it said, that there are 
souls now in hell that might have been in 
heaven, if the people would have given 
th»ir money more liberally. Missionary, 

Moses speaks of in the 32 ch. and SI 
ver. of Dcuf. : For their rock is not as our 
rock, even our enemies themselves being 
judges. Now the rock of Israel was Christ, 
but Israel had enemies; they also had a 
rock, but it was not Christ, and as their 
rock was different, of course their govern- 
ment, their doctrine, their worship was dif- 
ferent; & one of the greatest troubles Israel 
met with, was the false prophets that often 
led from the plain sin. pie worship of their 
rock. For the leaders of this people cau- 
sed them to err, and they ihat are led of 
them are destroyed. Isaiah, 9th ch. 16th 
ver. But notwithstanding a number of Is- 
rael did run after false prophets, there were 
at all times a remnant that remained firm on 



their rock, and their enemies then as now. 
said every thing about them, only that 
they were righteous, [to be continued.) 


Georgia, Lowndes county, > 
December 21, 1839. S 

Dkak brethren: I have got hold of 
some papers called the Primitive Baptist, 
and I must confess that I am greatly attach- 
ed to them: and the reason why, 1 think 
the troth is found in them. For ever since 
1 have obtained a hope, I think 1 love the 
trbth, let it be found in what region it may. 
For 1 learn, that the law was given through 
Moses, but righteousness and truth came 
by Jc<Us Christ. 

1 desire in a few words to show my opin- 
ion, and the reason why I cannot believe 
in the institutions of the clay, so called; 
the reason is this, I think they divide from 
the command of our Lard Jesus Christ. 
For he says: Freely ye have received, free- 
ly give. Therefore) when we the crea- 
tures of a moment, are so blest as to have 
received the gift of the Holy Ghost, we 
should have no desire to make merchan- 
dise of it. I believe that a true servant of 
the Lord possesses that gift, too high for 
silver, or gold, or pottage, to purchase it. 
Notice, Peter was tempted by Simon the 
sorcerer, but what was the result? Thy mo- 
ney perish with thee. Elisha was tempted 
by Naaman, to sell his Lord's gift; but 
Elisha said, as the Lord liveth, before whom 
I stand, I will receive none, 2nd Kings, 5 
ch. 16 vs. 

Hut I perceive that this our day is a day 
of high things, for it seems like that peo- 
ple in our day cannot be satisfied with the 
command of Christ, to believe and be saved; 
but they must look deeper into it — as the 
men of Beth-shemesh, when they looked in- 
to the Ark of the Lord, and were slain. 1st 
Samuel, 6. 19. The Lord made an example 
of these men, seeing that they looked into 
the holy place without suitable s.mcti- 
fication. J think the high class in this our 
day are like Naaman; to wash and be clean 
was too trifling and easy a thing for such a 
Lord as he to observe; so he turned off with 
wrath. Just so are the high missionaries, 
they cannot believe in our Lord Jesus 
Christ for full justification, but must stretch 
out their puny arm and call for gold and 
silver to help the Lord carry on his work, 

like Uzza did when the oxen stumbled. 
Chron. 13 and 9. 

The prophet said: And it shall come 
to pass. But I think it is come to pass, 
that every one that is left in their house, 
shall come and crouch to him for a piece of 
silver and a morsel of bread; and shall say, 
put me I pray thee into one of the priests 
offices, that 1 may eat a piece of bread. 1st 
Samuel, 2nd and 36. 1 think if a piece 
of bread was all that could be had for preach- 
ing, there would he but few missionary 
preachers. In ourSaviour's lime of suffering 
here, there were many followers; but what 
was it for?- was it for his sake, or for the 
sike of the loaves. He says, it was for the 
sake of the loaves, and they were filled. 

1 can but say to the Primitive brethren, 
may the Lord be with them, that they may 
always be found endeavoring to keep the 
unity of the spirit in the bonds of peace. 
I take the liberty of subscribing myself 
your unworthy friend. 



Alabama, Pickens county, > 
January, 1840. \ 

Brethren Editors: Inasmuch as it 
is expedient for persons who wish to contin- 
ue taking the Primitive Baptist to make it 
known; therefore I would say for what 
some of us believe to be the true causeofthe 
Redeemer, and the love and communion 
that exists between Christ and his people, of 
that worthy paper, the Primitive Baptist, 
if publication be continued, ihat men 
through various circumstances and changes 
can communicate relative to the great wel- 
fare of the church; which bespeaks in 
strong terms that there is a people whose 
soul delights to serve God from a principle of 
love, & not from slavish fear; a principle in 
which poor unworthy me does believe, if 
a believer at all. Holy writ holds surfi 
belief to be good; and not to believe a form 
of godliness and fair show makes sure 
the soul's salvation, with a name of being- 
benevolent worshippcrsof God, doing grea* 
things by means of mon'ted institutions, ir» 
setting free the captive soul in which we 
are said to have no part. 

Can it be possible, that God created man 
and left his destiny to the control of bis 
fellow man? No, no, never. 1 would as- 
cribe to God more power, wisdom and, 
justice, than to try to hold good any such 
doctrine. It is inconsistent. The course 



that seems to be pursued by some of the 
Arminian Baptists must certainly be des- 
tructive in a great measure, to both soul and 
body. May the Lord cause such destruc- 
tion to flee away and be gone forever, is a 
desire of my soul. The Lord's will, will 
be done in defiance of men or devils. 
May the Lord sever light and darkness, 
and cause Zion to shine forth as a great 
citj set on a bill, the light of whose fame 
cannot be hid. May the Lord cause us all to 
see and understand aright. 



Pittsylvania county, Virginia, 1 
Oct. ISth, 183.9. S 

Dear brethren Editors: 1 will offer 
an apology to a missionary Baptist, who 
attacked me not long since. I do not 
know his name, or I would tell it; but he 
will know my apology is to him, and I 
hope he will accept it. 

Now I will say to my missionist, that 
he attacked me on the subject of receiving 
hire for preaching; and to prove it was 
right to hire to preach, he said Paul recei- 
ved wages — which I disputed and said, I 
did not believe it was so. But I soon 
found it was so, and I will say to him, he 
was right and I was wrong; for Paul did 
say what he said he did, but it was an er- 
ror in my head and not in my heart. And 
I will say to him, that he erred as much 
when he wanted to prove by the dictiona- 
ry what Paul meant by wages, as I did 
when I thought Paul did not say he recei- 
ved wages. And more too, for if you are 
right with your dictionary meaning, then 
you will not only prove Paul a hireling, 
but prove him a robber; and a robber 
means one that will or does take that that 
does not belong to him, or take that which 
does belong to another without leave. So 
you, sir, have made Paul out a rogue, 
which I do not believe an honest Bapiist 
will wish to do. 

Now, sir, you have not only made Paul 
a hireling with your dictionary, but a rogue 
and a robber; which I do not believe. 
And I am sorry that a Baptist will sloop so 
low, as to go to the dictionary to prove 
their doctrine; for there is the place that 
the baby sprinklers go to prove their 
sprinkling. If the dictionary will do for 
to prove your doctrine, it will do to prove 
sprinkling; so I hope you will not object 
te sprinkling, but I hope you will quit the j 

dictionary as a witness for you, or cpiit the 
Baptists; for the dictionary will prove 
sprinkling to be baptism. I here will say 
to you, sir, if your witness is not good for 
sprinkling, I say you should not think him 
good to prove Paul a hireling, So if you 
can prove Paul to be a hireling. I can prove 
him to be a mean mara, as I will prove all 
hirelings are. 

See John, the I Oth ch. Ilth verse, Jesus 
says: I am the good shepherd; the good 
shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 
Here, my friends, you see the good shep- 
herd will give his life for the sheep. Now 
we will see what Jesus says about the hire- 
ling. See the same ch. 12 verse, says: 
But he that is an hireling, and not the shep- 
herd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth 
the wolf coming, and leaveih the sheep, 
and fleeth; and the wolf catcheth them, 
and scatterelh the sheep. 13th veise: 
The hireling ftceth, because he is a hire- 
ing, and careth not for the sheep. So the 
hireling is mean, and I have proved it bv 
the word of eternal truth. And here I will 
!say, that I do not think any one but a sneak 
in religion, will take the dictionary to 
prove Paul a hireling. 

No, brethren, 1 do not; but I will say 
(to my friend missionist, that I think the 
; better way to find out what Paul meant by 
; wages, inlhellih ch. of 2nd Corinthians, 
j8 verse, is lo see the references, and then 
we can get the scripture meaning of Paul, 
: which he gave himself. And 1 think he 
knew as well what he meant by wages, as 
.any one else. So I shall now show from 
scripture what Paul did mean. See 2 Cor. 
Sch. 5 verse: In stripes, in imprisonments, 
in tumults, in labors, in watchings, in fas- 
tings. Here my brethren, it does appear 
that Paul did mean by wages his stripes, &c. 
I will give you a few moreof Paul's exores- 
sions. See Philippians, 4 ch. 15 verse: 
Now ye Philippians know also, that in the 
i beginning of the go?pel when I departed 
(from Macedonia, no church communicated 
| with me, as concerning giving and reeeiv- 
jing; but ye only. Here you see, sir, Paul 
means giving, and not hire; as your dic- 
tionaiy says. So Paul was not a hireling, 
like you missionists; no, he was not. See I 
Thes. 2 ch. D veise: Because we would not 
be chargeable unto any of you. And here 
you see, sir, Paul would not be chargeable 
to any, so he was not a hireling, as you said 
he was. And I am sorry a Bapiist would 
disgrace Paul as much as you sneaks do, by 
trying to prove him a hireling; but you 



cannot. But I will give you one more of 
Paul's expressions. See 2 Thes. 3 ch. 8 
verse: Neither did we eat any man's bread 
for nought, but wrought with labor and 
travail night and day, that we might not 
be chargeable to an}' of you. 

Now, sir, I have proved that the apostle 
did preach the gospel without charge. So 
you, sir, ore wrong, and all of you are 
wrong, when you leave the scripture and 
go to the dictionary to prove that Paul was 
a hireling. But there is one thing I know, 
and that is, that some of us are wrong, and 
I believe from the scripture it must be you 
beggars for money; and say, may the Lord 
turn you and ycru shall be turned. I have 
not said any thing with the intention to 
offend any, and hope it will not. May the 
Lord bless the truth, be it where it may. 
Brethren, as ever your brother in the Re- 
deemer of sinners. R. RORER. 


Chesnut Grove, Upson co. Ga 
December (he 21st, 1839. 

Dear brethren and Editohs: Grace 
be to you and peace from God the Father 
and our Lord Jesus Christ, who gave him- 
self for our sins, that he might deliver us 
from this present evil world, according to 
the will of God and our Father, to whom 
be glory forever and ever. Amen. 

1 have thought that I would not give you 
any more of my sciibbiing for publication, 
but as I have to change some of the names 
of those that wish to read your valuable pa- 
per, the Primitive Baptist, and as there 
was a Minute of the Columbus Association 
handed to me, 1 have tho't proper to let my 
brethren abroad know a few things contain- 
ed therein. 

Resolved, That any member of our body 
who may be present at any session of the 
Associations with which we correspond, may 
be authorised to represent us in said bodies, 
&c. Deeply impressed with a sense of the 
importance of a more enlightened ministry 
in our bounds and throughout ihe State, 
and believing that the Churches are de- 
ficient in their duty in hunting out and 
encouraging, and in affording the means 
of mental improvement to such gifts as may 
be in our bounds, therefore. 

Resolved, That we direct the attention of 
the churches composing this body to 
this subject. We recommend that they 
exercise a careful vigilance in searching 
out such gifts as may be in their body, 

and give them that encouragement, and af- 
ford them that aid, which may be ne- 
cessary to enable them the better to dis- 
charge the important duties of the ministry. 

Resolved unanimously, That we ap- 
prove of the design of brother VV. H. 
Stokes of Washington, Ga. to publish the 
Southern Baptist Preacher, a monthly peri- 
odical, to consist ofsermons from living 
ministers of our order, price one dollar per 
year. Neal & Forbes, of Talbotton, receive 

Resolved, That the general purpose fund 
be appropriated to the domestic mission, 

And goes on further down and says, that 
they want them to adopt measures to raise 
funds for the support of foreign missions, 
and place those funds in the hands of the 
treasurer, &c. It is too tedious to give 
you all contained in this Minute. 

Now, my readers, you can see from what 
is above, that a man may give his money 
for one purpose and it is put to another; 
and if they had stated that this money was 
for the support of men who are too lazy to 
work for their bread and what they have 
to wear as I do, I think they would come 
nearer hitting the nail on the head, &c. 

Report of the executive committee — it is 
too tedious forme to give you all of the pro- 
ceedings of the committee appointed. G. 
W. Key &. George Granberry to ride as mis- 
sionaries, and appointed them their field 
of labor. Granberry travelled 8 days, rode 
126 miles, preached 6 sermons, attended 
4 other meetings, with bro. Key; for which 
the committee paid him ten dollars. Bro. 
Key accepted the appointment, and has 
rendered 151 days service, baptised 38 per- 
sons, rode 1412 miles, preached 139 times, 
assisted in one constitution and in the or- 
dination of one deacon; for which the com- 
mittee paid him 200 dollars. The 
committee has also paid G. B. Wal- 
drop $41,25 for 33 days' service render- 
ed in the year 183S. Your committee 
would return devout thanks to God for 
the success which has attended your mis- 
sionary operations in its infancy, and en- 
courage them all to come up more fully to 
Ihe support of those operations. And 
say, they hav to mourn the absence of some 
of their churches in sending up their contri- 
butions, &c. 

Now we will hear Paul a while, and 
see if these will agree with him. Paul 
an apostle, not of man, neither by 
man, but by Jesus Christ and God 



the Father, who raised him from the 
dead: For I neither received it of man 
neither was I taught it, but bv the revela- 
tion of Jesus Christ; but when it pleased 
God, who separated me from my mother's 
womb, and called me by his grace to re- 
veal his Son in me, that I might preach 
him among the heathen; immediately I 
conferred not with ilesh and blood, neither 
went 1 up to Jerusalem to them which 
were apostles before me. Galitians, the 
first chapter. Listen, isles, unto me; 
and hearken ye people from far; the Lord 
hath culled me from the womb; from the 
bowels of my mother hath he made men- 
tion of my name. Isa. 49. 1. Before I 
formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and 
before thou earnest forth out of the womb 
I sanctified thee; and I ordained thee a 
prophet unto the nations. Then said I, 
ah, Lord God, behold I cannot speak, for 
I am a child; but the Lord said unto me, 
say not I nm a child, for thou shalt go to all 
that I shall send thee; and whatsoever I 
command thee thou shalt speak. And 
the Lord said unto me, behold I have put 
my words in thy mouth. Jeremiah, 1. 5, 
6, 7. 

] might bring forth a great many more 
passages of scripture, to prove that thev are 
not following the command of our Lord 
and Saviour J'esus Christ; but my sheet is 
closely writen and i* full. Now may that 
God wboseethand knoweth all things, may 
he ever keep us in the bonds of love and 
ever willing toobserve all things whatsoever 
he has written for us to do; with ance sin 
gle to the glory of God and the welfare of 
our immortal souls, ismv prayer. Amen. 
'll. B. AMNN. 

JIUibuma, Piltc county,} 
January 8th, 1840. 5 

Beak brethren IiaJIT.obs: I have once 
more taken my pen in hmd, to write a lew 
lines for the Primitive Baptist. Your be- 
loved paper is rva'd by many in this section 
of couniry with great satisfaction, and 
-despised and persecuted by others, es- 
pecially such as cannot endure sound doc- 

I wish to inform my brethren, who live 
at a distance, that the Baptist denomination 
is somewhat divided id this section of 
country; though a considerable majority -of 
the old order of Baptists, (I mean Primi- 
tive or Predestinariaij Baptists) at the 
last session of the Conecuh fti'tr Associa- 
tion, which was in October last, til',' Associ- 

ation split on the missionary question ; six- 
teen churches adopted the non-fellowship 
resolution with all the institutions of the 
day as they now exist among us: believ- 
iug such to he unscriptual — and eight 
churches withdrew from the Association. 

Dear brethren, the doctrine of free will 
ability, as brought in by the missionaries, 
with other corresponding doctrines, has 
produced great distress in some churches; 
even to the separation of parents and child- 
ren, all in consequence of unsound doctrine. 
For this is a doctrine that the faithful can- 
not receive, for all who have been taught 
by the divine spirit, do know that salva- 
tion is of the Lord, and is a free gift; but we 
have some who are called Baptists in this 
country Hint deny the doctrine of eternal 
and personal election, and pronounce it a 
dangerous doctrine; anil these are the men 
that have caused division and distress in 
the churches and there are numbers crying, 
la here, & lo there; but Jesus says, believe 
them not. There are also some who say 
j they believe the doctrine of election, hut 
j say, it is too unpopular to preach it; 
, and the man who does preach it is not likely 
j to do much good nor stand popular in the 

Now, dear brethren, the word of truth 

declares, if any man will be the fiiendof 

the world he is the enemy of God. So, 

brethren, if we preach to please men, we 

shall offend God. But we are taught in 

the word of eternal truth, that Christ and 

the apostles did preach this doctrine, and 

the Saviour himself preached it to the 

; rrultitude; and some of his disci pl< s weie 

. offended and said, it is a hard saying, who 

[can hear it? And many of them went 

j hack, & walked no more with him. And the 

i reason is plainly taught in the same chap- 

j ter, for they did not follow Jesus because 

j they loved him, but because they did 

eat of the loaves and were filled; and the 

I reason why men do object to this doctiino 

is, because its principles are not recorded in 

| their hearts; for all thy children shall le 

taughlof the Lord and great shall be (heir 

j peace. 

So, dear brethren, we see they were of- 
fended at the truth; and if we as ministers 
of the go>pel preach the same doctrine, 
we may expect to he rejected by the ene- 
mies of truth. But, dear brethren in the 
ministry, let none of these things more 
us; let us take the Bible and preach the 
doctrine therein contained, regardless of 
what may be said by man. Lut us also 



«ndeavor to live the life we preach to oth- 
ers, that the weapons of our warfare may 
prove mighty through God even to the 
pulling down of strongholds, that we bear 
not the sword in vain; but as ministers of 
the meek and lowly Jesus let us keep our- 
selves as much a* possible unspotted from 
the world, and be ensamples to the 

Now, denr brethren, this appears to be 
a day of trial to the church; as such, let 
us be engaged with God at a throne of 
grace for the prosperity of Zion; inasmuch 
as we claim the title of Primitive Baptists, 
let us live as such, or at least endeavor to do 
so, and prove to the world we are the peo- 
ple we profess to be, and walk worthy of 
our high calling and profession; hoping 
we are the children of light, let us try to 
walk as such. And, dear brethren, one 
and all, endeavor to keep up a strict gor.pel 
discipline, and keep the house of the Lord 
clean, and there offer our prayers and offer- 
ings that God may bless us in due time in 
his own appointed way. For they that wait 
upon the Lord shall renew their strength. 
Therefore, brethren, we have even reason 
to believe that Jesus Christ will be with 
his people; and I can say in truth, my heart 
rejoiceswhen I see so many contending for 
the faith onee delivered to the saints, as 
appears in the Primitive Baptist, in al- 
most every direction. So 1 discover God 
has his servants even in the worst of times, 
and there appears to be a remnanteven now 
at this present time also according to the 
election of grace. Therefore, if the Lord be 
God, follow him; & altho' we may be few in 
number let us be valiant for truth, for I go 
more for quality than quantity, for God will 
accomplish all his divine purposes in the sal- 
vation of his church; & when he wants more 
ministers he will send them. Therefore, 
let us take theSaviour's direction, and pray 
the Lord of the harvest that he would 
send forth laborers into his harvest, and 
when those laborers come, they will preach 
the truth. For I believe all Christ's min- 
isters will in substance preach the same 
doctrine, for they are taught in the school of 
Christ and by his spirit, therefore they 
preach by the divine influence of the Holy 

Brethren, pray for me a poor unworthy 
servant; for I am hated and persecuted foi 
oppo>ing the errors of the times, and those 
institutions that are supporting unscriptural 
doctrines; which if not prevented by prov- 
idence will uhinutely bring us under bon- 

dage. And then brethren, we that preach 
the doctrine of Christ, may expect to suf- 
fer for it. May God be with us all. A- 
Yours, in Christian love. 




North Carolina, Wayne county, 
Feb'y 10, 1S40. 
Dear brethren Editors: It ap- 
pears that people are getting to be ve- 
ry hard and stiff necked and rebellious, 
as the apostle said in his day, and think 
more of self and self-interest, than they do 
of their latter end, or of the religion of our 
Lord Jesus Christ. 

May the Lord bless you, and at last save 
you in his kingdom, is my prayer for Christ's 
sake. Farewell, for the present. 


Marion county, Tennessee, > 
December 17, 183.0. $ 

Brethren Editors: I should have 
written sooner, but I have been waiting 
for brother Easterly to write; but he hav- 
iug failed, I now sit down to redeem my 

Brethren, I have been comforted often 
times by reading the letters of different 
brethren, and often I am made to rejoice 
with them that rejoice, and to mourn with 
them that mourn ; and feel it to be our duty 
to confess our faults to eaeh other, and "to 
bear each other's burdens, and so fulfil the 
law of Christ." Brethren, I know not 
how it is with you, but 1 will tell you how 
it is with me: I am a little partial, so much 
that I sometimes when I get hold of the 
Primitive, 1 run over it to see if I can find 
a brother's name with uhom I am acquain- 
ted; and when I do, I then expect to hear 
about somebody else that I once knew. 
For this I sometimes blame myself, and 
think 1 ought to love all my brethren alike. 

I will now tell you what a fix I got into, 
at the remembrance of this text: "By this 
you shall know that you have passed from 
death to life, because you love the breth- 
ren." At first I thought I loved the bre- 
thren, but on an examination, 1 found 
there were some I did not love, and some 
I only liked, and some I loved; therefore 
I concluded that I was partial, and of 
course had not passed from dea'h to life, 
and wanted the church to exclude me. 1 
was so distressed about it, I could not wail 
till church meeting, and I told tr ' f, »"liDgl 



to some old brethren, in whom I had con- 
fidence, (and these were of (hem that I 
]oved; and they unravelled the riddle for 
me, by asking me a few questions, such 
ns these: Those that you love, are they nol 
those that seem to walk like Christians 
ought to walk; and those that you only 
like, are they not such as at the meeling 
house, or places where Christians are, act 
like Christians, and at other places they 
could not be distinguished from men of the 
world? These and such like questions satis- 
fied my mind, and then I began to learn 
that Christians were not perfect, and they 
are full of infirmities, and subject to catch 
the spirit of the world. 

But, brethren, we should remember the 
admonition of the apostle, it is still need- 
ful "to crucify the old man with his deeds." 
But, brethren, we ought to act at home and 
abroad, at the Court House and at the mee- 
ting house"" like Christians. But some- 
times I gain fellowship with a brother by 
his telling me he has done wrong, and there- 
by has wounded the cause of God; for I be 
lieve they that are "dead to sin cannot 
live in sin," and when they are overtaken 
in a fault they cannot conceal it, hut must 
tell the first brother that he has confidence 
in of it. When a brother thus acts, it es- 
tablishes me to believe he is a Christian. 
And in this way we strengthen each other 
and comfort each other. 

And now, brethren, as you would likelv 
wish to hear about the Baptists in this coun- 
try, I must confess wc arc a poor, despised, 
unpopular set; not many of us, and what 
there are, barren and unfruitful. Yet a- 
mong ourselves there is "peace and not con- 
fusion;" for the missionaries with all their 
skill and inventions, have not affected one 
as 1 know of lately; though they are riding 
through our valley and the world and Ar- 
minians are flocking after them; yet nobo- 
dy joins them about here, though they 
frequently open the door of their church, 
so 1 am told, when there are no members 
present but the preacher. I heard of 
their getting some members at their Asso- 
ciation in Bledsoe county, last fall; and 
some of them were schismatics, who pre- 
sented letters; but they would not- have their 
letters but received their baptism, though it 
was performed by schismatic preachers. 

The above information I have from wor- 
thy brethren, in whom I have the utmost 
confidence. Still they say they are the old 
Baptists, but if this is old Baptist custom I 
never knew them, and I think i have 

been aquainted with the old Baptists for 
40 years, and never knew them receive 
the office work only, when it was per- 
formed by a Baptist and he tin fellowship. 
I must leave them. 1 am yours as ever. 




North Carolina, Wake county, 
January 1S/A, 1S40. 

Deat( brethren: Through the mercy 
of God I am permitted to again cast in 
my mite amongst you, I hope with an eyo 
single to the glory of God and the good of 
God's children. I will here cite j - ou to 
the 12 chapter of 2 Cor. 15 verse: And I 
will very gladly spend and be spent for 
you, though the more abundantly 1 love 
you the less 1 be loved. 

Brethren, your epistles thatappear in the 
Primitive, I receive them as originating 
from love in you to God and his cause. 
There are some of you that prefer soft com- 
munications, while others prefer harder. 
1 will just say that I am not choice about 
it, so you keep in the bounds of truth: For 
I understand there are diversities of gifts, 
but all from the same spirit to the edifying 
of the body; as you know that both crust 
and crumb belong to the bread. 

You arc aw.ire that the apostle in the 
above chapter charges the chureh at Cor. 
of guile; and in the preceding chapter it 
appears, that in his absence there were 
false apostles that had made some inroads 
in that church, which perhaps were money- 
hunters, as Paul reminded them when he was 
with them and wanted, he was chargeable 
to no man, in order I hut he might cut off 
occasion from them that desire occasion; 
not but th it he had right or power, &c. I 
will here say, that plain, pointed gospel 
preaching, is to me a great evidence of a 
preacher's love to and sincerity for the 
church of -God; which he purchased with 
his own blood, in such there is no d.iub- 
bing with untempered morlar. And in ma- 
ny churches, no doubt, are some nominal 
professors, that do not endure sound doc- 
trine; and the more plain the pre ichor 
preaches, the less the nominal professor 
loves him, and is heard to say, 1 should 
like the old brother better, if he was qoUsq 



harsh; — while at the same time such 

f>Eph. 1.4, 5: Acrordiri"; ?s he has chosen 

u'atexi us unto the adoption of children by 
Jesus Christ to himself, according to the 

reasoning, to set at variance the church or 
a part thereof against their preacher, by iva- 

preaching flows from the best of motives, jus in him before the foundation of the 
that the church should be rooted, settled (world, that we should be holy and without 
and grounded in t he faith; that their hearts blame before him in love; having predesti- 
should be prepared to discover those laise 
apostles and deceitful workers, that often 

make inroads upon the sympathies fe carnal good pleasure of his will. Again: Fur we 

are bound to give thanks to God always 
for you, brethren, because God hath from 
gon of whom the way of truth is evil sou [.the beginning chosen you unto salvation, 
Ken oi. 

And 0, brethren, what other language 
is more appropriate to the feelings of the 
preacher, than that-adopted by Paul: The 
more 1 love, the less I be loved. He knows 
lhathehas had no sinister views that led 
him lo preach; he knows that he has endea- 
vored to discharge his duly to Go I and his 
church; and notwithstanding this, there are 
men of your ownselves shall arise, speak- 
ing perverse things to draw away disciples 
after them. And these dissatisfied profes- 
sors are apt to be inviting the Arminian 
money-hunters to come and preach for 
them, for they are tired of their old preach- 
er: for say they, it is the same old tale, 
and 1 want somehing else. Hut what are 
the principal objections? why, this is an en- 
lightened day, and 1 had rather have one to 
suit the times; and he once in a while is 
banging the missionary, and not only this, 
but he preaches the doctrine of election too 
st ong; at least I think it a dangerous doc- 
trine, and it ought not to be preached. 

Brethren, wherever you come across 
such a professor as desetrbed above, you 
may watch him. As for the doctrine of 
election, brethren, it is a soul-cheering 
doctrine to the one that is led by the spirit 
of God; lie does not fall out or dislike his 
preacher for preaching it; contrary wise, he 
loves him, and it is only the professor that 
likes less for the truth's being preached. 
Election is seen in our national govern- 
ment, that there shall be so many members 
to sit in Congress and no more; even so in 
our States; and that others elect them, and 
not themselves. So when we turn our 
attention to the church's constitution, giv- 
en of God on the principles of grace, we 

&c. A hundred others, had I room. The 
circumstance of Abraham charging his ser- 
vant of what people to take a wile for I- 
saac; the circumstance of Joseph's instruc- 
tion, received from an angel: Fear not to 
take unto thee Mary thy wife — whereas 
Joseph had not. taken her to wife, &c. But 
here let me put on the cap-stone: For the 
children, being not yet born, neither hav- 
ing done any good or evil, that the pur- 
pose of God according to election might 
stand; not of works, but of him that call- 
eth. So you see such love not the truth, 
nor those that, do and preach it. So I can- 
not say, thai such carnal professor loves Je- 
S'is, for says he: 1 am the way, the truth, 
and the life. So you see they neither re- 
ceive Christ, nor him 1 hat sent him; and 
shall they love his servants? So 1 will say 
to those that preach Christ of love, if ve 
were of the world, the world would love 
his own; thru you are persecuted for righ- 
tousness sake, but remember great is your 
reward in heaven. 

But thvre is another objection to the 
faithful preacher of God, that he preaches 
discouraging lo sinners, in saying that ail 
that was given lo Christ shall come to him, 
and that the Holy Ghost does not strive 
equally alike with all mankind; but that it 
applied the blood of Christ-only lo those 
that were given in Christ Jesus before !he 
world begin. For ihis (he servant of God is 
loved less,tho' he preaches it of-lov-e and not 
of ill will, when he has so many thus saith 
the Lord for it. As I have not room lo refer 
you to many texts, I will just refer you to a 
few: Son of man, these dry bones are the 
whole house of Isra I, and they shall live. 2 
Sam. 7. 23,34: And what one nation in the 

find that they (the church) were saved and j earth is like thy people, even like Lrael, 
called with an holy calling; not according j whom God went lo le.eem for a people to 
lo our works, but according lo his own : himself, and to make him a name, and to 
purpose and grare, which was given us in j do lor you great things and leriib!e,for thy 
Christ Jesus before the world began. Again, | land, before thy people which thou red.eo- 
see Peter: Who verily was fureordained I edsl-to thee from Egypt, from the nations & 
before the foundation of- the world, but j their gods? For thou hast confirmed to ihy- 
vvas manifested in these last times for you; j se ^ thy people Israel to be a people unto 
{who?) whobutthemthatdo believe in God, thee forever: and thou, Lord, art become 



their God. Mat. 10.6: But go rather to 
the lost sheep of the house of Israel. A- 
gain, other sheep I have, which are not of 
this fold; them also I must bring, that there 
shall be one fold and one shepherd. Ajjain, 
1 will search them out in the dark & cloud)' 
day, &c. Thy people shall he a willing 
people in the day of thy power. 

So you see all Israel shall be saved with 
an everlasting salvation'. Hut on the other 
Hand it is said: generation of vipers, who 
hah warned you to flee from the wrath to 
cone? Think not to say, ye have Abra- 
ham to your father, for God is able to raise 
up of these stones children unto Abraham. 
Ye are as lively stones, &c. Thus you see 
that the children of the bondwoman shall 
not be heir \\ ith the free, and it always frets 
them to hear it preached. And the ser- 
vant of God loves to preach ii out of love 
to God and his people, though the Ishmael- 
lites muck ami love less. 

Now let us reaso i toj;eth"r: Suppose 
through the redemption of Jesus Christ, 
divine justice wis satisfied with all man- 
kind; mtist not justice change before it could 

thou reproaches) us also. 

Let us, dear-brethren, look at the weak- 
ness of such doctrine. They say that 
Christ is willing to save all mankind, is 
wooing and beseeching, offering mercy to 
all, working with all, and some will not 
yield, and at last go to hell. Brethren, 
do not such doctrines say, that the Lord 
«;ave to sinners (us there is no power but of 
God more power than he reserved to him- 
self; or in other words, to the devil and sin- 
ners combined. But you will see that 
this is not thetrulh, for his people shall ho 
a willing people, and t tie hour is coming 
and now is, when the dead shall hear the 
v.iice of the Son of God, and they that hear 
shall live. For it is God thai worketh in 
you both to will and to do of his y;ood pleas- 
ure; and it is not of him that vvilleth, nor 
of him that runneth, but of God that shew- 
eih mercy. And Paul said, that he was 
persuaded that where he bath begun a good 
work that he was able to perform it. A- 
gain, shall he bring to the birth, and not 


The truth is, brethren, that God's 

have claim again on the sinner to the | preachers preach that sinners are dead in 
casting him on the left hand? But what says j trespasses and in sins; and they have ears 
the word: I am the Lord, I change not; J and cannot hear; have eyes, but cannot 
therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consum- see; have hearts, but cannot understand; 
ed; (hot sons of Esau but Jacob ) To such ! and that it takes nothing short of that povv- 
I say, whose names were not written in er that raised Lazarus from the dead, to 
the Lamb's bonk of life, slain from the give hearing, sight, ondet standing, spir-ilu- 
fo nidation of the world, they all wonder i ally. He, (the. preacher of Cod.) tells the 
alter the beast, and hate the truth and diem j people, that the Lord openeth the eyes of 
that preach it. And litis is one great, dis- j the blind, the Lord raiseth up them that are 
tinguishing mirk whereby yon may bowed down; and that, except the Lord 
know them; ye do always resist the truth, build the city the workmen labor but in 
as your fathers did, so do ye. And this vain; and except the Lord keep the city 
lost quoted text leads me to consider one the watchman waketh but in vain: yet these 
idea: they hold that the spirit does strive pharisees will resist thetrulh of it, and 
alike with all men, whilst some yield to I hate the preacher of it, and that too by 

it and work with and are saved, whilst 
others resist the striving of the spirit and 
are lost. 

No \ can any candid man say, that the 
Holy Ghost had ever applied the blood of 
Jesus to those characters that the Lord 
said, ye do alw iys resist ihe truth? but is it 
not as clear as two and three make five, 
that those who hold such doctrine as the 
sinner has the power to resist the work of 
the spirit and drive it from them, are the 
characters addressed by the Lord every 
where, and in every country, and all dis- 
pensations of the world? And they are as 
sure to take exceptions to the truth of the gos- 
pel plan of salvation by grace alone, as ihe 
lawyers weie to the Lord, in thus saying. 

some that he has under his own care, and 
endeavor to enrage the world of non-pro- 
fessors against the gospel preacher, and be- 
gin to electioneer with other churches 
against the srospel truth, and to intermarry 
with inventions of men, the daughters of 
Mystery, Babylon, and kick up a great dust 
as was around the golden calf; blow up a 
great whirlwind, which sweeps up with it. 
straw, leaves, stubble, hay, gold and silver. 
And a great revival (so called) increasing 
ihe church's numbers, until the church is 
overrun with corrupt members, causing 
divisions; & at length see the old orthodox 
preacher compelled to leave, or build up a- 
^ain of such materials as are sound. And 
he goes, he remembers all his fa- 



tigues, toils, and labors of love, and adopts 
in his mind thejanguage of one of old who 
s.iid: Am I therefore become your enemy, 
because I lell you the (ruth? 

But, brethren, I know that I am excee- 
ding the usual length of your correspon- 
dence; but as 1 took up li? tie or no ro >m in 
the last volume of the Primitive Baptist, 
I hope you will fat-give my error and 
bear with me, while 1 turn myalten'iou a 
little to the unchristian conduct of some 
preachers, who say th y are God's preach- 
ers and are not; of course, are wolves in 
sheep's clothing. They are said to creep 
into houses to lead captive silly women, &c. 
There are some that in the attempt tog t in 
with the church, will submit to I ruths of the 
gospel and preach it considerable; appear 
beautiful too, en^ro-is mightily the affec- 
tion's of 'moat of the brethren, until a fair 
opportunity offers, and then he seems to 
possess rather a growing anxiety oi? ihir^l for 
popularity; touching but slightly those 
points of doctrine that ate most unpopular; 
leaching that although it isscripture it is 
not very profitable; endeavoring to stenl 
off by degrees the watchfulness and spirit 
of the church, to contend for the faith once 
delivered to the saints. lie then begins to 
invite to the church craftsmen of like occu- 
pation, telling the church that if you do 
not like the missionary schemes of the day 
say nothing about it; if it is of God, we 
cannot overturn it, and if it is of men, ii 
will come to nought; and ne ought not to 
be found to fii,ht agunH G >d. And when 
he can do no better, he will endeavor to 
get the church to consent to do nothing for 
nor agunsl; so soften it up, and with good 
words and fair speeches deceive the hearts 
of the simple; and thereby bring in dam- 
nable heresies. They then show to a child 
of grace who they are, heady, high-minded, 
lovers of pleasures mure than lovers of 
God, or his church; consequently begin to 
lord it over God's heritage. Sometimes 
by sending ten dollars^ more or less up to 
the convention; and made up of a few in- 
dividuals, but delivered in the name of the 
church or Association. Then comes in 
division, and strife, and loss of confidence 
in the preacher; then poor (yet rich) dis 
tressed Christian, what is your condition? 
why, says one, 1 was em i rely deceived in 
the man; I once thought so high of him, 1 
did not think he possibly could bo an im- 
postor. Another says, i never felt entirely 
clear about the man; but you seemed to 
think so much of him, I tried to think per- 

haps the fault was in me. Thus division 
rages, and if it is likely that a majority is 
against the false doctrines and traditions 
of men, the corrupt part are apt to crave a 
postponement, either from one church 
meeting, or from one Association to another. 
B it, dear brethren, I have had about 
twenty year-* experience upon this subject, 
and one thing in it is. that whenever the 
monev-hunters begged indulgence, in or- 
der to try to bring about a reconciliation, 
(is they sav) they hue ever used the time 
electioneering lo carry their point, right or 
wrong. As such, brethren, I give it as my 
advice, th it there is nothing to be gained by 
procrastinating with them; for it only gives 
them an opportunity of engrossing the 
strongest helps they can get on their side, 
from other churches or Associations. And' 
let it terminate when it may. there will be 
sorrow; so that the feelings of some of the 
brethren may eoi respond with Psalms, 55. 
12,13, 14: For it was not an enemy that 
reproached me; then 1 could have borne it: 
neither was it he that hated me that did 
magnify himself against me; then 1 would 
have hid myself from him: But it was 
thou a man mine equal, my guide, and 
mine acquaintance. We took sweet coun- 
sel together, and walked unto the house 
of God in company. Mow t-hall two walk 
together, except they be agreed. So I add 
no more. Priv for me. brethren. Farewell. 

Columbus, Ga. 22 January, Ifi 10. 

Brethren Kditors: 1 have read your 
paper. for the last year, and wish you to 
continue it through the present. Though 
\our paper is evil spoken of, I thank God 
that he put it in the minds of his people to 
erect such a channel ef communication. 
We have but few churches of the Old 
School Baptisis in this vicinity, though 
"what v. e hive seem to be in perfect peace 
one with another. I am an unworthy 
member of Mount Marian church, si:ua- 
ted six miles north of Columbus, where I 
should be happy to see our preaching breth- 
ren, as there are but few in this section of 

I am, brethren, yours in hope of eternal 
life, which God promised before the world 



Alabama, Russell county, ) 
February lo//<,lS 10. $" 
Dear brethren Editors: 1 again take 
my pen to give you a few lines, iho' weak 



and feeble, and with lameness of pen and 
language. Yet I cannot forbear, though it 
has kept me b.ick for some time, and I 
now trust the strong will bear with the 
weak. So I will come it. rough at a ven- 
ture. I have just returned from visit- 
ing my brother in the the flesh and 
I hope in the Lord, I found him a wisher 
to becomea reader of the Primitive paper. 
So I wish you to send him your paper the 
Primitive, as I want him to see how the 
Old Baptis's talk all over the United States, 
or from different parts. What is it that 
often gives me strength? It is the doctrine 
of truth, and the experience of my breth- 
ren. So 1 think it is a little like the man- 
na, and the language of Caleb and Joshua 
to the children of Israel; the manna was 
given from God to feed them, so the truth 
to the spiritual children; and the language 
of Caleb and Joshua, in what they had ex- 
perienced) so the children of God have 
and are yet speaking one to another about 
the promised inheritance. 

So farewell, as I begin to swell with 
matter, so that my leaf would run over. 
So no more. JAMES J. DiCKSON. 

Fairfield Dlst. S. C. > 

January 30, 1840, \ 

Dear Brethren: 1 am not a man of 

compliments, but 1 must, say, the Primitive 

Baptist is doing wonders here. The few 

churches and lay individuals of the Old 

School here, have hitherto been as sheep | and not having' the fear of God before our 

eyes, as they seemed to think, presumed to 

emerging from a state of thraldom and 
bondage that we have been under for six 
years, or more. But the seeds of dissent ion 
were sown even earlier, that is, farther back 
than that. 

In August, 1831, the clergy appointed 
a campmeeting in our immediate neighbor- 
hood and near to our meetinghouse; and 
made it a meeting for receiving and bap- 
tizing persons, not into the church but 
into the world, or baptising them and turn- 
ing them loose again into the world expect- 
ing the churches to receive these baptized 
individuals, simply an the ground that t! ey 
had baptized them. But the government of 
the campmeeting not being accordingto our 
old form, but being in the hands of a trium- 
virate, or select few of the preachers, we 
did not think proper to give up the keys 
with which Christ rjfid entrusted us; but 
had the subject of their baptism to come 
under some examination before the church 
ere we would receive them into our church, 
which gave some offence. This rule we 
adhered to for the sake of the principle that 
it was the church's prerogative and duty to 
do so. 

Well some few years afterwards we had 
to deal with disorderly members, and for 
the credit of religion to disown fellowship 
with them. Then what do they do, but 
look up to the preachers and to the Asso- 
ciation to reinstate them into the church? 
And now h'aviug wickedly and devilishly, 

without a shepherd, the Old School preach- 

ers having been n unpen 

hampered, and standing 
in fear in a manner, of the dominant or 
rifling party. Bui the circulation of a few 
numbers of that paper, has reminded me 
very much of what is said of Saint Paul, 
when he saw the brethren that came to 
meet him as far as Appii-forum and the 
Three Taverns, viz: th it he thanked God 
and took courage, Acts, xxviii 15. Church- 
es can do nothing in such trying times as 
the present, without pastors. But now 
some of our 'Old School preachers are de- 
claring their n-m fellowship with the un- 
scriptural and human inventions of the day. 
for making Christians and building up 
churches: and the dark cloud that has hung 
over us for some years, seems to be now 
measurably dispelling; at least, we are 
looking forward for better times. 

1 presume none of you ever heard of such 
usurpations of authority by the clergy, 
and by an Association, as has taken place 

exercise discipline, what do the New 
School clergy do, but procure a hull of 
exclusion to be issued against us by the 
Association, or as Mr. Debner Duncan 
said in his preaching to us, (we bringing 
forth only thorns and briers,) took in their 
fence, so as to leave us outside of their 
pale or tyrannical dominion! Then through 
a man-pleasing spirit, perhaps,at least to sat- 
isfy all parties, if possible, we took in an 
excluded member; and having called min- 
isterial helps, we took him under dealings 
again; which after going through a regular 
trial, issued in his exclusien again. 

Yet what does the Association do but ap- 
pointarommitleeto go outside of her bounds 
or outside of her fence, to use Mr. Duncan's 
comparison, clothed with power to give 
letters to our excommunicated members, 
or constitute our church anew. 

To say nothing of the Association ex- 
pressly disclaiming, in her constitution and 

in this couniry. And we are now just rules of decorum, in common with all 



Baptist Associations, all authority and rule 
over the churches, and even that hrr juris 
diction extends in any wise over the church- 
es, is there nol the most palpable inconsist- 
ency in the Association withdrawing 
her fellowship from us and immediately re- 
appointing a committee to visit us clothed 
with power to give letters "to those entitl- 
ed," as she expresses it in her Minutes, 
"or constitute a new church?" The thing 
is without a parallel; nor c;m such an item 
be found in the annals of any other Baptist. 
Association, as to be found in tlvoae of the 
Bethel; and all through the influence of the 
missionists or revival preachers. 

Brethren, we arc fast approximating to 
popery, & the present dereliction will sure- 
ly eventuate in the setting up an image of 
the beast, and the enactment of a law that 
no man may buy orseil, that is give or re- 
ceive religious instructions, save he that 
has the mark. or the name of the b^ast, or 
the number of his name. Rev. xiii. 17.1 
In fact if our information he correct, it has 
almost come to that already. For it is 
said, that the brother, who is, in a manner j 
at the head of the institutions of the day, 
being sick at the time of ihe Association's' 
meeting, wrote on to the Association to 
lay us under an interdict, and disallow the 
clej'gy to minister to us in holy things, that 
is neither to preach nor administer the 
ordinances at Ararat church, until we re-; 
pent and give satisfaction. 

In the first formation of Baptist Associa-j 
tions, they were composed of the churches. ! 
The churches had a prior existence. And j 
that the denomination might have; Christian: j 
intercourseone with another,they sentdele- i 
gates to certain places where they minuted j 
an account of each others slate; but with- • 
out the least intention to infringe on j 
each others rights and privileges as se-l 
parate and independent churches. But' 
now instead of the churches forming As- j 
sociations, the thing has turned round so' 
as to work the other way, viz: for the As- j 
sociation, by her missionaries, to form 
churches. Then when this is done, these 
churches will belong to the Association, 
having been gathered together and consti- 
tuted by the Association's missionaries. 
And what are we to look for but that the 
Association will rule these churches with 
an iron rod? As the Associations were 
composed of the churches, there is the most 
palpable inconsistency in the Association's 
sending out missionaries to make churches. 
It is a course directly tending to enslave the 

churches, and bring them under the tyran- 
nical reslrainl a of their Associations. 

It was not until after the Bethel Baptist 
Association had existed above forty-six 
years, that the thing began to work the 
other way ,.viz: for the Association to make 
churches in this way. At her forty-seventh 
anniversary meeting, the Bethel Asso- 
ciation minuted such an item as this: 

Resolved, that this Association do appoint 
two missionaries to labor each, 3 months in 
the year within the bounds and borders of 
the Association, with the monthly com- 
pensation of forty dollars per month; and 
we advise that the different churches turn 
their attention to this very important work, 
ami send up their contributions to this body 
at their next meeting to compensate such 

'•Elected Elders Ambrose Ray and E- 
praim Kant, in compliance with the above 

If we would just read the first part of 
the above resolution, viz: that the Associa- 
tion had appointed two missionaries with 
the rti&n.thfy. compensation of forty dollars 
per month, and stopped at that, we would 
have supposed that the Association had 
funds on hand, which she meant to expend 
in that manner. But no, she sends them 
out (not on her own expenses) &. prescribes 
what is to be their '•'■monthly''' salary 
'■'■per ?}ionth" (to express it in her ownawk* 
ward language,) viz: forty dollars, and 
who is to make up this amount lor them, 
viz: the churches. They are to go into the 
most destitute places within the bounds and 
borders of the Association, and there hold 
protracted meetings, getup great revivals of 
religion, or rather of church-joining, and : 
constitute churches, which are to be con- 
nected with the Association. Thus she will 
extend her bounds and enlarge her borders 
and become a great body.: and this is all her 
own doings, except that the little matter of 
making up the forty dollars per month 
happens to fall on the churches. There 
are expenses attending this revival-meet- 
ing work, but she beats no bob in that— that 
she prescribes fur the churches to do. 

Well, when she gets churches, thus for- 
med, connected with her, whose churches,, 
pray, will they be? Why the Associa- 
tion's. She may say she sent out her mis- 
sionaries, they constituted the churches; and 
now to whom do they owe their existence, 
and their obedience and submission, but to- 



Thus, dear brethren, matters are work- 
ing among us or in our seclion. 

I could mention my personal gratifica- 
tion, in reading t he Primitive, but ibis I 
presume you will all take for granted, that 
is, that it revives our drooping spirits, li 
almost raised the dead to life. At least, ii 
fetches dormant powers into action ajnoug 
us, But (he missionisis pretend to hold it 
in contempt, as might be expected. 

The Ararat chilreh has twenty members. 
who all seem to stand firm in the faith of 
the Primitive Baptists. Bill Clod only 
knows whelhor our number will increas.e 
or dwindle away. With him are all fu 
litre events, and with him is the residue of 
the spirit. This we know very well, lhai 
the strength and stability at" a church do 
hot depend on the numb r of her member* 
in a timeof real and severe trial; but o,n their 
being of the right stamp, such as will go 
to death in the good causa, such as do not 
join for popularity's sake or to be on the big 
side, but arc willing to be of the despised 
few for Christ's sake & the gospel's. With 
my sincerest desire for your well being and 
spiritual prosperity, 1 subscribe myself, 
dear brethren, vdurs in go-pel bonds. 


Lawrence county, Mississippi, } 
January 12M, 1S40. $ 
Dearly beloved Brethren: 1 have 
taken ray pen in hand for the first time, to 
let you know thai I for one have been a sub 
scri'ber for the Primitive nearly one year 
and am much pleased with the doctrine ad- 
vanced by the brethren. 

Nothing* mydear brethren, hut a conscious* 
ness of the obligation that 1 feel myself un- 
der to yon & to the all-wise Creator, would 
cause me in my weakness to write in the 
Primitive^ where there are so many able 
writers; only 1 feel it my duty to do so, and 
in dischargeof this duty, my dear brethren, 
let (Tie say to yon, that in reading from bre- 
thren scattered over these United Stales, it 
has caused me to meditate upm-the great 
goodness of God. and to view myself as 
one of his creatures that, would complain 
of his si'ualion in the providence of God. 
But by the power of 'God and his spirit to 
help, I f j el determined to be reconciled to 
my situation in providence. And, dear 
breilnen, while those communications from 
yon have been consoling to me, let me say 
to you, that about nine or ten years ago that 
burthen rolled off my mind, that caused 
me to mourn from day to day. In this situ- 

ation I moved on for some time. I3ut at 
length driven by my conscience, I was com- 
pelled to tnlk to the church and (Tie church 
received me. I then got on tolerably we'll. 
until about two years ago our Association 
divided. I then fell into the new Asso- 
ciation. ! then fel.t myself in a bad situa- 
tion. I really complained as did old Eli- 
jah When he fell himself .done: Surely my 
c ase is the worst of all. But right here I 
got hold of the Primitive, and t could hear 
aid feel that I was not alone by myself, 
bit that there was a ho^t of thostj complain- 
ersas I tho'i myself lo be. I could now see 
that my situation was not the Worst, or even 
is bid as s>me of the brethren tha' have 
written. 1 now give my best respects to 
the brethren, for the consolation that their 
writings have given me through the Prim- 
hive and say to them, that I hare called 
for a letter from iho church that I belong 
lo, and intend to return & go with you: not 
that I haVe changed my sentiments or be- 
lief, but that I was unfortunately through 
our representatives drawn off. 

Deir brethren, we are scarce of Primi- 
tive preaching brethren in this settlement} 
and the beneVolency or missionary party 
preach such stuff Id me generally, that it 
appears to ine that a predestihar'ian must or 
would die if he were to eat it. ?s T ow, my 
dear brethren, the sincere mill; of the word 
is that, that feeds the little lambs or dear 
children uf God: and I have thought that 
it must be very rich food, and surely it is, 
for if We Call to mind our experience, we 
View the littleness of ourselves and how 
prone we are to do that Which we ought 
not to do. Yel the grace of God springs 
up in the hearts of his dear children, and 
(hey a'e made to rejoice in God their Sa- 
viour for his loving kindness to them. 

0,my dear brethren, when 1 think of my 
situation, or compare it with it my past life, 
1 am made to rejoice and ftel like 1 Want 
to tell, something of the dealings of my 
mind When under conviction'* 1 believe 
at. about the age of sixteen years, under the 
preaching of the gospel, 1 was made !o see 
ami feel my situation as a lost sinner, if not 
sived by God. 1 then went lo work, and 
my first was, to break off those woibt 
crimes lor they mostly appeared to face me. 
As I would break off, there would be less 
ones would rise before me as mountains. 
It was my lot lo pass on in this situation 
for about fourteen years. During this pe- 
riod of time, 1 shifted my residence several 
times, and the greatest dread on my mind 



was, 1 feafcd I would not get to 
soil of preaching that suited my taste: 
and it lias been a subject that I have- 
often thought of and cannot tell the caus? 
of preaching distressing the sinner's 
mind, yet at the same time lie loves to 
bear it. This was my situation, and many 
limes 1 almost despaired of ever witnessing 
any change that 1 could trust in. I said 1 
almost despaired, some would say that they 
did; 1 for one would say, that every child 
of God the very moment he is slain on ac- 
count of sin begins to live to God; and had 
it not been for a remembrance of things 
past, 1 would have desp tired, it appears to 
me under conviction. Thus during this time 
1 resorted to every means to get relieved of 
this distress of mind. And I made so 
many vows to mv God and broke them, 
that I became ashamed of myself, and sei 
the last resolution tint 1 would not say 
what I would do, but endeavor to do as lit- 
tle harm as possible. One thing is a little 
astonishirg to me, to hear those professing a 
hope say, they believe all can come, when 
Jesus says, none can come except, the father 
draw him. Brethren* my experience a- 
grees with the language of the apostle: for 
it is by grace thiough faith, and that not of 
yourselves; it is the gilt of God. 

Dear brethren, if 1 should never write 
to you again, do not think my love has 
grown cold toward you; for if not changed 
again by God, 1 believe I shall a Primitive 
die, and I hope go to rest. Dear brethren 
of the Primitive order, farewell for awhile. 


] am the Proprietor of and intend pub- 
lishing in the course of this year, the fol- 
lowing work, viz: William Huntington 
upon Universal Charity, pursued and taken 
by Mr. Zeal for God. Examined before 
Mr. Gospel Experience, the magistrate; 
found guiity and delivered up to Mr. Elec- 
tion, the jailor; then bro't before Mr. Dis- 
cerning of Spirits, the deputy judge — there- 
tried and condemned. Togeiher with let- 
ters on Ministerial Ahiliiy's detecting er- 
ror, and some comments on dark passages of 

Also, the naked Bow of God, or a visible 
display of the judgments of God on the ene- 
mies of truth. The last will and testament 
of William Huntington, a servant of Christ, 
and of the church for his sake. Also, a 
preface to his will. 


Bear Creek, Ga. Feb. 5th, 1S40. 



North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Will, 'amston, 
ft. M. G. Moore, German/on. W. vv. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob's wind ell, Washington, James Sou* 
therland, IVarren/on. A! Creel Partin, Raleigh. 
Charles Mason, Roxbord 1 '. James Wilder, An* 
demon's Store. Benj.Bynum, Speight's Bridge. II . 
\vera, Averasbovo' . Parham Pricket, Richlands. 
J, ' 1. Keneday, Chalk Level. B.Tem >le, Wake co. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leal(sville, Who H. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, Smithfield. 
James H.Sasser, Waynesboro*. John Fruit,' San* 
dfi Creek, L. B. Bennett, Healhmlle. Alfred El- 
li9, Strabane, Cor's Oanaday, Cravensmlle, WH- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creek, J. Lamb, Camden 
C. II. A. B. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C, T« Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 
kerson, West Point. Isane Alderman, Moore's Creekt 
South Carolina.— Wm. Hardy, Saluda Bill. 
lames Hemhree, Sen. Anderson C. H. (Jharlea 
Carter, Cambridge. B, Lawrence, Effingham. 
James Burris, Sen. Bold Spring. William S. 
Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackville. An- 
drew Westmoreland, Cashville. James J, Kjrk- 
land, Four Mile llranah. Ransom Hamilton, AU 
ken. John S. Rogers, CrowsviUe, Marsha! Mc- 
Graw, .Brown's. John L> Simpson, Cookham's. 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDonough. .John McKenn'ey, For- 
syth. Anthony Hoiloway, Lagrange. P, M. Cal- 
houn, Krtoxville. R. Reese, Baton ton. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than \ T e,cl, J, noes Hollingsworth and Stephen 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bcmdoin, Adairsville, fi. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Opatoie, Clark Jackson and Abedne.go Mc- 
Ginty, Fori Gaines. John Gayden, Frdnklin, P. 
H. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, 77m n- 
aston. William Bowden, Union Valley. Ezra Mc- 
CraTy, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. John Lassetter, Vernon. B. Pace, Van 
Wert. L. Peacock, Cassv:]]e. VaehalD. Whatley, 
Uarnesville. Alex. Garden and Thomas C, Trice, 
Mount Morne. Ellas 0. Hawthorn, Bainbridge. 
J. G. Wintringham, HaUaea. William M« 
Amos, Greenville. Randolph Arnold, Lati- 
mer's Store. Thomas J. Bazemore, Clinton. 
Jonah Stovall, AquiMa. G. P.Cannon, Cilloden- 
ville, Jason Gr'rer, Indian Springs. William 
Me E Ivy, Af/apu/gus. Furna Ivey, Mi Hedged lie. 
William Garrett, Cotton River. Jesse Moore, 
Georrre Herndon and John Hardie, Tr- 
winton. Leonard Pratt, Whifesville. Ed- 
ward Jones Decatur. Thomas J. Johnson, New- 
nan. Israel Hendon, Shilo. Robert B. Mann, 
Chesnut Grove. Vfm. Tippit, Cedar-Branch. A.G. 
Simmons, Hickory Grove. John Lawhon, Che- 
nuba. John Heringlon, Welborn's Mills. 
James P. Ellis, Pineville, French Haggard, 
Athens. Henry Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Valley, Josiah Gresham, White Wall. Daniel 
O'Neel, Fowlton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro', 
J,B.Mor£an&. B, PiRouse,F;-i'e(irMip, Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fuir Play. John Wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hooiensville. R. S. Hamriek, Carrotltmi. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 



Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses IL Den 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Tanri, B\alte\y, Ash 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r, 
7!<) ;.:•.;<, Me, John Stroud', Kendall. James Soar- 
hnrnntfhj cUtatssboro'igh. Voiyig T. Slandifef, 
Mulberry Grove, Robert R, Thompson, Cent're- 
ville. Young T Standifer, Mnlb&iry Grove, ja- 
red Johnson, Tro'apville, Kindred Braawell, 
Dun'cansville, Edmund Si Chambless, ^failings 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Gomaud 
Dumas, JohnstanviWe. David RowelT", Jr. Groo- 
r?T.<vi}\e. Joel Coiley, Covington, W. \v, Pool, 

Alabama. — L.B. Moseley, Odliawba. A. Kea- 
tp'n, McGonico, John Blackstone, LnFaijeUe. W. 
■to. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance. Daniel's 
Prairie. VVm. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dah'1 
Gafford, Greenville. Samuel .Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G. Walker, Milton •. Henry Williams. //;- 
bana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron. James 
Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Cliurch Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, LbigKf.on, 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, flew Market. Kherrod w. 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves* Ferry, 
■William '('alley, Mount Moriah, Gra'ddy Her. 
Ting, Clayton. C w. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel 
C ,\ Johnson, Phasant Grove. William Crutcher, 
Huntsville. \a illiam Hi Cook, Pickensville. 
Seaborn Hamriok. Plantcrsville. William Mel- 
ton, Bluff Port. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Win. 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus Daniel, Jamestori, An- 
derson w. Bullard, Tusgegee. Frederick Hinos- 
Gaston, Z. Johns, Tinra, Eli McDonald, P&ins- 
ri/le. A. Mitchell, Garter's Hill. William Pow- 
ell, YoungsviUe. James May, Wacootar, Silas 
Slorik, Horse Slioe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson; Abbeville- David Tread well 
am! R.\v. Carlisle, Mount Hickory . Sam'l T.Owen, 
■Argus, Joseph H.Holloway, lirzle Green. Luke 
R. Simmon's, 'Pray. Jesse Lee, Farmersv'ille; 
William S. Armstrong-, Louhv'Jle. Marie Porter, 
JJemopo/is, Henry Adams, Mount Willing. Joel 
Hi Chambless, Lowsvllle. Elliot Thomas, Wil- 
liamston. F. Pickett, China UrOv'ei James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M Pearson, Dadeville. W. 
J. Sorelle, W cfumpka, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cox, Soukeehatejiie. James Searcy, Irwinton. 
J-Tazael Lilt]efield,«7ackson™l!e. John vv. Pellum, 
Franklin, Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D- Cooper, Wil- 
Mamsion. John Harrell, Missouri. James K, 
Jacks, Eliton. Henry Hilliard, BeWville. John 
A. Miller, Oalifuskee. Durham Kelly, Alexan- 
dria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Athens, William 
Thomas, Prospect Ridge. John Bishop, Jun'r. 
Crochet tsri lie. 

Tennessek. — A. V. Farmer, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
chael Burkhalter, Chccksville. Tho's K. Clincran, 
Smith's!*, /toads. W.B.fope, Philadelphia. Aaron 
Compton, Somerville. (Charles Henderson }I9m6ry 
Iron Works, Asa Newport, Mcesvitlc. James 
Maulden, Fan Burrn. A.BiflTonghs, Wesley. W'm. 
Croom, Jackson. Sion Bass,TAree Forks, John vv 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough, Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Sevienfille. 
Thos. B.Yeates, Lynch burg. C.T. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Merlon. Levi Kirkland and George 
Turner, Waverly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 

Randolph, Snvdysville, Pheasant A. Witt, Cheekh 
>i Roads. J, Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. Jas> FL Holloway, Hazel 
Green. William McBee, Old Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin w. Harget, Cherryville\ 

Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Springs. 
Thos I !o|]and,Wff(7u(7/e Wojsham Mann Columbus: 
Henry Petty, Zioil. Will. Piuddleston, 'Thomas/on; 
Nathan Tims, Kosciusko. Jonathan D.Cain, Wa- 
terford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 
Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris; 
WaeeWng. Simpson Parks. Lockharfs Store} 
Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, W\A. Ringo, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beemari 
and Thomas Hi Dixon, Macon. John Krwin; 
Li nkhorne, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and Micajah 
Crenshaw, Marion. Win. Warren, Dekalb, C. 
Nichols, Slump Bridge. 

Florida, — James Alderman and P, Blount; 
China Hill. David Callaway, Cherry Lake. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, fylurbuniville. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro'. Uriah Stevens, 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri. — Joe! Ferguson; Jackstin 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand line, 
James Marshall, Salem. Thomas \v. Martin* 
Ea<st Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzraan; New Harmony. I» 
saac w, Denman, Gallatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Philanthropy. Johrt 
B. Moses, Germanlon, 

Kentucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Mcmehester, Wash- 
ington Walts, ComeliusviWe. 

Virginia. — Kemuel C. Gilbert, SydnorsviWe. 
Rudolph Rorer, Berger's Store. John Clark, Fre- 
dericksburg. Wm w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifax C, H, George w. San ford-; 
Harrisonburg. Jesse Lankford, Bowers's, Eli- 
jah Hansbrough, Somerville. Wilson Davenport; 
White House. 

Dis. Culump.ia. — Gilbert Beebe, Alexandria. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, South /fill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. Nathan Everitt, 
Chi/liconts Town. 

Wisconsin Ter. — M. w. Dai nail, Blue River. 


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John Rogers, 1 

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Wm. S. Weaver, 1 
Joseph Bynum, 1 
Jonathan Ellis, 1 
Benjamin Bynum, 3 
Jesse 0. Knight, 2 

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Georgia, Monroe county, Feb. 1S40. 

Bklovkd Brethren: As I am a plain 
plantation man, I vvili give you some 
more of my plain cornfieM talk, and will 
try lo tell you the plain truth about our 
writings in the Primitive. I think that 
some of us indulge too freely & too liberal- 
ly in harsh sayings and unfeeling reflections 
and expressions, which tend to injure and 
invalidate our paper; and in my judgment 
has a tendency to destroy the force of ar- 
gument, used by the writer, rather than 
carry conviction of the truth to the hearts 
of our readers. 

Dear brethren, we lenrn from sacred writ, 
that what was written afore time was written 
for our learning, and is profitable for doc- 
trine, for reproof, &c. &c. that the m3n of 
God may be thoroughly furnished unto ev- 
ery good work; and among other things, 
we find written that: A soft answer turneih 
away wrath; but grievous words stir up 
strife. The same inspired penman said: 
Pleasant words are as a honey-comb, sweet 
to the soul and health to the bones. And 
again: Words fitly (or righteously) spo- 
ken are like apples of gold in pictures of 
silver. Therefore, dear brethren, let us 
shun hard sayings, and quit casting unfeel- 
ing reflections at our religious enemies, (I 
mean expressions unwarranted by the 
word of God.) Try as much as in us is, 
to glorify God in our bodies and our spirits, 
which are his, for it is written by the 
Psalmist: Whoso offereth praise glorify- 
eth God. And to him that ordereth his 
conversation aright, will 1 show the salva- 
tion of God. Therefore, brethren, study 

to show yourselves approved unto God, 
workmen that need not be ashamed, 
rightly dividing the word of truth, giving 
to each their portion of meat in clue season; 
being always ready to give an answer to 
to every one that askelh, of the reason of 
the hope that is in us, with meekness and 
fear. A soft answer turneth away wrath, 
but grievous words stir up strife. Then 
let us be guarded against grievous words, 
rough, harsh reflections, and unfeeling ex- 
pressions; because they stir up anger, are 
the legitimate offspring of strife, hatred, 
and contention. Let us, therefore, cease 
from strife. 

Moreover, brethren, we are admonished! 
to be not envious against evil men, and 
to fiet not because of evil doers, neith- 
er be envious against the wicked. Dearly 
beloved, if it be possible, as much as Iieth 
in you live peaceably with all men; re- 
compence to no man evil for evil, render not 
railing for railing; do unto all men as }-ou 
would they should do unto you. If thine 
enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give 
him drink; for in so doing thou shaft heap 
coals of fire on his head. Love your ene- 
mies, do good to them which hate you, bless 
them that curse you. pray for them which 
despiUfully use you and persecute you; and 
unto him that smifeth thee on the one 
cheek offer also the other, and him that ta- 
keth away thy cloak forbid not to' take thy 
coat also. VV|,cn thou art persecuted, 
bear it as becomeih a good soldier of Je- 
sus Christ; recollecting that your names 
are to be east out as evil. Being appoint- 
ed unto death (said Paul) we are made a 
spectacle unto the world, onto angels and 
unto men; even unto this hour we both hun- 
ger and thirst, are buffeted and have no 
certain dwelling place; being reviled, we 
bless; being persecuted, we suffer it; being 



defamed, we entreat. Wc are made as 
Ihe filth of the world, and are the offscour- 
ing of all things unto this day. 

Dear brethren, if you are mocked, deri 
ded and scoffed at; defamed and' reviled, 
buffeted and persecute*!.,- set it down as a 
part of your heritage while tabernacling 
here below. If these things were done in 
the green tree, what may we expect in the 
dry; and if the master of the house thus 
suffered, let those of his* household think to 
fare no better. We learn that, thiough 
much tribulation the righteous shall enter 
the kingdom of heaven. Therefore^ as old 
Paul said, let us glory in tribulation, 
knowing that tribulation worketh patience, 
and patience experience, and experience 
hope, and hope makelh not ashamed-, be- 
cause the love of God is shed abroad in 
your hearts by the Holy Ghost, which is 
given unto us. 

Dear brethren, the time of night admon- 
ishes me to stop. So I will close by sub- 
scribing myself your poor unworthy bro- 
ther in full fellowship. 



Pittsylvania county, Virginia, > 
November 17, 1839. \ 
Dear brethren Editors: I am glad 
that I am blessed with this privilege of 
letting you hear from me, but am sorry 
l hat I have to say what I must say to Mr. 
Creep. First, I must say to my beloved 
brother Dumas, that I am truly glad that 1 
find from your letter in the Primitive', that 
though you found my name signed to that 
scurrilous letter written by some unknown 
villain, you did not think hard of me, for 
which 1 am glad. And I will say to my 
.brethren, that I received much such a let- 
ter from Clarke county, Ga. and it had the 
name of James Lasiler to it, which he said 
was to admonish -me in the spirit of meek- 
ji"P6, and addressed me as brother, which 
i thought, was not right. For he went on 
to admonish me, until lie had abused all 
my brethren. So he would find fault of 
us, and say we ought not to find fault of 
.any profession. 

Mr. Lasiter admonished me much for 
saying, that the missionaries were liars. 
Now, sirf are they not' liars; yea, worse 
than liars? For they will write a Utter and 
put my name to ii, to make my brother 
mad with me; but they could not, and the 
reason is, beeause God is stronger than the 

devil. So this servant of the devil could 
not make my brother mad with me, for he 
is a liar and closely allied wiih the father 
of lies. So Mr. L. may see that they will 
tell lies. But, say some, all do not, Bul r 
sir, do not the missionaries fellowship then* 
that do tell lies?" I say, yes they do; for 
all that contend for begging, and selling 
memberships in religious societies, are li- 
ars; and those who fellowship them »re 
as bad as they are, for it is wriiten, he that 
seeth his brother doing evil and does bid 
him God speed, is partaker of his evil 
deed. So 1 say, he that conceals is as bad 
as he that steals,, so they are all alikey 
Mr. L- 

Again: Mr. L. says, we ought not to be 
so contentious, but let all be Christ's Bap- 
tists. So 1 say. But they are not all 
Christ's, therefore I will say to you, 
sneaks, that the children of God are of one 
mind and of one judgment. See 1 Cor. I 
eh. 10 verse. And again: See Romans, 
15 ch. 5 and 6 verses: Now the God of 
patience and consolation grant you to be 
like minded, one toward another, accord- 
ing to Christ Jesus. Here you may see 
that all professors are not the children of 
God, or there would be hut one sort. 
For, saj's the word of God: My people 
shall alt be taught of the Lord, and great 
shall be the peace of my people. So you 
see the children have gieat peace, when 
they are all taught of I he Lord; but when 
-some are taught of men, and have their 
j knowledge from the theological schools 
land not Irom the Lord, then there is not 
, peace. And that is the cause of so many 
[Letters being sent to us without the writers' 
[names to them, because their deeds are 
evil, and they love darkness better than 
light. Therefore it is, that you school 
men do keep dark, for you know nothing 
about the spirit of truth, which shall direct 
you into all truth. 

I will say to Mr. Lasiter, that I do not 
know Whether you are the author of that 
letter oi not, as I see the sneaks have writ- 
ten a letter of lies and put my name to it. 
,So I thought they might write a letter to 
me, and cram it with stuff as false as that 
one is 1 have received, with your nan.e to 
it; so if you did not write said letter, you 
may give all 1 have said concerning it to 
the sneak, family, for it will suit any of 
them. And if you did write it, you may 
keep it all, and if you wi.«h to hear more 
from me on this subject, you can let me 
know that you wrote said letter, and I 



U-iii write you a letter in answer to it, if 
this will nol do. So good day; 

I will again say lo Mr. creeper, who pul 
my name to his false or lying letter, and 
seat it Jo brother Dumas, you are a real 
Sneak aud a rascal, and have done that thai 
no one but a rascal would do; for you hava 
not only transgressed the lawsofGod, but 
the laws of our land; and you know, sir, 
that makes a man a rascal. And what I 
say to you, I say to all you sneaks and 
mission iries, far you are all of the same 
sort. An I again, you have just proved 
what I hive said of you before; so I hope 
and believe every honest Christian will 
quit you. for the old proverb has come to 
pa-s, ihat the devil has daggered himself. 
So I think I have not lost any thing* but I 
believe that all things will work together 
lor good to the church of the living God. 
So l can rejoice at all these things, and will 
pray God to forgive them their folly and 
turn them to the truth of the gospel of Je- 
sus Christ; and then they shall be turned, if 
consistent with thy wiil, O God. 

Dear beloved of God, let us sec what is 
meant in the 15 ch. of Paul to the Romans, 
and 5. G, and 7 verses. We find there 
that Paul was exhorting the church to the 
unity of the spirit in these words — see 5 
verse: Now the God of patience and con- 
solation grant you to he like minded one 
toward another, according to Christ. Jesus; 
G verse": That ye may with one mind and 
one mouth glorify God, even the Father of 
our Lord Jesus Christ. 7 verse: Where- 
Core* receive ye one another as Christ also 
received us, to the glory of God. Here, 
my brethren, we are told to be of the same 
mind, and with one mouth glorify God; 
and to receive such 'as are with us in doc- 
trine, for that is what is here meant. So 
we, brethren, ought not to receive any bill 
such as will give nil the glory to God, in 
letting him have the right to sive his peo- 
ple when and where he will; for this does 
belong to God to do. See 10 ch. of Ro- 
. mans, 20 verse: But Esaias is very bold, 
and saith, I was found of them that sought 
me not; I was made manifest to them that 
asked not after me. So we see it is not of 
calling by the creature, nor willing of she 
creature, but of God; for if you call to God 
aright, it is of God; and if you will have 
Christ to reign over you, it is of God, for 
every good and perfect gift is of God. So 
it is all of God, that is good; for how can 
a dead person call on any thing for help, or 
how can they know that they have need of 

any thing? They cannot, unless they are 
quickened by I he spirit of God, and made 
alive to a sense of their situation; and iheil 
they will call on God, and cry to him for 
salvation, and will be brought to say of a 
Irutli, Lord, salvation is of the Lord; and 
will say, that Jesus chose me and not I 
him — no, but will say, that all the saints' 
of God were chosen in Christ Jesus beiore 
the world was. 

Dear brethren in Jesus, farewell. 



Georgia, Troup county, 
October 25, 1839. 

Dear brethren Editors: The reason 
i try to write I his piece is, because my 
mind got to ritnning back into former 
things, and my thoughts took a glance 
over some of the things that have been un- 
der my own knowledge} therefore I make 
the venture, lo try lo pen down a few 
of my thoughts, although I never learnt to 
write at school but at home. And believ- 
ing that the Primitive paper is so well con- 
ducted, that if they see any thing in my 
awkward writings that will do harm, they 
will lay it by and not let it come to the 

And now, my dear brethren, I Will say 
I have learned from reading the Signs of 
(he Times and the Primitive Baptist for 
some time, Ihat (he Baptist denomination 
has become a divided people, nearly over 
the United States; and as David said, is 
there not a cause? And Jesus said, that the 
tnc is lo be known by its fruit. There- 
fore, dear brethren, let us try to act as 
consistent as we can, and when we get bit- 
ter fruit from a tree, not try to shake ifc 
again; for we have withdrawn from the 
brethren for sever. d penned down reasons, 
that I have seen in the Signs and Primi- 
tive both. 

Now, brelhren, 1 will give you some of 
the reasons why 1 wished to be away from 
them. I had a brother Baptist, that had 
joined the Temperance S6ci|£y, to tell me 
that he had as iieve see a brother Baptist 
lake his cards and go to gambling, as to 
see him lake a dram. And further, while 
I was a member in Vernon church; there 
came a Circular in the post office, from the 
Biblical Association, directed to Vernon 
church, in which, Ihe Circular, 1 had no 
fellowship. And- 1 will here copy some 

I of its own words E£«re they are: 

I I J 



* ''If protracted meetings are owned and 
blest of Gorl, why shall we not sustain thom 
by our periodicals? The home mission and 
State Convention are justly regarded as 
highly worthy our attention; to these we arc 
bound to give a liberal support; but it still 
remains a fact easily proved, hy compar- 
ing the reports of the home minion and 
State Convention, with the reports of those 
men who have employed themselves in 
protracted meetings, that a few individuals 
unaided from the funds of civil or religious 
corporations, and in loo many instances de- 
cidedly opposed, have been instrumental 
in bringing into our churches more men 
and means than all the operations of the 
home mission and the State Convention put 

And now I will say, I do n^t think it 
missed the truth very far; for in our 
country the meetings protracted much lon- 
ger than the brother from NY ct urn oka 
wroteof in the 17No. present volume. For 
here they protracted some, times the rise of 
thirty days, and seemed to conceive, J ravail, 
and bring forth, all as it were before they got 
put of the bed; for they multiplied both 
nien and means in abundance. 

S^t, my brethren, h;'S not the fruit been 
bitter? Yes, the same like principle has 
split the denomination asunder, for you 
ii !o the works of men. For in that 
circular it claimed itself as a true 
yoke :. ">w to all the institutions already 
in fhe field. And if this great host of men 
and ir ans could have lived to get as old 
--.?! did when he began to mock, 
; ' a -Y begun to mock the Baptist doc- 
brother at Wetumpka would 
in peace "longer than he did after 
p :> Liacted meeting there. And this is 

of the reasons that I say, if wt gather I 
bitter fruit r, 'om a tree, we would do well ! 
apt to shake it again. 

And,dea! ore, hi en, these new kind of Bap- j 
lists have been got much like Ishmaei iva<, i 
for there weie more than two had a hand ! 
in bringing him about; for Sarah, as a i\^- j 
tire of the church, had gut old and impa- I 
Uertl? and thought she could not have the 
promised child; yet she seems to wish to 
have a lihlc hand in it, inasmuch as I J agar 
belong' d to her, she thought she could 
have a hand in the mailer. So she offered 
Hagar to Abraham to get the promised 
child by, and Abraham accepted, and the 
design was accomplished as thought. But 
»las! and so it has been by the church; for 
Qod iiad promised when Zion travelled 

-h<3 should bring forth, and she breams' 
impatient, Sarah-like, and proposed to her 
preacheis or admitted all these easy plans 
of uniting with the world to bring on the 
travail of Zion. And ;>t it they went by 
threes, as 1 told you thai there were more 
than two in the matter. For in the first 
case there were Sarah, Abraham, and Ha* 
gar, all had a hand in it; so in the last case, 
there were the church, preachers, and the 
world, and here come the children. But 
alas! did th<'}' prove a blessing? No, but 
a curse, for they will mock; but I.-hmael 
was slower about it than these new kind 
of Baptists. "But as soon as it was found 
out that they were a mocking family, Sa- 
rah cried out and said, Abraham, my wrong 
he upon thee. And so did the church cry 
out and seid, pieachcrs, j ou are the 
cause; for you are our eye, and might have 
seen better. But as Sarah Owned a wrong, 
I think the church was equally wrong, for 
Suffering her preachers to go where they 
have gone. 

And now I will say, that these new 
light Baptists are a quick grown active 
breed; they can jump on either side of the 
fence, or on the top at pleasure But I 
always think when they are on the fence, 
there are not many Oid School Baptists 
along with them; for the Old School Bap- 
tises are a very clumsy breed, and afraid to 
climb. I do not blame them, for if they 
go to climbing, they are sure to get a fall. 

Now, then, brethren, I will say that 
some of our reason is, for joining of tempe- 
rance societies, that we withdrew. Now 
let us act consistent, brethren. Now what 
is the difference, brethren, in one half of 
the church in signing of a paper obli- 
gates them to abstain from drinks, and the 
other half verbally agree to ab.-tain? I can- 
not sec for my life which has done the 
worst. But here is as true a fig' ire as 1 can 
give: Suppose one brother had a wife, and 
was to mairy another woman; and another 
brother in the church was to sAy, turn him 
out, and heal the same lime had a wife and 
kept a concubine; which of the two could 
we have (he most fellowship for? Now, 
then as 1 am on the subject of what some 
call the devil's invention, I will say, that I 
do not certainly know thai 1 have been 
changed by grace; but I have a faint hope 
I have been. And if so, 1 was a stiller when 
1 was under conviction and when J got a 
hope, if ever, near twenty years ago; %a<\ 
have made ami sold and made use of it 
more or lesj ever since. And the first be- 



loved oM Baptist preachers that I ever was 
acquainted with, used it, thai is, their 
dram, and ( think enjoyed themselves in 
it. And I can say, if all the Old School 
Baptists wish to drink their dram, it will 
not hurt me as long as they u>e it in mode- 
ration; nor if they do not want to drink it, 
do not drink it. For it will not. hurt me it 
they all do like brother Moseley did, that 
is, sell and use it in modera'ion as long as 
they please; for I allow brother Moscly 
done so, for he says he has quit selling and 
drinking, and that is owning he has fallow- 
ed both. And s o let us all do like brother 
IMosely has done, whenever we are satis- 
fied that it is an evil to us, let us quit as he 
has dene. And I do not think that broth- 
rr Moscly meant in his last letter in the 
Primitive, No. 19, in saying he wished the 
churches to exercise discipline, and if they 
would go on to gratify the appetite turn 
them out; for th .it is what I drink it for, to 
nourish and gratify the appetite as I do my 
victuals — so I think the brother meant 
those who go on drinking to excess. 

Now inasmuch as every body does not 
knoiv, that there are memorials or peti- 
tions to our legislature to pass a law to 
stop !he retailing of spirits in Georgia, now 
here is my principle in part; 1 would 
much rather they would do away the li- 
cense law and set every man at libeity to 
sell the product of his own labor in any 
quantity, great or snv-ll, as he ehoosed; but 
pass a law that no debt for spirits should be 
collected in any court of justice wha'ever, 
and then the widow and orphan would not 
be broke up for spirits, that might be said 
to have killed the husband. But let every 
man sell what he phased for the money,but 
no debts only debts of honor, and then eve- 
ry man would be at liberty and could not 
say his rights were taken frpm him. For 
the law now docs not now compel any man 
to sell hie goods without he gets the money, 
nor stop him from giving to the poor when 
he pleases. 

Dear brethren, my sheet is full and 1 
will close by saying, I pray God to bless 
us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly 
places in Christ Jesus, with all earthly com- 
forts to use as not abusing. Farewell, 


nunication I made a statement of facts, re- 
lative to the split in the Tallasehstchefc 
Association, that six churches had with- 
drawn from th:it body, and in accordance 
with previous appointment met by their 
delegates at Walnut Spring meeting house, 
on Saturday before the 3rd Sunday in 
November last, and was formed an Associ- 
ation upon Primitive principles. And for 
further information upon the subject, I 
enclose you a Minute of said Association, 
which you will please give a place in your 
paper, as it will give more general satis- 
faction to brethren of the Primitive order 
than all that I could say at this time upon 
the subject. 

1 am yours, with the highest respects of 

Extract from the. Minutes of ths first 
session of the Macedonia lUiptlst ..As- 
sociation, held at the Walnut Spring 
Church, Benton Coir-, Ala* 'from 
Sixteenth to the nineteen , November 


Article 7. This Association Will noi- fe 
lowship any church or churches, nor hoi 
them in union, who are engaged in suppt . - 
ting any Missionary, Bible, Tract, or Sun- 
day School Union Societ)^, or advocate 
State Convention or Theological Schools,- 
nor any other Society, that has been or 
may hereafter be formed under a pretence 
of circulating the Gospel of Christ: nor 
will she correspond with any Association. 
, that is engaged in supporting any of the 
[ above named Institutions; they being with- 
I out a thus saith the Lord, for them as to 
! the chui-ch. 


Jacksonville, Benton county, *1la. \ 

Jan Slsi, 1840. $ 

Brethren Editors: Ih my last com- 


Tennessee, Hardiman county, } 
December 6/h, 1839. > 
Dear brethren Editors: I have 
been a reader of the Primitive Baptist from 
the 2nd volume, and I can say as many of 
you saj^, 1 rejoice to see so many of you, 
contending for the faith once de'ivered to 
the saints. I have heard from seven 
Slates in one Utile, number, a great distance 
apart, all speak one voice: COME OUT 
OF HER, MY PEOPLE. It seems 
like it all came at one and the same time; 
and, brethren, 1 think it came from the 
Lord. 1 feel rejoiced to see so many of 
my old Georgia brethren, Win, Moseley 
and Lewis, who are almost bone of my 



bona, and flesh of my flesh; and old bupth- '.brother Silas Mercer, Jesse took bis stsufll 
er Anthony Holloway, all denying men- I at Povvelton, Georgia, and 1 reckon cl>e- 

made preachers at forty dollars per 
month, a begging money to carry on their 
great speculations through a cloak of reli- 
gion, with Bible under their arms, with 
sheep's clothing. But, brethren, they arc 
greedy wolves and deceivers, and are to 
be well watched, as people are apt to look 
very much up to the preachers. 

As I hear a brother, David Smith of 
Ce rgia, Wilkinson county, say thai the 
New School Baptists say they had almost 
all the preachers, and that must make a 
show that they are right, they are totally 
mistaken; they have not one fourth of the 
old preachers, and we mi^,ht hardly suppose 
that all was gold that shines. But it is'true, 
that they have poor old Jesse Mercer, of 
Georgia, Editor of the Christian Index, 
which paper 1 took a few years ago two 
years hand running. 1 thought strange 
that he as E litor of that paper should pass 
or let pass things as he did. I only will 

where. He appeared to follow his father's 
footstep*, and I lived in Georgia many 
years after this and Jesse Mercser preached 
the same doctrine that the Baptists held to 
then, and the same they hold to now. And 
so went on the greater part of his life, till 
a few y ears ago. But alas, brethren and sis 
ters, where is he now? Much honor has 
made him mad. The missionaries, know- 
ing his'high standing among the Baptist 
denomination, made him Editor of their 
missionary paper, (Christian Index,) and 
then made up something verygreat and call- 
ed it Mercer Institution, & made him Pies- 
ideut of it. The schemers of the dav, 
knowing the frailty of man, took this sub- 
tle scheme in order to gel him over on the 
Ishmaelitc side, and that hi* high stand- 
ing would go further than fifty of tlvii- 
common strikers, at forty dollars per 

Brethren and sisters, I have thought if 
mention one or two little things. A re- Jesse Mercer ever tho'l of being the gieat 
epiest for money to go to the heathen from , cause of splitting and rending the churches 
America; why will you keep back your j and Associations, that his father old brother 
money when there are thousands or mil- ! SiLs Mercer with the helpof God planted in 
lions of poor souls perishing and going to i his time and day? I reckon not, or he would 
hell for want of it — or words to that same j have been convicted for it. The Lord grant 
amount. We think, brethren, that is a i that he may see his great error in time <o 
God-dishonoring doctrine. Thy money make his acknowledgment, for the great 

perish with thee, 

I saw in the Christian Index how the 
young Baptist preachers were to be taught 
in the Mercer Institution; the first thing 
he was to learn, the evidence of a Chris- 
tian. 1 suppose, brethren, to know hovy to 
take in his members to make up his church. 
I think the next, he was to study a train of 
idd Irish history; that, and little more, 
brought him to preach one sermon a week. 
I guess, brethren, poor preaching too to the 
Christian. I knew young Jesse Mercer 
when he first came out. of Little River 
College. Some where about that time he 
began to preach; but brethren 1 am in hopes 
that he did not learn his evidence of being 
a Christian there; (I mean, brethren, 
taught by that institution.) About these 
times the good old brother, Silas Mercer, 
deceased; Jesse's father, who had preached 
the God-honoring doctrine all his life 
time; By grace ye are sived, &c. Bret.h- 
ren and sisters, 1 think he had theevidence 
ot a Christian within his own breast, with- 
out going to the institutions of the day to 
learn that evidence. 

But l» return. After the death of old 

distress and trouble he has been o;;e of 
the main causes of in the churches Mark 
those that cause division, brethren and 

I am 72 years of age, and did not expect 
to write, as there are so many able writers 
that write so much to my notion; but when 
it. came upon me to write, I w;is obliged 
to do it. If I write again, I will write 
about home, the scheme the missionaries 
took to get themselves established at our 
last Legislature, and how they gut defeated 
by our good Legislature; aud a liitio 
about old Robert T. Daniel. 

I am yours, &c. TIIOS. LOfV. 


Wilkinson conn/?/, Georgia, } 
December \2//i,lS39. \ 
Brethren Editors: I lor the first 
time have taken my pen in hand to write 
vou a few lines, which I have had in mind 
for some time; but have shrunk at the idea 
when I have viewed my ignorance and im- 
perfection; and expecting that some a»e 



"Would say that J. II. was getting a little to ' preamble and resolutions were unanimous-. 

•smart or wished a bia; name. 

Brethren, if my sinful heart does not 
deceive me, this is not my object; but 
merely in a way of reasoning, and ad- 
monishing of my brethren Baptists, that are 
still living in missionary churches, if any 
of them should happen to- get hold of this. 
Now, brethren, it is not every one that pro- 
fesses to be a Baptist, th:il is; hut I will 
lell you who I call Baptists. Those that 
believe that it is by grace they are saved 
through iaith; and that not of themselves, 
it is the gift of God; not of works, le-t any 
man should boast. And those that be- 
lieve that the whole church of Jesus Christ 
were given to him by God the Father in the 
covenant of redemption, and that they all 
were virtually saved in Christ before the 
world began. And all of them will be saved, 
world without end, & not one of them lost,. 
Now, brethren, all of these new kind of 
Baptists are not of this faith, nor not very 
many of them, but some; while some 
believe in falling from grace; while some 
believe that every body is called with 
an holy calling, and it just depends 
on the creature's good works, whether 
tie is saved or not, they believe that 
the work of the creature is essentia! 
to their salvation. And one told me one 
day, that there was but very little that dif- 
fered the Baptists & Methodists;' and if they 
would yield a lit' lo, and lay all prejudice 
down, ihey would come together. 1 could 
go on and state more, but will not now. 

Now. brethren, you know this is not Hap- 
tist faith; and for the Lord's sake, and for 
your own soul's sake, and for the welfare 
of Zion, consider where you are and come 
out from among the mixed _ multitude. 
Now I will draw to a close, and perhaps 
1 have said too much already, unless it were 
more to the purpose. For 1 always hate to 
hear a man telling a long staiy, and never 
say any thing — you understand me, that is, 
to the point. So I subscribe myself, 
yours in hope of eternal life. 



Halifax county, Va. Feb. 29/h, 1S10. 
Resolutions of Ml. Zion church. 

The church convened together, and af- 
ter singing and prayer hy bro. J. Shot- 
well, bro. Wilson Davenport was chosen 

On motion and second, the following 

ly adopted: 

Whereas, a part of the churches of the 
Roanoke Association, at the last session 
held at Arbor meeting house, in Halifax 
county, did petition and obtain letters of 
dismission to form a new Association;, 
and whereas we think the fellowship, is. 
broken among us, therefore 

Resolved, That we as a church will not 
invite to sit in conference, nor commune 
with us, members of any of those churches 
who hold with, or join in. with, the institu- 
tions of tlie day, (knowing them to be 
such;) believing as we do, that the institu- 
tions of the day have been, and are, the 
cause of splits and divisions amongst the 
Baptists. Romans, xvi. 17, IS. 1= Cor. 1. 
10. xiv. 33. 

Resolved, That we will not receive by 
letter any member from any of those 
churches, without first examining into their 
faith and practice. 

Resolved, That these resolutions be sent 
to the Editors of the Primitive Baptist, for 

After singing, by the Moderator were 
dismissed in order. 

D. SEAT, Clerk. 


South Carolina, Fairfield district, 

Jan. 15, 1S40. 5 
Dear Brethren: I hope you will ac- 
cept a few 'lines from one that hopes he 
has an interest in the Lord Jesus Christ; for 
1 wish to inform you of the proceedings 
in this part of the country as it respects re- 

The church that I belong to is, about 
seven miles from the Furman Institution, 
and the majority of the church never did 
have any thing to do with the institution. 
About seven years ago, we. excluded one of 
the members belonging to said church, and 
we have all reason to believe that he was 
worthy of exclusion. In a few weeks af- 
ter he was excluded, he came back to the 
church but brought no fruits of repentance, 
and therefore the church could - not restore 
him. He then with some others applied 
to the Association for a committee, and we 
have been visited several times by them 
and they bore down so hard upon the 
church, that she could not submit, to them. 
And last fall they came back to the church 
and gave letters to all the members in favor 



of the institutions, which were six, to unite fwoald I act with a deacon of the ssfffie 
with other churches; and left the majority stamp. And, brethren, 1 there threw off a 

of the church, twenty-two in number, to 
shift for themselves. 

And now, dear brethren, while we were 
in this distressing situation, I read one of 
your papers, which was a bundle of good 
news to me; yea it filled my soul with joy 
to find, thai there were people in different 
parts of the world contending far the faith 
Once delivered to the saints. 

I pray that God would enable all of 

heavy load, that 1 have never felt since. 

And some of you, brethren, say there is 
no church handy. I would just as soon live 
with them in five miles of a Baptist 
church, as I would if the nearest was one 
hundred miles off. I cannot tell how far 
the Baptists would be from me to keep me 
away- I will live with them, if they will 
let me; and if they will not have me, I 
will take my Bible and live by myself, be- 

lls to walk iri that straight and nar- fore I will live with a people that are only 

row way, that leads to life eternal; leaving Baptists by name. And when 1 think of 
-ii it. :j~ l _„ — . ~r «l:_ i'i'i.i ■ _i i i _r.i_ 

the above named preachers, after many 
years preaching the old original predesti- 
narian Baptist faith, now to say, the day 
of revelation is past, that faith is the art of 
the creature, and that certain articles of the 
Baptist faith ought to be stricken out, and 
such like; it lookslike such men had they 
Ihe power, would overturn the true gospel 
of the Lord Jesus Christ, and put the doc- 
trines and traditions of men in li( u of it. 
And how it is they can mount the sacred 
stand with so much boldness, I cannot 

But, good brethren, tell roe; they say 
they are just what they always have been, 

all the pride and pomp of this world 



Georgia, Stewart county, 
February 2nd, 1S40. 

Dear buethtien: Who are Bipti<ts, 
and can't be nothing but H iptists; for many 
of you I am sorry, net only in my own sec- 
tion of country, but elsewhere. And 
•when I hear how }-ou are imposed on, 1 
feel for you, though many of you 1 shajl 
not. see this side of the great day; yet by 

writing we can converse, and I shall nut land I often fearit is thecas". And when 
fall out with no brother because he cannot over the Baptists invite them into their 
see with my eyes. But knowing there | house, I believe they disobey God and are 
are now so many churches in this section, ! partaker of their evil deeds. And I be- 
and perhaps elsewhere, in such confusion, j licve if the Baptists had kept up a good 
and hearing of brethren saying they do not sound discipline, and silenced or excluded 
know what to' do, they are so far from any every one when they fell in with such trash, 
church; and perhaps some deacons acting ; they would now have been at peace. And 
■under the administration of the weather- thedisciplcsjn the apostles'day were told to 
cock preacher?, that can turn any way — ] mark such and avoid them; and 1 believe 
now, brethren, as it sometimes helps to tell ! by good words and fair speeohes they have 
our travel, hear a little of mine, particular- 1 deceived many. But there is a people that 
}y brother deacons. vote with the missionaries, live with themj 

When I first came here, five years back, their acts say their doctrine is good food, 
1 thought 1 was among Baptists of the right | their words say, tiny like Baptist doc-. 
fifStmpt The preachers appeared to try to ■ trine best — a few of these are a plenty. 
defend the gospel cvf Christ. After about i And now, brethren, do not. let the great 
three years, part of said preachers I thought ! yell and cry that has been the few last years 
would wiredraw and misconstrue scripture! about money, keep us from our duty; our 
to prop up new things to me, and thus pro- ( poor preacheis must live and there are 
greased on until I did believe they were un- j more calls for them than they can attend 
eound in faith, and began to get very un- ! to. A.nd as we often take our old broth- 
easy whether I was in my duty to act as er Paul's writings to overturn the course 
deacon under their administration or not. the Arminjan Baptists pursue, I shall pen 
After some days consideration on scripture, down a few words of the same apostle for 
1 became so completely sausfiod that God all to think of as they please, which read 
did not require it at my hands, that 1 was thus: And we beseech \ou, brethren, to 
jestless until confereoce day. There 1 know them which labor among you and 
publicly told my brethren, I never would [are over you in the J^ord, and admOn-fsb. 
get under their administration, neither -you, and to eatoem them ve?y highly' In 



love for their works sake. 1 Tbes. 5;h chap. 
12 and 13 vcr. 

I close by saving, these lines are with 
you to print or burn as you think Iks 1 : 
and as the heads of many that are now con- 
tending for the tiu'fi are fist blooming for 
the grave my desire is, that God would pre- 
p-ire some of the rising gfneration to 
fill their seats. ROUGH T BUUK. 


SATURDAY, M.-U-lCil 11, 18-10. 



Dfau Brethren; Let. us for a fen- 
moments attend to the admonition of the 
great apostle to 'he Gentiles, when address 
ing the household of faith on a certain oc 
easion; "I5e ye therefore followers of (rod. 
as dear children. ;md wdk in love , as 
Christ hath also ioved us and hath given 
himself for us an offering and a sacrifice 
to God for a sweet smelling savour." 

Gould we so far wjhdraw ourselves from 
the eontarniflaUng influences of corrupt 
mortality, as to duly appreciate the deep 
feeling and spiiitm.lity of these words of 
the apostle, we might laugh at the horse 
and his rider, hid defiance to the machjnp 
tions of satan for our division and over- 
throw, and in some good degree be enabled 
to exhibit that .simplicity and excellencv of 
character, which shone forth so .conspicuous- 
ly in the lives of Paul, Peter and John, and 
their cotempnraru s in tiie cause of Christ. 
Theeaily martyrs undeis'ood their profes- 
sion, and lived u;> to it.. They counted it a 
small thing to consummate tb< ir profession 
by the sir render of their lives, and followed 
the Lord thro' evil as well as good teport. 

Consider the indue ment, brethren, h Id 
out to us, Chiist hat 1 1 loved us, and i ah 
given himself* for us an ©ffering & a sacrifice 
What a powerful incentive! what a bestir 
ring consideration! what a propelling inQn- 
em-e! Not because God haih created from 
nothing I his green earth whereon nun dwell; 
bedecked it with so. many beauteous scenes, 
and marked upon its surface so mmy sub- 
lime touches of his workmanship — not 
because of the insulated consideration, that 
he hath maoe man after his own image and 

given him dominion over sia and land 

not because he hath eieated the starry hea- 
ven,?, and stretched them out as a curtain 
to dwell in:— or because he hath brought 

such glory and honor to himself by crat- 
ing those higher orders of intelligences who 
at e continually chanting his prais;* far above 
ih-3 heavens;— hut because he hath in tho 
character ofChrisl tho Messiah, given him? 
self a 'ransom anil a sacrifice for US, not- 
withstanding ourfall. sinfulness and corrupt 
*'Twas great to speak this world from 

Pwas greater to redeem." 

By transgression in our federal head 
we forfeited our right to temporal existence 
and the happiness attendant thereon, hut. 
in ihe revelation of the scheme of redemp- 
tion, origin sting in the glorious attribute 
of mercy, wenotonly have the promise of 
the life that now is, but a-lsooj' that which 
is to come, evei'lcisfiiig. iL Khis scheme, 
adopted in the ancient settlement of eterni- 
ty, we are to he elevated far above the 
pleasure of tiiis world, and ustagred into 
that unfathomed ocean of bliss, tha apper- 
tains to the eternal world on high 

But how striking the consideraHQUj that 
; he sacrifice has been made i^r its— -thai ice 
are the object of I o i's eternal love — that 
we have been re'deeo c ■■'< from amongst, the 
great familyof Adana; no' with such fcorrtip- 
tihle things as silver and gold, but whh the 
precious blood of Jesus Christ, whichTwas 
freely shod for I he remission of our sins --not 
for any woi th or merit in us, but for hisgi eat 
love w'oerewiih he loved us While wo 
were yet dead in li;espasses and sins, ; n ( | we 
lime. Christ ■'■\qA for the ungodly. Should 
we not therefore walk in love, — endeavor 
to walk more worthy of the vocation. 
wherewith \va are called — he mora; perfect 
followers of God us dear children-— ch< ri-h 
and cul ivate by every means the best and 
warmest affection foi each other; and dwell 
with rapture and delight upon the eUTiial, 
unalterable, and thrice blessed union that 
doth (Xist, hath ever existed, nnd will ever 
continue to exist, between the saints, their 
Saviour and their God, f*That they all 
may be one; as thou, Rather, art in me and 
1 in thee, that they also may be one in 
us." And what have we to do with car- 
nal affections, and tho pitiful prejudices and 
partialities of I his old ?nan of ours, when 
under the spiritual influence of the new? 
What hath the likes and dislikes of 
the carnal passions to do with the sublime 
consideration of our eternal union in Christ? 
Why should our different pursuits or melh^ 
ods of honest living, cause us to fall out 
by the way? if one goelh to his farm, 



another to his merchandize, another to 
his arts, and another to his literary 
profession, why should this engender jeal- 
ousies, and how can it affect our spiritual 
and eternal union? In these cold times are 
we not too apt to lose si^ht of our sp : riiua! 
union and be driven along •oftenlkftes by the 
impulses of natural pas i ins? If we are cru- 
cified unto the world, &the world unto us — 
if we are dead, and our life is hid with Christ 
eternally in God, how unreasonable and 
childish must it be to suffer the- likes ;&*d is- 
likesof our animal feelings tohide this glo- 
rious truth from our view — tarnish the lustre 
and bedim the fine gold of this ureal funda- 
mental principle in our tenets, and lead us to 
forget this heavenly bond of union. Think 
of (he following: "For by one offering he 
hath forever perfected them that are sanc- 
tified. Elect according to the foreknowl- 
edge of God the Father, sanctifie.ition of the 
spirit and belief of the truth. " ''Who 
hath saved us and called ns, not according 

Christ in the world. Bit when Constan- 
ti tie undertook to assist the Almighty, in 
the protection of his religion and mnlifying 
Iris ministers, by the means of colleges and 
raising them to eminence and authority 
amo^g their brethren, anil putting down all 
persecuting authority from heathen Rome, 
the spirit and life of religion departs; {for 
God iv II not give, his glory to another, 
nor his praise to graven images.) He is 
not dependent on the wisdom of men to 
dictate for him, nor on human power to 
move hi* eternal purposes into effect. Thus 
when this step was made towards human 
wisdom and power, for the preservation 
of the church, it opened a door for errors to 
come in like a flood. And in a short time 
they made a great many departments in the 
church and different grades' and titles to 
their ministers, such as, patriarchs, exarchs, 
popes, cardinals, monks, nuns, friars, &c. 

The pope soon professed to have the keys 
of heaven and hell, and power Ho absolve shis 

to our works, but according to his own I for money, and that he could delegate this 
purpose and grace, given ns in Christ Jesus . power to the priests; and the sins of the 

before the world began, (to he continued.) 
Williamslon, N. C. March, 1840. 

people became an article of commerce 
among the priests of Rome. And in a short 
lime they seduced the people to believe, 
they ha I power to release the damned 
Person count }/,N. (7. F\>b.S//i, IS 10. from hell and place them In heaven. But 
Dear Bkethsen: I send you a small | recollect, they did not profess to have this 
mess out of the missionary pot, for pu'olica- i power at their first establishment under 
tion in the Primitive Baptist. the reign of Consiantin", but they grew by 

The missionaries have the bold impudence ' gradual steps under the cloak of religious 
to brand the Primitive Baptists with hold- benevolence; and their priests were educa- 
ing popish' principles; thev do this in order ted and sent to the different nations, 
to prejudice the minds of the young and until kings and emperors, and every nation 
rising generation against the Primitive and habitable isle, were brought under the 
■Uaplfsls, for they know that the Pi imi- j dominion of the pope and his diabolical 
five Baptists are the farthest fr mi popish priests. And the p'oOr saints of God, that 
doctrines or traditions, than any other de- , refused to support their diabolical systems 
nomination in America; while they, the 'and devil-invented plans, and refused to 
missionaries; are endeavoring to establish .acknowledge the divine supremacy of the 
i/,.- diabolical principles of popery in A- pope, were tortured and martyred in the 
nierici, which I shall endeavor to show | most cruel manner that could be invented 
>n the sequel of this mess. The first step j by those diabolical priests, who professed 
the church of R mie made from New Tes- I so much benevolence for mankind. 
lament prineiplets, was her establishment j They made human learning an essenti- 
law under the reign of Constantine the j a! qualification to the ministry, and soon 
The church hful been sustained by 
of God, through the 
instrumentality of his apostles and ministers 
of his own choosing and qualify ing, agiinst 
the rage of heathen idohlors, infidels, 
Bcri'oes and pharisees, doctors and lawyers, 
kiiV'S and monarchs; and while the church 
was under the protection of the spirit and 
grace of God alone, she flourished & main- 
tained the pure doctrine and discipline of 


the spirit and gra 

seduced the people to believe that human 
learning was very essential to the under- 
standing of the spiritual meaning of the 
word of God. In a short time it was con- 
sequently in a good degree withheld from 
the common people, and they held in 
ignorance and gross darkness; and seduced 
to believe, that every thing the pries'.s 
said was a divine command from heaven. 
But it came to pass that the kin^ of En- 



gland br ike (lie chain of popery, and gave- 
the beasi a deadly wound by the sword. 
Rev. 13th ch. Kit in process of time by 
means of colleges, the king of Fmgland 
healed the wound lie had made by the 
sword p,nd caused the beast to live, b} the 
establishment of tin popish trumpery in his 
church, such a-, infant sprinkling with the 
cross in their foreheads, tilfting pries's.&c*. 
&c. a number of tilings too tedious to men 
tioo in this piece. 

Now, America was under the British 
yoke, and our fathers were tributary to 
their priests, until it pleased God by the 
instrumentality of Washington & our fore- 
fathers, who had lonu; groaned under op 
pre-sion, to throw off the yoke of priest- 
craft and oppression by a revolution. And 
a republican form' of government was es 
tablished, and every individual tolerated to 
read the word of God, and worship ac 
cording to the dictates of his conscience, 
without being interrupted by th ur dog- 
matizing priests. But we recollect there 
were some in the time of the revolution, 
who were opposed to American freedom 
and the right of conscience. And they 
have been trying every plan they could de- 
vise from thai time till now, to undermine 
.our free institutions and put - the yoke of 
priestc'raft'On our hecks again; that same 
people have changed their name and dies-, 
and appear in different forms to deceive 
the people, till at irtig h they have 
commenced with Hie lodlsof popery under 
the cloak of benevolence, with '.heir theo- 
logical schobls. 

And in a circular published by the clan 
not long sioce, they professed to have the 
keys of the kingdom, and the salvation 
of souls is suspended on the sioek of lit- 
erature possessed by the preachers. The 
said circular was wrote by G. W. Purify, 
and submitted to a sVriail clan for inspection, 
which they adopted and published annexed 
to their minutes or periodical. In ifrhich 
circular they exclude the idea of divine 
teaching, with as strong emphasis as th- 
priests of Home ever did. They tell us 
that, the illiterate ministers will soon be 
discountenanced; for, say l hey, it is in the 
power of every young minister to get an 
education if they will, and if they will not, 
they musl abide by the consequences. 

Now, my reader, does not this smell of 
popery? They have erected their school at 
Wake Forest, after the old model of popery, 
where their teachers were called monks, 
.and their students friars. Jn Wake Forest 

synagogue, the)' have different grades and 
titles, where they sit exalting themselves 
above all that is called God, or worshipped. 
And they as God sitteth in the temple of 
God, showing themselves that they are 
God — to prepare and qualify youn^ preacli- 
er.s to go in their name and by their author- 
ity, pope like, to convert the heathen over 
to the ; r pernicious systems of theology, 
and place I hem in a two-fold worse state 
than they were before. 

We will now notice some of the in- 
gredients in the mess, which look like 
wild gourds: which should cause every 
lover of truth to cry out : There is death in 
the pot. Now notice, the money begged 
and teased from the public, to establish a 
Manual Labor School at Wake Forest, 
was carried on untlei the rums of benevo- 
lence, for the benefit of the poor ; that is, 
they pretended it was for the purpose of giv- 
ing poor children a common e location, in 
order to place them on an equably withjho 
wealthy. By coming under this garb, 
they have dereh e I the people and collected 
ih'eir mon'ey, and built their town, and es- 
tablished their school, and have become in- 
corporated bylaw. And beholtl they have 
turned this benevolent object into a ma- 
chine to prepare, and qualify, and mariu- 
facture young ministers of the gospel. 
For they tell us in plain language, that it is 
absurd to depend on God to qualify min- 
isters to preach his g >spel; and they know 
of no better means for the qualification of 
mhitsters, than to contribute more liberally 
to the Wake Fori st Institute. So we see 
money is the cause of the machine's mov- 
ing into Operation, which executes the n'e- 
eess'an qualification of the ihh)isters;*whi(.h 
they tell us God could not, oral least they 
tell us it is a'bsi'ird to depend on him alone. 
Thus they recommend that idol. irons insti- 
tute as superior' to the Clod of heaven. 

Again, they deny divine leaching, for 
they say, we necessarily have to come in 
contact with Roman Catholics and infidels, 
and an answer from the illiterate would be 
worse than no answer. By this langnrfgfo 
they manifest themselves to be infidels lop 
they discredit divine revelation. For Cod 
siys, 1 will give \ on a mouth and wisdom, 
thai all your adversaries shall not be able 
lo gainsay nor resist. And his ministers 
believe and trust him. A»ain, it is written, 
Cor. 1 ch. 19ih vs. : I will destioy the wis- 
dom of the wise, and bring to noihing the 
understanding of the prudent. And the 
27ih and 2Sj.h yersqs tells by what means-. 



ihe foolish things of the world to con- 
found ihe wise, weak tilings to confoun 1 
the mighty; and things that are despised, 
and tilings that are not, to bring to nought 
things that are, that no flesh should glory in 
his presence. 

Now. my friends, when I hear the mis- 
sionaries talk of coming in contact with 
iioman Catholics and infidels, and opposing 
Ihem, if. looks like satan reproving sin; 
for it is ob\iousto every intelligent minrl, 
(especially- thosb who are acquainted with 
church history,) tlv y are maintaining 
the very principles of popery and infidelity, 
and ail the diabolical principles of tyranny 
ami oppression under the cloak of benevo- 
olence; for by the same means other nations 
have been brought under the yoke of 
priestcraft and despotism. The priests of 
Rome professed lo have the keys of 
heaven and hell. Our mission priests 
of America, profess to have the keys of the 
kingdom, and their success in savingsouls 
is in propcriion to the amount of money 
and stock of literature possessed by the 
priests. And many blherthings, which show 
the mark of the bea-Jt, too tedious to men- 
lion in this piece, so plain that every in- 
telligent mind may discover the resem- 
blance to poperj- in our modern American 

0, ye people of America, ye friends of 
liberty, will you again suffer the youe of 
priestcraft, fastened on your necks, by Ihe 

kind unto me ever since I had a being. 
Now I could apolog-s^, but 1 heard a 
a man say once that they that are good at 
apologising, were not often good at any 
thing else. 1 am so well satisfied in read- 
ing ihe writings of so many in the Prim- 
iiive and Signs, that 1 ought to lay my 
pen down; but 1 read in the good Book, 
Christians of old spake ofren one lo another 
and a book of remembrance was kept. And 
I believe they are the very same yet, and 
always will be; for if I was turned 
and twisted about with every wind of doc- 
trine, 1 think 1 should not please God's 

'J he limes have of late altered very much, 
the reason is. money is gelling scarce and 
you all know how the missionaries will 
fare, if they do not get money, li puis me 
in mind of a boy, who once saw something 
that put hiro out of sorts; I asked him 
what it was like? he said it was just like, 1 do 
not know what. So I may say, "they know 
not neither will they understand. They 
walk on in darkness, all the foundations of 
the earth are out of course." The82 Psalm. 
I need not cite von to chapier and verse of 
any scripture, for you are so well taught. 
Our blessed Saviour told his apostles to pray 
the Lord of the harvest, that be would 
Send. more laborers into the harvest, &c. 
How different is the way and manner of 
sending preachers in these days. It re- 
minds me of Jeremiah of old; he was made 
diabolical plans of tyrants, under the cloak j to cry oui and say: "0 Lord, i know that 
of benevolence? 1 again call upon every the way of man is not in himself, it is 
friend of liberty, lo be guarded against I not in man that walketh to direct his 
priestcraft under Ihe cloak of missionary I steps, " 

benevolence.: for I believe they will resort I My dear brethren and friends, I could 
to any means thai is calculated to sap the tell yon a great deal, if 1 could see you; 
foundation of our free in.^tiiulioiis to aecu- 1 bul 1 cannot write as 1 would wish. I 
mulate civil authority to persecute; May J remember the Sirophenician woman, when 

the God of heaven res' ram them; may it be 
his good pleasure to break up the foun- 
tain of iniquity in their hearts, and renew 
tham by grace. May he bless and pre- 
serve our nation, and enable us to maintain 
our free institutions and worship him accor- 
ding to his word and will. 



Darlington District, So. Ca. 

February loth, 1840, 

Dear Hkf.thkbn in tiik Loud: I 

take my pen in my old withered band, that 

you may know 1 am alive through the 

sho heard of Je.Hts, came and fell at 
his feet and besought him, &e. The 
conversation that passed between them 
looks like humility on her part. And 
did he turn her avva) ? No, blessed he bis 
name, he turns none away, but granls their 
request that come in that way. 0, that 
the Lord may keep us at his feet. 
Hear his promise: "lie that goeth forth 
and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall 
doubtless come again with rejoicing, bring- 
ing his sheaves with him." 

The Primitive and Signs of the Times 
revive me many time-; but if the Lord 
in his providence would cause some of my 
Old School brethren to pay us a visit, I shall 

mercy of God, that has been gracious and glorify and praise the name of the Lord and 



be very thankful lo them also. My dear 
brethren and sisters, by this shall all men 
know thri t vo are my disciples, because 
ye love the brethren. I pray that wv may 
all have that grace that works by love 
and purifies the heart. When I look back 
near forty years ago, when the fear of bell 
u as no terror to me, brethren, I thought 1 
loved the Lord supremely, &. all bis people. 
Was that ;<l!? No. my desire was. that nil 
the human family should be saved, if it had 
been thewili of heaven. And 1 am now 
what I was then in sentiment. And I 
was a full blooded Old Si hool then, so 
I am \et. Though some have said thai 
the Primitive and Signs of I lie Times 
sprung from hell and would return there, 
1 know that hell with all its legions! could 
not teach men to tell the truth. 

My dear brethren, though llv.y call us 
hard shells, and iron jackets, and old hide- 
bound, gray headed, tight fisted Baptists, 
they do not knowwhai to think; but I think 
they would know, if they would look back 
and see what priestcraft and missionaries 
have. done. 1 pray the Lord, if it is his 
will, to oppn people's eyes that they may see 
what a situation they are in, before it is loo 
late. 1 fear 1 shall weary your patience, I 
am such an old bungler. If you can gath- 
er any thing out of my scattering thoughts, 
dp by it as seemelh light unto you. 1 was 
seventy-two the Sth day of January past, 
and if I go to that rest that is prepared for 
the people of God, I shall be at re-t and 
where my best kindred dwell. And you, 
my Old School brethren, although 1 never 
saw you, 1 think 1 am well acquainted 
with yon. And may that God that 
stood arid measured the earth, keep, 
guide and direct you and me as secineth 
him good. Farewell. 



Georgia, Heard county, } 
16 Dec. 1S39. 5 
Deai; Bketuhex: 1 have been reading 
your valuable paper lor the last year. It 
funis opposition in this country, yet 1 
Ltlieve it is gaining ground here. 

Nothing more at present. I assign my- 
self yours. JOHN STROUD. 

Limestone county, vllabama, ) 
December 251 h, 1839. \ 
Deah brethren Eeitous: 1 have been 
taking your paper the Primitive Baptist 

ever since last April, and I have read thenr 
with a great deal of pleasure and delight; 
and am bound to acknowledge, I have 
feasted on the doctrine and ideas advanced 
through that paper by many of the breth- 

As I am writing, find as I see no oth- 
er person has wroie from this section of 
counirv, 1 will give you a small sketch of 
the times here. Religion has become ve- 
ry popular in Ibis country, and preaching 
very high amongst t he missionaries. They 
want from five hun !ned to one thousand 
dollars per annum, and that paid ot subscri- 
bed in advance. 1 live in the bounds of 
Flint River Association, who at her session 
in 183S, declared non-fellowship with the' 
Missionary Sociely*and all its auxiliaries;- 
which has caused a split to take place in 
several churches. Three I think have 
dropped their correspondence entirely, and 
with several others from different Associa- 
tions, have constituted a new Association 
they call the Liberty Association. The 
church to which 1 belong, namely* Round 
Island, had a majority in favor- of the spec-' 
ulalofs, and joined the new Association, 
the pastor being one of that number; and 
left myself and about seven or eight others- 
thai would not go with them, who are Irv- 
ing to sustain the church in its primitive 
order, but in great weakness. 

Our last Association met and parted in 
peace, and 1 feel willing to trust the 
Lord to bring peace and better times am- 
ongst us. Since the split took place, about 
half our number have gone and are going 
away, which leaves us very weak; but I 
feel that I would rather live entirely by 
myself, than to live with those Arminian 
Baptists. They are inconsistent both in 
their ways and doctrine, they do not 
preach for money but will not preach with- 
out it. They say you cannot be saved by 
your work, but you cannot be saved with- 
out it. 

1 am no preacher, nor never expect to be; 
but if such as that is preaching the gospel, 
I acknoweledge I know nothing about it. 
1 call myself an Old Predestinarian Bap- 
tist, though so weak a one I hardly 
know wiiat 1 am. But I see a great 
many writers in the Primitive if they write 
their views they believejusl like I do. We 
have no preaching near us, only Arminian 
Baptists, Methodists, and Presbyterians. 
They are all the same with me. 1 believe 
the Methodists preach the most consistent 
doctrine; they say you can get religion 


and lose it <it pleasure; the others siv, you 
can genital pjeasure : and*can. not lose it; and 
I do think it is a bad rule that will not 
work both ivajs. 

I will conclude by subscribing myself, 
yours in love of the rrilth 



Jllabttma. .litlmt^n romil '//, ) 
Feh'ij D/'/i, 1810. 3 
Beloved Bhethkejn of the Old 
School faith and ordHk.: Through the 
kind hand id' providence 1 have been spi- 
re I to live out nearly three score years; 
and in the year eighteen hundred & twelve 
1 joined the Biptfst chi »ch. The Baptists 
at that tirne, and long since thai lime, .were a 
united people: if i met with a brother Dap-list 
in them clays, I could wiihout any tmidity 
speak to him in the language of a Baptist, j 
In them days 1 heard no talk abouj Old; 
School or New School, for all seemed to be 
one in Christ. There appeared lobeQuejLo'rdj i 
one faith, one baptism, one God and Father 
o^'er all, an I in all, and through all. And \ 
in them days the chmches were all in j 
peace one with another. Brethren could 
meet together -and sit together in loye; there' 
was none of the baneful and peace-break- 
ing news of the societies, which have crept 
in of late and destroyed the peace, and 
harmony thai once existed among breth- 

Dear brethren, I am an old man, and by 
my writings you will at oive discover that 
I am no scholar; for I say to you in truth, 
that I never had the benefit of more than ' 
three months schooling in my life. And 
1 will in my ignorance, say to any mission- 1 
ary or to any that advocate any of the socie- j 
tics or any of the institutions of the present 
day, that 1 will give the most learned and 
wisest of them twelve months and one day 
to find lliem or any part of them in the Old 
Book that is called the Bible. Or should 
Ihey think the time given to be too short, I 
willgiveihcm leave to double the time 
and I say they cannot do it then But 
should they succeed in their undertaking, 
1 will say to them that my name is Thpr- 
ontou Iiice, I live in Autauga county in the 
State of Alabama, three miles below 
Washington, and if any should succeed in 
finding them on record in the good old 
Book that is called the Bible,! would thank 
them for their information, for 1 profess to 
be an enquirer alter truth. 

Dear brethren, as above stated the Bap- 
tists were once a united people; but, Lord, 
what, what shall 1 say of them now? They 
are like the people were in the days of Josh- 
ua, they have turned. their backs before 
their enemies. Brethren., the wise man 
tells us, that Which hath been is now. We 
have a strange sort of Baptists in Alabama; 
they put me in mind of people in former 
days, Jeremiah, 5 eh ip. ver.7: How shall [ 
pardon them for this? thy children have 
forsaken me, and have sworn to them that 
are no gods. When I ha I fed them to the 
lull, they then committed adultery and 
assembled themselves by troops in the har- 
lots" houses. Sth vers.- : They were as fed 
horses in ttic mornings, every one neighed 
after h : s neghbor's wife. Chap. 13, verse 
27ih: I have seen thine adulteries and 
thy neighings,. the lewdness of thy whore- 
dom, and mine abominations on the hills 
in the fields. Woe unto thee, Jerusalem I 
wilt t!i )u not be/made clean? when shall it 
once be? 

Tins much 1 can say of some that arc 
called Baptists in Alabama, after neighing 
and preaching round the altar or anxious 
seats or benches, tint they are not unfruit- 
ful, for they have produced a large brood of 
young colls (or in other words) they have 
lately gqttena number of children in the 
church,) which seems to be the effects of 
every one's neighing after his neighbor's 
wife. For in some of their meetings, which 
they call protracted meetings, all denomina- 
tions joined together, and would take dav 
about from one harlot's house to another". 
And when we see such things as these, my 
brethren, we need not think it strange if a 
young generation should be produced 
that cannot speak the Jews' language. 

In a short time after this family of child- 
ren were taken into the church, some of 
them became like those spoken of by our 
Lord in the eleventh chap, of Matthew, 16 
and 17th verse: But whereunto shall 1 li- 
ken this generation? It is like unto chil- 
dren, sitting in the market and calling 
to their fellows and saying, we have piped 
unto you and ye have not danced, &c. 

But, beloved brethren, I think that 1 can 
say in truth with Paul, none of these things 
move me. And when I see and hear of 
so many clear brethren, scattered over 
the United Stales, when 1 read their com- 
munications in my little paper called the 
Primitive Baptist, it does my very soul 
good. And I will say to my old bro. Til- 
lery of North Carolina, (hough mountains 



arid waters divide us from each other, thnt 
1 do from my heart agree with you in your 
request in the 1st No., vol. 5 and page 13 
of the Prim. Baptist. I feel to stand with 
you there, my old bro., and 1 say the same 
to all my old fashioned brethren, whom I 
love in the truth; for when I read yoar 
rommunications one to another, I think 1 
cm understand your language. But then 
I find <ome that are called Baptists, who 
live in this part of the world, whose lan- 
guage I do not understand; for they are 
like the pilgrims thai old John Bunvan 
describes in the Pilgrim's Progress; when 
they had gotten on tlie enchanted ground, 
the mist of darkness became so great that 
they could not see each other, so that 
they had to feel for one anolher by words 
(for thev walked not by sight ) And it is 
even so in this day, for when I meet with 
a strange Baptist, I do not know how to 
speak to him, for I find that 1 have to feel 
of him softly by words before I can take 
the liberty to venture up to him for fear 
of treading on his Iocs. Brethren, I think 
that old Jeremiah had a view of the present 
day; he speaks in this wav: how is the gold 
become dim, how is the fine gold changed, 

My dear brethren, may the Lord bless 
you all, and may your feet be ever shod 
with the preparation of the gospel of peace, 
so that you all may be able to serve God 
acceptably, is the prayer of your unworthy 
brother in Christ. Amen. 


Kerner.svillc, N. C. Feb. 1840. 
Bretiiken P^ditors: 1 have been read- 
ing your paper, the Primitive Baptist, for 
about six months, and am well pleased 
with it. I am much pleased to hear of so 
many brethren in different parts of the U- 
n i led States contending for the faith once 
delivered to the saints. No more at pre- 
sent, but remaining yours In gospel bonds. 



North Carolina.—.). Biggs, .Sen. Willi 'amst 'on, 
R. M. G. Moore, Germanton. VV. \v. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washwgtmi James Sou- 
therland, Warrenfon. Alfred Partin, Raleigh. 
Charles Mason, RorJ/oro'. James Wilder, An- 
derson's Store. Beuj. Rynum,Speigklh Bridge. H. 
Avera, Averasboro' . Parharn Packet, Ricklands. 
J.H. Keneday, Chalk Leue\. 13. Temple, Wake co. 
Geo. vv. McNeely, Leaksville. VVm, H. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, Smilhfidd. 
James II. Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Fruit, San- 

dy Creek. L. B. Bennett, Heaihpitte. Alfred El- 
lis, Strabane, Cor's Canaday, Cravensville. Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creek, J. Lamb, Camden 
O.H. A. B. Bains, Jr, Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tillery, Liplnnd. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris W ; ii- 
kerson,We.^ Point. Isaac Alderman, Moose's Creek/ 
James Miller, Milton Park. 

South Carolina. — Wm. Hardy, Saluda Wilt 
lames iiembree, Sen. Anderson C IT. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. B. Lawrence, Effi. %haw> 
James Burris, Sen.. 'Bold Spring. William S. 
Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi Lee, Dlackvitle An- 
drew Westmoreland, Cushville. James' 3, Kirk r 
land, Four Mile Branch.. Ransom Hamilton, AU 
ken. Jnlin S. Rogers, OmwsviUe, Marshal Mc- 
Graw, Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cookham's. 
GkoRGIa.— William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
I len Cleveland, McDojiough. John McKenney, For- 
' syth. Antho ly Holloway, Lagrange, P , "Si. Cal- 
houn, Knoxv'dle. R. Reese, Bulohlon. Thomas 
Amis and David w.' Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than \ T eei, James Hpl lings worth and Stephen 
Gasteflow, Macon. Charles P. Hans-ford,, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bowdoin,./2 lairsville. R. To'ler and .las. M. Uock- 
more, Upaloie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Gin ty, Fort Gaines. John i.iny den, Franklin. P. 
H. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, T'non- 
aston. William Bovvden, Union Valley. Ezra Mc- 
Crary, Wurrcnton. Wiley Pearceand Prior Lewis 
Cairo. Tnhn Lassp.tter, Vernon. B. Pace, Van 
Wert. L. Peacock, CassviWe. Vachal D.Whatley, 
Bamesville. Alex. Garden and Thomas C, Trice, 
Mount, Morne. Elias 0. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt 
J. G. Wiutringham, Halloca. William Mi 
Amos, GrecnviWe. Randolph Arnold, Lati- 
mer's Store. Thomas J. Bazemore, CMiiion. 
Jonah Stovall, Aq'uilla. G. P. Cannon, CuWoden- 
vi]]e, Jason Grier, Indian Springs. William 
Mc.Elvy, Altapulgus. Furna Ivey, Mil'edgcvillc. 
William Garrett, Cation River, Jesse Moore, 
George Herndon and John Hardie, Tr- 
winton. Leonard Pratt, Whitcsville. Ed- 
ward Jones, Decatur. Thomas J, Johnson, New- 
nan. Israel Hendon, S,'u\o. Robert B. Mann, 
C it esnut Grove. Win. Tippit, Cedar Branch. A. G. 
Simmons, Hickory Grove, John Lnwhon, Che- 
nuba. Joh'ri Herington, Welborn's Mills t 
James P. Ellis, PinevlWe, French Haggard, 
Athens. Henry Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Valley, .losiah Gresham, White Wall. Daniel 
O'Neal, Finvlton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro' i 
J.B.Morgan &.B. Pi Rouse, Friendship, Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fair Pluy, John Wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stew 'art, Hootensville, R, S. Hamrick, Carrol/ton. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, B\akc\y, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
TarvcrsviWe, John Stroud, Kendall. James Scar- 
borough, Statcsborough, Young T. Standifer, 
Mulberry Grove. Robert R, Thompson, Cenfre- 
ville. Young Ti Standifer, Mulbeiry Grove, .hi- 
red Johnson, Troupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansvil/e. Edmund Si Chambless, Stallings 
Store. James w. Walker, Mar/borough. Edmund 
Dumas, JohnstonviWe. David Rowell, Jr. Groo- 
versviWe. Joel Colley, Covington, W. w. Pool, 

Alabama. — L.B. Moseley, Cahawba. A. Kea- 



ton, McConieo, John Blackstoiie, La Fayette. W. 
w. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wm. w. Walker, Liberty //,'/'. Dau'l 
GaiTbrd, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Show H II. 
John G. Walker, Milton. Henry Williams, //«- 
vuna. Samuel (-lay, Mount Ildiron. James 
Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Church //ill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leigh/on. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
ton. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w. 
iVirris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Fern/, 
William Talley, Mount Mnriah, Graddy Her. 
rincr, Clayton. G. w. Jeter, Pint La/a, Samuel 
C.Johnson, Pl'.asanl Grove. William Crutcher, 
Hunisville. \\ illiam II. Cook, I'ickcn-ville. 
Seaborn Haiiifick, PlaritersoiUe. Willi. ;m Mel- 
ton, Bluff Port. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Wm. 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rufns Daniel, Jamesfom An- 
derson w. Billiard, Tasgegee. Frederick ilines- 
Gaston, Z. Johns, Tinrm Ell McDonald, Pains- 
iiille. A. Mitchell, Carter's. Hill. William Pow- 
ell, YoungsviWe. John Brown, Wacoocoi Silas 
Monk, llorsk Mae Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville- David Treadwell 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory-. Sam , l T.Ouvn, 
Argus, Joseph H.Holloway, H izle Green. Luke 
R. Simmons, Troy, Jesse Lee, Farmersville, 
William S. Armstrong, Louhvide. Mark Porter, 
Demopolis, Henry Adams, Motnl Willing. Joel 
H. Chambless, Lowsvi'lle. Elliot Thomas, W.l- 
liamsion. F. Picket't, China Grove, James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M Pearson, Dadevi lie; W. 
J. Sc)(o.'<\f, yVetnuipka, John I). Hoke. Jackson- 
ville, Elijah ft, Berry, Cobles Store. Willis 
Cox, Souktehaiehic. James Searcy, Irivinton. 
Hazael Liltlefield, Ten Mauds. J. hi, w. PoJlorri-, 
FranUWn, Philip, May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Gn,jr, A. \) Cooper, Wi\- 
Ylomrfcni, John Fiarrell, Missou i. James K, 
Jacks, Eliion. 11. Miry Hilliard, BAVville. John 
A. Miller, Oakfuskee. Durham Kelly, Alexan- 
dria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Athens., William 
Th. anas, Prospect Ridge. John Bishop, Ju'n'r. 
Crocket tsoi lie. James Gray, Ctitcta. 

TBJfSESSSft'. — A. V r Farmer", Blair's' Ferry': Mi- 
chael Burkhaller, Chcekxvitle, Tim's K. Clrrjga'n, 
S'mitli'sr^ 'to mis, W . IvPopc, Philadelphia. Aaron 
fJomnlorf, Somernille. Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iran Works. Asa Newport, Meesville. James 
Maulden, Van Daren. A. Burroughs, W«/;.y. Wm. 
Groom, Jackson. Sfon B<iijS,'Pkrt.c Forks, John xf 
SiyringeT, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbroughj Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Seriervil/e. i 
Thos. B. Creates, Lynchburg, C.T. Kohols, Mifflin. I 
Aaron Tison, Medon. Levi Kirkland and George 
Turner, IVaverly. Arfner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Shadysville, Pleasant A. Witt, Check's i 
>i Roads. J, Cooper, Union-mile. Michael Bran- 1 
son, Long Savannah. .las. H. Mrtlloway, Hazel | 
Green. William McBee, Old Toiun Creek, Ben- 1 
jamin w. Harget, ('licrryvil/e, 

Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Spring* 
Thos Holland, Dailville WorshamMann Columbus. 
Henry Petty, Zion. Wm. Muddleston, Thomaston. 
Nathan Trrns, Kosciusko, Jonathan D.Cain, IVa- 
ferford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 
JlodrreB, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin K. Morris, 
WheeYing. Simpson Parks, Loclthari's Store, 
Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, JVnx. Ringo, UnmiMon. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. EJiu'd Bueman 

and Thomas It, Dixon, Micon. John Ehviri,- 
j LirAOiorne, Herhert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston, till Miller and Micajab. 
Cronshaw, Marion. Win. Warren, Dekalb, C. 
Nichols, Slump Bridge. Woolen Hill, Cookrofllei 

Florida. — James Alderman and P, Blount, 
China Hill. David Callaway, Chirr y Lake. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankst.on, Nu'rburyville. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greeiiiboro\ Uriah Stevens, 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri, — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand Vieict 
James Marshall) Salem. Thomas \v. Martin, 
East Nehon. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzman, New Harmony. I- 
i saac w, Denman, Gallatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Philanthropy. John 
B. Moses, German/on, 

KiNTucKY. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Walls, ConeliusvA.e. 

Virginia. — Komuel C. Gilbert, Sydflprsville. 
Rudolph Rorer, Btrger's .S7o-e. John Clark, Fre- 
dericksburg. Win w. VV est, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifax C, If, George w. Sanford, 
Harrisonburg". .Insse. Lankford, Bowers's, Eli- 
jah Fiansbrough, SometviWe. Wilson Davenport, 
White House, 

Dis. Columbia. — Cilhert Beebe, Alexandria. 

Pennsylvania. — Ilezekiah West, South Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. Nathan Everitt, 
Ch illicoats 'Polon. 

Wisconsin Ter. — M. w. Darnall, Blue River. 


A. J. Guytortj Si 

.I:io. Your.i ms, 1 

.losiih Jone-, 5 

Henry A vera, 4 

Rufus Daniel, 5 

Jesse McCain j 1 

John L. Simpson, 2 

Joseph iSynnm, 1 

.fonathan Eilis, 1 

Jas. ii. Woodard, 1 
N 'than Tims, 10 

Wm, Steadham, 1 

Ilosoa Laneir, 2 

Jonathan Holmes, 5 

Moses Melton, 1 

Green Ingram, 1 

Eii-dm. Ingram. 1 

Y.T. Stancliferj; 
F. Svvint, 
James liiggSj 
Isaac Tiilery, 
1 v"v'it). II. Vann, 
, ^^'m. M. Amos, 
E/.ekiel Mai lev, 
R. VV. Carlisle, 
Wm. H. Cook, 
James Gray, 
Jas Brims, Sen 
David WPatman, 10 
Thomas L Rol)erts,5 
Kdm S Cliaml)lcss,5 
Coorge Moore, 5 
E Imurr! Dumas, 6 
John Kniit, 2 








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SATURDAY, MARCH 23. 1840, 

No. 6. 


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enquire whether this minority would gd 
wilh the majority in sustaining the iesolu- 
tions, and made a move to that effect; 
and the enquiry being made, there were 
found nine in that minority; and their re- 
quest was, for the church to bear with 
them until November meeting, which was 
agreed to, and their names entered on the 

Georvjn, Oglethorpe county, 
February H/h, 1S40. 
Dear brkthv.en Editors: Permit an 
bid man, now in the seventy-third year of j church book as members under church can- 
his age, to address you a few linos in self | ^ u re. 

defence, as there is a lving spirit gone out) Now, dear brethren, one objection to 
into the wo. Id; and you know, dear breth- 1 said resolutions by an old brother was, he 
rem, that lies uncontradicted oflen pass for had children who were missionaries, and 


I am a member of Bt£ Creek church, 

they deprived him of ibe liberty of com- 
muning with his own children. 1 myself 

and have acted as clerk of the same more; stand in,h - 3 same situation, but in religious 
than twenty years; and January, 1S37, we [affairs I wish to know no one after the 
as a church' unanimously agreed to thri fol-j fiesh - . VVith tho s:,me degree of propriety 
lowin"' resolutions: " Lot might have refused to come out of Sod- 

_ ° _, , , . , |om. Another said, he had no intention of 

First Reso vod that we drop our corres- , contribu , in?; any lhing to the miss i na. T 
pondence and fellowship with all churcfae*u a|we| but d for , he liberty of Con- 

or members of churches that belong to the 1 sc!ence t0 do ihat vvh[ch he never in(cnd _ 
State Convention fcrmss.onary societies/) j C( , |Q (]o _ A third objection was, they pro- 

or thai vindicate their cause. 

Second, We will not countenance any 

hibited those who supported the inslitu- 

, j lions from entering Charges against our 

preacher who sha ,11 travel establishing so- j member to that , e am , * as , ha ^ 

cieties for the collection of money, or who formt . rl , aid ifwe 01d Schoo1 Baptists 
may h.mself be collecting money to sup- , mafcfe % a ,. ule to ,. ece[ve ch g ^ ^^ 
port any institution whatever. j mony from mi s S h>nary churches, there 

Last Angtfstj Henry L. Edwards moved I would not be an Old School minister in the 
that said resolutions be erased from our j State of Georgia, who would not be put- 
church book, lie obtained a second,' and : down as in disorder in less than three 
the brother Moderator put the question to (years. 

'he church & the resolutions were sustained I But to return 10 my fust subject. We 
by a large majority. And we supposing i had withdrawn from Ihe Association, 
the case was settled, there was nothing' which was to meet on Saturday before the 

more said about it at that time. But be 
fore our next meeting, this minority made 
it a business to go from house to house ex- 
posing said resolutions and proselyting 
such as they could influence. At next 
conference 1 thought it would be right to 

second Sunday in last October; and those 
who opposed our resolutions had increased 
their number to twenty-five, and represen- 
ted themselves to the Association under 
the name of Big Creek church, and were 
received cs ouch. The next Saturday, be- 



ing our meeting; in course, I will give you 
a small extract from the charch book: 

October Ihe 19th, 1S39, after divine ser- 
vice sat in conference, brother Lacy mode- 
rator. Opened a door for the reoepiion of 
members, received none; then proceeding 
to other business, and finding a part of this 
church having represented themselves to 
the Association under the name of Big 
Creek church: It is therefore resolved, that 
we withdraw from them, also including 
those nine members who stand in opposi- 
tion to our church resolutions, which de- 
clare anonfellowship with the institutions 
of the day, whose names on record in 
our former minutes — then concluded, Sac. 

Now, dear brethren, a packet of charges 
g^ainst brother John Lacy had been pre- 
sented to the church from various sources. 
But were rejected by the church, not being 
in order. .Brother Lacy said the same 
time, some of the charges he never hear 1 of 
before, and no man contradicted the asser- 
tion. However, they gut brother Lacy 
published in the Minutes of the Association 
and the Christian Index, apart of which 
reads as follows; 

For many charges of falsehood, prevari- 
cation and ion, h iVe been brought 
against him, all of which has been refused 
to be acted upon by the church, until a 
large majority of the church as you may 
see, have declared a non-fellowship with 
the conduct of a little minority, including 
John Lacy. 

We will notice the Minutes of thg As- 
sociation of 1S3S. Big Creek, total num- 
bers, 113: there were five dismissed, two 
dead, and three baptised, which leaves 
109; take 25, the large majority from 109, 
and it leaves 84, the little minority. In 
December, these 25 excluded brother Lacy 
and had 25 left; a branch in ariihmelie I 
never learned. This large majority, as 
they call themselves, appointed a commit- 
tee to demand of me the church books, also 
to call on brother Amis for the Bible anil 
hymn book. 'I 'he church books wfcre put 
in my possession upwards of 20 years ago, 
containing the constitution and acts of the 
church, from Ihe 5th day of June, 1S01, to 
the pnsent time; and I thought they had 
no more right to them, than the Philistines 
had lo the Ark of the Lord. 1 then-fore 
refused to give them up, withoutsome bet- 
ter authority could be produced than they 
were in possession of. Brother Amis, being 

deacon of Ihe church, bought the Bible and 
hymn book himself; at.'d ifany paid anv part 
of the price but himself, 1 do not know if. 
He made a kind of desk in the pulpit, 3nd 
fixed a lock to it at his own expense; in 
which the hooks were kept. And ;it Jan- 
uary meeting, we found an advertisement 
on the meeting house door in these words: 

Watch, therefore, as well as pray. Be- 
hold, I come as a thief in the night. 

At the time of day for worship, the 
brother went as usual to take out the books, 
and fuuod I ho desk broke open and '.he 
books and vessels for the communion all 
taken away. Who done it we do not 
know, but can freely give ihem up, provi- 
ded i hey make a right use of them. There 
are Bibles plenty in Augusta, and 1 hawe 
no doubt but the brother that bought that, 
is yet able and willing to buy another. 

Now to conclude. Dear brethren, we 
are a poor and afflicted people, and have 
much of this world's wisdom to contend 
with; but 1 hope our trust is in ihe Lord, 
and thai the weapons of our warfare are 
not carnal. Dear brethren, if you see pro- 
per to publish this, do so; but if you think 
it would be any injury lo the cause of 
truth, cast it aside and ! will try to get a- 
long as well as I c;m, the few days I have 
to remain in this world of confusion. I 
therefore come to a close, hoping you will 
consider me as one of those whom you per- 
mit lo subscribe themselves as I do now, 
a brother in tribulation. 



Alabama, Monroe conn///, > 
29 ih Jati'riy, 1840.' £ 
Deaii Brethren: 1 beg leave to iniio- 
duce myself to you, &thro' your excellent 
paper 'o all that read ihem. It lias long 
been discovered, thai there were two kinds 
of Baptists in this part of the country. 
When the mission subject was first intio- 
d.ucecl among us, it had ihe appearance of 
oneofihe most beautiful creatures on earth; 
its plea benevolence, Ihe erbjecls in deep 
distress, sunk into a slate of degradation and 
wretchedness, worse conditioned lhan the 
brute, because possessed of an immortal 
soul and must wail forever and ever in a 
boundless eternity. TheChristian, knowing 
that to sny, depart and be ye fed and be. ye 
clothed was not enough, an appeal eloquent- 
ly made to the chuiches, full of sympathies 



could not al such a time as this be made in 
vain. Tliu-y getting I heir ends accomplish- 
ed, and we engaged in the most laudable 
undertaking that ever occupied the mind of 
man. nay, worthy of God himself, viz: the 
salvation of sinners. The brethren were 
generally hopeful, until moneys collected 
for various purposes on saered promises 
pledged, that each man's money should go 
to the place of his choice, was taken by a 
State Convention and given to a man of 
their choice, in open violation of repeated 
promises made from the puipii. The 
next thing was a threat, that all that did not 
continue to give should be excluded; & the 
next was, electioneering to gain strength to 
execute the threat. And this la*M produced 
the most wretched state of things imagina- 
ble. And as temporising any longer was 
thought Useless, the brethren of six 
ehurches resolved to come out from among 

At one of the above named churches, 
I think that the dragon and beast and the 
false prophet wete well represented in the 
persons of three ministers, that attended as 
was said to blow up the meeting. The 
dragon roared most hideously, but was not 
permitted to be read, though several of his 
friends drew their knives. The above 
named six churches have formed themselves 
into an Association, assisted by a presbytery 
composed of brethren Brown, Miller and 
Sailer, Primitive Baptists, and held their 
session at Antioch church, Conecuh county, 
Ala. Their next session is to be held at Sa- 
lem church, Monroe county, Ala., to com- 
mence on Friday before the fourth Lord's 
day in September next, at which lime 
and place us many Primitive Baptists as 
can, are earnestly requested to attend. And 
we trust that the great ticad of the church 
will put it into the hearts ol ssveral of his 
ministers to attend with us, as the labor- 
ers are few in this part of the country. 

Yours in gospel bonds. 



Wilkinson county, Georgia, £ 
Nov. 20/ h, IS 39. ^ 
Beloved Bretjiricn: My mind has 
been animated, when reading the many 
communications from different parts of 
the United States, all which seem to unite 
in one common cause of defending truth 
and exposing the errors of the missionary 
system of Arminian Baptists, who have de- 

parted from the word of God, and are 
teaching for doctrines the commandments 
of men. So reading on, 1 found two let- 
ters wrote by brother Daniel Gafford, Ala- 
bama, wherein he told of the gone-by hup- 
py days which my soul remembers very 
well; and telling the names of a number 
of the old soldiers of the cross, who 1 had 
so often heard preach; which brought to 
my mind the names of many mere who 
were famous preachers of the gospel, a:;d 
all peace and love amongst them. So I 
thought, though I was unlearned and igno- 
rant, 1 must write to my brethren to let 
them know that there was such a creature 
in the world, rejoicing in the hope of the 
glory of God. 

Some of thesei communications brought 
to my mind the days of my espousal, when 
my soul embraced the religion of Jesus. I 
at that time lived it) Warren county, & be- 
came a member of the Long Creek church. 
Not long after this, missionary began to 
sound through the land. I heard it, and 
heard it again; but it never appeared to be 
the joyful sound to me. My mind got 
perplexed about it. One day 1 asked uncle 
A. Jones his thoughts upon the subject. He 
told me his thoughts freely, and in the close 
of his remarks iie said: Adam, whoever 
lives to see the lime come, will see this 
missionary business make a complete di- 
vision in the Baptist denomination; for the 
main-spring of missions is money, which 
does not suit the go-pel declaration. The 
remarks suited my views, and 1 believed 
the prophecy. 

I then moved into the purchase and set- 
tled in tho county where 1 now live. 
This purchase look the entire fork of the 
Oconee and Ockmulgee rivers, making 
ten counties. There were soon churches 
enough constituted to form an Association, 
which was constituted and named Ocmul- 
gee. The church increased, the space be- 
in; - ; too large for one Association, the five 
lower counties came into convention, pe- 
titioned for a new Association, which was* 
granted and constituted, and called Ebe- 
nezer. So we prospered on awhile, and 
became a considerable body of more than 
twenty churches, all in peace and love. 

But abs! the missionary fever began to 
rage. They attacked us to embrace their 
schemes, but we had a strong majority in 
our body and kept them out. But several of 
our preachers who were men of some influ~ 
ence, took the. fever & joined with the mis- 
sionarj- party, &, were ready at every turn to 



help them to get us (o embrace their men- 
made institutions. But we still had a 
majority against them, and so we lived to- 
gether for mnny years. We got so ti- 
red of the confusion and of their false doc- 
trine, we felt determined ^o live vvith 
them no longer. S'o at our session in the 
year of our Lord 1835, a few churches 
wrote a declaration of non-fellowship in 
our letter?, with all the institutions of 
the (by, benevolent so called, with their 
members, supporters, and advocates. So 
we finally separated at this meeting. And 
;>ere my eyes saw the prophecy of my im- 
<gle fulfilled; which was 1 believe about 
twenty-five years before its fulfilment. 

There are ten churches which have come 
out and separa'ed ourselves from the mixed 
multitude, and have got all those who 
?/ere taken with the leprosy out of our 
eamps, and expect to let them stay out till 
the Lord cleanses ihem. And we stili hope, 
ihot there are sornC who will be cleansed 
and return into the camp as Myrain did. 

Our last meeting was a pleasant season; 
.One newly constituted church joined in 
union with us, which makes us eleven in 
number; which contain about '147 mem- 
bers, who appear all to be of one mityl, 
believing salvation is of the Lord. We 
hear no sermons now about Bible, t^art, 
& temperance societies; nor about Judson 
and his wife, with all their sufferings; and 
in the application to their doctrine, wis!) 
every body had Mrs. Judson's memoirs to 
read. When f heard such doctrine preach- 
ed, I thought to myself, I want Judson 
and his wife to hive all the honor due to 
them, if any; but one thing I knew, they 
never suffered on Mount Calvary for my 
tuns, nor will all their sufferings ever save 
one soul. 

Beloved brethren, I rejoice in one 
thing; we have no running beggars a- 
mongst us now, for the hirelings have 
all fled, and the missionary beast or well 
has caught them, and the sheep .ire 
scattered. Butfear not, the Lord will gath- 
er his flock again, and give them pnstors 
after his own heart. Yet they boast of their 
superiority in numbers, and having the 
most of the learned and talented men with 
them; but when *ve come to serinture tes- 
timony, both these points stand against 
them. Kor Christ's (lock is always re- 
presented in scripture as a small flock, and 
most I} 7 of the poor and ignorant people. 
Mark his condescension into the world — 
bt'./l^mt poor, born of poor parents; there 

'-vas m room in the inn for them, they foorc 
shelter in a stable. Here the Prince of Pence 
made his appearance, was wrapt in swad- 
dling clothes & laid in a manger. God sent 
down heavenly messeng'rs to bear the joy- 
ful news to earih, & where were they sent? 
to the rich and great men of the earth? 
No, they were sent to humble shepherds, 
who were keeping wa'ch over their flocks 
by night. About this lime wise inen came 
from the east, saying: Where is he*that' is 
born king of theJews? At this neus Herod' 
was troubled, and as he thought laid a sure 
plan to take his life; hut when the wise men 
found him, they fell down and worshipped 
him, & presented to him gifts, gold, frank- 
incense, myrrh. When this was done, God 
warned Joseph to take the young cr|Hd 
and his mother and flee into Eg\ pt. Whi n 
Herod saw he was mocked of the wise men, 
he 1 -iid another plan to make sure of li is life ; 
and sent forth an army to slay ali the chil- 
dren in Bethlehem and all the coast there- 
of, from two years old and under. But God 
disappointed him in all his plans, Jesus was 

We hear but little more of him until 
the day of his baptism, when he came from 
Galilee to Jordan, to be baptised of John. 
Here we see a display of the three divine 
persons in the G'odnead; when he was bap- 
tised he went straightway out of the wa- 
ter, the heavens were opened, the spirit de- 
scended like a dove and lighting upon him; 
and lo, a voice from heaven saying, this 
is my beloved Son, in whom I am well 
pleased. Here appeared to be an hour of re- 
joicing. But what do we hear toesl? Then 
was Jesus led up of the spirit in'o the wil- 
derness, to be tempted of the devil. Here 
we find him forty days fasting and in 
temptations by the devil; but he came out 
virtuous. The devil himself got as much 
deceived as did Herod, his grand agent. 

Where do we bear of him next? In the 
assemblies of the great and tich men of iho 
e.irlhf, riding in some fine carriage or on 
some fine horse? No we find him on foot 
going about amongst the poor about the sea 
of Gallilee, calling some fishermen and oth- 
ers to he his disciples, lie advanced a sys- 
tem of religion which was so contrary to the 
religionists of that day, they tried with all 
their craft to destroy him. But this they 
could not do, but they poured all man- 
ner of contempt on him, that the malice 
of wicked men could invent. They say, 
this man is not of God, because he keepeih 
not the Sabbath day. They say, he is 



wad and hath a devil, why hear ye hirr? 
They say, he casteth out devils by the 
prince of devils. Now hear what Jesus 
saith unto his disciples: If they do these 
things in the green tree, what will they 
do in the dry? and if they hate you, they 
hated me before they did you. And 
a&ain he says: Ye shall be hated of all men 
for my name sake; hut there shall not a hair 
■of your head perish. In your patience pos- 
sess ye your souls. 

For, my beloved brethren, the good 
things that Jesus has promised for his peo- 
ple are not of this world, as some vainly 
suppose, for he says: My kingdom is not 
of this world, and ye are not of (his world 
as I am not of this world. Therefore, we 
look for a better world,- where our inherit- 
ance is laid up for us; and it is incorrupti- 
ble and undented, and fadeth not away, 
and reserved in heaven. And Jesus has 
prayed to his Father, saying: I will that 
they also whom thou hast given me, be 
with me where 1 am, that they may be- 
hold my glory. 

Beloved brethren, it is enough. Let us 
love Jesus and show our love to him, by 
keeping his commandments and keeping 
ourselves from idols. Amen. 


stitution men, wherever they have the 
power. There is to my view a great simi- 
larity between the whore of Babylon and 
the soft-shell Baptists of the present day. 
If they had lived in Solomon's day, he 
would probably have said the horse-leech 
had three daughters. 

The Convention of Mississippi has re- 
solved to have the New Testament transla- 
ted so as have a Baptist Testament, to put 
down all opposition and to bring about 
the millenium, as quick as possible. 
Here is an extract from a report of a com- 
mittee of the convention. 

"When we contemplate the rapid ad- 
vancement of the present age in eve- 
ry possible improvement in the liberal 
arts, from the learned professions down 
to the most humble pretensions, and find 
the same general knowledge and con- 
stant thirst for information, we cannot hes- 
itate a moment in deciding what qualifi- 
cations the ministers should have, who are 
to teach the doctrines and precepts of the 
word of God. It is a fact well attested, 
that in proportion as the ministry keeps 
pace with the progress of education, so is 
the moral influence of that education of a 
salutary nature; and as knowledge is power, 
the moral bearing of an enlightened minis- 
try is incalculable." 

Then goes on to speak of their prospects 
"j j for manufacturing ministers, Which they say 
Feb. 18/h 1840 \ are promising. Without commenting on 
Brethren Editors: The Primitive 'the above, 1 shall close by saying, I do not 
Baptist is spoken of in derision by some believe Christ sulfered in vain. I believe 
of its opponents, because it has no one man [bis people were eternally saved, and that 
as Editor; but as the paper was not inten- j he will never lose one of them. Neither 
ded to please every bodv, (for few are do 1 believe the great sympathy fur the 
pleased to be told so plainly their faults.) heathen will add one to the number. May 


Kosciusko, Mississippi, 


I think it is conducted on pure republi- 
can principles, and is an excellent arrange- 
ment to prevent backbiting under ficti- 
tious names; which is common in the Ar- 
menian alias missionary papers. 

There is so much said in this time abo'it 
contributions fur the thousand and one 
benevolent institutions, thnt it seems (here 

God p 

reserve our religious 




Georgia, Dekalb county, 
Ftbruary 6th, 1840. 
Dear Brethren: 1 must say som> V.. ., 
is a wish with the advocates thereof to im- about our ups and downs in Hardiman'fl 
press,]he world with the idea, that their church, for the last twelve months. Tba 
salvsEvttjn depends thereon. It is ceitain- Arniinians have been lugging for the s! i. p- 
ly the wish of the conventionists to make skin, and finally have peeled eff the tail, 
Wiiat they call religion popular. The and left us and constituted a church in 
church of R«me never did succeed as they about one mile and a half cf us, to the num- 
wished, until they made their creed pop- ber of eleven or twelve. They went out 
ular and fashionable. The church of from us, hut I must leave it to the Lord 
Rome excluded all whopretended to deny i to judge whether they were of us or not, 
the authority of the pop*; so with the in- j They have got two young missionaries *o 



feed them with soft corn, as their shells are 
soft and tender and they cannot endure 
sound docfrine; hut mustheapto themselves 
teachers having itching ears, and will turn 
away their ears from the truth and be turn- 
ed unto fables. 

Dear brethren, I do believe the work 
is the Lord's, for what do we hear him sav- 
ing: All power is given unto me in heav- 
en and in earth. And further he says: 
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my 
word shall not pass away. And again: 
No man can come lo me except the Father 
which sent me draw him, and I will raise 
him up at the last day. And again: All that 
the Father giveth me shall come to me, and 
he that comelh to me 1 will in no wise cast 
out. Therefore, having so great a cloud of 
witnesses, let us try as much as in us lies, 
to take the exhortation of old Paul to Phil- 
ip, 2d chap. 13th to 15ihvs. inclusive: For 
it is God whi h workeih in you, bo'h to 
will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all 
things without murmurings and dispu- 
t.ings, that yc may be blameless and harm- 
less, the sons of God without rebuke, in 
1 he midst of a crooked and perverse 
nation, among whom ye thine as lights in 
the world. 

Dear brethren, I am made to rejoice 
when I s-ee so many of the Old School Bap- 
tists scattered all over these United States, 
who seem to be contending for the faith 
which was once delivered to the saints. 
Yours as ever. EDWARD JONES. 


Fairfield district. So Ca.7 
March 11//?, 1340. \ 
Brlovf.d BretHben Editors: I have 
so much on mind, that I scarcely know 
•what to say. The division commenced 
the day before the 3rd Lord's day in Janu- 
ary last, in the Crooked Run church, of 
which church I was a member. We 
charged them with a departure from the 
constitution of the church, and said if they 
would show us one command or example 
in the word of God for the institution* 
of the day, we would go with them; if 
they could not, we could go no further. I 
have bi'en crediiablyinformi'd, that a depar- 
ture from the constitution of the church they 
do not pretend to deny; and as for a com- 
mand or example for their institutions, they 
did not nor cannot show. They charged us 
with heresy and for declaring non-fellow- 
ship with them, and for accjsing their prea- 

£ chers with preaching fd«e doctrine; and ex- 
pelled bro. V. Bell and my sell". I said 
they had one false charge against me, as 
I only said their preaching was such that 
I could not fellowship it. 

And now. brethren, 1 leave it to God 
and the whole world to judge, who was the 
mo«t like heretics, them off the constitution 
of th" church and without command or ex- 
ample in (he word of God tor their benevo- 
lent spirit ; or us, on the constitution of the 
church and the word of God on our side. 
Much more could be said in truth, but 
it is so disgusting 1 forbear. The consti- 
tution of the Crooked Run church was a- 

i dopted and subscribed to about A. D. 1S1 2, 
and is just such a one as we the Primitives 
wish; holding particular election, effectual 
calling;, free jus ification through the impu- 
ted righteousness of Christ, and final perse- 
verance of the saints. Oir fir>t. meeting 
took place on the 1st and 2nd days of Feb- 
ruary last. Throng!) the inclemency of i he 
weather but few turned out& but little done. 
Our second mceiing took place last Satur- 
day and Lord's thy. We have nine mem- 
bers of the Crooked Run church, that have 
now come out of her, and I think there are 
two or three more that will follow 
the go<>d example, and only twenty-five 
white members in that church, before the 
division took plaee. One member from 
another church, who was said by his 
church to he in good standing, was refused 
a letter of dismission on account of his being 
of the Primitive faith. This is correct, 
if I am rightly informed. He united with 
us, making ten in all; and I think there 
are several more that will do so too from 
other churches. 

And now, brethren, I assure you that 
I have not wrote the above in way of com- 
plaint, for I believe God has dealt in much 
mercy with us,in givingthem no more pow- 
er than they had. And we have reason to 
fear great chastisements from God, for our 
sloth in coming out of her. Yourpaper, 
called the Primitive Baptist, is still gaining 
ground in this section. I have more new 
subscribers, whose names are inserted be- 
low. 1 bid them God speed, and expect 
to continue my subscription as long as 
thev carry the truth in them, as I think 
they do now, or as long as I live. I come 
to a close, by praying the blessing of God 
on us all, and all our lawful endeavors to 
promote his gospel and glory. Breth- 
ren, pray for us. 





Georgia, Upson county, 1 
20/A Dec. 1S39. S 

Dpar Brethrex in the Lord: I 
fake the pleasure lo give you a few of my 
thoughts concerning the times, about the 
new light Baptists; They say that the 
heathen are sinking in hell every day, for 
the want of more money to sand the gos- 
pel to the heathen. I do earnestly pray 
God that lie will enlighten their understan- 
ding by his Holy Spirit, to know that the 
heathen had the gospel preached to their, 
bv PauLthe apostle, in the first chapter of 
Galaiians, and 15. 1G, 17 verges: But 
xvhen it. pleased God, who separated 
me from my mother's womb and called me 
by his grace, to reveal his Son in me, that 
] miglit preach him among the heathen; 
immediately 1 conferred not with flesh 
and blood, neither went I up to Jerusalem 
to them which were apostles before me; but 
1 went into Arabia, and returned again unto 

Now it appears that Faul did not go to none 
of these big schools, nor no seminary. And 
it appears to me, from reading the scrip- 
lure, that the heathen are spoken about 
enough to convince any missionary. For 
I find in reading, some fifty-five times 
th« heathen are mentioned in the scripture. 
And the missionaries ned not hatch up the 
Sunday School, and Bible and Tract soci- 
eties, and Temperance society; for they 
cannot find any such societies in the Bible. 
For I have read the scripture for my in- 
formation, and 1 do verily believe, that 
ihey are the inventions of men, and that 
from the mere motive of gain of money 
and popularity of the world. 

And now, if the people of Georgia will 
only stop giving their money to these prea- 
chers and putting the smart men in office, 
vou will see a change in the times. For 
this reason, you will not hear so much 
talk about the world being so enlightened. 
But we should have the gospel preached 
to us in its purity, and our offices all filled 
with men that do not go for self-interest. 
Amos? 1 chapter and 6 verse: Because they 
sold the righteous for silver, and the poor 
for a pair of shoes. And also in the same 
book and 3 verse: Can two walk together 
except Ihey be agreed? Amos, 8 chap, and 
6 verse: That we may buy the poor for 
silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes. 
Yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat. 0- 
badiah the first chapter: We have heard a 

rumor from the Lord, and an ambassador 
is sent amongst the heathen. 15 vrs. For 
the day of the Lord is near upou all the 
heathen. Micah, 3 chapter and 11 verse: 
The heads therefore judge for reward, and 
the priests thereof teach for hire, and 
the prophets thereof divine for money; 
yet will they lean upon the Lord and say, 
is not the Lord among us, none evil can 
come upon us. 

Now, my brethren of the old faith, you 
know they the missionaries say, let us en- 
joy our freedom; and at the same time say- 
ing, you are no Christians, because we 
the Old School Baptists do not believe that 
money or men can save a sonl from hell. 
And for that reason we the Old School, do 
not give the New School any money. Mi- 
cah, 7 chapter 6 verse: A man's enemies 
are the men of his own house. Now, 
brethren, you know that the Baptist church 
was in p _ace,unt il the members of the church 
and pr&jchers brs't in these new schemes 
of the day into the church. And then, in- 
stead of church discipline it was, give 
U3 money to send the gospel to Burmah. 

Now, my brethren in the Lord, I shall 
try to show the world and the men-made 
institutions of the day, that money cannot 
avail any thing to help God lo carry lus 
purpose into effect. Z^phaniah, first chap- 
ter and 18 verse: Neither their silver nor 
their gold shall be able to deliver them in 
the day of the Lord's wrath ; but the Whole, 
&c. And Zachariah, 2 chapter and S 
verse; The silver is mine and the gold is 
mine, sai'h the Lord of hosts. And in 
the same book and 8 verse: For before 
these days there was no hire for man, nor 
any hire for beast; neither was there any, 

Now may (he Lord help (his. people 
to reflect on their latter end; and the new 
light Baptists cannot show me in ihe Bible 
where missionary is once spoken of. Then 
shall I believe they have got a Bible that 
I have never seen. 

Yours, in the bonds of gospel love. 



Carroll county, Georgia, } 
Feb. 24/ h, 1840. £ 
Brethren Editors: With much de- 
light I have been reading your paper, call- 
ed the Primitive Baptist, and 1 do believe 
that it corresponds with the word of the 
Lord; and there are others of my 'ore t lire u 



that say the same, and have authorised me 
as agent to write to yon for some of the 
papers. I conclude by subscribing myself 
yours in the bonds of love. 




SATURDAY, MARCH 23, 18)0. 


N. 2. 

Dearly Bcloved: You remember it hath been 
paid that: "A word filly spoken is like apples 
of gold in pictures of silver." And such mcthinks 
js the character of those words used by the apos- 
tle while addressing his Ephesian brethren on a 
certain occasion. In that portion of his letter, de- 
signated as chapter the fourth, he appears to have 
taken up the subject of Unity, dwelt on it, through- 
out, and handled it. in a masterly and inimitable 
manner. We should hazard little in saying, that 
the exhortation to Unity found in this chap- 
ter stands unrivalled in the scripture, and contains 
of itself a rich storehouse of instruction to the 
brotherhood. Instance the three first verses: "I 
therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you 
that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye 
are called, with all lowliness and meekness, with 
long Suffering, forbearing one another in love, 
■endeavoring (6 keep lhe unit y of the spirit in ttie bond 
fif peace. 

Brethren, do we plead guilty or hot guilty in 
respect of attention to this earnest and feeling ex- 
hortation? While battling with the avowed to bring us all. 
enemies of God and man— pressing onward to the j Brethren, suffer me to add a word of exhor, 
conflict boldly, nor flinching in all our course: i tation, and if it is presumptuous in such an 
while standing up in the cause of truth, and ear- ! obscure individual, I appeal to your clemency 
nestly contending for the faith once delivered to I for pardon. To the Cananites, the Hittites, 
lhe saiivts, r do we ever Fall a victim to our own the Tlivites, the Perusites and Gergasite-;, let 

about him awfully wrong and mysterious to be 
sure. But if this is the case at times, and if such 
is inevitably incident to an earthly pilgrimage, al- 
though bound for a better country, yet it is no rea- 
son why it should be indulged in or held up as a 
precedent, I clearly think this night mare should 
be shaken off as speedily as possible, and the 
clear sunshine of our waking hours craved, where- 
in wo can read our titles clear to mansions in the 
skies, prepared fori/// the elect of God.-— and for- 
getting the petty heart-burnings of the old man of 
nature, dwell with rapturous thought on our hear 
venly union. 

"If any man sin, we have an advocate with the 
Father, Jesus Christ the righteous, and he is the 
propitiation for our sins." Let us leave those 
things which are behind, and press forward tQ 
those that are befjre, endeavoring always to be- 
come better and wiser in the Christian profession; 
and by all means "endeavoring to keep the unity 
of the spirit in the bond of peace." Suppose, for 
instance, brethren, each of us should from this 
time forth strictly conform to this last divine in- 
junction; what would be the consequence of an 
earnest and strong endeavor on the part of each 
and every one of us to maintain unity] Think you 
we should by thus doing, sow to the wind and 
reap tho whirlwind! Should we thereby be sow- 
ing to the flesh, and of the flesh reap corruption? 
Nay, verily, but we are fully assured that such a 
course would be sowing to the spirit, from whence 
we might expect to reap the fruits of good living 
in the house of our God, viz: love, union, har- 
mony, concord, peace, righteousness and joy in 
the Holy Ghoet. Uuto such a state of things 
may the I.ovd of his infinite gocdness be pleased 

passions so far, asjtbrough envy, jealousy & crim- 
inal negligence, to wound the feelings of each oth- 
er — divert our weapons from the enemy to the 
l>osoms of our own dear brethren, and thus mar for 
a season the pleasures of our union/! True, while 
in the body we are but men and have natural as 
well as spiritual desires, & sometimes tho natural 
will prevail. Undor such an influence, altho' 
Christians, we. are apt to think more of ourselves 
then we ought to think, and less of our bro- 
ther than he deserves at our hand;!. Too apt to 
be all justice and no mercy, with an uncharitable 
eye to scan the actions of our brother. To look at 
his foibles, not oner them— to magnify, not lessen 
thorn; and if he takes a different road to mill or 
market, gravely conclude that there is something 

us present an unbroken phalanx, determined in tho 
strength of the Lord to drive them all out of the 
land & possess it, wherein true righteousness may 
dwell and wherein the true altars to the living 
God shall be seen smoliing on every hill and 
in every vale. Let us to the Armenians of every 
denomination, (and their name is legion.) give 
place, no not for an hour but on all fit and proper 
occasions expose their hypocrisy, controvert their 
heretical notions, and overturn their sandy f"iinda- 
tions of a conditional salvation, (whereby the saint 
is kept upon the torturo, and the sinner directed to 
a mock city of refuge. But for the peace of Zion 
and harmony in her holy temple, let not Jcab take 
hold of Atnasa's beard and smito him ui.der the 
fifth rib— let not the priests who minister to the al- 



(r-ar strive for the ascendancy, and lord it over God's 
heritage — neither let the brethren usurp undue 
authority in the church over the rights of their 
ministers or one another,— but let 113 all with the 
assistance of God li endeavor to keep the unity 
pf the spirit in the bond of peace" — endeavor to 
see eye to eye in the thing--; of religion — pull gen- 
tly together in the gospel yoke, like unto a com- 
pany of horses in Pharaoh's chariot of old. Let us 
think more of brotherly love and heavenly union; 
and cherish the purest affection, the liveliest feel- 
ings, and the utmost peace aijd good will to ward £ 
all oar Father's children — the heavenly company — 
the followers of the poor despised Nrzarene — the 
sect every were spoken against, and the hated of 
all nations — yea, even those Christians who in the 
present age are called Old Schoolor Predestinarian 
Bjplista. (to he continued.) 



North Carolina, y, ~) y i, 1340. 5 

VeRV dear and well beloved brethren in 
the Lord: I now take my pen in hand to present 
to you a few lines in the way cf a New Year's gift. 
As the apostle Peter said, Isiy to you: Gold and 
silver have I none; hut such as I have give I unto 
thee. And as the blessed Saviour h is said, what ye 
freely receive, freely give; so if the Lord & Saviour 
has freely given me Words and wisdom to lay 
any thing bef>reyou f >r your eomf >rt. and consola- 
tion, surely I ought to be thankful to think he. has 
freely given it to me to lay before you, And as 
we are ail travelling from earth to the great j.ulcr- 
rnent day of God Almighty, we ought to he very 
careful how we travel, as there are so many now a- 
d'ays that are giving direction. One says, go this 
road; another says, go that road; another says, g> 
any hand you like best, no odds which; fjr one is 
as good as another, 

J<ut, brethren, you know it is common for travel- 
lers to carry a way-bill when they start on a jour- 
ney; and he that knows the way best, is the best 
ea'culated to give a true way-bill to bin that sots 
put on a j >urney. And I do believe, tint the old 
apostolic Baptists have received their way-bill 
from the first, that ever travelled the road, even on 
earth beneath, or heaven above. Why so? be- 
cause it is given by the eternal Jehovah himself. 
And the way-bill that God has given, is the holy 
scriptures, Can you prove it] says one: yes, say I, 
All scriptures are given by inspiration of God, and 
are profit, ible to all the dear children of God that 
are on thejr march to the heavenly Canaan, above 
the starry plains. So none of us need be at any loss 
to know the way, if we oftoti pull put our way- 

bill as we journey along on our way. As we 
are commanded to search the scriptures, we ought 
not to he neglectful to do so, as they are the only 
guide of a sound faith and practice. 

This is the reason I pursue the way my way- 
bill directs me, the Bible, and Testament; in other 
words, the Lord Jesus himself is the way-bill, for 
it is in hi in and by hi n and through him we have 
to enter into the heavenly Canaan, or be left out 
for ever. No odds bow ninny way-bills the 
world of mankind invent, all will fail when they 
come to be presented at the golden gates where 
the lion of the tribe of Judah stands, holding the 
book which has the seven seals. 

Dear brethren, when I look forward to the time 
1 when the seals of this book are to be opened, and 
the trump of God sounding louder and louder 
above the golden arches of the celestial gate, war- 
ning and calling the nations to prepare to meet 
the Judge. — now, brethren, hern comes the awful 
scene; all these long debates and disputes are now 
to be settled between the church of Jesus Christ 
an 1 the church of antichrist, In the. first place, 
here comes the old apostolic church to present her? 
self bef ire the Judge, with her garment out shining 
the sun in the firmament. Why sol because 
it is the righteousness of God in Christ, the impu- 
ted righteousness of the Lord Jesus, with all the 
walls and bulwarks of salvation around her. 

D ;ar brethren, unworthy as [ an. I have 
a hope hit in thai day too' mj:es and rnourtr 
tains now clivi leour bodies, that f shall be, 
a le by the grace of God lo strike hands 
.wh yon, my dear brethren, on the 
batiks ^f h 'avenly deliverance: wh '^p we 
S' all lay down the weapons of 6i.ii wiTapfe 
a' t h ■: feet of ,Ls:h, no more to travel 
throu r,h n wil lerm s.s ,vorl I of sin an I sor- 
r 1 w-j filled with pits arid snare's : " I ike us in. 
No, my dear bi other, Ezra McCrary, I 
should then layoff ny >vai robe: & fight no 
longer. I consider a few more cajnnpnhmg 
will end the war with me, po r 1 ; w< aih- 
er-beaten soldier; but w .1 i die, d ii 

brethren, ihe cause we are fighl 

in 2 f- 

ot die; for Odd is king in Zion, &,1he 
victory is his. It is true, long and dis- 
mal has been the affliction of God's peo- 
ple here on earth; bul the time is coming, 

land I hope speedily, for 1 think 1 see a 

j dawn of liglil bur-ting forth by the grace 
of Gad, through the Primitive BapUsl pa- 

I pets. 

Brethren, I have thought for many 
long years, that I did love the brethren 

|as good as was possible for man to do; but 
it does appear tq me, that 1 certainly do 

j loye the. ii if possible more than as much 



again, since I have received the Primitive 
Baptist papers; when I hear so many dear 
brethien speak my own mind as well or 
better than I can myself. It seems thai 
we have all been brought up in the same 
school, and have learnt to sped-; the word 
Shibboleth, not like the Ashdods of the 
present day or the ancient, day, who spoke 
the^word Sibhdeth. Mind those. ancient 
Ashdods oniy missed one letter in pro- 
nouncing the word, and for missing that 
one letter it seems they wer.e put to death. 
So il we miss one step in the plan of salva- 
tion, eternal death follows. 

Now when we hear the New School folks 
say, such and such scriptures are nonessen- 
tials to salvation; w.e ought to think of the 
word Sibbo'ieth, & say to them, the sentence 
of. death is past against you. I would be 
truly glad if any of the soft shells, or soft 
heads, who think we ai'e too hard on them, 
that they would read I he sacred scriptures 
more and profane history less; it might 
rause them to likeour hard he id* and iron- 
j'lckcts better than what they now do. 1 
have often begged, and that in public con- 
gregations where it h =s been said theie 
were three or four hundred people, that 
if any- person could condemn the doe'rine 
that f held forth, if they would come for h 
with their Bible and shew me my error, I 
would forfi it my head and both arms from 
my body, if eve; I preach 'd it again or said 
it again; hut would turn from it immediate- 
ly and do so no moie. 

Now, brethren, does this look like an 
impostor? 1 leave the world to judge for 
themselves, What I stale here, j am able 
to prove by hundreds of people at any time 
I sec proper to do so. When 1 hear some 
cry out and say, let us part friendly and 
let each other alone, and every man enjoy 
his own sentiments freely; when at the 
same lime the sneaks sentiments are to en- 
slave me and my children — brethren, I for 
one am not willing to make peace on mj 
such terms; I am determined to fight as long 
as God shall give me life and breath, before 
1 for one make peace on any such terms. 
The apostolic church cost the blood of the 
blessed Redeemer, and I feel determined 
by the grace ol God never to give it up 
under first cost. 

Deai' brethren, I am no sued;, creep, 
nor fence -straddfer; neither am I turkey and 
buzzard both ar the same time; neither am I 
half breed nor quarleroon. 1 am lull blood- 
ed, nil right or all wrong, that is in faith & 
doctrine; there is no straddling the fence 

about it. No, dear brethren, you that never 
have been engaged in the heat of the war, 
as 1 have been; you enn tell nothing about 
it, to what we poor old weather-beaten 
soldiers can, thai have had all the fiery 
darts of the devil cast at us from every 
quarter; particularly where thev fiud one 
poor lone creature by himself as thev found 
me; not one single pre idling brother 
to stand by me. Some llw would seem to 
oppose i', but Would not coax out from 
among 'hem. 

So I must come to a close by saying, mav 
the a!l-wise God our Saviour ever be our 
guide and director, henceforth, row and 
forever, world without end. Amen. 

Halifax county, Va. Jan. 29th, 1S40. 

Dear brethren Editors and read- 
ers of the Primitive: I address a few 
lines to communicate a few ofiny thoughts, 
being aware of the mmy opinions of the 
people in these clays < f fashionable things. 
1 shall oiler a few reasons for believing 
: that the spirit of God operates on the heart 
of maa in his conviction for and conversion 
from sin. 

The first reason we shall offer i=, thit 
the Holy Spirit is spoken of in distinction to 
the word of God, as follows: Turn you at 
my reproof: Heboid, I will pour out my 
spirit unto you. I will make known my 
words unto you. Prov. 1 23. Cast trie not 
away from thy presence, and take not thy 
holy spirit from me. Psalms, 51. 1 1. Wecan- 
noi think iho.t David here had n ferenceto she 
or iclesof Go 1; for he had 'them in possession 
and did not expect to lie deprived of them. 
Mul ye are not in the fish, but in the spirit; 
if so be the spirit of Christ dwell in yon. 
Now, if any man hive not the spit i i of 
Christ, he is none of his. The above quo- 
tations may suffice to show the distinc- 
tion between the word and spirit. 

Another reason we shall offer, why (lie 
spiiit. of God operates on the heart of man 
in his conviction for sin, is from the natural 
I depravity of I he heart. The heart is said to 
be deceitful & desperately wicked. Again: 
the natural man receiveth not the things of 
the spirit of God, for they are foolishness un- 
to him; neither can he know them, be- 
cause the} r are spiritually discerned. — 
It is said of Lydia, the Lord opened her 
heart that, ?he attended unto the things 
which were spoken by Paul. Hence we 
may infer from the word of God, that it is 
not in the power of finite beings to exercise 



that faith which is inseparably connected ■ will he morn preaching and more souls 
will) eternal lift*, without first being quick- converted? Let (is live together and all 
ened by the holy spirit. See E|)h. 2 go on together, and preach g)od natural 
chapter: You hath he quickpned, who preaching together, and hold protracted 
were dead in tresspasses and sins. From j meetings together. But what says Paul: 
ihe figure made use of by the apostle to the | Now the spirit Sp'eakcth expressly, that in 
Enhesian church, and with many others the latter times some shall depart from the 
which we could produce, we set if down jfa'ub, giving heed to seducing spirits and 
for a gospel truth, that there is no coming doctrines of devils. 1 Tim. iv\ 1. But 
lo the Father without divine teaching, (the question may arise, who are those se- 
no teaching without the Holy Spit it thro ' ducing spirits? Let Paul aps ver. Acts, 
the mea-ns of God's appointment. Let xx. 29: For I know this, that after my de- 
ArrnPnians try their own strength when parting^shall grievous wolves enter in am- 
and where they please, and they will fail, ong you, not spiring I lie flock. 30. Also of 
Let missionaries trv, with all their pomp ! your ownselves shall men arise, speaking 
and parade, and with all their schemes and | perverse things to draw away disciples nf- 

lerthem. See I John, iv. chap. : Beloved, 
believe not every spirit; but try the spirits 
whether'they are of God; because many 
false prophets are gone out into the world. 
I would here icmark, that if any profess- 
ed follower of Christ, with the word of 'God 

plans to convrt the world", thev will fail 

It brings to mv mind the language of 
the prophet: Not by might, nor by power, 
but by my spirit, snith the Lord. Again: 
Thy people shall be willingin the (\-\y of 
thy p nvrr. You will observe, they were 
the people of God before they were nyade i before him, and with his own experience, 
willing. It accords with the language o'f- should be_so deluded and led astray so 
Christ: All that the Father giveth me j far sw to bring distress and confusion in .the 
shall come to me, and him that cometh to . church of which he is a member, it would 
me I will in no wise cast out. No man j be well for the 1 church to loose him and let 
can come to me, except the Father wSfe.iehjhim go to his own place: Now I bo- 
bath sent me, draw him; and I will rai%e i seech you, brelhrcvp, mark t l, em which 
■him up at the !a->t day. This looks piety , cause djvisians an i ofl'ences contrary to the 
much like c!c tmn, don't it? Yes, and [doctrine which ye have learned, and avoid 
tastes like it too. Well, let. us hear what jthem; for they 'hat are such, serve not ortr 
Paul says upon the subject. I'cb 2nd i Lord Jesus Christ but their o-mi belly; and 
chapter 13 verse: Behold, I and the cbil- by g >od words and fair speeches deceive 
dren which God hath given me. Again, j the hearts of the simple. Run xvi 17.18. 
Eph, 2 and 4: .According as he h th chojh was so in the days of the apostles, and 
sen Us in him before the foundation of the the scripture informs us of such things," 
world, that, we should be Woly and without | that will inke place. But it becomes us 
blame before him in lo\e. 5 vaniv: Having ! brethren, of the Regular B iptists, who pro- 
predestinated us unto the adoption of chil- j f, ss to be oiled of God to preach the gos- 
dren by .leans Christ to himself, according pel, tocry aloud and •■pare not; lift up your 
to the good pleasure of his will. 2 Thcs.i voice like trumpets, and make head 
2 chap. 13 vs.: But we. are bound to give against error, and earnestly contend for 
thanks always to Ged for you, brethren, be- j (he faith once delivered to the saints. 
loved of the Lord, because God hath from A few words to the brethren in the min- 

the beginning chesen you to salvation thro' 
sanctrncation of the spirit and belief of the 
truth. 14 ver«.e: W hereunto he called you 
by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory 
of our Lord Jesus Christ. Behold, what 
manner of love the Father hath bestowed 
upon us, that we should be called the sons 
of God; therefore the world knoweth us not, 
because it knew him not. 

But what will free willersand Arminians 
say of the^e things? will they say, a little 
work and a little grace; and will modern 
missionaries say, be more liberal in casting 
into the treasury of the Lord, and there 

istry. 1 think, brethren, that if we could 
aee^faee to face often and visit per- 
haps might be attended wiih good. Al- 
tho' we have the privilege of communica- 
tion through the Primitive, but that is not 
like face lo face. Solomon says: Iron shar- 
peneth iron; so a man sharpeneth llu coun- 
tenance: of his friend. Prov. 27. 17. As in 
water answereth to face, so the heart 
of man to man. iy verse. 

I will now come to a close for the prc- 
S3iit, hoping Ihe brethren will still keep 
up the correspondence through the Prim- 
itive Baptist. WILLIAM BURNS* 




Sjulh Carolina, Fairfield dist. ~) 
March 2nd 1S40. ) 

Dear brethren Editors: I wrole 
sometime ago to let yon know my mind 
as it respects the Primitive papers.; and 
now I will inform you, that the Ararat 
chut eh, of which I am a deacon, has form- 
ed o church we believe of the Primitive 
prder. And we are surrounded on every 
side by enemies, hut we believe that the 
children of God will have enemies in every 
Age of the woi id. For the scripture in- 
forms us thai it is through much Inhala- 
tion thai we are to enter into the kingdom of 

Brethren, there are strange things taking 
pi-ice in this put of i he world, concerning 
religion and church matters. 1 have seen 
Old School Baptists preach in the yard, 
and lay their hooks on (he door steps of 
the meeting house, with the door locked 
against them. And one of these ministers 
has been preaching in this neighborhood for 
twenty-five or thirty years. 

And now, brethren, I must say, that 
if I did noi believe (hat 1 was an Old 
Baptist, 1 should have no hop? of hap- 
piness in the world io c ime, Bui as it is. 1 

peace and union among themselves at pre- 
sent. And 1 thin!; we have great reason 
to be thankful for such blessings, and try 
io be vciy watchful against dep inures; for 
departures from the faith are always mani- 
fested by departures in practice. Thus 
you will see the preacher, who is unsound 
in (he faith of the gospel, continually on 
the theme of works anci searching out eve- 
ry thing 1 he can find to enforce duty on his 
hearers; while the deep and important 
doctrines of salvation by grace only, are ne- 
glected. And one reason why they are 
neglected by so many 1 have thought is, 
because (hey do nol know them expeiimen- 
tally by revelation; and no man can learn 
them- and love them well enough to talk 
much about (hem, simply by the letter or 
by historical learning, without the spirit of 
God. And I have thought many ate 
blind leaders of the blind, in ihe broad and 
popular way (hat is so much mote pleasant 
to nature than the doctrine of grace, 
that it knows nothing of 'and cares less for. 
But do not misunderstand me, and 
come to the conclusion that I am not in 
favor qf Christians living in a discharge 
of duly; fov I verily believe, that the 
preacher who-is sound in the faith of the 
gospel, will study Io show himself approv- 

ing a h 
ihe Iran 1 
into lilo 

it. at 1 shall one day be cleat of led unto God in the important doctrine of 

s of this world, and be received 

j \ . wr.e e tin 

weary will ibrevei 
he wicked will for- 

ma v 


be at res(, and when 

ev -r ec.T ■■ fr >m troubling 

Brethren, p-'-'y for us, that w 
able to walk in thai sji 
way that leads to lifo eternal. I shall come 
to a close by subscribing myself yours. 



Lexington, Oglethorpe county, Ga. } 
February 20th, 1840. $ 

Dear bnethren Editoks: 1 again, after 
a long time of reading the writings of many 
others in your paper, am under the neces- 
sity of sending you a few lines for (he pur- 
pose of having it continued to a few 
subscribers whose names you will find here- 
in inserted, &c. 

Dear brethren, I have nothing of impor- 
tance ai (his lime to call your attention to, 
more than that ihe churches in my acquain- 
tance, that have come out from Ihe newfan- 
gled moneyed institutions, seem tQ remain 
steadfast in that faith which was once deliv- 
ered^ tQ the saints, and enjoy a good degree of 

salvation by grace, without the works of 
the law; which when it is preached is food 
to the preacher who preaches it, and all 
other.Chrisiians who bear it, whether ihey 
he known by Ihe name of bard sh< II, soft 
and narrow | shell, Old School, New School, Baptist, 
Presbyterian, Methodist, or what not; if 
indeed, they have tasted (hat the Lord is 
good, they do know and will love the doc- 
it ine of salvation hv grace and grace only, 
(-peaking after the new man, for the old 
man "hieh all have is never pleased with 
it, but is always mortified by it.) 

Well, this doctrine always reminds the 
Christian of the goodness of God in the 
great and complete plan of salvation by 
grace, and leads him to a repentance for 
his pasi sins, and stirs him up lo a dis- 
charge Of duty in fuluie; in this way 1 
think Christians keep his commandments, 
because they love him, which surely is the 
only correct motive. So 1 believe faith pro- 
duce- works from the principle of love, 
and works never did nor never can produce 
faith. And whenever works come first, 
t!vy are dead works and cannot be accept" 
table with the living and true God. But 
the faith of God's elect does produce Works 



con-isfenl with his word. And whenever ( wilj be (he most miserable; for what few 
works of this kind are acted out by his flays I have seen appear lull of trouble, 
dear children, they nre sure to make" mani- When i wrote you in .Inly 1 ist, I think on 
fest faith that is the gi ft of God, arid by the ?Oth, it appears some were pleased and 

wliich they are justified in his sight, and 
surely are acceptable w'i'h him through Je- 
sus Christ our Lord, while they live, when 
they die, after death'; and to eternity. 

Then, dearly beloved^ "he ye steadfast, 
inmov.ible, always abounding in the work 
of i he Lord;" for the work, of the Lord is to 
believe on him who.rai he ha h sent. May 
the. Lord bless ail his children,- wh > are ear- 
nestly contending for the faith of the g»s 
pel, and cause them therein to abide; and 
may l*e pity all their enemies. 1 think is 
toy heart's desire for Christ's sake. Amen. 

some were no: ; hul those of my old brethren 
(the United Baptists,) and of the doc.irme of 
vour paner ihirik there is riolhingbul t-rutl 


if ii is rather a hard s i 

>houid always be wiilinj, 





Lynchburg, Tennessee, } 
Juii'yoth, 1S40. \ 

Dear Editors: 1 am permitted, and 
6annot tell why, to address you oi the 
tnosi. worthy subject of our Lord Jesus 
Christ, and his poor desponding peo 
pie or church in this low ground of sorrow, 
where devils how 1 ! and i he wicked seam 
to bowl aioundthe fold. Oh, brethren 
your unworthy correspondent could but joe happy an 
know he was one who was jest woithy to be our lo' 
suffer for his name's s^ke, methinks it would 
create an entire new* feeling in ibis poor". 
frame of ciirrupiion^where it seems no good 
thinu; can dwell. 

Your paper is read and considered to 
contain the truth of the Lord, as it is encou- 
ched in the scriptures of divine truth. 1 
hope bro. Lawrence will again write, and 
not stop on account of the little difference 
l*see between himself and some bro. 

Now, brethren, 1 cannot do as 1 should; 
hut let me just say, that if I should say any 
thing lo the injury of any bro.'s feedings, 1 
would ask him to write me piivaiely; and 
not brethren let us see our Nos. filled with 
little differences of opinion. May the Lord 
bless all my dear brethren, who have writ 
ten in the Primitive Baptist. So far as 1 
am able to judge, I think I have thus saiih 
the Lord for it. 

1 have nothing new to write, except 
darkness appears to hover round us. Sin 
and immorality appeals to abound more, 
and as our days grow older they appear to 
grow worse. Hut, brethren, if -your poor 
writer should find no rest beyond this world 
of commotion, of all men it appears he 

ing. iNow we 
,»; far the truth to 
inn every man a liar be, as i; is writ- 
ten": Let God be true and ev. ty man a liar 
—•if I am not mistaken in tire quotation 

We see> that the Legislatures of our States 
are requested by relig-ious denominations, 
to pass laws to prohibit men from drinking- 
whiskey. 1 hope I never may si e the Oid 
Baptists at such work as thai. And in fact 
1 have no fears of it, for 1 think they are 
well pleased to' see freemen ■■.<am\ not drunk- 
ards neither. I hope the Lord will be 
merciful on us, poor sinners as we are. 
1 hopeand believe the Lord will carry on 
his own work, after the council of bis own 

rm stenous to the vv 



May grace, mercy and peace be ours in 
this world, and a happy acceptance in that 
gre-it day when we must appear at ihe jus- 
tice of ail nations; and there meet our 

ifjSaviour in smiles oi peace, wn 
fur ever. 

io the will of heaven.- 


ac rt 
I remain as ever. 



Georgia, Slewnrl county, 
Jan. 23, 1840. 

Beloved brethren Edktqrs: Grace 
be to you and peace he multiplied. I have 
delayed writing to you longer than I 
should, in consequence of the delay in con- 
stituting our Association; but at last, irr 
spite of all that the missionaries have said 
in relation to our not being able to consti- 
tute, ihiftee'n church. -s were represented? 
containing fhe hundred & seventeen" mem- 
beis, which were formed inlo an Associa- 
tion exclusively aloof from all the AshJod 

The missionary storm, (for 1 know not 
what else to call it,) has blown over our 
country, and is now followed by a mo- 
derate calm; and it is truly diverting, 
to hear those who were blown away 
in Ihe gale, enquiring the way back; 
for the cloven foot has been at last dis- 
covered, and many of them have become 



much affrighted and seem to be rfisposedf Q f our little Harmony Association. Much 

lo hide under almost any thing, except 
gospel trulh; saying, thai the brethren have 
run into extremes both ways, and that if 
they do not < o better, ihey will take their 
letters out of ihe church and preach wfiev- 
ever ihcy will let (hem, and live neither in 
the church nor out of it. W bile some ate 
enquiring of our article of nori-ieiJowship, 

Impends upon your conduct, therefore let 
you lives be examplary and if you suffer 

persecution, lei it be for the sake of Christ 
and his gosp. J, and not for your miscon- 
duct in any manner wh itever. For if you 
suffer as an evil doer, or a busy body in oth- 
er nun's matters, you are not to rejoice 
on this behalf; but if ii i.s alone for the 



saying, that if it is not too hard they vs ill i M ! <( . f your [ aLlh j n Crtrist, Jesus tells 
return and go with us. Hut they have j you t0 rejoice and be exceeding .'] 
not been sufficiently bufietted 3 et, or they 
would not be so much afraid of their breth : 
ren, who have been abie to hi 00k the 
storm with all iis force, and remain perma- 

nent upon the foundation of Hie aposth.s 
and prophets, Jesus Christ being the chief 
corner slone, and contend earnestly for the 
faith once-delivered to the saints. 

And now, brethren, 1 think is the prop- 
er lime 10 observe the solemn warning of 
our Saviour, to watch; for from the signs of 
the times, 1 believe that there is danger 
of their again creeping inio the churches 
and creating new disturbances. Therefore 
let us not forget lo watch; for I have never 
been afraid that we should noi get our share, 
but 1 have many fears that we shall gel too 
many; for their system of doctrine at pre- 
sent in this (ouutiy is fully sufficient lo 
drive from their ranks all Christians, for 
they have got so afraid of revelation that 
they oppo^eii ai every opportunity, & there- 
fore contradict the experience oi every tine 
Christian. For the Saviour tells us, Matth. 
11th and 27ih, that no man knoweth the 
Son but the Father, neither knoweth any grace of qui 
man the Father save the Son, and be lo 
whomsoever the Sou will reveal him. 
And again, ii is written that they shall be 
all taught of the Lord; therefore, every 
man that heareth my words and learned) 
of my Father, cometh uuto me, &c. There- 
fore, from scriptures with many others, 
we have no need to fear that we shall not 
get our full share; but from this system 
of their preaching, together with iheir de 

nying the doctrine of eternal election in 
the pulpit, end at the same tune subscrib- 

you lo rejoice and 

great is your reward in heaven. Thcrifenj, 
hi us be riper* of the word aud not hearers; 
only; L>r it is 10 the doers ol'the word llut 
the promises apply. 

And now 1 besaech you, brethren, to 
look to your situation, your extensive 
bounds, together vvidi the feeble slate of 
the minis \~y in so ir Association; and 1st, 
lei it be our chief concern 10 pray 10 ihe 
Lord of ihe harvest lo send forih Ub*<erj> 
into the harvest. 2dly, seajch the scriptures 
for your duty to those thai he has already 
S'/m, and as you have a few that seem ile- 
tor mined to sacrifice their all for the sake 
of Otorst ami his cause-, be engaged to 
show to the world in the language of the 
apostle Paul, thai ihe laborer js worthy of 
his reward. Aud when your enemies 
would accuse you of being opposed to the 
support ©f a gospel ministry, as commanded 
in scriplureSj let them be deprived of this 
weapon by your having discharged your 
duly in this respect as Weil as all others; 
and thus show to ihe world lhat your faith 
is not dead, being alive. And may llib 
Lord Jesus Christ be wiihyou 
Yours as ever. 



Georgia, Monroe county, > 
Jan. 1th, 1540. > 
Brethren Editors; Through tne 

kind permission of an all-wise creator, I 
am blessed with another opportunity of 
addressing you a leller, and can say to you 
that I am yet proud of the little Prim., 
which is welcome news from a far country 
to me, aud many more precious bi\ th- 

ing 10 il in iheir consiitulion as their faith, | r , n , that have hard shells and haid 
their cloak of hypoency (or in other words, ! heads and sound hearts, that cannot be lead 

their sheepskin,) is almost worn out. 
Therefore 1 need not inform you, thai 

about by every wind of doctrine by the 
siighi 01 men who cry, Lo, here; Lo, there; 

our cause is every day gaining ground j aiU | make as much snapping and crackin^ 
in this country, and the clear light ol the j as fire in a bundle of ehesnut sticks; who 
gospel begins to shine with its lormer bill- j are fixing anxious benches and crying ioud 


And now a word to my beloved brcth 
ren in conclusion, particularly in the bounds 

aniens with screams enough lo damp the 
heart of any Christian; which in a ftw 
blasts puis ihe fire all out; which I believe 



is nothing more than sham fox-lire, which 
will show very well in the night, bvit cannot 
be seen when, the the brilliant luminary 
breaks forth and shines brilliantly. 

So, dear brethren. I can say we iron 
jackets in this vicinity believe in, we hop^, 
that small still voice that old Elijah hcaftd 
in Horeb. For you know that there was 
a storm that rent the rocks, but the Lor! 
was not in it; so we believe that the Lord 
is not in the new (angles of the day, which 
are not authenticated by the holy writ, and 
not known in the apostolic age, such as 
Bible, tract, missionary, temperance socie- 
ties, Sunday School Union, &e. &e. 

I am in haste, brethren, as I have not 
more than live minutes to address you. 1 
am going !o vt rile you, when I can get a lei- 
sure time lo do so, which I presume will be 
candle light. Tell bro. Rudolph Rarer, 1 
tend Mr. Creep over to him. So farewell. 
A predeslinanan Baptist. 


Orange count]/, N. C. ID/h March, 1S-10. 
Demi Brethren Editors: Your lit- 
tle paper called the Primitive Baptist, is 
begining to be read with some interest in 
this section of country. 



T am the Proprietor of and intend pub- 
lishing in the course of this year, the fol- 
lowing work, viz: William Huntington 
upon Universal Charity, pursued and taken 
by Mr. Zeal for God. Examined before 
Mr. Gospel Experience, the magistrate; 
found guilty and delivered up lo Mr.Elec- 
tion, the jailor; then bro't before Mr. Dis- 
cerning of Spirits, ihe deputy judge — there 
tried and condemned. Together with .let- 
ters on i Ministerial Ability's delecting er- 
ror, and some comments on dark passages of 

Also, the naked Bow of God, or a visible 
display of the judgments of God on the ene- 
mies of truth. The last will and testament 
of William I Inn ling: on, a servant of Christ, 
and of the church for his sake. Also, a 
preface to his will. 


Bear Creek, Ga. Feb. 5th, 1840. 


North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Wittiamston, 
R. M. G. Monro, German/on. VV. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washmgtoni James Sou- 

therland, Warrenlon. Alfred Partin, Raleigh. 
Charles Mason, Boxboro'. James Wilder, An- 
derson's Store, Beitj. Bynum, Speight's Bridge. H. 
Avera, Averasboro' . Parham Packet, Ricklunds. 
Ji H. Keneriay, Chalk Level. 13. Temple, Wake co. 
Geo. vr. McNeely, Leahsville. Win. II. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Tliomas Bagley, Smithfield. 
James H. Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B, Bennett, Ucalhoitle. Alfred El- 
lis, Slrabane, Cor's-Canaday, Cra/oeftsville. Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creek, J. Lamb, Camden 
Ci Hi A'. (5. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac 'Cillery, Lapland. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil* 
kersnn, West Point. Isaac Alderman, Moore's Creeld 
James Miller, Milton Park. 

South Carolina. — Win, Hardy, Saluda ll : ll, 
lames Hemhree, Sen. AndMSon C. II. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. B, Lawrence', Effingham i 
James Burris, Sea. Bold Soring. William S. 
Shaw, Roek Milk. Levi Lee, BlackviltS. An- 
drew Westmoreland, Cashville. James Ji Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Brunch. Ransom Hamilton, M* 
ken. John S. Rogers, CrowxviWt- Marshal Mo 
Graw, Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cookham's. 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDonough. John McKemey, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange,. P, ML Cal- 
houn, Knoxville. R. Reese, Eatonlon. Thomas 
Amis and David vv. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Noel, James Hollingsworth and Stephen 
Caatellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Uowdoin, A luirsville. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatoie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. John Gay den, Franklin. P. 
II. Edwards, Georgetown. William Tries, Tiion- 
a-ion. William Bowden, Union Valley . Ezra Mo- 
Crary, Warrenlon. Wiley Pearceand Prior Lewis 
Cairo. John Lassetter, Vernon. 13. Pace, Van 
Wert. L." Peacock, Cas*wlle. Vacha] D.Whatley, 
Barnesville. Alex. Garden and Thomas Cr Trice, 
Mount Mornc. Elias O. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt. 
J. G. Wintringham, Halloca. William Mi 
Amos, Greenville. Randolph Arnold, Lati- 
mer's Store. Thomas .!• tiazemore, Clinton. 
Joiiah Stovall, AquiWa. G. P.Cannon, CuUoden- 
viUe, Jason Grier, Indian Springs. Wiilinm 
Me E Ivy, AUapulgus. Furna Ivcy, Mlliedgeville. 

William Garrett, Cotton River, 
Georire Ilerndon and John 


Leonard Pratt, Whitesville. 

Jesse Moore, 
Hardie, Ir- 


ward Jones, Becaiur. Thomas J. Johnson, New- 
nan. Israel Ilendon, Shi\o. Robert B. Mann, 
Chesnut Grove. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove. 
I John Lawhon, Ckenubu. John Herington, Wei- 
\ bom's Mills.. James P. Ellis, Pdneville, V. Hag- 
I gard/, Athens. H. Barron, Jackson. John Murray, 
I Fort Valley. J'osiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
' O'Neel, Fow/lon. John Applewhite, Waynesboro' \ 
J.B. Morgan &..B,Pdlouse,F/iend.ihip, Sam'l WTU- 
liams, Fair Play. John Wayne, Gain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Huolensvillc. R, S. Hamriek, Currolllon. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses 11. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, Blakely, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
TarversviWe, John Stroud, Kendall. James Scar- 
borough, Statesborough, Young T, Standifer, 
Mulberry Grove. Robert It. Thompson, Cenfre- 
vitle. Young T, Standifer, Muloeiry Grove. Ja- 


fed Johnson, Troupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansville. Edmund Si Chambless, Htu/lings 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, JohnstonniWs. David Rowel I, Jr. Groo 
ixrsviWe. Joel Colli y, Cdo'mgfoni W. w. Pool, 
Columbus. Benjamin -C. Burns, Vi]\a Iiiecal 

Alabama. — t.B. Mosele.y, Cuhawba. A. Kea- 
ton, McConico. John Blackstone, La Fayette. VV. 
w. (Carlisle, Fredouia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Win. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'] 
GatTord, Grcmrii/e. Samuel .Moore, Snow Jill. 
John G. '-Walker, Mellon. Henry William's, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Maun/ Hebron. 
Daniel. CLfLornc, EMs Daniel, Church Hill, 
John Bonds,, David JohiVston, Leighton. 
Adam McCreafy, Brooklyn. Josiaii Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, X> a: Market. Sher,rod w. 
Harris. Vienna. John McQueen, Gravex 1 Ferry, 
William Talfey, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her. 
ring, Clayton. G. w. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pliasant Grove. William C rule'!; or, 
jluntmllc. William II, Cook, Pickensvilfei 
Seaborn fl atria rick, Plan'trsville. William Mel- 
ton, Bhifj Port. .!. lues s, Morgan, Dayton. Wm. 
Hyde, Gaineavilhi Ruins Daniel,' Janiision, An- 
derson \v. Bullard, Tusgcgec. Frederick Hines- 
Gaston, Z. .Inhus, Tiara, Eli McDonald,' Pains* 
■ville. A. Mitchell; Carter's llitt. William Pow- 
ell, Ybiengsvfllei John Brown, Wacooca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, It. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville- David Tread well 
ami R.w. Carlisle, .V»tm2 Hickory. Sam'l T.Chve n; 
Argus, Joseph H. Moll© way, H iz\e Green. Luke 
JR. Simmons, Troy. Jesse Leo, Fwrnersvitle, 
William S. Armstrong, Lhuuvi'Ie. Mark Porter. 
Biimbpb'lis, Henry Adams, Wo ' Wiling. Joel 
H.'Gfiambless, Lbw^vitle. Elliot Thomas, /'?'-/- 
lidmston, F. Pickett, China Grove, James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M Pearson, DadeviWe. W. 
J.- Sofe'llfe, Weturtipkal John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cox, Souheehatchie. James Searcy, Irwinion. 
Hazael Littlefield, Ten Islands. John w. Pellum, 
Franklin, Philip. May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D> Cooper,' Wi\- 
liamsibni John Harrell, Missoui i. James K. 
Jacks, Eliibn. Henry Hilliard, BcWville. John 
A. Miller, Oakfu. slice. Durham Kelly, Alexan- 
dria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Athens, William 
Thomas, Prospect Ridge. John Bishop, Jun'r. 
Crockettsville. James Gray, Cuscta. Thomas L. 
Roberts, MnnroeviUe. 

Tennessee. — A. V, Farmer, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
chael Burkhalter, Cheelesville, Tho's K. Clingan, 
Smith'sX Roads. W.E.Pope, Philadelphia. Aaron 
Compton, fiomerv'ille; Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, Meesville. James 
MauldenfPan Buren. A. Burroughs, Wesley. Wm. 
Croom, Jackson. Sion Bass, 'TAree^forks, John w 
Springer* Sugar Creek. Smith I Iansbrough, Jacks 
Creel;, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Sevierville. 
Thos. B.YeaXcs, Lynchburg, C.T. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Medon. Levi Kirkland and Ce.orge 
Turner, Wavcrly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysville. Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
X Roads. .L Cooper, Unioncille. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. Jafii H, HoJloway,' Hazel 
Green. William McBee, Old Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin w. Harget, Chcrryvillc, Robert Gregory, 
Carouih's X Roads. 


Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Sprfagt. 
Thos H ol land, f)ailvi/le, Wotshnm Mann Columlras; 
Henry Petty, Zion. Wm. Hnddleston, Thomasion. 
Nathan' Tims, Kosciusko. Jonathan D.Cain, Wa- 
tcrjhrd. Nathan Morris, Lix'mrton. Charles 
Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris; 
WfcecMng. Simpson Parks, Lock/tart's Store, 
Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, Wm. Ringo., Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd BeematJ 
ami Thmuas H. Dixon, Aftfco'h. John Ihwin, 
LipWiorrfii Herbert. D. Buckham, , PonJntoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and Micajali 
Crenshaw, Marion. Win. Warren, Dekalb, C. 
Nichols, Slump Bridge. -Vooieu Hill, Coakswlle. 

Florida, — James Alderm'an and P, Blount, 
China Hill, David Callaway, Cherry Lake. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, hlarburyvi\ie. — 
Thomas I'axton, Greensboro'. Uriah Stevens, 
Fine Core. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Illinois. — Riclurr'd Mi Newport, Grand P7<w, 
James .MarsTial], Salem. Thomas w. Martin, 
Fast Nehqn. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzrtfan, New Harmony. I- 
saae w, Denman, Grcll din, 

Ohio. — Joseph ii. Flint, Philanthropy. John 
B. Moses, Germaivlon, 

Kf.ntuckt. — Levi 15. \'\mt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, Co-ncliusville. 

Virginia. — Remuel C. Gilbert, SydnorsviYte. 
Rudolph Rorer, Bergcr's Store. John Claik, Fre- 
dericksburg, Wm w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
li mi Burns, Halifax (.'. II, George w. Sanford, 
Harrisonburg. Jesse Lankfurd, ' Bowers' s, Eli* 
jab Flansbrough, SdmeroiWe. Wilson Davenport, 
White House." 

Lis. Columbia. — Gilbert Beehe, Alexandria. 

Pennsylvania. — HejSekriah West, South /lilt. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. Nathan Everitt, 
Chillicoals Town. 

Wisconsin Ter. — M. w. Darnall, B\ue River. 



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No. 7. 


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Gadsden county, Florida, 2 
Februarylst, 1S40. $ 
Beloved brethren Editors: In my 
simple and ignorant manner I have to ap- 
pear before yon by Way of writing, as to tbe 
signs of the times in this section of coun- 
try, which have been set before you by j 
others more, adequate to the task than my- 
self; (for I only had about seven months! 
schooling,) and a lay member, having; the 
office as deacon of the Hepsibah Baptist 

You have seen lite resolution of this 
church in the Primitive paper in vol. 4, 
page 109. We as a church are hut little 
troubled with those missionisis or spiers of 
our liberty as yet; but from the best infor- 
mation I have, our church liberty as a 
Primitive professed people is their object. 
And this, according to my judgment, is 
working by the aspiring characters carrying 
two sides for that purpose. And this is to 
keep one Side dark as possible, while they 
carry the other side to its full extent, 
through the spirit of benevolence and Ar- 
minian doctrines, in order to get all they 
can as members on the effort side. And 
thousands perhaps, who are following them 
are preparing; their gallows to hang them- 
selves or their prosterity on. That is, they 
must obtain their charters afid qll their ad- 
vancing objects by the majority of votes 
to accomplish their designs, to which all 
of the effort class will give their vole, and 
at last our dearly blood-bought liberty is 
lost. Then what, a monarchial government, 
then we with thousands of their side, will 

have to pay tribute to the clergy, and that 
according to their own covetousness, and 
make us worship as they please, or drive 
to martyrdom or abandon our country. To* 
which, if the people could see, w - e might 
proclaim as the little band the Primitives,' 

Dear brethren, I think it is high time for 
the watchmen to give the alarm in lime 
and place, and by doctrine and religious ad- 
vice, for who can tell how things will turn. 
Therefore, let us call on him who is able 
to bring order out of confusion, arid has 
brought salvation both common and special 
to his people in times past, when they o- 
beyed his statutes and commandments. 
We as a nation, I think, are in a tottering 

Dear brethren, if you deem my judg- 
ment under a mistake, in what I have here 
stated, I hope you will look over my sim- 
ple remarks. And may the Lord enable US' 
all to see what is his will concerning us,< 
and giva us a holy boldness to perform 
our duty as depending creatures on him: 
for all blessings, is my prayer. 

James albermjiN; 


Mississippi, Lnumdes county, 
Feb. 20/A.1S40. 
| Brethren Editors: I have taken it 
Unto my head to write you a few lines for 
; publication, if you think proper to do so. 
! We have had great disturbances in the 
J churches throughout this country, concer- 
ning the missionary question: but we who 
profess to be of the Primitive faith & order, 
have come out from amongst them. V» a 
are but few in number, but in good spirits 
though We are few and feeble. There is 


one thing, brethren, that encourages me, 
when I see the mighty bulwarks that are 
raising agafinst us; the batlle does not be 
long to the strong, nor the race to the swift. 
Therefore, let us pray God to increase our 
faith, and to make us strong in the hope of 
salvation. Let as put our trust in the 
Lord Jesus Christ, who has arranged all 
things for his eternal purpose. 

The missionaries call us hard shell and 
iroh sided Baptists, &e. &c. We hive two 
sorts of Baptists in Mississippi. We have 
a few of the Old School Baptists, and hun- 
dreds, yea thousands, of what I call the 
money-hunting clan. For they are a clan 
thathave set themselvesupfor a speculation, 
and they are making handsome fortunes 
too, or have made them. But I can tell 
them what it is; begging is like every other 
speculation in this country, it has been pret- 
ty well dived into, and if there is any of 
the begging order in North Carolina, and I 
expect there is, tell them I cannot advise 
them to come to this country, as I think 
begging is likely to become a low calling 

The missionaries, or free and independent 
Baptists, as they call themselves — and I 
think they are entitled to the name, for 
they are as air other people are in a free 
country; that is, they have the free and 
constitutional right, which the government 
of our country has provided for all its citi- 
zens; that is, to have their own notions about 
religion as well as other things — therefore, 
they, the independent Baptists, as they 
call themselves, are entitled to their free- 
dom'. And if their occupation is as profit- 
able as it is thought to be, that is, living 
at ease and begging and teasing the honest 
hard working community out of their ear- 

Now I would not have you to think, 
that I allude to any individual by no means; 
but he who the cap fits, must wear it. 
They have no doubt accumulated large a- 
mounts, perhaps enough to render them 
independent; therefore, I believe that 
they are entitled to the name of the 
tree and independent missionary Bap- 

So I leave the- subject, and come to a 
close for the present. Now may the Lord 
of heaven enable you by his divine power 
to carry on the work, which you have I 
trust commenced in his cause, and may it 
triumph over all opposition, is my prayer 
for Christ's sake. Amen. 



Greensboro' , La. St. Hel. Parish, 7 
Sept. 5. IS 39. y 
The prince of peace has declared, that he" 
came not to send peace into the world, but a* 
sword; and one of his prophets has declared ,- 
that "cursed is he that keepeth back the 
sword." As our weapons however are not 
carnal (yet mighty thro' God,) so may not- 
our spirits be; for the wrath of man (altho' it' 
shall praise God) '■workelh not his righte- 
ousness." But we are in the midst of a great 
battle, and are called upon by our great cap- 
tain to contend earnestly. O God, "teach 
our hands to war, and our fingers to fight: 
And this manner of fighting we have an ap-' 
propriale and almost literal use for; hut may 
our pens not be dipt in gall, but love. For 
I am persuaded, that if we have the glory 
of God in view, in every thing we write, we 
shall also have the love of souls in our 
hearts. But fight we must, and thanks he' 
to Got!, we have an armory complete! 
See Eph. 6. 11: "While we wrestle not 
against flesh and blood, but against princi- 
\palities, against powers, against rulers of 
I the darkness o( ihis world, against SPIR- 
! ITUAL wickedness in high places. The 
I word of God is our offensive weapon, and' 
I our little Prim, seems a proper theatre for 
each soldier to come up and make his thrust,' 
with our truly Jerusalem blade; If we be or- 
derly and wait upon the revelations of our 
brethren, by giving them room when any 
thing is revealed. 1 hope I shall be found' 
ready to keep silence, when any thing new 
has been revealed to another. 

Well, brethren, I think there has been; 1 
something important revealed to me, and 
if you will keep silent a little while, I will 
plump it out. It is a true exposition of 
BETHESDA. See John's gospel, chap. & 
I am under a strong persuasion, that the ac- 
count is not intended to be received as a' 
literal, or historical fact, but as a figurative 
development of an enormity carried on in : 
this world. I shall first give my reason 
for not receiving it as an historical fact, 
and secondly, giving my view of its ti»ue 
intent. Mv first reason is an imprcgna 1 - 
ble one, if it be established. Then first,. I 
believe there never was such a place as 
Btfhesda at Jerusalem All the builders, 
re-builders and topographers, eolemporary 
with Solomon, Ezra, Nehemiah, Zerubba- 
b'el and Herod, have left their negative 
upon it. Indeed there would seem to be 
a species of falsehood in the history of 


Nehemiah, if tl ere had been such a place 
in his day, for he undertakes to give aii ac- 
count of I hem. See chap. 3, where he 
describes several pools, with their proper 
names, and other more insignificant placed; 
but Belhesdd; he never names, yet he 
mentions the sheep gate; but we have the 
latter before us as a shcep-Murke/, which 
was hard Uy this Bethesda. 

But secondly, is it possible 1o conceive 
that there should have been a place of such 
uncommon notoriety, at Jerusalem (a re- 
ligious mart for the world) and all the 
Learned historians together know nothing 
about it, upon the one hand; or upon the oth- 
er, conspire to oblivionize it? Undoubtedly 
if there had been such a wonderful place, 
curing ever kind of disease by a miracu- 
lous descension of an angel, see verse 4th, 
we should not look in vain forn single refer- 
ence, both in oral and written history! 
Methinks that the temp!c of the great 
goddess Diana, and even Solomon's, would 
have been thrown into the back ground, by 
the unequal comparison with our BE- 
THESDA. Even among our inspired 
apostles and church-fathers, we find no hint 
or credence to there ever being such a place 
at Jerusalem. 

AnJ thirdly, can we recieve it as a lit- 
eral fact, that there could have existed an 
impotent man for 3S years, getting no bet- 
ter nor worse in all that time. For when he 
came there lie could not walk a few steps, 
and when our Lord visited him he was 
still in the same fix. There must have 
been a standing miracle to keep him alive 
so long, especially when he had NO MAN 
to help him, see verse 7. Indeed it would 
take as great a degree of credulity to be- 
lieve such things, as to believe that God 
would, miraculously, keep an angel steady 
on duty so long a time, and not to afford 
help to those creatures, who were least 
able to help themselves. But, my dear 
brethren, we have not so learned of Christ. 
Now if 1 have established my posi- 
tion, it follows, that ihe Holy Ghost 
intended to set forth the two different 
kinds of worshippers that are in the world, 
and that we should be profit ted thereby, 
jjfhere is a mystery of wickedness as well as 
the mystery of godliness, and no doubt in 
my mind, that the figure before us- is inten- 
ded to exhibit both. The first, by those who 
are able to step into the pool, & the latter by 
the inability of the impotent man, whom 
nothing but Jesus could cure. By view- 
ing it in this way, it seems to me, that 

I can see through the whole affair. I can 
see many healed, in their way, by desiring 
to escape hell and get to heaven; hot ca- 
ring a cent by what means they get there. 
To be sure the name of Jesus is much used, 
but I believe not quite so much as the term 
religion. This word is but seldom used 
in my Bible, and mostly then in a wickett 
sense. However, I believe there is another 
poor little word used more than either: 
I mean the Word piety. This unobtru- 
sive word in itself, has been tuggedj lug- 
ged and forced into every view of religion, 
without aU conscience. Does a man pray 
fluently? This is a pious man. Does 
he preach loud and open his mouth wide? 
Surely this is a very pious mart. But does 
he shut his eyes, change his voice and 
groan utterably? 0, did ever one see such 
a blessed and heavenly pidtts man, &c. 
&c. !! I wonder if the world will believe 
me, when I tell them, that this word is 
never used in Scripture but ohce; and 
then upon the occasion, for sons and neph- 
ews to not hide themselves from their ovvri 
flesh, but with their money to support their 
parents, instead (as some would have 
them) of sending it some where, and some 
how, of which they know not, and for 
Which they have no commandment? 

But the pool will explain all these things; 
to which we come. "Now there is — by the 
sheep-market a pool." Yes, so close as 
to get the skin any how. They have pul- 
led it away from bro: Lawrence, and I ant 
sure I may not try to get it from them — 
"which is called in the Hebrew tongue 
Bethesda." I do not Understand Hebreiv, 
perhaps if I dich it would help my elucida- 
tion. But thanks to God, I think 1 can get 
along with my subject pretty well without 
such knowledge. Yes, they are sure to bd 
about the sheep; that is, they will be btisy 
in doing as the sheep da. Do Christ's 
sheep follow him by singing,' praying giv- 
ing thanks and preaching? So do they. 
And if I were to offer a distinguishing trait, 
it would be their redundance in all exter- 
nals. The structure of the pool, had not 
only the apartment for bathing, but five 
porches or avenue's, by which it was entered. 
Now in these, lay all the candidates for 
health. These five porches seem to agree 
so strikingly with the five senses, which 
man possess, that 1 cannot refuse their appli- 
cation. The heart or soul seems to be the 
pool. Water in scripture, many times, is 
meant to be multitudes of people. Now al- 
tho' multitudes of people cannot be said to 



be in any man's heart, yet their opinions, 
prejudices and tradition?, in mallets of re- 
ligion, are certainly, in the hearts of 
all inquisitive men. Here they are 
wont to lie, quietly enough, until a revi- 
val takes place in Christ's church, and then 
the transformed angel enters the pool; the 
waters are troubled, and to some sprightly 
fellow, the cure is effected. 

1 cannot forbear to compare it with the 
visit of some great angel-looking preacher, 
who will so trouble a settlement that one 
6f the most prominent young men will 
step in, and have his charges paid to learn 
him to preach. This fellow is cured of a 
WOrk-sick heart, and away he goes. We 
are often asked if the Baptists don t stand 
in need of learned preachers, as well as 
other sects? We answer, yes. Hut we 
are sure of one thing and fhst is, ''there 
shall not be many;" and what few we are 
to have, will be first separated by God 
from their mother's womb, next brought 
up at the feet of gome Gamaliel. Af- 
ter this they will be called to the mi- 
nistry: they will not confer with flesh 
and blood, but straightway preach Je- 
sus. These we call good gifts, coming down 
from the Father of light. But those man- 
made preachers we call bad gifts, coming 
vp from the earih. Now it seems as if it 
were an easy thing to detect these latter, 
for Christ has said, by their fruits ye shall 
know them; and that we cannot serve God 
and mammon. If we look sharp, no matter 
how they twist, cover and turn things, you 
will seethe fruit appear after a while; and 
i will risk all the knowledge I have of this 
matter, that it will be some how, in the 
shape of something very much like a — a — a 
DOLLAR. For their appropriate name 
is M AMMONITES. They must excuse 
us for this plainness of speech, for our eyes 
must not spare the adulterers, tho' they be 
as our right hands. 

The pool having those five porches, 
through which alone it can be entered, and 
these already having been compared to our 
senses,- we must next -examine the process 
©f these senses, upon the human understan- 
ding.- Seeing, hearing, smelling, feeling & 
lasting; the-e appear to be the hrst princi- 
ples of our knowledge. We first perceive, 
perhaps we next conceive, then compare, 
combine, abstract, &c. We afterwards an- 
alogise by the powers of remembrance and 
reflection, until we arrive at a conclusion 
of some sort. This forms a platform, wher- 
on four champions exhibit their powers. 

I mean the judgment, the will, the affct- 
Hans and the cpnscie?}ce. These ate sel- 
dom at peace, when the man is about to- 
undertake any great enterprise. The 
judgment and the conscience are always-' 
agreedjfor they are the offspring and twins 
of knowledge; but the will and affections 
a»e often refractory and turbulent in 
their waywardness; especially when they 
have not borne tlie yoke in their 
yonlh. Now it follows, that, if a man's 
knowledge be defective, all the pow- 
ers of his mind may concert a peace, with- 
out proper counsel and without consistency. 
So the man may "cry peace, whetf 
there is no peace." For "if the lighi 
which is in us be darkness, how great is 
that darkness!!" Man in a natural state 
knows not God, and therefore is in dark- 
ness; for God is light. fie may have cul- 
tivated the sciences and climbed to their 
pinnacles, and have diven into the depth* 
of literature and made astonishing discove- 
ries of the hidden laws of nature; yet is 
he but a fool, and so will he acknowledge 
himself, whenever God opens another 
porch, or a sixth sense: 1 mean faith. 
Without faith it it is impossible to pfedse 
God." Faith is the gift of God." But 
"all men have not faith/' He therefore 
who gave the five must jjive the other, or 
we shall be confined to the earth in all wc 
do, in ail we say, and all we think. 

Those healed in the pool, bv troubled 
waters, were thus confined. Yet there 
was one that nothing but BLOOD could 
heal. By the first branch of faith, enlight- 
ening his understanding, he could not so 
step into his heart as to find any thing 
good or of a healing nature there. I have 
said in a former letter, that the- fust branch 
of faith being "the substance of things ho- 
ped for," it must mean eternal life. If 
so I can easily see how he might live 38,000 
years in any fix. Perhaps 3S years was the 
longest time any of God's children ever 
were in conviction. This idea, as well 
as that of his not distinctly knowing; -at fir.Tt 
•who it was that healed him, are purposely 
left on record for the me of God's weakest 
children. Its being said to beat a feast of the 
Jews,& on the Sabbath day, may signify the 
popularity & strictness of external worship- 
pers. His not knowing at first, that it was 
the Lord who healed him, seems not to be 
singular. For we recollect a person whose 
eyes be had rubbed, but one saw very im- 
perfectly; he thought a man to be as large 
as a tiee. Young converts are very apt to 



realise this spiritual application, for they 
think every Christian, to be much more 
holier than he afterwards finds them and 
himself to be. But tills is far, very far 
from being the case of those who have re- 
ceived the anointing of satan. They 
are strong from the word go. Witness 
how quick and strong they learn to pray. 
They havenever been lamed, like old Israel, 
by a wrestling-match with a certain man, 
while his name was changing from Jacob. 
£ What is the difference heween a Jacob 
and an Israel? nothing, only what a wrestle, 
i. e. an experience makes.] Yes, we may 
be. sure those poolitesare strong when they 
come out, for they were so in the worst of 
their sickness. Compare the exercises of one 
of these and an Israelite. Rut Christ has 
done it already, seethe pablican and phari- 
see at prayer in the temple. '-They are 
wiser in their generation than the children 
of light." When we have on record but 
once of Christ's rejoicing, we ought to 
take an emphatic notice of it. Let us quote 
it. *-I thank thee, Father, Lord of hcav- 
and earth, because thou hast hid these things 
•f om the wise and prudent, and hast revea- 
led them unto babes.'" This is God's way, 
but the mammonites will have another 
way, in despite of God or us Wo unto 
them. They go in the way of Cain, and 
run greedily afier the error of Balaam, for 
reward; & perish in the gainsaying of Core. 

not a compound of the three foregoing cha- 
racters? May the Lord of his rich mercy, 
save some. While we, "having compas- 
sion and making a difference, save others, 
by pulling them out of the fire, hating 
even the garment spotted by the flesh." 
0! our brethren, come out of HER! ! There 
are many things indifferent to God, of such 
things we are only to be fully persuaded in 
our own minds, and then shall we be hap- 
py. Such are, eating meat, {if we don't eat 
too large a piece at a time) drinking wine, 
marrying, &c. If we receive them as mer- 
cies, and are thankful. But in the man- 
ner & matter of his worship, God is parti- 
cular to the extreme. He is to be worship- 
ped in spirit and in truth. And this cannot 
be done but by a spiritual worshipper; who 
sees things which are invisible; and this is 
done by that same faith. May we not be 
sure, that much is signified, by his not al- 
lowing his shew bread to be leavened, and 
the stones of his altar to be hewn. More- 
over lie has commanded, Exo. 20. 26: 
"Neither shalt thou go up by steps to mine 
altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered, 

My God, what an awful idea this brings 
to my mind! There are so many steps 
now-a days, that I eannot name them in 
order; and perhaps while I nowam writing, 
some more are hewing out. 1 think, how- 
ever, the first step that was laid in this in ven - 

But how do they go in the way of Cain? I live day, was the Bible. Yes, in a society 

1 answer, by offering things, in which faith 
lias nothing to do. I mean such as silver | 1 
&go!d, which God esteems as "filthy." But 
our missionaries esteem them very highly. 
This only shews that God and they are not 
of the same way of thinking; and without 
faith, this opposition will continue in this 
world, and the one without end!! 

We will now notice Mr. Balaam; and we 
can easily know his error, for we are told 
it was for REWARD. A missionary will 
ride over his quarter, to preach, or estab- 
lish societies, the Lord knows of how many 
different kinds, for ihsreward of I suppose 
$40 per month; 1 say, well done, Balaam. 
And for Mr. Core's part, we must seek in 

way. Let us speak reverently and sober- 
of the blessed Bible. What, can it do 
without the spirit of life? It is the sword 
of the spirit; no one else can use it; and is 
like all other swords, inoffensive of itself. 
There could not be a more ignorant belief 
than what our Lord accused some of the 
Jews with, John 5. 39: "Search the scrip- 
tines, for in them ye think, ye have eternal 
life and they are they, which testify of me. 
Now we see that there is no life in them. 
They only speak of Jesus, who indeed is 
the life. Now their use is clearly pointed 
out by St. Paul, Rom. 15. S: Now I say 
that Jesus Christ was a minister of the 
circumcision, for the truth of God to con- 

Num. 16. 10, under the name of Korah. It firm the promises made unto the fathers. 

seems he had learned so much, some how, 
or another about the priest's office, that he 
thought he suited it, as well as Aaron, and 
perhaps belter. But he perished, and all 
those who advocated his pretension. 

My dear brethren, these are awful things 
to write about, but we musL speak plain. 1 
now ask, if the missionaries of our day are 

AND, that the Gentiles might glorify 
God for his mercy, &c." Now as this 
truth respects us Gentiles, seeing that the 
Jews are now cut off,and we only interested: 
we glory in God for the testimony of the 
Jewish scriptures, which so punctiliously 
concur with our New Testament facts. 
For we see from henee^ that he is the 



true shepherd and we feel (hy his spirit) 
lhat the porter has opened the door unto 
him. But it is now a dead letter to the 
Jews, as it is unlo us, unfit the linie appoint 
ed hy the Father. "The isles shall ivait 
for his law — which converteth the soul.'' 
But when they are to wait no longer, 
there shall "some Cornelius see a vision, 
and send for some (whom the Lord pleas- 
eth) whom the spirit hath prepared These 
shah rise up and go, in despite of all forms. 
& the work shall he done notwithstanding. 

1 believe I shall leaye off trying to enu- 
merate and describe these slept, which the 
missionaries have erected to God's altar, 
especially as bro. Lawrence (who seems 
to he like one of the beasts in the midst 
of the throne, having eyes without, as well 
as within,} detects them as fast as they ap- 
pear. Besides, I gat a little puzzled in try- 
ing to describe the second step: I thought 
it was made of gold; out I thought I saw 
gold even upon the first; and as 1 cast my 
eyes upward, to every succeeding one, me- 
thought { saw gold all the way. These steps 
reach so very high, that the nakedness of 
the ascending worshippers are so plain, that 
I am indeed ashamed, and will return to the 
pool again. 

Jill men lie at this pool, viz: in their five 
senses, for the word is, ver. 3: "in these 
lay a great multitude, &c" The most 
of whom, are content to lie there, being con- 
tent with the lust of the flesh, the lust of 
the eye, and the pride of life. But as the 
devil vvants some active sheep-skin-wear- 
ers, he troubles their thoughts in such a way 
that they feel a cure necessary; & these are 
they who li Jirst step in, and are cured of 
tphulsoever disease they have." All men 
by nature have an incurable disease, except 
those whom the Son of man came to seek 
and to save; yes, our impotent man was 
among the rest. But the devil will have 
gome of his children amongst God's; (Christ. 
bemg pastor; witness Judas. ) These are 
what the apostle calledy<//.se brethren fie 
prepares some by hypocrisy, but these are 
not they of whom we are speaking, 
for some must go through some oper 
ration qf his, in order that they may 
possess his own assurance. The devil, 
therefore, emerges them out of the trou- 
bled and dark waters, into his transfor- 
med light. See 3 Cor. \l. 13, 14, 15 vs. 
You may see a fair representation at a camp 
or procrastinated meeting. For in the 
midst of confusion and distraction, you will 
geesome (whom the devil had selected) hop 

up from a state of prostration, and in 
their mouths a glory, glory, glory. God ts 
not the author of confusion, and the Book 
sdtys so. And Jesus' manner of healing, is 
also before ns, verse 6: ''Wilt thou b© 
made whole?" Notice the great difference; 
and ti ace it through all ages since the world 
began, to the present day. The devil's 
children can make themselves whole by 
stepping themselves into the pool; for the 
devil's doctrine is, '-MAKE yourselves 
whole; for every thing is ready if you will 
do your part." And there is not one of 
his worshippers, but what believes it with 
their whole heart. Notwithstanding, Ihev 
are obliged to have grace upon their 

There is a scripture they quote very 
often, but without its legitimate application: 
"'co-tvorkers with God." There is rio 
sense, in which this scripture can be ap- 
plied, so as, to help God to save our souls, 
but is peculiar to the office of an embassa- 
dor. And what is that? Answer, to 
send a message of peace to whom God will- 
eth and a bad one, to wham God wiileth. 
Tq the one the gospel proves a savor of life 
unto life; to the other, of dea'h unto death. 
Our Lord said unto some, whom he knew 
to be of the devil, "Ye will not come unto 
me." But God's trembling children, have 
to wait tint, I ONE JE^DS comes atang. 
For they neither - see, nor f el any thing, in 
their hearts, wheh can effect a cure. In- 
deed they find their poo) so muddied by 
deceit, and offensive by wickedness, (see 
Jeremiah, 17. t).)thal they are unable to 
enter it. 

I perceive so strong a confirmation of the 
view 1 have taken of this passage of scrip- 
ture by Isai. 50. 10& 11 v. that I feel bound 
to make the application. "Who is among 
you that feareth the Lord and obeyeth the 
voice of his servant: that walketh in dark- 
ness and hath no light, &c." "Behold, 
all ye that kindle a Jire, and compass your- 
selves about with sparks: walk in tho 
LIGHT of your fire, and in the sparks that 
ye have kindled. This shall ye have of 
urine hand, ye shall lie down in sorrow." 
Here is the image of our impotent man, in 
one who hath na light; yet he is told to 
trust in the nameof the Lord, and to stay 
upon MIS God. And allho' one of our 
figures is represented by water, and \he 
other by Jire; their application is the same. 
God was in neither; the devil was in both. 

As we have seen how the devil makes 
missionaries with ivater; let u,s see how h© 


•works it w\th fire: an element he is more) 
■conversant with. Well, here he comes 
along, in one of his transformed ministers, 
(who is an angel-looking fellow,) brought 
3jp and prepared 10 preach by a society of 
the begging mammonitcs. This fellow will 
kindle such a fire, in some church, 1 hat its 
intense heat, will so liquidate the gold and 
^silver, in the pockets of his hearers, that 
•like the lava of some volcanic eruption, it 
ishall overwhelm some of God's cities, 
{churches.) Thus by their kindling a 
blaze of enthusiasm, money is procured to 
rear up successors in their art, who sh:ill so 
manacle the consciences of the people, that 
nothing will give them ease, until they po- 
ney up another hundred dollars for life 
■membership, &c. &c. Thus is this gaiie 
of artifice, ignorance, or laziness, played & 
perpetuated over the people's deluded 
heads. I hope,iiowever, that the regimen 
of our humble Prim, will effect the cure of 
some. The bad news from heaven, which 
we have lately heard, may deter others. 
It would seem a little ungenerous of the 
Prim, in plaguing the poor missionaries 
an this world, when they get no rest in the 
next. But the factis, we don't believe in 
it at all. We believe that those who are 
troubled after they have deceased, have ne- 
verdied to, for, nor IN the Lord. We there- 
fore advise them (in love) to discontinue 
their effort schemes for which they have no 
commandment nor precedent from Christ, 
nor his Primitive churehes. For this thing 
hath wrought much offence, bitterness and 
strife in God's church. 

In looking over my address, I find that 
i have confined myself altogether to my 
brethren. But my dear sisters, I have a 
word to you; I mean to my married sisters. 
As much as I have always respected and 
Joved your sex-, I must here accuse you 
before the public. I do wish from my heart, 
that ye may be able to take the Book of 
books, and by it acquit yourselves. In- 
deed, my sisters, the delicacy of your per- 
sonsmust not prevent myearnest contention 
upon this occasion. JVly charge is, " That 
your common practices are downright 
missionary." You know I am writing 
against that sect, and you are too dear to us, 
not to pull you out of this fire, if we can. 
The specification is, unruled by your hus- 
bands. Take the Bible in one hand; hold 
die other up unto God; and eay, if you can, 
ii not gui/ly. ,, Would to God ye could 
do so. Would to God that this sin was un- 
to you as other sins; foi which you repent, 

and which you hate. Our principal charge 
against the missiouary system is, that it 
derogates from the rules which Christ has 
laid down for the church's conduct. The 
missionaries of this day, therefore, obey 
not their head. Christ is said to be 
the head of the church in tall things, see 
Eph. 5. 22, &c. "Therefore, as the church 
is subject unto Christ, so let the wives he 
to their own husbands in every thing." 
We don't accuse you of following the 
commandments 8? ordinances of men." 
I wish you would give us such a chance; 
oecause I know, it would please the Lord, 
ii it were respectively done. But why need 
I quote scripture, ye have all heard it, and 
heard it, until I am seriously afraid ye 
MATE it. How do you know, my dear sis- 
ters, but what your disobedience to your 
head may not have prepared some of God's 
children to disobey their head? You must 
remember that your unceasing example be- 
fore their youth, hath stiffened their necks 
against God. When you do contrary to 
your husband's will; you uncover your 
heads to your own shame, see 1 Cor. 11. 
3. &c. Your husband is your covering. 
Expose him and you are naked, see Gen. 
20. 16, 

I am confident that lileraily there never 
was such a place as Bethesda, at Jerusalem. 
The long context, however, which the impo- 
tent man seems to occupy (see Job, 7. 21,) 
staggered me a little, while I was writing 
about it. But the reasons I have advanced, 
are inconiroverlable. I therefore conclude, 
that the figure represented had a literal 
origin by the great cure of a celebrated 


Finally, brethren and sisters, I believe 

in the pool being a figure. 1 believe also 

•in my own incapacity to properly expose 

I it, and desire some abler brotber to treat it 

'in detail. Christ telling him, "sin no more, 

■ least a worse thing come unto thee," may be 

I explained by the fear of ever) 7 one of God's 

I newly born children. They believe, after 

! such a display of love, that they ought not, 

j nor would be forgiven, if they should 

sin as before. For they sincerly believe in 

quilting sin altogether. "When we were 

children we tho't as chidren, &c." 1 will 

just add a word, for some impotent child of 

God. My dear bro. dont you know that 

all that God requires of you is to love him 

with all your heart, and with all your 

might, &c. ? Yes, say you, 1 wish I could 

do that. A word .more, would you not 

love him better if you could ? O yes. 



Then you already love him with all your 
might. But surely, in much weakness 
Yes, my bro. but he will see vcni again 
Farewell, THO, PSJXTON. 



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No. 3. 

Brethren: "There is one body and one spirit, 
even as j T e arc called in one hope of your calling; 
one Lord, one faith, and one baptism; one God and 
Father of all, who isaboveall, and thro' all, and in 
you,all" Which brings to mind another saying 
of the apostle:. "If God be for us, who can bo 
against us! who shall lay any tiling to the charge 
of God's elect? It is- God thai jusiifieth, who is 
he that condemneth] Who shall separate us from 
the love of Christ] Shall tribulation, or distress, 
or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, 
or sword? Nay, in all these things we are morn 
than conquerors through him that loved us. For 
I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor 
angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things 
present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, 
nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us 
from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our 

If all God's creation, whether in the heights 
above, or the depths beneath; — if all the principal- 
ities and powers in the universe, cannot burst a- 
Bunder the everlasting bonds encircling Christ 
Jesus and the people of his purchase; what hath 
the saint to fear, with the evidence brightening 
before, him, that lie hath been born again of the wa- 
ter and of the spirit — been created anew in Christ 
Jesus unto good works, which God hath before or- 
dained that he should walk in them? And in 
view of this eternal and never-ending union, how 
inconsistent mustit be for those who are embraced 
therein and who are the happy recipients of all 
the divine blessings flowing therefrom, to be led 
along by the malign influences around them so 
far from the pathway of duty, and the bind- 

ing obligations of brotherly love, as by word 'Of 
deed to render themselves more distant in appear- 
ance from each other; — cause bickerings and 
heartburnings to spring up, and seem to urge this 
very separation themselves, which Paul thought 
it impossible for all their enemies combined to ac- 

Passing by the many little circumstances which 
transpire amongFt brethren of the same church or 
conference, that might come within the purview 
of these considerations, I would notire some 
things of a more public nature; such as the general 
discussion of subjects either from the press or pul- 
pit, that lead to actual controversy amongst breth- 
ren! In a free social compact, the liberty of speech 
must be allowed to all; and although this rrwy be 
abused by the few, it should not on that account 
hedenijd to the many. In the agitation of political 
subjects amongst the nations of the earth, the social 
condition of mankind hath been improved, and a 
steady and sure progress made towards the ultima- 
tum of equal rights. And to the mighty inrlu-. 
ence of bold discussion in matters of religion, 
may be attributed, secondarily, the stupendous re- 
formation in the days of Luther and Calvin; and 

1 many of the "dorious thing's that have since been 
I . , 

brought to light from the vast store house of 

revelation, to the comfort and edification of the 

But that it is necessary for brethren of the same 
faith & order, partakers of the same heavenly call- 
ing, who are known by others as well as themselves 
to believe in and enjoy the same confession 
■ of faith; to indulge in controversies, thereby ex* 
1 bibitincr to the enernv a divided front, 1 am both 
, unwilling and loth to admit. It. will not admit 
of debate, that they en such occasions, differ 
' in essential points of doctrine; because, if 
j they thus differed, the brotherhood never existed, 
: and the matter ends. The difference therefore 
must turn upon non-essential points; and perhaps 
in nine cases out of ten, whore such controversy 
exists, unpleasant and bitter feelings are the conse- 

Brethren, have not all of us been witnesses of, 
and more or less participators in, such unpleasant 
things'? Have you not sometimes noticed broth- 
er arrayed against brother, in the boisterous and 
long discussion of some subject coi'int cted with our 
profession, which was rendered moro ambiguous 
if possible by the multiplicity of words, than 
it was before the discussion began] I doubt not 
but you have repeatedly noticed such instances, 
where brethren appeared to get wider and wider 
apart by their fine spun arguments, witticisms, 
apt sayings and hard sayings; when at tie same 
lime you verily believed, their sentiments to be 
precisely the same, if rightly understood— Hint 



ti'.ry worn a- unit in opinion on the subject about 
which they were disputing, and that the. only differ- 
ence existing between lliem was caused by the lum- 
ber & dust of their many words with little meaning'. 
Then why not flisperisewith controversy amongst 
ourselves, ft let our weapons (which should not be 
carnal but spiritual, overthrowing the strongholds 
cfsatnn,) fill exclusively on the heads.of our ene- 
mies, and the adversaries to our most holy uni- 
ion and that most holy cause to which we are es- 
poused] With us there is bat one Lord, one faith, 
and one baptism. Therefore, let us put down dis- 
union, put away jealousy and envy, and self-ex- 
citation and every wicked device which the devil 
may suggest to our minds; and let us by the grace 
of God love one another with a pure heart fer- 

Brethren, I beseech you to exhort one another 
to stiil greater unity of action; for in UNION 
there is both strength and beauty, It is a high 
tower and a strcng tower, and a fort invulnerable 
to j\wir e.nt mies.' Have an eye of especial favor to 
your ministers: encourage them in their labors of 
love, both by administering to their temporal *e- 
cessities, and dropping a kind word in their ear; 
(which is too generally neglected;) and be sure to 
remind them of this heavenly union. Also 
charge them, your chief speakers & ready writers, 
"before the Lard, that they strive not about 
Words to no profit, hut to the subverting of the 
hearers." Lotus all desire to make joint pro- 
gress in the divine life, and seek each others hap- 
piness; — making use of the talents committed 
unto us by the Almighty, for the promotion of 
this great end. , F . > r recollect, that, "unto every 
oue of us is given grace according to the measure 
ot'lhe gift of Christ — and he gave some apostles; 
and some prophets; some evangelists; and some 
pastors and ^eaehers; for the perfecting of the 
saints; for the work of the ministry; for the edify- 
ing of the body of Chiist: Till we all come in 
the unity of the faith and of the knowledge 
of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the 
pleasure -of the stature of the fullness of 
Chiist." "Cast not away, therefore, your confi- 
dence, which hath great recompense of re- 
ward." (to be continued.) 

C. $, IL1SSELL< 


P.plar Spring, Fairfield district, S. C. 3 
Feb. 8/7/, mo 5 
Jl Fragment for the Primitive Baptist, 
by Jonathan Mickle. 
Thought* cm Isa. ix. fj; Mis name shall 
be called, Wonderful. 

The Son.ofGod was a wonderful per- 

sonage, such as never existed before his 
incarnation; nor ever will exist after it, in 
any other person or subsistence. He was 
God and man, of two distinct natures, but 
one person. Hence he is called The Root 
and Offspring of David. Rev. iii. 5. He 
was Lot-dof the universe, yet had not where 
to lay his head. Mat. viii. 20. Luke, ix 58. 
He was a son Sj. a servant, [sa. xlii. 1. Z< ch. 
iii. 8- Though he thought it not robbery to 
he equal with Cod, he took on him the 
form of ;i servant. Philip, ii. 6, 7. 
Though the kingdoms of the earth were 
all his, yet he paid tribute to an earthly 
king Mat. xvii.27. .lohnxix. !5. Though 
lie was King of kings and Lord of 
lords, an earthly king had dominion over 

He assumes the different epithets of 
Lamb and Lion, Master and servant, a 
God and a worm.'* These are wondeifnl 


It was a wonderful thing that 

he stioiild he made sin for us who knew no 
sin, thai we might be made the righteous- 
n'ess of God in him: that he in whom dwelt 
all the fulness of the Godhead bodily ,«hould 
cry out, My God, my God, why hast thou 
forsaken me? that he should be despised 
and rejected of men, a man of sorrow and 
acquainted with grief. It is wonderful to 
think, that it should p'ea-se the Lord to 
hrtrse him and put him to grief, who yet 


i was thu image of the invisible God. 
: first horn of every creature; by whom all 
I things were created that ate in heaven 
'and that are iii earth, visible and inv s- 
: ible, whether they he thrones or dominions, 
' or principalities or powers; all things 
! were created by him and for him. And 
' he is before all tilings, as says the apostle, 
I and by bun all things consist; and lie is 
' the head of the body, the church: who is 
, the beginning, the first born from the dead; 
' that in all things he might have the prc-eir.-r 
j inencc: for it pleased the Father, that in 

him should all fulness dwell. 

Thoug'i he was holy, harmless, undefiled 

and separate from sinners, he was number-? 

t d with the transgresscfrs; he had his grave 

with the wicked, and with the rich in his 

death. La. liii. 9. 12. 
It is such a wondeifnl thing thatGod should 

give up his Sou to die for sinners, is what 

*Psal xxii.G. "I am a worm, and no man;'' 
i. e. I am held in contempt and despised 
among men; or as it is immediately added 
by the Psalmist,", and 
despised of the people," 



makes so many deists, so many who Hen y 
»he fact. The thing is too wonderful for 
them. They do not credit it. Hence how 
appropriately is his name called, Wonderful. 

Jt was such a Ovotiderful thing that Mes- 
sias should appear in such an humble 
condition, that the Jews would not believe 
in him. Me was to them as a root out of 
a dry ground, having no form nor comeli- 
ness, lsa. liii. 2. 

Such is the blindness of our minds, and 
the darkness of our understandings, that 
the whole plan of salvation through him 
seems wonderful. It sgems a wonderful 
thing that our sins should be imputed to 
him and that his righteousness should be 
imputed to us, that his sufferings should be 
substituted for ours. But, brethren, this 
wonder solves and explains another: it ex- 
plains lo us how God cm be just and the 
justifier of the ungodly, Rom. iv. 5. how 
sve though guilty, may find pardon and ac- 
ceptance with God; and how we may be sa- 
ved from hell. His n a me shall be cal- 
led, Wonderful. 

Protracted Meeting revival Hymn. 

1. Lift up ynur eyes to th' heavenly seats, 
Where your Redeemer stays, 

Ivnd intercessor, there lie sits, 
And loves, and pleads, and praysi 

2. Twas well, my soul, he died fjr tliee, 
And shed his vital blood, 

Appeas'd stern justice on the tree, 
And then arose to God. 

3. Petitions now and praise may rise, 
And saints their off" rings bring; 

The priest with his own sacrifice 
Presents them to the king. 

4i Let new lights take take what course they 

And their evang'lists boast; 
Jf we'd no advocate but these 

Our souls would sure be lost. 

5. They'll say, now while an hymn we sing, 

Let all the people come; 
Ye husbands now your children bring 

And with your wives fall down.* 

C. Ye humble mourners, all draw near, 
Press forward through the crowd; 

Neglect not now your cross to bear 
While we do sing so loud. 

7i While the next stanza now we sing, 

Ye saints of God, fall down. 
The mourners are ashamed to kneel 

Till first they see you come, 

8. If while we sing this verse again 
You will prostrate yourselves; 

*Col. Davis gave this kind of invitation at 
Mount Zion church, Rocky Creek, Chester district, 
fcj. Carolina.' 

We will lie sure the whole to gain 
And get them down by halves. 

9. Ye Christians all fall on your knees, 
And thus th' example set; 

When this the congregation sees 
They all prostrate will get, 

10. The harden'd sinners are averse 
To leave their seals and come: 

Now sinners, while we sing this verse 
All at your seats kneel down. 

11. Ho! all ye people, free and bond, 
Come kneel down by us here; 

For such as are too stout to bend 
Have no part in our prayer.* 

12. We are the men to offer prayer, 
For we are in Christ's stead; 

Come fall down on your knees just here, 
If you do feel your need. 

13. Thousands who have so done, they say, 
Have got their sins forgiven; 

For while evangelists do pray, 
Jehovah bows the heavens.f 

The conclusion of th" Old School on hear- 
ing and seeing the new light move' 

"Jesus alone shall bear my cries, 

"Up to his Father's throne, 
"He, dearest Lord! perfumes my sighs, 

"And sweetens every groan. 
"Ten thousand praises to the king, 

"Hosanna in the highest; 
"Ten thousand thanks our spirits hring, 

"To God and to hie Christi" 

*Mr. Chaffin gave the people at Hope- 
well, notice, formally, that such as did 
not come forward and kneel down while 
he wag singing, he would not pray for. 

tThis Colonel Davis asserted from the 
pn'pit atthe Poplar Spring meeting-house, 
Wateree church. He said hundreds have 
got their sins absolved while they weie 
kneeled round about the preacher and he 
was praying for them. "I believe I might 
say, thousands, but hundreds, 1 am sure 
of," said he, "are living the lives of 
Christians. They are not mischief-ma- 
kers, (i.e. They are not of the Old School,) 
but are living the lives of Christians. " And 
he has proposed for the people to drag up 
one another, as I am informed, and come up 
by families saying. Prove the Lord for once, 
if he will not open the windows of heaven 
and pour us out a blessing that there shall 
not be room enough to receive it. 


Franklin county, Georgia, ~> 
2Slh February, 1S40. $ 
Dkar kkethrkn Editors: I once more 
take my pen in hand to inform you, that I 
am ycl alive and trying to contend for the 



faith ones delivered to llrn saints; but! wj 
are still pestered with the institution folks 
through ihe bounds of Tngdo Association, 
but I believe that God will bring all things 
outright in bis own good time. It has 
been some time since I wrote before, but 
1 will try to let you hear from me again 
after a while. 

Dear brethren, may the great head of the 
church guide and direct you in the way he 
would have \ou to go. is the prayer of \ our 
unworthy brother until death Farewell. 


Piekemville, Alabama, ~) 
Feb. 2 3 d, 1840. S 

Dear Brethren: With us things are 
calm — i he slorm seems lo have blown over. 
Tnie there are some that seem to have been 
caught in the brush and mud, but 1 think by 
giving them a friendly hand they will be 
able to come out. I do not mean compro- 
mise, there is no compromise between truth 
and error; but in the spirit of meekness and 
forbearance, (give council.) 

Dear brethren, kerp in memory the 
council of brother Moseley of Georgia; 
that is, avoid a war of words which gender 
strife, inhere should he a difference of 
opinion on an abstruse question, settle 
it by pivate let'er. I can say as did 
Jacob of old, my life is wrapped up 
in the lad's life, and that we fall not out 
by the way. The work we are engaged 
in is great and large, and v e are separated 
upon the walls, one far from another, and 
wheresoever you hear the sound of the 
trumpet, resort ye thither, for our God 
will fight for us — our weapons of warfare 
are not carnal. 

I did not intend to write much in this 
letter, but since writing the above, I have 
heard from different quarters, and it seems 
as if the churches that went off with the mis- 
sionary side of the question have become un- 
happy, at the commencement of this year 
being called on by^heir preachers for a fixed 
salary; and I think the time not far off, when 
there will be another divide; for them chur- 
ches arc quiet unhealthy. This you know, 
dear brethren, is the sum of the whole 
matter of difference; the missionary wishes 
to make a craft or lucrative office of the 
ministry, and the Primitive or Olcj School 
oppose it. The Primitive churches and As- 
sociations enjoy great peace and harmony 
of faith and ptaclice in this part of God's 

vineyard. Those Ashdod children seem 
to. approximate nearer Campbellism than 
any thing else; and 1 do think myself, the 
greater part of their preachers were con- 
ceived in Arminianism and brought forth 
in Campbellism. 1 will say nothing about 
the middle ground folks, as brother Bee- 
man has told that so well. I will let it 
stand and say, go ahead, brother B. In 
conclusion, 1 bid you God speed. Live 
in peace and may the God of peace he with 
you. WM. 11. COOK. 


Tennessee, McMinn county, 
Feb. 13///, 1S40. 
Brethren Editors: I now write you 
a few lines which may inform you, that 
the Primitive is still read by many with 
delight, while some are persecuting them, 
&'c. Some who are tainted with the free 
will principle, that still belong lo the 0. S, 
Baptists; are found in our country as fault 
finders; but the old predestinarian feeds 
upon 'he strong diet. 

1 mu<t close for the present. In great 
haste, yours, &c. 


TO editors primitive baptist. 

Georgia, Columbia county, ) 
Feb. 1th, IS 10. ' \ 

Dear brethren in the Lord: I am 
happy that 1 have it in my power lo ad- 
dress vou once more, I get my papers 
regular, and am well pleased with them 
and satisfied with you all, because yon 
speak so plain. And ''especial ly 1 love lo 
hear old brother Isaac Tillery speak in the 
plain language of the scripture, as all God's 
children should speak the language of Ca- 
naan plain. And especially the preachers 
of the gospel should speak plain and easy 
words like Jesus did: If the world hate 
you, you know it hated me before it hated 

My old dear brother perhaps wishes to 
know if other preachers are set at nought 
like him. And I can speak for one, as 
the people say, I am one of the men that 
turn the world upside down, as did the 
apostles. And I am glad - of that, for if 
all men should speak well of me, I should 
know I was a false prophet. -So will they 
hire them to kill, steal, and destroy, all tho 
comfort and joy belonging to God's chil- 
dren that they can. And by so doing they 



the missionary Ashdod crew fulfil the 
scripture in perseeuling (he people of Go>l, 
and give them a witness that they are the 
sons of God: For all who will live godl}' 
in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution. 
They have carried pistols and dirks to the 
meeting house against me, and I withstood 
them to the face, and have escaped their 

• If I was to' write all the trials I have met 
with in contending for the faith, it would 
fill a volume. They, the missionary 
scribes .and pharisees think, if there was a 
search warrant to go through Georgia., there 
eould not he such a one as myself to he 
found. They say I make 

advocates the doctrine of the gospel accor- 
ding to apostolic practice; and being under 
some impressions and I have thought obli- 
gations, to do mv feelings justice to inform 
the Old School Baptists throughout the U. 
States of the rise, progress, prosperity and 
adversity of said denomination: I had much 
rather it could have been done by an aider 
pen, but fearing there was none that would 
do it, & knowing there were hut few in this 
Southern clime that can do it, for the want 
of ocular demonstration, or lint can say, I 
am an eye and ear witness of the following, 

I beg permi«sion to make a small digres- 
sion, for the sake of explanation; being horn 
in N. 0., Rowan county, near Salisbury, 
1771, in the revolution iry war; & about the 
year 1780 left said State, emigrating to 
what. is now State of Tennessee; & in 1733 
taking water on Holsleifi river, and in 
.March of the same year landed at Natchez, 
say they cannol; but that 1 stick too close | a Spanish province, and the papal hierar- 
to God's word to be popular. And I am ch'y reigned predominant, 
glad of that, for Jesus vyas as a root out of i And now, brethren editors, the reason why 
dry ground, without form or comeliness. I took this ramble was, to show my early 
And what- may we expect? if they called i location in this Southern clime; there- 
the master of the, house Belzebub, haw • fore I consider myself a Southern mail, 
much more they of his household and his ! A id the whole extent of population at that 
watchmen. My preaching brethren, be I time in said province, was not more than 

and spare the extent of a small county; the citizens 

IBt I S 

speak tust 

Iowa nee at 

am as Jesus did 

and that 1 strip the truth too naked, and 
that I have no right to do so; that Je- 
sus had a right to speak the truth, but 
1 have not. 1 have called on them to 
condemn me by the scriptures, and they 

strong in the faith; cry 

Dear brethren, 1 reckon poor old 3 Ir- 
ian thought he was alone, when they dig- 
ued down the altars of the Lord, and slain 

of the country being nearly all-Americans, 
but all under the papal jurisdiction. But 
the time had rolled, round when God in his 
providence thought proper to rend the vail 
the prophet-', and they sought his life; but of popish ignorance, audio disseminate the 
.see the. answer of God: 1 am persuaded ; pure doctrine of the gospd of king 1m- 
there are now more thin seven thousand, j manuel: about the years 1785, 6, 7, S, i), 
jihat never did nor never will bow the &c. 

knee to missionary idolatrous worship'.] It seems from the fruit that was produ.-. 
So, my good brethren, go on in the ! ced, that the great head of the church 
strength o* Elijah's God, and keep this pa- hid committed a dispensation of his gospel 
per in circulation, and use .the sling of pray- i to a Mr. Richard Curtis, a native of S. Car- 
er as did David, and Gofiah will ere long olina, but now a resident of this province, 
fall (.lead, and you may take the sword of I 1 can assert it boldly, fearless of successful 
the word of God and cut oil' his head. So, contradiction, that said R. Curtis was 
dear brethren, farewell for to-night, the first man that stept forward in the 
Yours in gospel bonds and love, in hope gospel hemisphere, to inveigh against and 
tit a better country of rest. | oppose the doctrines of popery & the errors 



Ilohncs count)/, Mississippi, } 
November 12, 18;>0. $ 
Dear brethren: The undesigned hav- 
ing enjoyed ihe opportunity of reading 
ihe Primitive Baptist paper, &. being much 
pleased with the same, believing that it. 

of the times, and to advocate the truths of 
the gospel according to apostolic practice. 
It is not my opinion that said Curtis was at 
that time even a licentiate, but be that as 
it may, his remonstrances& stern opposition 
to the iloct rines advocated by the papal hie- 
rachy incurred displeasure, and met 
with and called forth that imperious tone 
from the Revd. High Priest, silence and 
1 implicit obedience. But thus far, neither 



fearing men nor devil*, he propagated and 
disseminated the truth's of the gospel, and 
ihe Lord was pleased to hless the word to 
the good of soul?. At last the civil au- 
thority was invoked to suppress such he- 
resy,, and finding that the times were get- 
ting very warm", the only alternative was 
silence or go to prison. None baptised 
yet, no churches constituted; ;md said Cur- 
tis not being qualified to fill the different 
functions of the gospel, at the solicitation 
and counsel of his best friends he goes back 
into South Carolina his native Slate, and in- 
to the bosom of his old friends and brethren 
in the gospel; they becoming acquainted 
with his gift in the ministry, and being 
satisfied with the same, said Curtis wasor- 
dained to the ministry, under the wings and 
in connexion with the old Regular Baptists. 
Said brother now returns again to his 
friends in the South, fully authorized to fill 
the different functions of the gospel. This 
was just at or about the breaking of day, 
when the American jurisdiction spread 
her wings over the now State of Mississippi. 
In or about years 1S04, 5, 6, there were 
about five churches constituted, under the 
zealous and indefatigable labors of thai 
successful herald of the gospel. — Popish i 
fetters being broken, it seems as though j 
there was nothing now to fear; (but ala<, 
alas!) more of this in its place. 

Brethren Ediiors, I will say to you, 
that my name stands on record in the book 
of the first constituted church in this State. 
] also will say, that I was one of the delegates 
that were appointed to try the strength of 
churches, or to look info the propriety of 
forming ourselves into an Association; 
(this was July, 1S07;) which was carried 
in the affirmative, and that the different 
churches be and appear at the time and 
place with letter and delegates in October 
next, &.c. which was accordingly done and 
became a constituted body. In this lapse 
of time ministering breihren h a d emigrated 
from South Carolina and Georgia (viz: 
brethren D.Cooper, M. Hadly, T. IVlercer, 
and Courtney and subsequently others; all 
meeting & mingling togelher as a hand of 
-brothers indeed; all speaking the same 
1 hi ng and being perfectly joined together 
in the same mind and in the same judg- 
ment. Now was the lime when good 
feelings prevailed. Churches were edi- 
fied, Zion broke forth on the right hand, 
on the left; her stakes strengthened and 
h'^r cords lengthened; when the limits 
of the Mississippi Association became so 

exlensivc, that it was thought and became 
practicable to form others, all combining 
togelher as a united band of brothers, all 
constituted on the old Regular Baptist pre- plan. 

1 would not say how long, hut in a few 
years there was constituted the Union, the 
Pearl River,and Leal River A associations, 
and our tranquility lasted I think about 
fourteen or fifleen years. When alas, the 
enemy began to make inroads upon us by 
sending us young theologians from Ihe aca- 
demies as missionaries, who came in among 
us and said, we are of you. And the poor 
old Regulars not being always at their 
posi, with unsuspecting simplicity received 
them into their arms, their bosoms, and 
their pulpits, and dandled them on the 
knee. There being a train of them from 
the up country, all things appeared to a,o on 
well until those visitors had got well in the 
hearts and affections of the churches, and 
began to be looked up to as men of consid- 
erable weight and talent. Then it was 
that they began to vomit out their he- 
terodoxical sentiments, in all its multi- 
farious forms. Campbellism was what they 
appeared to advocate most slrcnuously^ 
after they bad gained weight and influence 
in ihe churches. 

And now, brethren, it is an undeniable 
fact, that char. :hes that were in good stan- 
ding and in good health apparently, were 
weie torn io pieces, and have never as yet 
regained their former standing; nor I think- 
(never will. — And not only churches, but 
[Associations; the Mississippi & the Union 
have been powerfully shookwith those seeds 
of corruption, and although those men are 
gone, they have lift the fruiis of their bane- 
ful and heterodoxical sentiments behind 
them, as a lasting memorial of their remem- 
brance, that :hey came in among us and 
said we are of you, and belong to the 
household of faith. And now, brethren 
Editors, this reminds me a liule of what 
! the apostle Paul saith, that afier my depart- 
1 ure wolves should enter in among lhem (the 
churches) not sparing the flock; but scat- 
tering, &c. and leading or drawing away 
disciples after them. 

Weil, the next Babel or ctfstlo, lhat was 
built in theair, was the Mississippi Baptist 
State Convention; when and weerc all the 
churches belonging to the different Asso- 
ciations must annually send up their dele- 
gates lo the same, with' their pecuniary 
1 lemittancestosupport theological schools to> 
educate young men in and for the minis-- 



try. And now after the same bad pro 
pressed a lillle &got so lhal it looked like it 
could stand on it legs, its features and 
forms to he discovered moid minutely, the 
old Regulars or some oftliem did not like 
its shapes, & finally saw the impropriety of 
such a iine of conduct, that it was not con- 
genial to or with the gospel plan; believing 
that God called and qualified his ministers 
for & to the work. And now down comes 
the building to the ground, because it could 
hot live without mdrrp.y. The Old 
School boys being now twice bit, begin to 
be a little more on their guard, and to stand 
aloof to things that they did not under- 
stand. Well directly from some part of 
the States in pours the general atonement 
doctrine, with its multifarious doctrine's, 
that Christ tasted death for every man 
equally alike, that all mankind are in asal- 
Vable state. Well the old regulars oppo- 
sed that doctrine strenuously.; believinglt to 
be false when weighing it in the balance 
of the sanctuary. Then up starts the effort 
system, with its multifarious train, fcem- 
pefandej Sunday School union, theological 
schools, which are generally known among 
us as the Missionary system. But the 
old Regulars cannot drink into such meas- 
ures, not believing them lo be apostolic. 
My remarks turn particularly an the 
abovementioned Association. There are 
others of recent date, where the isms pre- 
vail abundantly, with its gigantic stride's. 
The Primitive Baptist Association, to which 
1 profess to belong, has closed Iter doors 
against the above train of speculative no- 
tions, or moneyed institutions of the day, 
and I hope the day is not far distant, when 
allGod's dear children will listenwith atten- 
tion to that solemn and pathetic invitation, 

come: out of her, my people. 

In conclusion, I hold in my possession 
the first Minutes that was ever struck by 
type in this Southern part of the world, 
with the articles of faith, rules of decorum, 
and that for the term of thirty years and 
upwards the old Regulars are the same as it 
respects faith and practice, strictly and tena- 
ciously adheiingto the scriptures of truth 
as then* only rule of faith and practice, trus- 
ting and relying on the great head of the 
church to send them shepherds of his own 
choosing, that shall feed the flock with the 
sincere milk of the word, and not scatter 

Brethren Editors, the reason for my thus 
writingthe above us because 1 considered 
that it was a debt or a tribute that 1 

j wed lo the Old School Baptists Ihiouuh- 
oul the United States, that it might admin- 
ister some comfort to some of the North- 
ern Old School veterans to hear and un- 
derstand something from a Southern pen 
of the rise, progress, prosperity & adversity 
of the old regular Predistinarian Baptists iri 
this Southern clime. 

And as such I shall subscribe myself 
ever your'S in gospel bonds. Done bv a lay 
member. JOSEPH ERfVlN. 

I would Subjoin to the above and say,- 
that the churches composing thus Associa- 
tion, lowMtjthe Primitive Biptist Associa- 
tion which are about five, are not troubled 
with the new schemes of the day, but are 
in harmony. The Primitive paper has . 
had but recent introduction into those patts; 
but I can truly say, they are' read and re- 
ceived with cheerfulness; & 1 believe thenl . 
tOjiidvocate the apostolic practice & wish the 
same to be promulgated with entire suc- 
cess, &c. There is a great anxiety res- 
ting on the minds of the Old School Bap- 
tists in this section, that all the writings of 

■ o 
hrO. .]. Lawrence be collected, printed and 

published in form, for the benefit of the liv- 
ing and those that may succeed. 



Georgia, Carroll cmtnfy, ? 
Feb. 23, 1S40. <> 

Dkau Brethren: The cause of this 
scribble is, some few of us in this part of 
God's moral vineyard have had the oppor- 
tunity of reading the fourth volume of your 
valuable paper; and wc_are so well pleased 
with the writings, believing them to be' 
volumes- of truth; that we thought proper 
to write to you for the fifth volume. 

I do believe there are a great many people 
even in this Tallapoosa Association, that 
would stop the circulation of your valuable 
paper, and that in order to put down the' 
truth; for the time has come that they will 
not endure sound doctrine. There have some' 
crept into that Association, and have led 
some captive at their own will, and yoif 
know they do not love the truth, for that is 
that which shall make them tree; and this 
is not what this people want, for if the peo- 
ple are free, ihey will have to work with 
their own hands or beg, and to do that 
they are ashamed; or steal, and to do that 
they are afraid; and they seem to choose 
to swindle both church and people, suppo- 



£ing that gain is godliness, and from such 
the church of Christ should turn away. 

These people heap to themselves teach- 
ers having itching; ears — -for what? money 
and power} hut John declared anflsaid: A 
man can receive nothing except it be given 
him from heaven. If so, try to teach men 
to preach the gospel of the kingdom, or 
swindle them out of their money, to send 
to preach that that they have not learned of 
the Holy Ghost. Jas. ch. I, vs. 17: Every 
good gift and every perfect gift is from a- 
bove, and cometh down from the Father of 
light, with whom is no variableness neither 
shadow ofturning. 

Now if these things were from the be- 
ginning the gift of God, 'and he remains 
the very same yesterday, to day, and for 
ever God, & changes not; without variable- 
ness nor has the shadow of turning; is it 
not wickedness in the highest degree in 
professed Baptists, to be going about with 
their false doctrine and society systems to | 
delude the people and swindle them out of 
their money to support them in their lazi- I 

As every circumstance admonishes me to 
stop, I would just say to all God's people, 
0, that the God of all grace would enable 
you to contend earnestly for the faith once 
delivered to the saints. 

li. S. IMME1CK. 

lis, Strabane, Cor's Canaday, Ciravensoilte, Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbotts Creek, J. Lamb, Camden 
C.H, A, B. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C.T.Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 

kerson,We*tf Point, Isaac Alderman, Mo 

Creek t 

Mississippi, Lauderdale county, ~> 
March 3rd, 1840. ,*> 
Dear Brethren: I am not at home 
8t this time, or I would give you an ac- 
count of the dealings of Harmony church 
with myself and others. However. I will 
inform you that we Were excluded, because 
we would not support the mission cause; 
(the particulars We will give in our next. ) 

I must conclude by subscribing myself 
yours in the gbspeL 



North Carolina* — .1 . Biggs, Sen. Williamston, 
E. M. G. Moore, German/on. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washington, James Sou- 
therland, Wurrenton. Alfred Parltn, Raleigh, 
Charles Mason, Roxboro'. James Wilder, An- 
derson's Store. Ben). Bynum, Spei.glit , s Bridge. H< 
Avera, Averasboro' . Parham Packet, Richland s. 
3, H.Keneday, Chalk Level. B. Temple, Wake co. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leaksville. Wiin H. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, SmiihfieM. 
James H.Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Fruit, San-' 
dy Creek, L. B. Bennett, Heal hvi lie. Alfred El- 

James Miller, Milton. Park. 

South Carolina. — Win, Hardy, Saluda Will, 
James Hembree, Sen. Anderson C. H. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. R, Lawrence, Effingham, 
James Buiris, Sen. Bold. Spring. William S. 
Shaw, Bock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackvillc. Arf- 
drew Westmoreland, Gasliville, James J.i Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Branch. Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers, Crowsville, Marsha! Mc- 
Graw, Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cookharu's; 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDonough. John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P.M. Cal- 
houn, Knoxville. R. Reese, Eatonlon. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Noel, James Hollingsworth and Stephen 
CastelloW, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bowioin, Ai'lairsville. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatoie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. John Gayden, Franhlin. P. 
H. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, Thou-* 
aeton. William Bowden, union Valley. Ezra Mc- 
Crtfry, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. John Lassetter f Vernon. B. Pace, Vari 
Wert. L.PeacockjTJassville. Vachal D.Whatley, 
Barnesville. Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice,- 
Mount Monte. Elias O. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt, 
J, G. Wintringham, Halhca. William Mr 
Amos, GrecnviWe. Randolph Arnold, Lati- 
mer's Store. Thomas .L Onsemore, Clinton. 
JWiah Stovall, AquiWa. G. P. Cannon, Culloden- 
ville. Jason Gricr, Tnaian Sp?-ings. William' 
McElvy, Altapulgus. Furna Ivey, Mil/edirevitlc.- 
William Garrett, Cotton River, Jesse Moore, 
George Herndon and John Hardie, Ir- 
win ton. Leonard Pratt, Whitesville. Ed- 
war d Jones, Decatur. Thomas J. Johnson, .New- 
nan" Israel Hendon, Shilo. Robert B. Mann* 
Chen/nut Grove. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove* 
Joh Lawhon, Chenuba. John Herington, Wel- 
bom^s Mills. James Pi Ellis, P'tneville, F. Ha<r- 
gard, Alliens. H. Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Valley. Josiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
O'Neelj Fowl/on. John Applewhite, Waynesboro' t 
J.B.Morgan&.B,PiRouse,i<V/eHr/.s/»jp. Sam'l wil- 1 
linms, Fair Play. John Wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hoolensville. Ri S. Hamrick, Carrolllon, 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Kloses Daniel, Bowery, Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, Blakely, Asa- 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'rr 
Tarversvillc, John Stroud, Jteridall. James Scar- 
borough, S/atutbortngh, Young T, Standifer T 
Mulberry Grove, Robert R. Thompson, Centrc- 
ville. YoungTi Star.difeT, Mulberry Grove. Ja- 
red Johnson, Trouprille. Kindred Braswelf, 
Duncansville. Edmund Si Chambless, ^fallings 
Store. James w« Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dnmas, Johnsfonville. David Rowell, Jr. Groo 
versville. Joel Colley, Covington, W. w. Pool, 
Columbus. Benjamin C. Burns, Villa Rlcca, 

Alabama. — L.B. Moseley, Cahuruba. A. Ken- 
ton, McConico. John BVackstone, La Fay'ette. W. 
w. Carlisle, Frcdonia. Henry Dance, Haniel's 



Prairie. Wis. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'l 
Gaffon!, Greenville. Samuel Moore, 'S'.^oiw /////. 
John G. Walker, Milton. Henry Williams, Ha- 
tana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron, James 
Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Chureh Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Lc.igli.ton. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn, Josiah Jones. Jack- 
ton. David .lacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her. 
rin;j, Clayton. G. w. Jeter,. Pint La/a, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pl'.asant Grove. William Crutcher, 
Iluntsville. William 11. Cook, Pickensnille. 
Seaborn Hamrick, Plcmlersville. .William Mel- 
ton, Bluf Port. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Win. 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus Daniel, Jamestdn, An- 
derson w. Bullard, Pusgegee. Frederick Hines- 
Gaston, Z.Johns, Tiara, Eli M cD o n al d ,• Pains- 
tille. A. Mitchell, Cartels Will. William Pow- 
ell, Youngsville. John Brown, Wueoozu, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville.' David Treadweli 
and 11. w. Cai lisle, Mount Hickory, Sam'l T.Owen, 
Argus, Joseph H.Holloway, H'tzle Green, L\ike 
R. Simmons, 'Proy. Jesse Leo, Farruersville, 
William S. Armstrong 1 , LouitvVle. Mark Porter, 
Demopolis, HenryAdams, Mount Willing, Joel 
H. Chambless, Louisville. Elliot Thomas, Wil- 
tiamsfon. F.'Pickett, China drove, James Gr'urri- 
Mes, Benton. John M. Pearson, Dadcville. W. 
J. Sorelle, We'umpka, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
, ville, Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, Soukeehutchic. James Searcy, Irwinfoh. 
Haza'ei Litllefield, Ten Islands. John w. Pedum, 
FrankMn, Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D. Cooper, Wi\- 
]iamston, John Harrell. Missouri. James K, 
Jacks, Ell/on. Henry Billiard, BtMville. John 
A. Miller, OaV.fuskee. Durham Kelly, Alexan- 
dria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Alliens, William 
Thomas, Prospect Ridge. John Bishop, Jun'r. 
Crocket Isvi lie. James Gray, Cuscla. Thomas L. 
Robert s,.ii/»n>-oet>/ lie. 

Tennessee. — A. V. Farmer, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
chael Burkhalter, Ch'ceksville, Tho's K, Clingau, 
Simtli'i X Roads. W.E. Pope, Philadelphia, Aaron 
Coiupton, Somcrvillc, Charles Henderson, Finery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, Meesville. James 
Maulden, Van Buren. A. Burroughs, Wesley. Win. 
Croom, Jackson. Sfon Bass, Three Forks, John w. 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hanshrough, Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Wrtchester. Isliam 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Scviervi/le. 
Thos. B.Yezles,Lynchb<arg, C.T. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron 'I'ison, Medon. Levi Kirkla'nd and George 
Turner, Wuverly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysvillc, Pleasant. A. Witt, Cheek's 
W Roads, J i Cooper, Unioaville. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. JaSi H. Holloway, Hazel 
Green, William McBee, Old Town Creeki Ben- 
jamin w. Harrret, Ckcrryvillc, Robert Gregory, 
Carouth's y, Boads. 

Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Spring*.. 
Thos Holland, Daihille W of sham Mann Columbus. 
Henry Pet ty, Zion. Wm. Hiuhllest.on, Thomas/on. 
Nathan Tims, Kosciusko. Jonathan D. Cain, Wa- 
icrford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 
Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris, 
Wheeling. Simpson Park's, Lockharfs Store, 
Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, Wm. Bin^o, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 

and Thomas H. Dixon. Macon, .fofin Erwiri,' 
Li-j,khor n c, Herbert. I). Buckhnm, Poidotoe, Wil- 
liam Davis, Uouston. Eli Miller and Mieajali 
Crenshaw, Mtariit/it Win. Warren, Dekalb, C. 
Nichols, Slump Bridge. Wooten Hill, CooksviWei 

Florida. — James Alderman and P, Blount; 
China Hill. David Callaway, Cherry Hike. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, Marburyville. — ■ 
Thomas Paxfon, Greensboro'. Uriah SleveiiSj 
Pine G'-ove. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferrrnson, Jackson. 

Illinois. — Richard M: Newport, Grand Vine, 
James Marshall, Salem. Thomas w. Martin; 
East Nelson. 

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VOL. 5. 

SATURDAY, APRIL 25, 1840. 

No. 8. 



Georgia, Warren county, 
January 1, 1840. 
De\R beloved Editors: Having at 
present a litile spare time. I have conclu- 
ded for the first time to write you a few 
lines; the perusal of which will give you 
to understand a few of my thoughts con- 
cerning th© new institutions of the day, 
falsely called benevolent. I hear the mis- 
sionaries say: 0, give give unto the Lord. 
Now if the missionaries' Bible is like my 
Bible it says, ask and it shall be given unto 
you — for the Lord has a plenty laid up 

charitable. The Lord deliver us I pray 
from such a course or state of things, and 
enable us to abide in the simplicity of his 
all-sufficient word. 

I have never seen in ray Bible any of these 
new institutions, such as the missionary 
society, temperance society, Sunday school 
Union, &c. Now the missionaries say, it is a 
doggish disposition»for to want to drink a 
dram; but I think it is a wolfish disposition 
for a preacher to get up to preach, and beg 
for money instead of preaching the gospel. 
Now I recollect a few years ago the mission- 
aries said, I go in for the temperance soci- 
eties, looth and toe nail; but they said, 
I am in debt, I must make a little bran- 
dy this year to sell to pay my debts. 

Now I have never used tobacco in my 
life in any way, but because 1 have never 

in store, without money or price. Now . used the article, does that authorise me to 
if the Lord had meant money, he would say no man shall buy nor sell any quantity 

have said, pay and you shall receive, 

Now, ray dear beloved editors, when I 
see a preacher get up to preach, and be- 
gin to beg for money, I conclude the devil 
must have sent that man to preach; for 

Bible says, it pleased God through the i stick. 

foolishness of preaching to save them I So the missionaries are calling on the 
that believe. There are a great many say- 1 Legislature to make laws to take away the 
ing in those days, that the poor heathen j people's liberty, when at the very same 
are dying and going to hell for the lack of : time they are not willing to come under 

he pleases? for I should not call that liberty. 
Neither do 1 call it liberty to get behind 
the door to take a dram, as I heard some 
say, when you take a dram you must get 
behind the door. But my Bible does not 
Bible does not tell me that God I tell me, when I light a candle to put it un- 
men Jo preach for money, but my | der a bushel, but to put it on a candle- 

money, and saying, O, give, give to save 
the poor heathen; and say if they had mon- 
ey enough they would Christianise the 
whole world. Now 1 believe that God will 
carry out his plan ofsalvation,in spiteof mo- 
ney , men or devils. But, dear editors, ma- 
ny in this dark day seem disposed to admit 
any and almost every thing that comes in 
the name of the Lord, whether scriptural 
or not, just so its objects are professed to be 

those laws themselves. Still the missionaries 
are crying, liberty, liberty; but the mission- 
aries say, make a law so no man shall buy 
nor sell spirits in less quantity than five, 
ten, or fifteen gallons; ihey say that would 
be a good law for poor folks and negroes. 
So if that is what they are after, they 
had better say that poor people nor negrees 
shall not have a drop, but shall give what 
they have to spare to the missionary beg- 



gars, who are too lazy to work for their 
Jiving, but had rather beg. So I close, with 
my best wishes for your paper. 

J1SJI McCl&lRY. 


Pittsylvania county, Va. ? 
January 1st, 1S40. > 

Dear Brethren: And beloved, I hope, 
of the Lord. lam on the land yet among 
the living, and am In common henlth and 
enjoy life as well as I can, in the midst of 
opposition, as to my religious principle. 
But I believe it is by the goodness of God 
that I am thus blessed, and according to 
his eternal purpose; and not for any thing I 
have done or can do. No, it is not'} for it is 
of his own purpose. 

Therefore, brethren, I wish to thank the 
God of Israel, and love that God more and 
serve him better, that brought salvation un- 
to us. For he is a God of power, good- 
ness, and mercy; therefore we, brethren, 
are not consumed by the wicked men 
of this day, by their craft of — Lo, here is 
religion, or there; which we see so 
much of in this day of lies and darkness. 

Now, my brethien, 1 do not think it is 
because I am so much wiser or better than 
some of these traditionist«, that I should 
be taught the truth; no, I do not, for there 
are but few of them but what have had as 
good or better a chance as concerns the 
wisdom of this world than I have; &.as con- 
cerning the world to come, none of us can 
understand it to any purpose, until the God 
of Israel direct or draw us by his spirit 
to seek him aright. For it is written, the 
goodness of God leads men to repentance; 
and it is not of him that wills, nor of him 
that runs, but of God that shows mercy. 
And so I can say, if I am any thing good, 
it is of God; or, by grace I am what 1 am. 
So I owe the society men nothing. 
And if I am a fool, 1 hope my brethren 
will receive me as such, and pray God to 
make me wise unto salvation. For he has 
said, he that lacks wisdom, let him ask of 
God, who giveih to all liberally and up- 
braideth not. So you my brethren see it 
is of God, and not of men; so I will not 
ask you for that, that is of God. 

But I see those society men teaching 
their congregations how to getreligion, and 
then tell some of them that they have reli- 
gion, and so deceive their fellow creatures; 
which makes me say what I do say, that 
they do not know the truth, or they 

would not or could not deceive their feffowr 
creatures so. No they would not. But 
I believe it is the blind leading the blind, 
and they all will fall into the ditch, with 
all their societes, if God does not prevent. 
So we can do nothing for them but tell 
them the truth, and pray to God to make 
them understand the same, if consistent 
with his will. And if he doe«, then they 
will forsake their former traditions of 
men and will say, religion is all of God ; but 
not all sorts of religion. For, brethren, I 
believe that the devil has more religion 
now in "this world than Jesus has, and 
does make more fuss over it than Jesus 
does. So I do not "mind the noise of the 
Ishmaelites, for it will all come to nought. 

So, brethren, we need not fear; for it is 
not of God, so it will fall : For gFeater is he 
that is for us, than he that is against us. 
So we nerd not fear, but trust in him who 
works all things after the counsel of his 
own will; and let us pray him to en- 
able us to keep his commands, for we 
of ourselves cannot please God. Why? 
because we are as prone to do evil a» 
the sparks are to go up; and when we 
would do good, evil is present with as, 
&c. So we must trust the whole to God, 
and beg him, when he gives as the spirit 
to beg, to make us and keep us just 
such creatures as he will have us to be. 
For every good and perfect gift is of God. 
And again: All things shall work to- 
gether for good to them that love God 
and are the called according to his pur- 

So, brethren, I am not afraid of our lib- 
erty being taken from us; nor am I 
afraid of those society men, with all their 
petitions; no, I am not, for God gave us our 
liberty & he can keep it by his own almighty 
power. But we should watch them, and 
shove every chunk in their way that God 
will give us. And I am glad to see so ma- 
ny of my brethren chunking them with 
such chunks as the devil with his lackies 
cannot move nor overset them. Sogoon, 
and fear not what men can do to you; but 
trust in God, who can deliver his people 
and will do so. 

Now I will tell you, how some of our 
temperance men do in this section. They 
say they are not of the temperance society, 
for they have not joined it, so they are not 
of it; yet they will protect them. And 
one of I hem has been a stiller, and since he 
has got so temperate, he cannot still. 
There was application made lo him lo buy 



his Still; he could not sell it, but got his friend 
to sell it for him. Now had he not better- 
have sold it himself? I say he had. And 
he is in favor of the Legislature making 
a law to stop retailing of spirits, though lit 
will get his friend to sell his still. So 
you can see they will sneak. 

Hut I will give you, my brethren, 
a small sketch of what is called temperance 
logic. Once I was talking with a man on 
ihis subject, and beseemed to think it was 
right not to use any spirits; and I told him 
if he could prove it, I would believe him. 
And h<: said to me, do you understand the 
rule of logic? 1 said 1 did not. He 
then said, he could prove it by sound lo- 
gic. I told him to go on, and he ihen ask- 
ed me how much whiskey would make me 
drunk? I told him 1 did not know. He 
then.said will half a pint make you drunk? 
1 said, I believe it would make me so 
drunk, that I could not hold to the grass. 
Then, said he, if half a pint will make you 
drunk, then half of it will make you half 
drunk,& thefounh will make you t lie fourth 
part drunk. So he proved it by temper- 
ance logic, which he says is sound; and it 
is as sound as their temperance, for they 
both are from the father of lies, and are not 

For, brethren, you can see if one pound 
of fat bacon put into a man at one time 
will make him sick, then the half of it will 
make him half sick; so if you eat the fourth 
part you are the fourth part sick. So you 
temperance men must quit the u.-e of all the 
blessings thatGod hath given to men,orquit 
your logic. And again, when you travel 
you know if you give your horse one half 
bushel of shelled corn and he eats it, he 
is foundered; so you must not give him 
the half of it, else he is half foundered; nor 
the fourth of it, or he is the fourth founder- 
ed; so you cannot feed him at all. Then 
see how far he can travel. 

So nothing more, but a hint to the wise 
is enough. Farewell. May the Lord 
bless his bride, whh a right under- 
standing of him. 



Alabama, Conecuh county, ) 
March \2th, 1840. 5 
Brethren Editors! 1 have received 
six copies of your valuable paper, the Prim- 
itive Baptist. 1 hope that you will contin- 
ue sending them on this year, for I can S3y 

of a truth, that I am very much gratified in 
reading the sentiments they contain. I can 
say that when I compare the doctrine of 
the Primitive Baptist, it in my weak judg- 
ment completely harmonizes with the doc- 
trine of the apostles and prophets. 

And, brethren, as I purpose to be short, 
and seeing in these Primitive papers, that 
you gel almost daily information through- 
out these United States, of the troubles and 
distresses brought on God's people in the 
churches throughout this Union; and, bre- 
thren, these troubles and distresses were 
brought on by deep laid schemes and in- 
ventions, by missionary Ishmaelite priests, 
that never received any thing from God, 
and it is to be feared never will. And 
Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egypiian 
which she had borne to Abraham mocking; 
wherefore she said unto Abraham, cast 
out this bond woman and her son, for the 
son of this bondwoman shall not be heir 
with my son, even with Isaac. And the 
thing was very grievous in Abraham's 
sight, because of his son. And God said 
unio Abraham, let it not be grievous in thy 
sight, because of the lad and because of thy 
bond woman. In all that Sarah hath said 
unto thee, hearken unto her voice, for in 
Isaac shall thy seed be called. Genesis, xxi. 
c. 9, 10, 11, 12 vs. 

So, brethren, it is very easy to discover, 
if you will notice pretty close, between the 
true heir and the bond woman's son, by 
this one mark that they all carry. Whenever 
you see one mocking, you may set him 
down lor an Ishmaelite. 

I must come to a close, and suffer me to 
subscribe myself, yours in brotherly 
love in the Lord. 



Georgia, Merriwether county, 3 
St pi. 16/ h, 1839. «, 
Brethren Editors: Having recently 
returned from a visit to Crawford county, 
and while there understood that a certain 
man, his name I did not learn, had pass- 
ed through that section and reported 
that I had changed to a moneyed. mission- 
ary; and having had in my heart for soma 
time to give you a few of my thoughts 
on that subject, but now being rather urg- 
ed into it not only from this but several 
other reports of ihe same nature, I have 
thought fit to give you some of my vie*vs 
on the commission that Christ gave to hia 



apostle?, according, to St. Mark, lGth chap 
and 15, 16, 17, IS, and 20th verses. And 
when I am done, you will perceive where 
I stand. And he said unto them, Go ye 
into all the wot Id and preach the gospel 
to every creature. He that believeth and 
is baptised shall be saved; but he that be- 
lieveth not, shall'be damned. And these 
signs shall follow them that believe: In 
my name shall they cast out devils; they 
shall speak with new tongues; they shall 
take up serpents, and if ihey drink any 
deadly thing, it shall not hint them; they 
shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall 
recover. And they went forth, and preach- 
ed every where, the Lord working with 
them, and confirming the words with signs 
following. Amen. 

Now J am informed the word apostle 
means missionary; this information 1 have 
received from among them that affect, to 
bear that name and say, that they are acting 
under the same authority and commis- 
sion as quoted in the text above. For, say 
they, the commission of Christ has never 
yet been fulfilled in this particular; for thu 
major part of the world lies in brutal 
ignorance, and they must hear the gospel 
and missionaries cannot go to them 
without the means of conveyance; which 
is attended with vast expense. Hence 
you see at once, the necessity of all our in- 
stitutions. I will now take the text as it 
stands, and show that all this ado has 
arisen either from a religious frenzy or a 
blind zeal. 

And first, the men whom Christ ad- 
dressed were the eleven only, as is evident; 
for he appeared unto the eleven as they sat 
at meat, and said, Go ye, &c. Aftei wards 
he appeared unto Paul, which makes the 
twelve apostles. Hence I conclude, 
there never were but twelve mission- 
aries in the full sense of that term; 
which I will presently show. For Paul, 
when enumerating the various gifts 
and diversities of administrations says: 
God hath set some in the church, first, 
apostles; secondarily, prophets, &x. 
Here we see he makes a distinction, from 
which I conclude, that none ever had that 
office but the twelve. For we hsa-F Paul 
saying, when speaking of himself and Apol- 
los, I have planted', Apollos watered, &c. 
And furthermore, I as a wise master buil- 
der have laid the foundation, and another 
buiUeth thereupon. And again, so have I 
gtfiyed to preach where Christ was not na- 
med, lest 1 should build upon another man's 

foundation. All from which it seems id 
me, that the apostles were men sent to plant 
churches and lay the foundation (Jesus 
Christ) in heathen lands; and others being 
raised up in those churches, should build 
as in the case of Apollos. For these apos- 
tles were wayfaring men, having no certain- 
dwelling place, and as it were, appointed 
first unto death, and were as the filth and 
off-couring of all things; were set in front 
and went before. 

And now, as I intend to be as concise 
as possible on this subject, I will prove 
that these twelve fulfilled that commission 
according to the text. For we hear Paul 
saying, in the first chapter of his epistle to 
the churches of Colosse, and 5 and 6 verses: 
For the hope which is laid up for you in 
heaven, whereof ye heard before in the 
word of the truth of the gospel, which is 
come unto you, as it is in all the world, &c. 
And 23 verse, same chap, he says: If ye 
continue in the faith, grounded and settled, 
and be not moved away from the hope of 
the gospel which ye have heard, and which 
was preached to every creature which is 
under heaven, whereof I Paul am made 
a minister. Also, in confirmation of this, 
he says in his epistle to the Romans, I 
chap, and 8 verse: First, 1 thank my God 
through Jesus Christ for you all, that your 
faith is spoken of throughout the whole 
world, &c. Also, in 10 chap. &1S verse he 
says: But I say, have they not heard? yes, 
verily theirsound went into all the earth, 
and their words unto the end of the world. 
Mark that word, the end of the world, 
does not mean the end of time, but precisely 
answers to that word of Christ which says: 
And lo, I am with you alway, even anto 
the end of the world — which means to the 
end of the inhabitants, and does not mean 
all the meanderingsof the earth; but in the 
same sense, that there went out a decree 
from Cassar Augustus, that all the world 
should be taxed. Be it known, therefore, 
unto you, that the salvation of God has 
been sent unto the Gentiles, and they have 
heard it. 

Bar. admit for a moment, that it has not, 
(which I by no means believe,) then in that 
case where will we find the men that, can 
leave the signs that should follow,as spoken 
of in the 20 verse of the text? we know of 
none. From this consideration, 1 find 
that the apostles exclusively possessed this- 
power. For 1 learn from the scriptures, 
that these signs followed every one that 
ever did believe under an apostle's prea- 



clung, or in the days of the apostles; f 
which was a seal lo (heir apbstl'eship. 
For in the 9 chap, of Paul's first let- 
ter to the Corinthans, 2 verse, he says: For 
the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the 
Lord. So we see that here he speaks of 
them as a seal. And again, Eph. 1 chap 
13 verse, he says: After that ye believed, 
ye were sealed wiih that holy spirit of pro 
mise. So it is evident, all that ever be- 
lieved in the days of the aposile, were pos- 
sessed of someone of those gifts spoken of 
in the text; and in this sense it is called the 
sp ; rit of promise; not only that it was pro- 
mised in the commission, but also prom- 
ised of God by the mouth of Joel the 
prophet. Joel, 2 chap. 28, 29 verses: 
And it shall come to pass, afterwards, that 
J will pour out my spirit upon all flesh, 
(meaning Jew and Gentile, that believe,) 
and your sons and your daughters shall pro- 
phecy; your old men shall dream dreams; 
your young men shall see visions; and also 
upon the servants and upon the handmaids, 
in those days will I pour out my spirit. So 
we find that some had the gift of tongues, 
some the gift of the interpretation of tongues, 
some the discerning of spirits, &c. Now, 
says Paul, tongues are for a sign, not to them 
that believe, but to them that believe not. 
And we find when Philip had preached to 
a city of Samaria, and they believed Philip's 
preaching, the)' were baptised, both men 
and women. And when the apostles at 
Jerusalem heard of it, they sent unto them 
Peter and John; and when they had laid 
their hands upon them, they received the 
Holy Ghost. So we find in the case of the 
twelve men that Paul found, which had been 
baptised unto John's baptism; when he laid 
hishandsupon them they received the Holy 
Ghost and prophecied. Also, read the 7 
chap, of the gospel by John, and 39 verse; 
and 14 chap, and 26 verse. Also, 20 
ehap. and 22 verse. Also, Acts, I chap, and 
8 verse. Also, 2 ehap. and 4 verse; and 
3S verse; and 10 chap, and -15 and 46 ver- 
ses; and many others which I might en- 
umerate. But Jet these suffice. From 
all of which I conclude, none but the 
Jwelve ever bore tins commission. Hence 
none but twelve men ever were missiona- 
ries, and he that pretends to be one under 
this commission, tn'sulis he apostleship and 
offends the throne of God, whence 
this commission emanated. 

Well, then, if this be true, say our oppo- 
nents, by what auihoiity do you ministers 
preach and baptize? I have shown that 

they were builders, as in the case of Apollo". 
But. we find the same question was asked 
our master, and his answer shall serve for 
mine to them; but if any of our Old School 
brethren are difocullcd on this subject, 
I answer them, that our authority is from 
heaven, according to what Paul has said in 
the 20 chap, of Acts and 28 verse: Take 
heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all 
the flock over the which the Holy Ghost 
hath made you overseer, to feed the church 
of God, which he hath purchased with his 
own blood. And in Peter's first epistle, 
5 chap, and 2 verse: Feed the flock of 
God, which is among you, taking the over- 
sight thereof; not bv constraint, but wil- 
lingly ; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready 

Hence I conclude, brethren, that we 
as ministers have nothing to do with hea- 
then lands in preaching, for this gospel 
of the kingdom has been preached in all 
the world for a witness, that they were in 
idolatry and serving no gods. For, says 
Paul, in Romans, first chapter: Because 
that which may be known of God is mani- 
fest in them; for God hath showed it unto 
them. Hence, through this gospel they 
have been brought to the knowledge of one 
living and true God. But as they did not 
like to retain God in their knowledge, he 
has given them up to do ihose things 
which are not convenient; who have chang- 
ed his truth into a lie (just like the new 
have done at this day) and have worshiped 
and served the creature more than the crea- 
tor. Yes, have fallen back, after having 
been informed through the gospel, to the 
worship of imag' s, made like to corrupti- 
ble man, then birds, four fooled beasts, and 
creeping things. Now as God has given 
them up in ebstst-quehee of these things, it 
is presumption for any man or set of men 
to attempt to preach the gospel there. 
And 1 am satisfied, that those that are sent 
there with those that send them, arc very 
similar lo themselves. This 1 believe from 
theifown reports, as well as daily observa- 

15ut the objection may be made to t! is 
view from the fact, that Jesus has said: 
This gospel of the kingdom must first be 
preached in ail the world for a witness, 
and tfo'fch shall the end come. To this \ 
answer, that Christ wss speaking of a very 
different thing from the end of time, as 
generally believed; for in the same chapter 
he speaks of a tribulation that should come 
on them people first, and says, immediately 



an er the tribulation of those days shall the 
san be darkened and 1 he moon shall not 
give her light. And another evangelist 
says: In those days after that tribulation, 
&c. which tribulation evidently was the 
sufferings and destruction of the Jews 
And not only them, but a similar des'ruc- 
tion that God intended to sen 1 upon the 
whole inhabited world; but that the 
gospel should first he preached among 

And the three evangelists that speak of 
these tilings, all say in the conclusion: This 
generation shall not pass away, till a'l these 
things shall befulfilled. And Matthew says, 
16 chap. 27, 28 verses: For the Son of 
man shall come in the glory of his Father, 
with his angels, and then he shall reward 
*-very man according to his works. Verily 
T say unto you, there be some standing 
here which shall not taste of death till they 
see the Son of man coming in his king- 
dom. And in another place it is said: 
And then shall they see the sign of the Sot] 
of mnn,&e. Which is plain, that Christ, did 
not the end of time, as supposed, hut 
only in the same sense ih it the apostle Paul 
speaks of Christ's advent into this world, 
saying: But now once in the end of I ho 
world hath he appeared, to put »w y sin 
by the Sacrifice of himsslf. And again, 
speaking of the overthrow of the children 
of Israel in the wilderness, he says: On 
whom the end of the world is come. 

Now to prove forth' r, that the end spo- 
ken of there, meant nothing more than a 
visit of his wrath upon" the nations, and 
that he intended to finish the work es- 
pecially with the .lews and cut it short in 
righteousness, for except he had shortened 
those days there should have been no 
flesh sived, I will cite you to Isaiah. 1 3 
chap. 10 — 13 verses; also, 3d chap.4 verse; 
fllso, Ezekiel, 32 chip. 7 verse; also, Joel, 
2 chap. 10, 31 verses; also, Amos .5 chap 20 
verse; and 8 chap. 9 verse; also, Zephania'"), 
1 chap. 15 verse; which I enjoin upon you 
to read, and which 1 think will he mffi 
cient to convince you. that the end spoken 
of did not mean the end of time. 

Now from a misunderstanding of thore 
prophecies, we fled there were many er- 
roneous views even among the disci 
plea of Christ concerning Lis kingdom, 
as having received those principles 
from the blind scri c-: for say they. 
at a certain tunc. Lord, will th u at thi.s 
timf! restore a ga in the kingdom to Israel' 

And we hear the two diseiples going fo 15- 
maus saying, and we trusted it had been he should have redeemed Israel. But 
ChristchargesPeler concerning these things 
saying, when thou art converted, stiength- 
en thy brethren --for as yet t,he Holy 
Ghost had not taken of the things which 
was Christ's and showed it unto them, 
for he had not vet ascended to his Father. 

Now as I said before, t;iey having imbi- 
bed erio ".ems no ions from the scribe-', of 
his kingdom b dug an earthly kingdom, 
and supposing that he would set up a king- 
dom tint should be perfect, and that he 
would destroy all the sinners out of it, 
according to the prophecy of Malae.hi, List 
chap, (read it) and that he would destroy 
the temple, and in three days raise it up a 
much more magnificent one than the one 
then standing, they make the enquiry: 
When shall these things be, and what shall 
be the sign of thv coming, and of the end 
of the world? lint after Jesus was glori- 
fied, and the Holy Ghost had f.dlen upon 
them, as at Ihe day of Pentecost, Peter 
standing op with Ihe eleven tells them 
now, that this is that which was spoken hv 
Joel the prophet. So you can read in the 
prophesy of Jord, and in the rest of the 
prophets as cited above, Christ spake 
in the figurative sense, quoting verbatim 
what the prophets had spoken. Now Pe- 
ter can strengthen his brethren, being con- 
verted to understand that Christ's kingdom 
is not of this world; as you will find in his 
first epistle gener d. 

And now, brethren. 1 have merely sketch- 
ed along. -it a proof of these things, believing 
tha.t you will understand these living* fully, 
remembering the charge thai Christ gave his 
disciples saying: If any s"ni!l say, lo here, 
or lo there, believe it not. And we see that 
many are saving, lo here, and lo there; this 
they did then, and this they du now, thio' 
covetousne«s. i mean their lexlejs, de- 
ceiving and being deceived, wl.ile many 
follow their pernicious ways, by reason 
of whom the way of truth is evil spoken 
of. And at this t iaio they are converting 
the people, it being 'he season of the year 
fiat their converting spirit comes to 
operate on the minds of the people; from 
whence I cannot tell, except it is from that 
place they speak so much about; ihit is, 
where there is so much lire and brimstone. 
For if 1 should judge from his appearance, 
uid time he visits our land, I should say 
he uas a native of a warm climate, 

yvfevfiii was thou taken away by the Romans. ' as you know he always comes in the warm. 



eeason of the year, and lakes his exit as 
soon as the chilliness of autumn comes on. 
Also very accomodating, for this is a lei- 
sure lime, when the people have a respite 
from their farms. 

But as money is the mainspring that 
propels the effort system, and cotton is the 
staple commodity of our country, he leaves 
our land with an assurance, that if they 
do well in gathering, and get a good 
price, that he will return again the nest 
year at the set time, that is, in July, 
Angust &. Septemher, and will remain until 
towards the close of the last named month. 
But we know in whom we have be- 
lieved and our God is omnipotent rind 
reigneth; he is Lord of lords and King of 

So, brethren, let us adhere to his counsels, 
and let us run with patience the race that is 
set before us, looking unto Jesus (he au- 
thor and finisher of our faith. For yet a 
little while, and he that shall come, will 
come and will not tarrv, and when he 
comes he will upset the foundation of Ba- 
byl m, the mother of all those harJols, (the 
mission institutions;) which harlots the 
New School hive affected to put to bed 
with our Lord, in, order to bring into exis'- 
tence that seed whieh our God sware to 
Abraham concerning, in that they hive 
amalgamated both church and world to- 
gether, and say they are no v going to make 
Abraham a father of many nations, and are 
exercising all the authority that they may of 
1he first beast, saying unto the people, that 
they shall make an image to the beast, that 
had a wound by a sword and did live and 
still lives. This image is already formed 
in some of its paris, and petitions now to 
the Slate' Legislature to give it life; and 
when it gets life, it will speak (by an act 
of law) and cause that as many as will 
not worship the image, shall be killed; and 
that no man shall buy nor sill, except it is 
he that has the mark of the image in his 
right hand, (that is, has put his hand to their 
institutions,) or in his forehead (puhlic 
defence of it.) or ihe number of his name, 
(give their money.) So here wo find is 
the patience and faith of the saints. 

So, brethren, endure hardness as good 
soldiers, be s'rong, be of good cheer, be of 
one mind; live in peace, and the God of 
peace shall be with you. Yours in gospel 

Hear counsel, and receive instruction, 
that thou may est be truly wise. 


Carroll county, Tennessee, 
January, 1840. 
Deak Brethren: Who are faithful in 
Christ, that are scattered throughout these 
United States and territories, and to the 
world. Grace be unto you, and peace from 
God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, 
who hath loved us, &c. ere the world be- 

Dear brethren, I am a new writer, this 
is my firstatlempt before the public. I de- 
sign in n short manner to give you the out- 
lines of what has prompted me so to do. 
Before 1 enter into a full detail of the few 
out of many, I will state to my brethren 
that I have been favored with a few numbers 
of the Primitive Baptist, and 1 like it very 
well, as it promulgates the true doctrine 
(in my belief,) and delects error. Those 
brethren appear to build on the apostles 
and prophets, and the Lord Jesus being 
the chief corner stone. 1 rejoice to think 
the Lord has reserved to himself seven 
thousand that have not bowed the knee to 
ihe Diana of the day, viz: modern mission- 
ism, with all her trumpery. Now to my sub- 

Dear brethren, we were once all of one 
speech and of one language, but we have 
'some amongst us that: can not say Shibbp- 
| leth; they say Sihbolelh. So brethren, 
! you see we are a mixed multitude; we 
i have been marrying«nd giving in marriage 
with the Ashdodish children, and now tho 
1 Lord has chastised us for our folly, There 
have been some new-fangled Babel build- 
ers around amongst us, to spy out our lib- 
erties, and lo sow the seeds of discord and 
! confusion amongst us. They endeavor to 
• perpetuate it (through the instrumentality 
i.'of their periodicals,) by telling the people 
how far they have got on with the build- 
I ing; a little more monpy and it will be ac- 
complished. They are like the ancient 
Babel buiders who started a new route 
' to heaven, unauthorised by the great Je- 
hovah, and have caused this great confu- 

Dear brethren, do we not see a mourn- 
ing in Zion, and a weeping in Jerusalem, 
for the cause of my blessed Redeemer? 
Think, 0, think, « hose hand is in this mat- 
ter. Was it not the introducing and advo- 
cating the societies, that have been the 
cause of so much distress among't the peo- 
ple of God, and brought reproach on reli- 
gion and the cause of Christ? 1 find my- 



self enlarging beyond my limiKs. I 
should have told you, that we are divided in 
New Hope church. Some four or five of 
us thought it best to obey the heavenly man- 
date, in lieu of those designing anti-Jude 
mercenaries, whose purposes are to visit 
the flock for the sake of the fleece, &c. as 
those men preach for money and divine for 
hire; whose God is their belly. 

Brethren, I beseech ye, mark them 
that cause divisions and offences contrary 
to the doctrine which ye have learned, and 
avoid them; for they that are such, serve 
not the lord Jesus Christ, but their own 
belly; and by good words and fair speeches 
deceive the hearts of the simple. Rom. 
16, 17 and IS verses. The watchword is, 

Brethren, as the church has not finally 
settled her business, I leave this matter 
until the final issue. Brethren, just let 
one of the Old Baptists say any thing de- 
rogatory to their plan or discrepancy, and 
all is uproar; you are fighting against God; 
let. us alone, we had rather slay in the dark; 
our deeds are evil, we have not as ponder- I 
ous a weapon to wield in defence of our 
schemes as the Primitives have; step on a j 
child's barefoot & he will cry out mamma. 
Some of the soft folks say, that the mission- | 
ary doctrines are the same as the old B.ip- I 
tists. No such thing; it is with them, do | 
and live; and with us, live and do. O, well 
you must not separate from us; we are bro- 
ther Baptists you know; Christ said let the 
wheat &taresall grow together until harvest. 
Agreed, when planted together; but they 
are broken oft from the vine that entwined 
them and us, and are engrafted into a wild 
gourd. And we have some preachers 
amongst us, that are so unstable, that they 
are sometimes open communionisls, and 
sometimes predestinarians, and sometimes 
conditionists. 1 A*ould advise those people 
lo read the scriptures instead of men's no- 

I will here give the relationship of Christ 
and his church, and sic how it will operate 
on conditions. The subjects and heirs of sal- 
vation aie as the shepherd & his sheep, the 
foundation and the building as the husband 
and the wife, the vine and the branches as 
the head and the body ; all this must be ad- 
mitted. Then if any members are lost, or 
an excess added, the body of Christ is 
imperfect; if any stones arc lost, or 
an excess as before stated, the build 
ing loses its proportion, is imperfect; 

if the husband loses his wife, be loses that 
which is bone of his bone and flesh of his 
fleslf, apart of himself. These figures and 
suggestions, together with hundreds of kin- 
dred ones, which the scriptures teem 
with, and press upon the minds of the 
children of grace, unite to illustrate to a 
demonstration, that the doctrines of the day 
and the doctrine of Christ & the apostles are 
not t he same. We would add, if power is 
given to Jesus Christ over all flesh, that he 
should give eternal life to us many as 
the Father hath given him, if he fail to 
give that life, he is a rebel against the 
triune Jehovah. On the other hand, if 
he was to give elernal life to one more 
than was given him, he would be the same 
as before stated, by a work of supereroga- 
tion doing that which was not required at 
his hand. 

Brethren, we might swell a volume, but 
a word to the wise, &c. Brethren, as I can- 
not begin to write what I intended to, I 
must reluctantly draw to a close. 1 will no- 
tice one more tiling, the cunning craftiness 
of those ecclesiastical jugulers; they a| pi in- 
to move on in one solid phalanx, perfectly 
determined to gain the world and carnal 
professors into their measures. Witness 
the Sunday school union, leading the 
youth all in that way ; so the iwig is bent 
the tree inclines. Some of our middle 
men say, I am feigning myself lo be a 
prophet. It does not take a prophet lo 
sea these things, it is obvious to e\ery dis- 
cerning mind. The time is fast approxima- 
ting, when the many combinations will be 
lustily advocated from t he pulpit to the 
press, and from one degree to another, until 
an amalgamation, a consolidation of the 
popular sects under one general (tilth and 
form of government will t;ikc place. The 
missionaries and Mormoniies, Arminians 
of every sort, will likely be the ones that 
will thus combine and form a religi- 
ous Mark Anthony, Octavius Caesar; or 
like the scribes and phari-ees of old, thus 
get into Moses' seat, unite civil and tccle- 
siasticnl power in their own hand, and give 
us national and State Legislatures, executive 
and judicial officers from their own ranks 
of Sabbath school growth, who will compil 
the whole country, &lhat by laws more bloo- 
dy than Uracau'sj&decisions more ferocious 
than Jeffries', to support their religious p:m- 
lomime & imposture notions to the uLuio-t 
extent they could fabricate. When error 
sits in the seat oi power, and authority is 
geucratcd by wickedness, espec ally by 



spiritual wickedness in high- places, it mav 
be compared to that torrent which 
originates indeed in the mountain, but 
commits its devastation in 1 He vale. Can- 
not yotr view the frightfully cortupt 
plan, the very thoughts, breath, and words 
burn; when this is the ease, farewell liber- 
ty. The pope will reign in America. 1 
conclude by subscribing myself your friend 
and much afflicted brother. 

John ScaUorn, one of the Laity. 


SATURDAY, APRIL 25, 1810. 

The extra copies we printed of several of the 
hark numbers having been distributed, we are un- 
able to furnish new subscribers with the entire 
volume — they can either pay in proportion for the 
balance of this volume, or receive of the next vol- 
ume enough numbers to make up the deficiency. 

We bespeak the. patience of our correspondents; 
we have several communications on hand, which 
we will insert as speedily as practicable! 


No. 4. 

Dearly Beloved: Attend once more to the 
voice of inspiration: "Let all bitterness, and wrath, 
and anger, and clamor, and evil speaking be 4 put 
away from you, with all malicei And be ye kind 
one to another, tender hearted, forgiving one ano- 
ther, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven 
you." O, brethren, how shall we come up to the 
full measure of this standard? Flow we should dis- 
cipline our minds to the contemplation, and attune 
our hearts to the praises of redeeming grace and 
dying love, for the possession of such a meek and 
benevolent, holy, high, heavenly and serene spirit, 
as is requisite to shed forth the graces and excellen- 
cies brought to view in the above extract! "Let all 
bitterness a ad wrath, &e." How earnest and per- 
suasive the apostle! "And be ye kind one to an- 
other, &c." How fatherly, how affectionate, how 
tender, how loving, how benevolent! Here is 
the benevolence of the Bible; here is Christian 
benevolence. Here is fulfilled one great meas- 
ure of Christian perfection. And that is the pos- 
session in the heart of pure and unadnleiated love 
towards God's people. The other measure is love 
to God himself. For when the pharisee asked 
of Jesus, which was the great commandment in 
the law;— "Jesus said unto him, thou shall love 
the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all 
thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the 
first ana great commandment. And the second 

is like unto it. Thou shall love thy neighbor as 
thyself. On these two commandments hang all the 
law and the prophets." Here commences the 
Christian race for the gaining of the prize, and en- 
tering into the great arcana of God's eternal love, 
where these two leading evidence of its influ- 
ence on the soul shall be exhibited to the beholder 
in bold and bright array — love to God and love 
to man, saying — "Glory to God in the highest, 
and on earth peace good will towards men." And 
furthermore: "V\ e know that we have passed from 
death unto life, because we love the brethren, 
lie that loveth not his brother, abideth in death." 
"Wherefore, pulling away lying," as the apostle 
to the Ephesians continuelh to say, we should 
"speak every man truth with his neighbor: for we 
are members one of another." 

Now, brethren, here is what I would in this 
letter particularly wish to call your attention to, 
viz: Our membership in the mystical body of 
Christ Jesus the Lord. He individually is the 
head; we collectively constitute the body; hut as in- 
dividuals we are the members of that body respec- 
tively. Each one a perfect member in and of it- 
self in one sense, yet out of place and entirely 
useless if unconnected with the other members 
of the body. The body with the loss of one mem- 
ber would be considered mutilated and altogether 
imperfect: and the head of such a body would 
be divested of its honor and ornament. "For as 
the body is one and bath many members, and all 
the members of that one body being many are 
one body; so also is Christ. For by one spiritwe 
are all baptised into one body, whether we be Jews 
or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and havo 
all been made to drink into one spirit, For the 
body is not one member but many. If the foot 
sh ill say, because I am not the hand, I am not of 
the body; is it therefore not of the body? If the 
whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? 
If the whole were hearing, where were the smell- 
ing? But now bath God set the members every 
one of them, in the body as it hath pleased him. 
And if they were all one member, where were the 
body? But now are they many members, yet but 
one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, 
I have no need of thee; nor again the feet, I have 
no need of you. Nay much more those members 
of the body which seem to be more feeble are 
necessary; and those members of the body which 
we think lobe less honorable, upon these we bestow 
the more abundant honor; and our uncomely parts 
have more abundant comeliness. For our comely 
parts have no need; but God hath tempered the 
body together, having more abundant honor to that 
part which lacked. That there should benoteum 



FOR ANOTHER. Arid whether one member snf- 1 tant era in the history of redemption may arrive, 
for, all the members suffer with it; or one member be when the 'saint shall attain such an eminence of 

honored, all the members rejoiee with iti Now 
ye are the body of Christ and members in particu- 

authority and perfection as to judge angels; and 
we are already competent and authorised to judge 

lar." And God hath distributed to each one ' of and condemn the wicked actions of men, by giv- 
his respective number of talents and assigned I ing precept and example of an opposite character; 
him his station in the church;) — or position in this I but we should ever be found backward in judging 
mystical body;)— to some be hath given the word I one another. {to be continued.) 

of wisdom, to others the gift of healing; to another 
prophecy, to another miracles, to another discern- 
ing of spirits, &c. &c. by the same spirit. "But 
all these worketh that self same spirit, dividing 
to every man severally as He will." 

In view of such arguments as these, my brethren, 
liow mu;h are we interested in each others wel- 
fare! Under what strong obligations to cultivate 
peace and unity among ourselves, being all placed 

C. li. IMSSELL* 


Edgecombe county, N, 0. April, 1310. 
If the following lines contain but little poetry, 
they nevertheless exhibit some sensations of a 
person taught by the spirit of the gospel. 
on such strict equality! and what little good reason I And feelings of a person, about to enter into secret 
have we either by word or deed to urge a separa- ] prayei. 

tion, dimsmeberment or disunion. Suppose the ' Forgetting all that's in the length behind. 
, ,, , ., , ' - . I Of wo-worn eare, and earthly pleasures bland, 

brother ofan earthly parent only, attempts to de- To flll U ie aching void they always leave, 
tract from, or cast reflections on his brother aecor i With solid bliss, if once perhaps I may, 
ding to the flesh: does he not thereby to the full ' I'll turn aside this evening, in the shade, 
extent of his animadversions on the character of And there revive my intercourse with God. 

lures, fancy paints, to aid: 

ourselves with pride; 
when fancy sleeps, 
of a family be stained, the others are tarnished. And lost, when she is dead. No Liturgy 
If one member suffer, the others suffer with it. If 1 want, nor written forms of prayer. They cheat 
a man shall sayto his brother, "thou tyrant," "thou Sincerity, and vail our faces from 

„ , J , . ' , . , The Throne of Grace. 1 ney hide our real wants, 

rogue, or "thou hypocrite, it may be justly retor- ^^ our lhuugllts? debasing lMem l0 earth, 

ted on him that/re is his brother, and that he muslin 'f grovel in the sordid dust and filth 
some degree sustain the like character in the eyes Of creature bliss: these all are nought, to me. 
of the world. Indeed, he who rails out against! And, yel, there are some things 1 fain would 
the members of his own family, is generally tho't | Am) 8nm "°f fain wn uld leave, In this lone place 
the least of by the community around; and pub- Al|( | s i] enl hour, (nay, places else, and hours 
lie opinion is apt to attach to his own character Beside,) how glad I'd he, to feel in truth, 
that stain which he is endeavoring to fasten on his A conscience void of guilt, I'd bring likewise 
,. n , .,„ • ■ . ■,, No sins: of deed, or word, or thought; I d bring 

feow members, 1 his inconsistency will appear . , ,i . . . c ,.i . i „ fir... i.,r., 

J ' ' An humble tjusl, true faith, warm love, firm hope, 

in tenfold degree when applied to the family of Ah(j v j mi „„ s knowledge, temp'rance, patience, all, 
God, by adoption, who are so much- more per- Fraternal kindness, charily and truth, 
manently united to one another as members of the Long suffering, gentleness, true joy and peace; 

exieni oi ins animadversions on tne cnaracter ot nramwiio.i.v^ ,...v..^. 
«■ u ,. i- . ■ ii- i i . • | 1 ask no pictures, fancy p; 

lus brother disparage himself and lessen his own „,, , ', . ' J' 

1 "»■ 1 hey spoil devotion; puff oil 

good standing? If the character ol one member iDe | IK i e our minrjls; are dull, 

mystical body of Christ, than the former are by 

And leave the opposiles of these behind. 

Vet painful as these opposiles may prove, 
the ties of nature and human relationship. "And A|l(] j oyfu) as lhe graoes named would be; 

why beholdest thou the mote that as in thy broth- j Void of the last I come before the Lord, 
er's eye, but considered! not the beam that is in And CMud the first, before me, at his feet, 
thine own eye." Brethren, mark the phraseology My frailty prompts me to present to Hira 

, . , . ,. „ . j, ' M-V own ffond works, or rather to desire 

of this last quotation. Our Saviour was well rp^^ , hetn) ag worthy | lis rece j p t; 

aware of the fault-finding disposition of poor hu- ^ n j |,i ( | e niy bad ones till I cancel them 

man nature. And that his disciples, 'although Myself, by nieiit of my own. But as 

disciples were yet men, and possessed carnal as The case now stands, .is best. My good and bad 

,, . . , _ . TT ,. , , .. Works, all, must come into thisstill retreat; 

well as spiritual affections. He therefore to d.s- ^^ (q ^ ^ pf g^ , he T , m)ne 

approbate such a course would here h#e it dis- ()f (; n ,,. b ., My good and bad — but, stop— they all 

tiuctly understood, that as a general thing he Are bad; and for the same intent, to be 

who was so apt to behold a mole (a thing scarce- Forgiven, must bear -attendance with me here, 

...,....,., , . And face the Lord when I approach his Throne, 

lv visible) in his brother's eye, was sure to have a *", ' , . , , ' ' ,, , . ,- r 

3 ', ,, ,. . v • ,• And speak me whol y as Iain, though for 

beam (arj object of Jiuge dimensions) in his own ^ ^ against me. My bebt works are all 

eye. "Judge not" said the Saviour, alluding to «< full ot' sin, they need forgiveness as 

his disciples, "that ye be not judji d." The impof- My worst. As thus I view their sinfulness, 



T pause, I hesitate to bring them forth, 

Lest they condemn me straight; and yet I d.ire 

Not leave them, lest they miss forgiveness. And 

My evil works condemn me ere they come; 

Yet they are they that force me to this shade, 

And the petition I'm about to send 

Up to the throne tor mercy and for peace, 

.Must carry in its front, and tell them first, 

My crimes, my crimson crimes, my darkest 

Then, telling next the guilty stain of all 
My best performances; it after this 
May speek of peace and sue for pardon too. 
But these I must not ask, for worth of mine, 
Lest when the tale of all my crimes is told. 
This last should bar the door of heaven forthwith, 
Before the news of peace should puss its gates, 
And no return should reach me till I die, 
I'll make request through Christ, the only way, 
And grace through him shall he my only trust. 
Yes, grace, that's never bought nor sold, nor forced, 
That is the fruit of God's unchanging love, — 
That visits mortals who are deep in sin, 
Before they ask, and while they can't deserve, 
That leads them first to feel their need, and then 
To ask what it. in mercy will bestow, — 
That grace that pities our unrighteousness, 
And makes no record of iniquity; 
That makes a father of our God to us, 
And makes us sons and daughters unto Him. 
The obedience ofhis Son f>r righteousness, 
And deatli of him for our atonement too — 
Through these I hope fur grace, and in them trust, 
That when I lift my heart in prayer to God, 
He'll cast my sins behind his hack, and dry 
My tears, and hush my sighs and groans; and when 
1 call will answer me in peace; and when 
I praise, accept the feeble strains I raise; 
Will grant an humble trust, true faith, warm love, 
Firm hope, and virtue, knowledge, temperance, 
Patience, fraternal kindness, charity, 
Truth, joy and peace, long suff'ring, gentleness, 
And far remove their opposites from me. 

Thus, when the pleasures of the world again, 
Display before tny eyes their beauteous charms, 
Unfolding yet new beauties, and yet still. 
Repeating loud their calls in various ways; 
I'll recollect my vows and joys while here; 
The aching void these earthly pleasures leave; 
The bliss religion gives us ev'n in tears; 
What words of peace my Saviour here hath 

What fire seraphic kindled, as I heard 
The words of Jesus fall in accents sweeti 
These thoughts shall steady well my totterimr 

And still my murmurs as they start to rise; 
And on, from time to time, support my heart, 
Between the hours I thus enjoy with God, 

Now let me consecrate in} self anew, 
And more than all resign myself to Him. 
Nor let the fast decay of temp'ra] things. 
Nor change of all around me move me hence. 
Be they my signs and way marks on to rest; 
All noise and bustle be but music blithe, 
To regulate my steps in inarching home. 
Each rising sun increase my vigor well; 
And setting, tell me of the pilgrim's rest, 
No tears be shed but those for sin pour'd forth; 
And every pain I tVel, remind me of 
The Bufferings of mankind, orSaviour's love. 

Sooh I shall enter, not ibis shade, to pray; 
Hut heaven itself, to praise. What there is felt 
I shall not try to know, save, 1 shall see 
The Lord, and bo like Him, Meanwhile, be 

Or rough the times, they rapid whirl, and soon 
Will end. Till then, I trust in him, and wait. 


Barnwell Dbtrict, So. Ctf. \ 
Feb. 26th, 1840. 5 

My worthy brethren Primitives and Ed- 
itors: 1 remain in an unsettled situation, and have 
been sorely afflicted for near twelve months past; 
but praised be God, I am a little on the mend. My 
desolate drooping spirits are revived by being 
able to read your Primitive paper, and to hear of 
my brethren standing true to their integrity: 
believing in but one God, and that the living God; 
depending on one Lord Jesus Christ for redemp- 
tion, salvation and the only way to God; and on 
the divine leaching of his Holy Spirit of truth, 
and not on human institutions. 

I rejoiced much by finding in your paper no 
nicknames, nor ridicule. I hope this will finally 
'• be done away. Let us unitedly join together 
in holding to, and contending for, the faith of Je- 
sus once delivered to his saints, and is given to 
his children yet: it is the gift of God. It is not 
obtained in schools, academies norcolleges. They 
m;.y say what they please, but their saying so does 
not make it so. The gift of God is not treasured 
up in gold and silver, nor bank notes, but their 
gifts are treasured up in his Son Jesus Christ, for 
him to give to them that need them. And if these 
blessings are conveyed from schools, Jesus will 
have the more to bestow to the poor & needy ones, 
that are not able to buy them &are ashamed lo go 
about begging money to purchase witlli (Colosi 
1. 12— 21 ■ Horn. ft. 9, 10, 10, 26, 27.) Now 
true religion does not consist in profession, but in 
possession. And if I possess the religion of 
Jesus Christ, it originated in heaven and was con- 
veyed to me by the spirit; which spirit taught me 
what it was, and enabled me to believe it's and 
finding the gift of God the Father, through his Son 
Jesus Christ, and confined by the Spirit of 
truth, I received it villi all joy and thankful- 

My respectable Primitive brethren, let 
us hold . hogelher in tin feigned lute, giv- 
ing no; tell the troth, be of one 
mind, atari if our school boys and clerical 
preachers ridicule us, and rake all the evil 
reports about us, and e.dl us what they 
plfase, let, us hear it patiently, for God 
kuowcth whether ue are guilty or not. 



But let nsnol ridieule., nor nickname them ; '. grace of Christ in his soul, the mnko belief 
so endeavor to overcome evil with good, I scholar only lias the tuition of men in his 
and not render evil for evil. Rorns. 12. head; therefore money is called for and 
21. They say 1 run away from them; they | because we will not give the money want- 
raise ill reports about me, and publish me I ing, they would kill us, both brother Bap- 
in (heir papers! But all this does not hurt lists. But observe, Abel never fell out, nor 
me for God knowelh what I am. And, this i ridiculed Cain? Esau nimbly went to 
is my consolation: The Lord knowuth hunt venison for his father, while he was 

them that are his. "1 can only say, by 
the grace (not free agency) I am whit I 
am; and by the hope of God I continue 
till to clay." And man cannot make it 
better, nor worse. But to tell the truth 
I hey ran away from me. They left the 
Christian society and ran to educating, 
missionary, tract, convention societies; and 
1 could not run with them, therefore they 
left me to perish. Neither can I go to 
them yet, and leave the Christian society, 
which is the only society I hold to 
And 1 would to God, I could honor it bet- 

I still rejoice to find a few names in the 
United States, that love the TRUTH as 

none Jacob slipped in and got the 
blessing of his fjther. Esau designed 
killing his brother, but Jacob never de- 
signed any mischief against his brother 

Thirdly, Absalom rose up against his 
father, to tike his life anil kingdom, and 
done all he could for the destruction of his 
father; hut David never ridiculed his son. 
Let us, my Old School Primitive Baptist 
brethren follow this example; let them a- 
lone, i hey make self, & natural ability their 
city of refuge. But read what became of 
Cain, Esau and Absalom; and Abel, Jacob 
and David enjoyed. God is a better judge 
in these cases than you or me. Tueir ed- 

it is in Jesus. I saw in one of your p.ipers u cation money will bring them to shame 
a few churches in the State of Geergia np- 'and 1 am afraid to destruction at last, while 
pointed a time of uniting together to form [the humble despised child of God will flou- 
a Primitive Baptist Association, in Spring- Irish. Blessed is the mar, that maketh the 
field, to convene at the Sandy Grove Bap- i Lord his trust. Psa. 40: 4. — not money 
list church, near the Shoals of Ogeechee, i or education. 

the second Sunday in September next] Dear brethren, my sincere prayer to God 
God willing to spare my life, and support is, that your design of honoring God in 
my strength arid, activity, 1 shall be with truth may be abundantly blessed; and 

them at the time and place. By pro- 
fession 1 am a Baptist, in principle I am 
a Predestinari m. I am what I was thirty- 
eight years ago. All the winds of doctrine 
that blow every way, n'eyor moved me 
one inch. I am where God put me, and 
1 believe he will protect me. Psa. 40: I — - 
5. I have wrote a piece of writing, showing 
the* difference between FREE AGENCY 
and FREE GRACE, what they are, their 
different dealings with the children of 
men, and the ends ihey design to answer. 
If you could make a pamphlet or tract of it, 
so it could be published, I should be glad 
to contrive it to your Primitive press. 

As I am coming to a close, I wish to pre- 
sent before you for your consideration 
three cas's: Abal and Ca'ri, Esau and Ja- 
cob, Absalom and his father David. First 
Cain minded the fruits of the earth, he bro't. 
that for a sacrifice; Abel minded sheep, he 
broughta lamb for a sacrifice; God had a 
respect to llvj blood of that I irnb. The 
fruits of the earth did not bleed, there- 
fore no respect to that. Cain killed diis 

that the children of God may be brought 
to see eye to e}'e, and join hand in hand to 
honor God, and giorifyour Redeemer Jesus 
Christ, through the direction of his Holy 
Spirit of all truth. 

1 am your brother in tribulation. 





J2lub(tmti, Pike county, 

Feb. 22nd, 1S40. 

Dear Brethren in Christ: 1 again 

come forward to address my brethren on 

the all important subject of religion: and 

in as much as the Baptist denomination is 

separated in this section of country; on the 

subject of mission and anti mission, I 

I wish to inform my brethren, that I stand 

with the anti missionaries: and 1 also wish 

to give my reasons for doing so. 

And in the first place, the first objection 
which arose in my mind was in consequence 
of .the missionary brethren departing from 
the faith of the Prcdestinarian Baptists, in 
re, the Christian h is the I {heir doctrinal sentiments: this I discovered 



produced general uneasiness, and an anx- 
ious enquiry among the brethren: and caus- 
ed me to suspicion the missionary plan. 
For the brethren now appeared to be divi- 
ded; some believing the free will or Ar- 
minian doctrine, and some, particularly the 
old gray headed fathers in Israel, I found 
Contending for the faith once delivered 
to the saints: and I soon discovered that to 
be a missionary I must not oppose the doc- 
trine of freewill ability ; for 1 found this doc- 
trine generally believed among the mission- 
ary Baptists. So I concluded there whs 
something wrong somewhere, and I tried 
to search for myself; I tried to gather all 
the information I could. I read the scrip- 
lure, I searched church history, compared 
it with present circumstances, and I became 
fully convinced that the missionary scheme 
was supporting a freewill doctrine, and was 
not according to the directions of Christ to 
his apostles; which stands on plain record 
in God's word. 

I also became convinced, thnt the anti- 
missionaries occupied the same ground 
that the old puritans did when they with- 
drew from the Roman Catholic church, and 
separated themselves from the church 
which was then established by law: and 
would not receive the mark of the beast 
nor the number of his name. And I now 
felt fully persuaded, that the Predestinnri- 
an Baptists, and the Missionary Baptists, 
could not live together and enjoy peace: 
consequently I anticipated a separation: 
fori now discovered the Baptists were t\"0 
kind of folks, and was therefore under the 
necessity of parting. 

I now strove in mind to occupy a middle 
ground, but could not reconcile it to my 
own satisfaction; to go with the mis 
sionaries I could not; and to stand between 
the two parties, it looked like 1 was not 
bearing my cross and following Christ; 
therefore, when the Conecuh River Associ- 
ation split on the missionary question, I 
went with the anti-mission brethren, and 
although I have been much reproached 
for pursuing the course I have, I hope the 
Lord has been with me, and has given 
me peace of mind; and even amidst false 
accusations, and backbiting, I hope the 
promise of Jesus has been verified unto 
me: so none of these things move me, but 
confirms and establishes me in contending 
for the faith of God's elect: For Lo, 1 am 
with you alway, says Jesus. 

And I would now say to my brethren 
that are occupying a middle ground, why 

halt ye between two opinions? ifihe Lord 
be God, follow him: and before you deter- 
mine whether yen will go with the mis- 
sion, or anti-mission, read the word 
of God, compare it with the present insti- 
tutions of the day, and the doctrines sup- 
ported by them, and see if you find one po- 
sitive command for them in the holy 
word of God. And if you cannot, you 
should renounce them freely, and take up 
your cross, and follow Jesus through 
evil as well as good report: For if any 
will be my disciple, let him deny him- 
self and take up Lis cross and follow 

1 know it is said, t' e anti-missionaries 
as opposed to the spread of the gospel; I 
would reply to the charge & say, the anties 
are no topposed to the spread of the gospel; 
for we wish the true gospel preached, and 
this is some of the reasons why we stand 
in opposition to the present missionary in- 
stitutions: for by these institutions I believe 
there are unscriptural doctrines supported. 
For some of the missionaries tell us, the 
scripture is not translated correctly, and 
that the sinner converts himself, &c. And 
such as this has brought [distress into the 
church, and we see no way to get rid of 
such doctrine but to quit the institutions, 
and take the word of God for the man of 
our counsel, and obey God rather than 
I man. 

Therefore, with the Bible in our hand 
| and the cause of God at heart, we are com- 
pelled from a sence of duty and faithful- 
■ ness to "our God, to- contend earnestly for 
! the faith of the gospel; even the faith which 
| was once delivered to the saints; to preach 
! the doctrine of Christ faithfully and inde- 
j pendently, riskig all consequences, not 
J regardiug what man can say or do: this 
| 1 believe is the course the anties are 
pursuing. Although 1 am aware, that 
as for this seet, it is every where spoken 
against; so were the apostles by the ene- 
mies of the cross of Christ; and we may ex- 
pect to be set at nought by those, who op- 
pose the truth of God's word. For if any 
man will live godly in Christ Jesus, he 
shall suffer persecution. And, dear breth- 
ren, if you have to suffer for the truth sake, 
rejoice and be exceeding glad. 

And now, dear brethren, do we not 
see the distress that for has been produc- 
ed by the institutions of the day; for it is in 
consequence of the unscriptural doctrines, 
which have grown out of the institutions 
& are supported by them, that the Old Bap- 



lists have risen tip fo defend the true gospel 
of Christ. And I do believe ihcy are the 
very people, that are supporting the gospel. 
And not only so, but we hear of our mis- 
sonnries, petitioning to the Legislature for 
incorporation. Brethren, is not this the 
voice of the dragon, though he lias been 
walking amognst us in disguise, even with 
horns like a lamb? Bui it docs not ap- 
pear to be the bleat of a sheep, to be ask- 
ing for law powei. 

And again, they say the scripture is not 
translated correctly, and therefore wish 
a new translation; which if they ran effect, 
and can get their law power, which it is 
to be feared some are striving for to en- 
foce their system, then the old Baptists may 
preach under stripes and imprisonments, 
chains and dungeons, and the (rue gospel 
may spread as il ever has done under per- 
secution even to distant lands. Brethren, 
ihese things cannot come on usatonce,orof a 
sudden, but by degrees from one generation 
to another. And when we look back, ev- 
en ten years, and see what a change has la 
ken place, among the Baptists in religious 
affairs, what may we expect in ten years 
more, provided things pursue the same 
course? For in this way the Roman Cath- 
olic church became established by law, 
and the anti christian spirit reigned more 
predominant. And thus all the corruptions 
that wicked men could invent, were ulti- 
mately imposed upon the people, under the 
name of Christianity. And what has 
been may be again, and from every 
circumstance, it looks very probable. 

Therefore brethren, I think the storm of 
persecution is gathering against the true 
church of Christ, for the time is now come 
that men will not endure -ound doctrine, 
but after their own lusts they heap to them- 
selves teachers having itching; ears; and 
they shall turn away their ears from the 
truth, and shall be turned unto fables, hav- 
ing men's per.-ons in admiration. But 
amidst all this 1 believe God has a true 
church, even a remnant according to the 
election of grace, and these appear to be 
of one family, and though they are few in 
number in comparison, yet, they have the 
word of God, which is a divine standard 
and will stand foiever. 

And I will now say in conclusion, that 
I am fully persuaded that the institutions 
of the day are supporting doctrines that 
will not stand at the judgment seat of 
Christ; and it is awfully to be feared, that 
there are many, coming in the name of 

f Christ, and may stand very fairlo the eyes 
of m in, that have never deen sent by Jesus 
to preach. Consequently when they come, 
they cannot feed the Christian, for they 
have no! the proper kind of food; and 
instead of administering the wholesome 
doM rine of election, they withhold it and 
say it is unpopular and a dangerous doc- 
trine. And thus we see the very doctrine 
of Christ and ofstlvation, is lightly spoken 
of, and a mess of works preached, and the 
Christian distressed rather than comforted. 
Thus you m ly see clearly what the institu- 
tions are doing, and these are some of the 
most pr Hiiinent reasons why I stand as an- 
ti missionary, believing their svste n and 
docti ine is not according to God's word. 
it 1 have wrote through prejudice, 1 am not 
sensible of it, but do believe sincerely, that 
through these avenues of the mission sys- 
tem, such inducements are held out, that 
deigning men have got into the ministry; 
and what the result will be I know not, 
but I lear it will he persecution, tribula- 
tion, and deep distress; therefore, may the 
Lord save us from every false way. Yours 
in gonpel bonds. 



Abbeville Disf. So. Ca. } 
Jun'y 31*/, 1S40. 5 
Beloved Editors: 1 take pleasure in 
informing you, that 1 have obtained a new 
subscriber for the Prim. Baptist, whose 
name J give below, notwithstanding 1 am 
much derided and persecuted for advocating 
the Primitive faith and doctrine. But 
believing as I do, that the Primitive Bap- 
tist uses for its weapon the two cd^ed 
sword of the gospel of Jesus Christ, I 
glory in the persecution, cleaving lo the 
promise of sacred writ which says: Bless- 
ed are they who are persecuted for right- 
eousness sake. Yours as ever. 



Georgia, Troup county, 
April S( h, 1840. 
Dkar Brethren: As I have to write 
for other purposes, 1 have concluded to 
give you a few of my thoughts. Of late 
1 have been thinking about what Paul said 
to Timothy, first epistle iv. ch. 1 v.: Now 
the spirit speuketh expressly, that in the 
latter times some shall depart from the faith, 



giving hrc<T to seducing spirits and doc- 
trines of devils. 

Novv what I have been thinking of is 
those doctrines, which mean more than one. 
Some therefore cry one thing, and some an- 
other. Now agreeably' to what I daily ex- 
perience, I have concluded that these are the 
times that were spoken of by the aposile. 
And I think we are to understand doctrines 
of devils to mean devil's doctrines, and if 
devil's doctrines, devil's preachers. And I 
believe that all men that preach have some 
rail or impulse so to do. And what 1 
have been thinking about is. how the dev- 
il calls his preachers; and 1 have come to 
this conclusion, that in the first place he 
holds up to them some inducement of ei- 
ther profit or honor, and then induces them 
to believe that they are very smart and 
have an oratorial gift. And when he gets 
them to believe all this, I think they are 
ready to start. But I believe that God 
calls his preachers in a very different way; 
for I believe that he first shows them 
the importance of the gospel and their own 
nothingness; but he weights them with the 
worth of immortal souls until they are com- 
pelled to go. Now God's preachers when 
ihey go, all they can tell the people is, how 
they must be saved; but the devil's preach- 
ers tell them how they can be saved. These 
have been some of my thoughts. No more 
at present. Brethren, pray for me. 



Lowndes connly, Georgia, ~) 
\Glh March, 1S40. \ 
Brethren Editors: I am much pleas- 
ed with my papers. I flatter myself that 
your peace-maker, by some called tell-tale, 
will be found in almost every house of the 
Primitive order. Now I will come to a 
close by subscribing myself, yours in Chris- 
tian love, hoping that this paper may be the 
means of much harmony among God's 
people. JJ1RED JOHNSON. 



North Caromna. — .1. Biggs, Sen. WU'tiamston, 
R. M. G. Moore, Germanton. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washington, James Sou- 
therland, Warrenlon. Alfred Parian, Raleigh. 
Charles Mason, Roxboro'. James Wilder, An- 
derson's Store. Benj. Bynum, Speight' s Bridge. H. 
Avera, Averatsboro' . Parharn Pucket, Richlands. 
Ji H. Keneday, Chalk Leve\. B. Temple, Wake at, 
Geo. w. McNeely, Lealcsville, Wim H. Vann, 

Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagloy, &mith/icld. 
James H.Sasse.r, Waynesboro*. John Fru,it, San- 
dy Creek, L. B, Bennett, Heathville. Alfred Ki- 
lls, Strabane, Cor's Oanaday, Cravensvillt. Wil- 
liam Wei'dh, Abbott's Creek, J. Lamb, Camden 
C. H. A. B. Bains, (r, Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris VVil- 
kerson, We.v£ Point. Isaac Alderman, Moore'* Creek, 
James Miller, Milton, Park. 

South Carolina. — Wm. Hardy, Saluda Hill, 
lames Hembree, Sen. Anderson C. H. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. B, Lawrence, Effingham, 
James Burn's, Son. Bold Spring. William S. 
Shaw, Prick Mills. Levi Lee, Blackuil/e An- 
drew Westmoreland, Gasflvifle. James ,L Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Branch. Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers, Crowsvi\\e, Marshal Mc- 
Graw, Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cookham's, 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDonough'. John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Hollow-ay, Lagrange. P, M. Cal- 
houn, Knnxville. R. Ileese, EatonLon. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patinan, Lexington. Jona- 
than !Veel, James H oil ings worth and Stephen 
Cafttellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bow io\a, Aclairsville. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatoie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fori Gaines. John Gny den, Franklin. P. 
H. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, Tlwn- 
aston. William Bowd en, Union Ydiley. Ezra Mc- 
Orary, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. lohn Lassetter, Vernon. B. Pace, Van 
Wert. L. Peacock, CassvilYe. Vachal D.Whatley, 
Barncsville. Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, 
Mount Morne. Elias O. Hawthorn, Rainbridge. 
J. G. Wintringham, Hallo-a. William Mi 
Amos, GreenviWe. Randolph Arnold, Lati- 
mer's S/ore. Thomas J. Bnzemore, Clinton. 
Jonah Stovall, Aquilla. G. P. Cannon, Culloden- 
vi]]c. Jason Grier, Indian Springs. William 
McEIvy, Altaputgus. Furpa Ivey, Mlledgeville. 
William Garrett, Cotton River. Jesse Moore, 
George Herndon and John Hardie, fr- 
winfon. Leonard Pratt, Whitesville. Ed- 
ward Jones, Decatur. Thomas J. Johnson, New- 
nan. Israel Hendon, Shi]o. Robert B. Mann, 
Ckesnul Grove. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
John Lawhon, Chenuba. John Herington, Wel- 
born's Milk. James P. Ellis, PineviUe, F. Hag- 
gard, Athens. H. Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Valley. Josiah Gresham, White fjall.. Daniel 
O'Neel', Foiolton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro', 
J.B. Morgan &. B,P\R6vxse, Friendship, Sam'l wil- 
liams, Fair Play. John Wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Ifootensville. R. S. Hamrick, Carrolllon. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery. Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, B\ake\y, Asa 
Edwards, Wousfoa, Richard Stephens, Sen'n 
TarversviWe, John Stroud, Kendall. James Scar- 
borough, Statesbonugh. Young T. Standifer, 
Mulberry Grove, Robert R. Thompson, Centre- 
vi/le. YonngTi Standifer, Mulberry Grove. Ja- 
red Johnson, Troupvilh. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansville. Edmund Si Chambless, Stn/lings 
Stwe. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, JohnslonviWe. David Rowell, Jr. Groo 
versviUe. Joel Colley, Covington, W. w. Pool, 
Columbus. Benjamin C. Burns, ViWa Ricea, 

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Alabama. — L.B. Moseley, Cuhavoba. A. Kea- f 
ton, McConico. John Blackstone, La Fayette. W 
\v. Carlisle, Frcdonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wm. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'] 
GafFord, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow H II. 
John , G. ; Walker, Milton. Henry Williams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron. James 
Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Church Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leigh/on. 
Adam MeOreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, lYew Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, < 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her. j 
ring 1 , Clayton, G. w. Jeter, Fiut Lata, Samuel | 
Gt Johnson, Fhasant Grove. William Crutcher, 
Huntsville. W illiam Hi Cook, Picltcnsville. 
Seaborn Hamrick. Flantersvillc. William Mel- 
ton, BluJ} Port. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Wm. 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus Daniel, Jamcston, An- 
derson w. Bullard, Tusgegee. Frederick Hines- 
Gaston, Z. Johns, Tiara, Eli McDonald, Pains-. 
villc. A. Mjilehell, Carter's Hill. William Pow- 
ell, YoungsviWe. John Brown, Wacaoca, Silas 
Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville- David Treadwell 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory. Sam'l T.Owen, 
Argus, Joseph H.Hollowjay»H'izle Green, Luke 
R. Simmons, Troy. Jesse Lee, Farmersville, 
William S. Armstrong, LouitviJle. Mark Porter, 
Demnpo/is, Henry Adams, Mount Willing. Joel 
Hi Chamhless, Lowsville. Elliot Thomas, Wil- 
liamslon, F. Pickett, Ci/iina Grovei James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M. Pearson, DudcviWc. VV. 
J. Sorelle, W etunvpkd, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store. Willis 
Cox, Soukeehatchie. James Searcy, Irwinfon. 
Hazael Littlefield, Ten Islands. John w. Pellnm, 
FrankMn, Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D> Cooper, Wi\- 
Mamslon. John Harrell, Missouri. James Ki 
Jacks, Eli-ton, Henry Hilliard, BeWville. John 
A. Miller, Oukfus]iee. Durham Kelly, A\exan- 
dria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Athens, William 
Thomas, Prospect Ridge, John Bishop, Jun'r> 
Crockettsville. James Gray, Cuscla. Thomas L. 
Roberts, MonrocviWe. Morgan .Howard., Centre- 

Tennessee. — A. V. Farmer, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
chael Bnrkhalrer, Cheeksville, Tho's K.Clingan, 
Smith's M Roads. W.E.Pope, Philadelphia.-, Aaron 
Compton, Somerville, Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, Mccsvillc. James 
Mau\t]en, Fan Burcn. A. Burroughs, Wesley. Wm. 
Croom, Jackson. Sion Bass,7'//ree Forks, John w 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough, Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Seoierville.. 
Thos. B.Yeates,Lynchtrurg. C.T. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Medon. Levi Kirkland and George 
Turner, Waverly. Abner Steed. Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Sncdysvillc, Pleasant A. Witt, Check's 
X Roads. Ji Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. Jasi H. Holloway, Hazel 
Green, William McBee, Old Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin w. Harget, Cherryvilh, Robert Gregory, 
Qarouth's X Roads, John Scallorn, Shady Grove. 

Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian. Spring*. 
Thos.Holland,/J«/7u///c. WorshainMann Columbus. 
Henry Petty, Zion. Wm. lluddleston, Thomaston. 
Nalhan Tims, Kosciusko, Jonathan D.Cain, Wa- 
terford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 

Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris, 
]V!ice\'ng. Simpson Parks, Lockht/r/'s Store, 
Marie Prewett, Aberdeen, Wn\. Ringo, Hamilton. 
.lamps M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas Hi Dixon, Micon. John Erwin, 
Linkhorne, Herbert D. Bnckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and Micajah 
Crenshaw, Marion. Wm.H Warren, Dekalb, C. 
Nichols, Stamp Bridge. Wooten Hill, GooksviUc. 
William Clark, Marion; 

Florida.! — James Alderman and P, Blount, 
China Hill. David Callaway, Cherry Lake. John 
F. Hatrnii, Monficruo. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, MarburyviUe. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro'. Uriah Stevens, 
Pine Grave. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand Fiew, 
James Marshall, Salem. Thomas w. Martin, 
East. Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac Wi Denmnn, GaWatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Flulanthropy. John 
B. Moses, Germanlon, 

Kentucky. — Levi B, Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, ComdiusviWe. Levi Lancaster, 

Virginia. — Kemuel C. Gilbert, SydnorsviUe. 
Rudolph Rorcr, Bergcr's Store. John Clark, Fre- 
dericksburg. Wm w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifax C, II, George w. Sanford, 
Harrisonburg. Jesse Lankford, Bowers's, Eli- 
jah Hansbrough, SdmerviUe. Wilson Davenport, 
White House, Arthur w. Eanes, EdgelnW, 

Dis. Columbia. — Gilbert Beebe, Alexandria. 

Pennsvlvania. — Hezekiah West, South Hi\\. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. Nathan Everitt, 
Cliillieoats Town. 


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VOL. 5. 

SATURDAY, MAY 9, 1840. 

No. 9. 



^Alabama, Jefferson county, 
Feb. 16lh, 1840. 

Dear brethren Editors: I now for 
the first time take my pen to let you know 
how times are in these parts of God's 

Dear brethren, the time has certainly 
come that men cannot bear sound doctrine, 
for they have turned away their ears from 
the truth, and have heaped to themselves 
teachers having itching ears. Brethren, as 
well as I can recollect, in the year 1831 I 
set in the Association, and the missionary 
plan Was brought forward, with all its new 
invented plans to get money. And after 
two days debate, we, the Old School Bap- 
tists voted it out, thinking we were clone 
with it. But, deaf brethren, in 1832 at 
our Association, they met us again with a 
form of a constitution, desiring letters of 
dismission to form a new Association for 
convenience, as they said. We examined 
their constitution, & refused to letter them 
to it. They then agreed to lay it aside, 
calling it a skeleton, and agreed to form 
them a constitution after the order of the 
Mt. Zion Association. We then gave them 
letters in fellowship, when joined to anoth- 
er of the same faith and order. They then 
took Up their skeleton, and added a few 
more articles worse than the first, which in 
substance, binds their members to pay tri- 
bute to Caesar, and made that their con- 
stitution and commenced receiving ex^ 
communicated members and members from 
the Methodists, believing their baptism 
to be good. Then met us their mother 
Association, claiming a correspondence ; 

which we refused to grant to them, be- 
lieving them to be in disorder, and 
that God has strictly commanded us to 
withdraw from every brother that walketh. 

Dear brethren, these new invented plans 
of the present day took away nearly all ouf 
preachers. Some we believe went from 
pure motives, some for speculation, and 
some to go with the crowd. I will give 
you a list of a few of their names, to wit: 
Hosea Holcombe, William Holcombe, 
Thomas Cox, Henry Cox, William Mc- 
Cain, Andrew McCain, Philip Archy, Ja- 
cob Tate, with others. Dear brethren^ 
these appear to be drawn by the love of 
money, which Paul says is the root of all 
evil, & while some covet after, they pierce 
themselves thro' with many sorrows. And 
the Lord God which gathefeth the outcast 
of Israel saith: Yet will I gather others 
to him besides those that are gathered (in-* 
to him. Isa. 56 ch. and 8th vs. AH ye 
beasts of the field come to devour; yea, 
all ye beasts in the forest. 9 v.: His 
watchmen are blind, they are all ignorant^ 
•they are all dumb dogs; they cannot bark, 
sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber; 
10 v. Yea, they are greedy dogs, which can 
never have enough; and they are shepherds 
that cannot understand} they all look to 
their own way, every one for his gain 
from his quarter. And the prophet Mi- 
cah, 3 ch. 9 v. saith: Hear this, I pray 
you, ye heads of the house of Jacob and 
princes of the house of Israel, that abhor 
judgment and pervert all equity. lOih v. 
They build Zion with blood, and Jerusa- 
lem with iniquity; 11 v. The heads 
thereof judge for reward, and the priests 
thereof teach for hire, and the prophets 
thereof divine for money; yet will they 
lean upon the Lord and say, is not the Lord 



among as, nono evil can come upon us; 
12th, therefore, shall Zion for your sak6 be 
ploughed as a field. 

And Paul saith, Romans, 16th ch. 17th 
v: Now I beseech .you, brethren, mark 
them which cause divisions and offences, 
contrary to the doctrine which ye have 
learned and avoid them; 18th, for they that 
are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ 
but their own belly; and by good words 
and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the 
simple. Titus, 13 ch. lOih vs: For 
there are many unruly and vain talkers and 
decievers, especially they of the circumci- 
sion; 11 v. Whose mouths must be stopped, 
who subvert whole houses, teaching things 
which they ought not, for filthy lucre's 
sake; 13 v. This witness is true, therefore 
rebuke them sharply, thatthey maybesound 
in faith; not giving heed to Jewish fables 
and commandments of men that turn from 
the truth. Jude, 11 verse: Woe unto 
them, for they have gone in the way of 
Cain and run greedily after the error of Ba- 
laam for reward, and . perished in the 
gainsaying of Core. 16 v. These are mur- 
murers, complainers, walking after their 
own lusts, and their mouth speakeih great 
swelling words, having men's persons in 
admiration because of advantage. 

Now, dear brethren, as 1 am no scholar 
and only a deacon in the church, and as 
my sheet is almost full, I must come to a 
close, tho' I have only laid the foundation 
of my subject. 1 will conclude by saying, 
may the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be 
with you all. Yours in tribulation. 



Carroll county, Georgia, 
ISM Ftb. 184©. 
Dear brethren Editors: Grace, mer- 
cy and peace be multiplied unto you, from 
our Lord and master. This once more 
I have the privilege of sending on for my 
papers; and, brethren, I have been a con- 
stant reader from the first paper ofjhe first 
volume until now, and can say, that the 
contents of the paper has been a consola- 
tion to me in hearing from my brethren 
in different parts of the country, in coming 
out from the fruits of the second beast that 
was to come; and hearing my brethren 
advising their brethren to take the admoni- 
lion of Saint Jude, in contending for 
the faith that w&s once delivered to the 

And I have thought, that I nerer should! 
write any more, knowing my inability 
and seeing so many abler pensmen engaged 
in writing, that 1 did not want to be in 
the way of them with my feeble thoughts 
on so important a subject as that of the 
religion of our Lord and master. But when 
I hear the trials of my brethren from east 
to west, in coming out from the inven- 
tions of the day, it makes me think of the 
trials that we have come through in this 
part of God's moral vineyard. And 1 be- 
lieve the God of Israel will help them, 
and I believe that God never will be left 
without a witness on earth. For he has had 
a ppople on earth ever since righteous 
Abe! until now, and will unto the end of 
the world. And he has promised to be 
with them and never leave them nor forsake 
them; lot his word is gone forth & will not 
return void, but shall prosper and accom- 
plish the end whereunto he sent it. So 
I will come to a close by saying, I remain 
yours in the best of bonds of love and af- 
fection. R. W. CARLISLE. 


Mississippi, Holmes county, 
November \lth, 1S39. 
Deatx Brethren:- I.-have just arrived 
at home, from a protracted tour among the 
churches and Associations of this State 
and the State of Tennessee. I was at two 
Associations in the State of Tennessee, 
where 1 had the pleasure of hearing the 
sublime truths of the gospel of Christ with- 
out mixture; and also found the Old Bap- 
tists standing aloof from the men-made gos- 
pel merchants, which was a gratification 
to me. I came from there to the Talla- 
hatchy Association in this Stale. The As- 
sociation met and organized, and upon 
reading the letters, there appeared a re- 
quest in one of the letters, as near as my 
memory serves me in these words: 

"We, the Sardis church, being one of 
the constituent members of this body, &e. 
request the Association to add an article, 
or so amend the constitution as that giving 
or not giving shall not be a bar to fellow- 

There was then a call for petitionary let- 
ters. There being three present, they 
were handed in; two of which contained a 
declaration of non-fellowship to the bene- 
volent institutions of the day, which was 
rejected by that church, and then the Asso- 


131 ion agreed to refer the letters to the 
committee of arrangements. 

On Monday, the Association answered 
the petition of the Sardis church, in effect 
as follows: That the constitution did noi 
dehar any person fiom giving. However, 
the Association proceeded to declare an 
unfellowship with the society system, and 
then for the first time in life I heard the 
liberty of conscience begged for by people 
railing themselves Baptists.- But as I 
have more of the same stamp only worse, 
I must hasten on. That church withdrew 
from the Association, and the other appli- 
cants were received. 

] came from thence to the Yalobusha 
Association, and for me or any other man 
to give a correct record of the proceedings 
of that assembly would be impossible; 
that is, of all that was done. For I have 
never in all my life been a witness of such 
a scene among professors of religion, 
much less among people calling themselves 
Baptists. The plain truth is, there were 
two kinds of people, (to wit:) Sarah's chil- 
dren and Hagar's, and you nor I never 
saw the two families together in the world 
but what there was mocking, and discord, 
and confusion, in lieu of brotnerly love and 
fellowship. 1 heard one of the well grown 
divines in that Association say, thatit would 
never do for the Baptists to split, for his 
grandmother and mother were Baptists, 
and that he had been a Baptisteven since he 
was fourteen years old. And that it would 
not do for the Baptists to split, for the Lord 
had given the world to the Baptists, and that 
he could not leave the Baptises. He went 
on to state, that he had been preparing to 
discuss the missionary question at that 
Association for some length of time, per- 
haps for six months, and that he was pre- 
pared to show that the anti-missionaries 
were nothing more nor less than Roman 
Catholics, and were actuated by the same 

Now, brethren, cannot you see with- 
out specs what sort of love he had for 
the Old Baptists? Old School Baptists, 
did you notice them remarks? This is the 
best compliment you get for all your ex- 
ertions to keep peace and love with them. 
As soon as they think they havea majority, 
the best name you can get from them is, 
Roman Catholics, and are governed by the 
spirit of antichrist. I think it is high 
time the Old Baptists were looking at the 
motto of the Primitive, and obeying the 
call that says, COME OUT OF HER, 

r MY PEOPLE. This with many other 
harsh speeches were thrown out by the lear- 
ned gentry of the ecclesiastic bar, at that 
time and place. 

Finally, the Association left the place 
in confusion. The Old Baptists repaired 
on that night to brother Johnson's, about 
five miles from the place, and entered into 
agreement to meet in convention on Friday 
before the fifth Sabbath in May next, to 
form an Association; as the Clerk of the 
present session was a missionary, and on be- 
ing asked to give up the books and papers 
belonging to the Association, he replied that 
he was a delegate from a very respectable 
church, and that he would hold on to the pa- 
pers, books, &c. 

Now, Old School Baptists,you who have- 
been on both sides and yet on no side, 
here is another among the thousands of 
proofs, all of which go to substantiate 
the fact of the impossibility of old hardshel- 
led Baptists to get along in peace with 
the no shelled sort. This closes my 
account of the Yalobusha Association. 

The Primitive Baptist Association has 
just closed her first session after formation, 
in peace and harmony; just as it has been 
with all of the Associations that I have 
been at this fall, where they were free 
from the no shelled sort. The mis- 
sionaries say, they want the liberty 
of conscience; the Lord knows I am wil- 
ing that they should have it, it is their pro- 
vince and their kingdom. And 1 would 
be as far from wishing to bind grievous 
burthens on their conciences, as any man 
in the western world. And as far as 
I have learned, the Baptists are all will- 
ing that they should live in full possession 
of this unsullied right. Now let us pursue 
this rule, and see if it ought not, or will 
not work -both way®. If it will not, it 
is of no force of course. 

Now, brethren, 1 hold fellowship to be 
a principle that grows up out of seeing and 
hearing; and it is as much impossible for 
a Christian to fellowship any thing that 
they have neither seen nor heard with tho 
internal eye and ear, as it is for the dead 
soul to bring itself to life. Now if fellow- 
ship is a principle and given us by Christ, 
and that does not recognise the missionary- 
operations as they are now in practice, are 
wenotasmuch entitled to the liberty of 
conscience as other professors? If we are, 
what portion of our conduct is it, that ren- 
ders us in effect Roman Catholics? Is it be- 
cause we have the hardihood to declare, 



that we have never seen nor heard your 
societies, nor Arminian doctrine that you 
preach, in the operalion of God's spirit on 
our hearts, when he brought us to see and 
hear spiritually. Nor in God's holy book 
recommended, as you know this is the only 
way for fellowship to exist. For, says 
John, that which we have seen and heard 
declare I unto you, that you may have fel- 
lowship with us; for truly your fellowship 
is with the Father, and with his son Jesus 
Christ. Now if you can declare to us, that 
you have seen& heard your society system 
and Arminian doctrine in the Book of 
God and show it to us, we will join you; 
and if not, we feel disposed to hand you 
back your Roman Catholic ticket. Let 
os examine our doctrine and your doc- 
trines, and see which favors the Roman 
Catholics the most. 

You will keep in mind, that our last 
proposition was, to go into an examination 
of the Primitive Baptist doctrine, and 
and the New light Baptist doctrines; and 
in prosecuting my enquiry, relative to the 
Old Baptist doctrine, i will confine myself 
to facts, scripture facts, which will be quite 
easy. The doctrine of Christ is no where 
in the book of God called doctrines, as I 
now confine myself to show. Read Deu- 
teronomy, ch. 32, v. 2: My doctrine shall 
drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as 
the dew, as the small rain upon the tender 
herb, and as the showers upon the grass. 
Isaiah, 28 ch. &9 v: Whom shall he teach 
knowledge, and whom shall he make to 
understand doctrine, &c? Matthew, 7 ch. 
and 2S v.: And it came to pass, when 
Jesus had ended these sayings, the people 
were astonished at his doctrine: 29th, for 
he taught them as one having authority, 
and not as the scribes. In Mark 1st, and 
22d, you find the same words agai-n. Mark, 
-Hand IS: And the scribes and chief priests 
heard &sought how they might destroy him; 
for they feared him, because all the people 
was astonished at his doctrine. Luke, 
4th ch. 32 v: And they were astonish- 
ed at his doctrine, for his word was 
with power. Mark, 1st, and 27: And 
they were all amazed, insomuch that they 
questioned themselves, saying, what thing 
is this? what new doctrine is this? and so 
forth. Again, John, 17. 17. Acts, 2. 42. 
Romans, 6. 17: But God be thanked, ye 
were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed 
from the heart that form of doctrine that 
was delivered unto you. 18, Being then 
made free from sin, ye became the servants 

of righteousness. Many more quotations 
can be produced, to show the oneness of the 
doctrine of Christ, and just as many to 
show the oneness of Christ and the church. 

Notwithstanding this is a one doctrine, 
yet it has several branches, which it takes to 
make this one doctrine. Just as reasona- 
ble this, as that different water streams have 
the same fountain, and that different lawa 
have the same constitution. There is no 
fountain that sends forth bitter and sweet 
water. No legislative body enacts uncon- 
stitutional laws, for each Jaw must have 
che similitude of, or agree with the consti- 
tution; if not, the Judge of the Supreme 
Court would have a right to disannul the 
force of that law. And the water stream 
that runs from the direction of the sweet 
fountain and is found to Lie bitter, you need 
be at no loss to pronounce the sentence of 
condemnation opon it, as not coming from 
the sweet fountain. And any branch of 
doctrine that has ever so much the appear- 
ance of coming from Christ, upon ex- 
amination if it does notgiveGod the glory 
as sovereign Lord of all, you need be at no 
loss to declare non-fellowship with, it and 
its advocates. And if you should get the 
spleen and malice of all the craftsmen, and 
mocking Ishmaels, and advocates of ano- 
ther gospel, all of which ^re graceless pro- 
fessors, excited against you, and the name 
of a Roman Catholic thrown in, you need 
not regard it as anything else but trash, and 
the effects of another gospel. 

One branch of the doctrine is election. 
We mean when we say election, choice. 
Well now the question arises, who chooses, 
and when did that choice or election take 
place, and what we are chosen to, and what 
from? I will answer,and then prove my an- 
swer by the great I AM. You recollect I 
told you, that any branch of doctrine that 
did notgive God the glory as sovereign Lord 
of all, was as a stream from another foun- 
tain, or a branch of another gospel. To the 
first interrogatory I answer, the alpha & om- 
ega, the first and the last, the beginning and 
the end, only holds unsullied to himself 
as sovereign Lord and law giver, the right 
of choice. A few remarks, and then for 
the proof. Man was once in possession 
of the power of choice, and he sold that 
power for a bed in hell, unless some other 
choice interferes. Man at that time chose 
death, and he got it; and he, nor none of 
his family, which is all the human fami- 
ly on the face of all the earth, has never 
from that time till now, chose any other 



course but the broad way and another 
gospel; except the little few that have had 
their choice governed by the choice of him 
who hath chosen us unto salvation from 
the beginning, through sanctificationof the 
Spirit and the belief of the truth; and not 
in the belief of a lie, or another gospel. As 
1 have ushered in this quotation from Paul 
to the TheS. 2 letter and 2 chapter, I will 
proceed to examinethetestimonyonthesub- 
ject of God's choice in the eternal election 
of his people. The first thing that presents 
itself to our view is, who is the head of 
the church? Answer. Jesus Christ. 2nd, 
Was Christ the chosen of the Father? You 
are obliged to answer in the affirmative. 
Then if Christ is the head of the church, 
and the church his body, which I am pledg- 
ed to show by his word, and Christ the cho- 
sen of the Father, then I ask, and answer 
me, if you can, whether this choice did 
or did not recognise the body of Christ as 
well as his head? And if you will admit 
that it did, then I think we have arrived 
at this testimony that God is the chooser, 
and also at ihe time when he chose Christ 
and his church, whieh is the complete Son 
of God, the head and body. 

We now ask, when did the Father begin to 
love his Son? Let Jesus answer for himself. 
17 chap, of John: And now, Father, glo- 
rify thou me with the glory which I had with 
thee before the world was. 24, Father, I 
will that they also, whom thou hast given 
me, be with me where I am, that they 
may behold my glory, which thou hast giv- 
en me: for thou lovedst me before the 
foundation of the world. 26, And I have 
declared unto them thy name, and will de- 
clare it, that the love wherewith thou hast 
loved me may be in them, and I in them. 
This looks like election, or choice, don't 
it? I can't quit yet, it is of too much impor- 
tance to get tired of. Paul to the Romans, 
exhibits a chain of this doctrine in the S 
chapter: Forwhom he did foreknow he did 
also predestinate, (what too? why,) to be 
conformed to the image of his Son. Now if 
this predestination grew out of, or because 
of personal obedience, then Paul and 
the Holy Ghost by which he wrote, were 
both mistaken. They should have said, 
for whom he did foreknow he did also 
predestinate, because they had conformed 
to the image of his Son. But this sort of 
an idea looks like a branch of another gos- 
pel. Let us look a little further on this 
chain, for we have only spoken of two 
links of it yet; and both of them are in 

heaven; and unless the chain reaches to 
the earth, it is a gone case with us, for we 
are on the earth. 30 v. Moreover,whom he 
did predestinate, them he also called. 
Well now, I am glad of that, for that is all 
of the chain that reaches the earth, and 
you will observe, that it is the third link 
in the chain, and that it couches in it the 
office of the third person in the trinity, 
that is the Holy Ghost. Them he called 
he justified. There is the fourth link. 
Whom he justified them he also glorified. 
Here is the fifth link in this chain. 

Them he foreknew. This is the first link, 
& it is in heaven. Predestination, or God's 
decree or fore appointment. This is the 
second link, and it is in heaven too. The 
call comes down to us upon earth. Justi- 
fication is in heaven, for he arose for our 
justification. And them he also glorifies. 
This is in heaven too. Here are five links, 
two at each end in heaven, and one in 
the middle, that reaches us. Well, will 
this do for the doctrine? Is there any need 
here for human agency? Now that same hu- 
man agency is a branch of another gospel. 
Well, I will quote another scripture or two 
and then I will give the other gospel a little 
examination: For we are his workman 
ship, created in Christ Jesus unto good 
works, which God had before ordain- 
ed that you should walk in them. Well 
now, you were not created in Christ 
Jesus, because you accepted a cordial and 
obedient faith; but to make you obedi- 
ent. Again: he hath chosen us in Christ 
Jesus, before the foundation of the world; 
(not because we had been obedient and 
acted faith, and repented and contributed 
to the support of the gospel, and a thou- 
sand other requisitions, which another 
gospel requires;) but that you should be 
holy and without blame before him in 
love; having predestinated us unto the 
adoption of children by Jesus Christ to 
himself, according (not to our compli- 
ance and obedience, but) to the good plea- 
sure of his will, to the praise of the glo- 
ry of his grace, wherein he hath made us 
accepted in the beloved; in whom we have 
redemption through his blood, the forgive- 
ness of sins according to the riches 
of his grace where he hath abounded to- 
wards us in all wisdom and prudence, hav- 
ing made known unto us the mystery of 
his will according to his good pleasure, 
which he hath purposed in himself. 

Now 1 think 1 have fairly shown who 
i chooses or elects, and when he done it; 



and what he ch r 4t a« te, and what from; 
as the unprejudiced reader may plainly, 
if he has got eyes end ears opened and 
unstopped by grace, see. I will now give 
some account of the popular doctrine*, 
and in order to not be misunderstood, 
I will give you God's word and account of 
the other gospel. I believe I promised to 
give you an account of a system that is 
properly termed doctrines. The question 
now arises, how will you distinguish be- 
tween them, when you see that there are 
someof the commands of God kept by 
both? Why it is just as easy to discern be- 
tween them, as it is between the pharisee's 
righteousness and th.3 righteousness of 
Christ. There is a sort of doctrines that 
j« windy, this is described in 4 and 14 of 
Paul to Eph. This is said to be handled 
by the slight of cunning craftsmen, and the 
nse of it was to lie in wait to deceive. Is 
this gospel, which is another in use? Now 
most assuredly ii is, to the great confusion 
©f my master's little ones. Antichrist will 
never quit struggling for h<is lost power, 
which he has not been able to regain in 
the far famed America; for you know that 
lie has to have political government and the 
secular arm united, before he can have his 
«dan in glorious array, and inasmuch as 
lie has yei failed to accomplish that black 
riesign, all that he can do now is to infest our 
churches with his windy doc'rines and lie 
in wait to deceive. And as I believe thai 
there are man}' good Christians that are now 
deceived with bis plans and another gos- 
pel, I will here enter his bulwarks and 
show his doings. 

Now we do not object to missiona- 
ries because of the name, for I believe 
that Christ was a missionary sent of God 

go to the relief of the dislrtseed and de«#. 
late churches. But you have not done 
this, you have visited the big towns, held 
protracted meetings, and visited largo 
ohurches, rich settlements, and have had 
men's persons in admiration because of 
advantage; & the poor distrcsssed desolate 
churches, that a little back caused so much 
sympathy, have yet remained without 

This is not all, you have begged from 
rich and poor, bond and iree; you have 
hired men to beg, and when they could not 
get money they have a subscription paper 
and all that have not got the change in 
hand, can subscribe and pay after a while. 
And some of the. hireling beggars, when 
they are on their way go to men of renown, 
prominent characters in settlements, and 
solicit them to put do*vn a good fat s.ub- 
cription,and that will induce your neigh- 
bors to subscribe; and I only want your 
name for an inducement to others, & 1 will 
not exact your subscription of you. Say, 
don't this look like lying in wait to deceive? 
And besidesallthis,they one Sabbath have to 
preach about the utility of a Sunday School 
Union. Say, missionary, where is that 
found commanded in God's holv Book? if 
it is not there, you will admit that it is a 
man commandment and consequently ano- 
ther gospel. And on another Sabbath you 
have to enumerate how many thousands 
of the heathen are gone to h II for the 
want of preachers this year, and the utility 
of foreign missions, and tract societies, and 
working societies, & temperance societies, 
and State conventions, and county con- 
ventions, and all such like things. Do 
Christians, who have been taught in the 
school of Christ, suffer themselves tost, to 

the Father, & so were all his apostles. Well, laud fro with such preaching as this, and re- 
pays one, what do you oppose ns for? An- reive it as gospel light? 1 say, none but the 
ewer, because of jour doings, your false sickly and bewitched can give into such 
doctrines, your A rminian ism, your teaching schemes; for there is nothing more clear, 

for doctrines the commandments of men; 
and unless j-ou clear yourself of these char- 
ges, we shall insist on your taking back j'our 
Roman Catholic name that you got ashamed 
of, itbeing so applicable to j'onr doings, and 

than that these are doctrines; and if so, they 
are of another gospel. Now prepare your- 
selves, for you shall have your name back. 
Now can a minister of Christ stay in such 
an asylum, where such doctrines and an- 

therefore handed it to us. The name don't other gospel is preached? I say, 1 think 
fit us; our doings and doctrine was always ! not. Now to all that are in love with th« 

a sore eye to the mother of harlots, and is 
to her soothsaying daughters till this day, 
and to her hireling men servants. You 
proposed a good thing when you first Bet 
out, and if you had stuck to it we would 
not have opposed you; that was, to loose the 

truth, may God bless, comfort you, and 
build you up in the most holy faith, and 
arm you with the whole armor of God; 
may he enable you to earnestly contend 
for the faith once delivered to the saints. 
Dear brethren Editors, indulge me in a 

hands of the poor preachers and let them few wishes, J wish that God may give 



vow all humble hearts and contrite spirit?. 
I \vi«h you may always be in peace, and yel 
I wish you may never be in peace and yet 
be great peace-makers in the house of God. 
1 wish Zion may prosper every where. I 
wish the elect of God may get to themselves, 
where they ean have peace. I wish the in- 
habitants of the rock may have hearts to 
rejoice in God our Saviour. I wish you all 
to pray for poor little me. I wish 1 could 
see all the brethren that 1 have had the 
pleasure of reading after in the Primitive. 
Finally, I wish we may all meet in heaven. 
Farewell, brethren. Yours in gospel bonds. 
N. B. I wish Brother Henry Petty to 
inform me' through the Primitive, when 
and where the next fall sessions of the Pil- 
grim's Rest and Buttahatchy Associations 
will be held, as we the Primitive Map- 
list Association have at our recent session 
agreed to tender them 'correspondence; 
from information believing them to be of 
the old sort. I received broiher Petty's 
letter, it came to hand too late to comply 
with its request. I very cordially received 
the remembrance of brother YVm. Cook, 
and herein tender him the same re- 
quest. Yours as ever, dear brethren in the 
love of the truth. S. P. 


Pittsylvania county. Va. > 
Feb. 4th, 1840. 5 

Dear brethren: Through the mercy 
and providence of God, I am yet spared 
and have another opportunity of addressing 
a few lines to you and our Old School bre- 
thren in general. We are commanded to 
speak often one to another, and we consider 
our Primitive paper very eminently adapt- 
ed to our use for said purpose; through 
which we become acquainted, and by which 
we understand each other and the place of 
our worship, according to the delineations 
we make. And when it is ascertained that 
we are not the worshippers at Mount Ebal, 
but .are devoutly worshipping at Mount 
Gerrizim,it is with full propriety we adopt 
the language of the apostle, (i. e. ) we are 
the circumsision, who worship God in 
the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and 
have no confidence in the flesh. Phi. 3c. Sv. 

And, brethren, we should endeavor to 
humble ourselves before God, and also to 
unite in solemn thankfulness to God for the 
acts of providence and grace towards us; be- 
lieving as wa do that he is the great author 

of every good and perfect gift, and at the 
same time acknowledging our unworlhi- 
ness; and we should extol the glory of his 
grace by speaking of the unsearchable rich- 
es thereof, and the mystery of his will, 
whilst thousands of the professional ranks 
are directly or indirectly laboring to foil 
the glorious doctrineof grace, and to whittle 
it down to some natural theory. Some 
render salvation by works, others works 
and grace in co. and others again by mo- 
ney. And some allege that the gospel 
of grace must be upon some secular max- 
im, save the alone precision of his divine 
will, which will includes his own purposes 
and eternal object; all of which, arising 
from the infinite source of his divine and 
sacred character, being sovereign potentate 
of heaven and earth, in whom all Ihe di- 
vine attributes harmonize in perfection. 
This illustrious being made man in his own 
image (i. e.) innocent, sinless, upright, mo- 
rally, with a susceptibility to render impli- 
cit obedience to divine requisition. A law 
of that import was given as a rule of life, 
which was also a covenant of works. This 
law protected & shielded man in innocence, 
& according to the dignity of God inflicted 
its penalty on the guilty; or the dignity of 
God be sullied & the law fail to breathe the 
perfection of deity. Man violated the law 
and was guilty, and the law inflicts its pen- 
alty, which was death; death passes on all 
for all have sinned, which slays the up- 
rightness of man. He is said to be naked, 
(i. e) uncovered of innocence; as in Adam 
all die, &e. 1st Cor. 15 c. 22 v. which al- 
ludes to a general death and to a general re- 
surreclion. Assuch we have all sinned and 
come short of the glory of God, &c. 

Now, dear brethren, in order to be- 
come sinners, we must be under the law; 
where there is no law, there is no trans- 
gession or sin, and thus we apprehend 
that the sting of death is sin, and the 
strength of sin the law. 1st Cor. 15 c. 56 
v. The law is a ministration of death, the 
wages of sin is death, and without sin which 
is the transgression of the law, no man can 
die or be punished. The wages of sin ia 
death. Rom. 6 c. 23 v. B3^ the disobedienca 
of one man sin hath entered into the world 
and deaih by sin, so that death hath passed 
upon all for that all have sinned. This sen- 
tence embraces all the human family, and 
all became inimical to God, by the se- 
duction and radical influence of the satani- 
cal king. Yet the law retains its elastic 
vigor and its holy rectitude as such, whan 



All man compar- 4v. And therefore brethren, you that have 
the gift of faith hath also the gift of a pre- 
cious Christ. 1st Peter 2 c. 7 v. The idea 
of election and predestination does fairly 
put away all and every primary cause of 
salvation on the part of the creature; for 
if there is any thing in any creature that 
has the pre-eminence in its superiority, its 
superiority would recommend itself, which 
would supersede the act of predestination. 
But it is not thus, as many vainly suppose; 
which is clearly shown in the case of Ja- 
cob and Esau. They were of the same 
parents, of the same flesh and blood, and of 
the same birth, neither having done good to 
recommend themselves; yet the purpose of 
God according to election stands, that Ja- 
cob is loved and Esau hated. And yet 
God stands God, (infinite) working all 
things after his own council (perfect;) man 
is strictly engaged for the promotion 
of his best interest according to his knowl- 
edge; vary the avenues of his interest, and 
he is changed. Not so with God. Nei- 
ther do the will and perfection of God come 
under the influence of any or all created 
matter, but all created matter comes un- 
der the influence of God, and are subject to 
him. Therefore the superiority of blood 
or birth may not be boasted; if so it strives 
to prostrate the riches of his (God's) grace. 
But the salvation of Israel is to the praise 
of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath 
made us accepted in the beloved. Eph. 1 c. 
6 v. 

Now Jacob was a name ordinarily given, 
through the faith of God's elect or the faith and Israel is a name which God gave him, 
of the operation of God. Eph. 1 c. 9 v. I designating the peculiarity of his condition. 
This mystery is confirmed by Peter, when For Israel shall be saved in the Lord, there- 

contrasted with the law 
ed there is none good, no not one; and 
all blinded by the God of this world and all 
at a distance from God and without hope, 
and without God in the world. And the 
language of their heart is, depart from me, 
O, God, for I desire not the knowledge of 
thy ways. 

But, brethren, after beholding the awful 
vortex into which all men hath plunged 
themselves, which David calls a horrible pit, 
miry clay, &c. God hath brought us up 
(viz: the church,) by the gospel of grace. 
Now, brethren, this peculiar people, the 
bride, the Lamb's wife, is saved by grace; 
not by works, nor any other means, save 
grace. And this grace embraces the vast 
mystery of godliness, and the mystery of 
his will: Come forward, all ye mighty 
men of every rank, expand (he energies 
of your mind, explore the immense fields of 
reason, combine all your multiplied acquire- 
ments, together with all your philosophic 
observations, and paint down if you can, 
according to all your restless & scrutinizing 
displays, and see if you can settle down up- 
on as a cause, of this grace passing by the 
fallen angels and the damned in torment, 
and reaching a glorious gospel chain with 
proportionable links of infinite safety be- 
neath the bride in this horrible pit, and by 
that glorious and strong cord draws her to 
himself in the paradise of ineffable joy. Here 
is the mystery of his will, which glorious 
chain was the beginning of the creation of 
God, which is made known to the saints 

he observes the following, viz: Elect ac 
cording to the foreknowledge of God. 

This election implicates Christ the ser- 
vant of God, and us the church chosen in 
him before the foundation of the world. 
The word is his divine appellation, impli- 
cating his person in the godhead; Christ 
Jesus his mediatorial appellation, in which 
the church stands represented according 
to the stipulations of the covenant of grace. 
In the representation of the church through 
her federal head thnre is nothing natural, 
as such we are told by the great apostle of 
the Gentiles, that the children of the flesh, 
they are not the children of God; but the 
children of the promise they are account- 
ed for the seed. Rom. 9 c. 8 v. Christ the 
elect of the Father; and as before observed, 
if a Christ, a church chosen in him before 
the foundation of the world. Eph. 1 c. 

fore he loved Jacob and predestinated Isra- 
el according to the purpose of his will. 
And I would have my readers to remember, 
that all the goings forth of God towards Is- 
rael, were not in consequence of any supe- 
riority which he entertained over Esau; 
which does away all his groundsof boasting, 
and therefore shall not he, and David, and 
Peter, and Paul, and all the saints be prepa- 
red to extol and speak of the riches «f his 
grace. Nor is this grace productive of 
licentiousness, as is thought by Ishmaelites. 
And I must say to all boasters of flesh and 
blood, that the economy of grace according 
to the spirit hath said that flesh and blood 
cannot inherit eternal life; but infinitely 
displays its discriminating genius in thus 
saying: Two grinding in the mill, one shall 
be taken, the other left. This through ev- 
ery nation, kindred, tongue and people; to 



the North give up, to the South keep not 
back: Come, ye blessed of my Father. 

And it is, dear brethren, by his spi- 
rit ye are made the adopted sons of God, 
whereby ye cry, Abba, Father; and by 
which ye are a parrticipant of the di- 
vine nature, and are of the household of 
faith. Gal. 4 c. 4, 5, 6 v. Yet the saints 
must confess we were b}' nature children 
of wrath, and were fulfil ling.the desires of a 
carnal mind, till illumed and quickened 
by the spirit, and impregnated with a vital 
spark; and through the divine opera- 
tions of the graces of the gospel, which were 
given us in him before the foundation of 
the world, we are brought home to Zion 
with songs and everlasting joy upon our 
heads. And notwithstanding the world is 
abounding with prowling; lions, they shall 
not go upon the hill of Zion, for the Lord 
hath put his watchmen upon the walls, arad 
oh! brethren, I rejoice to hear their sound 
through the medium of our Primitive 
advocate. I rejoice tint we have so many I 
writers, a Lassetter, a Tillery, a Moseley, a j 
Whatley, a Rorer, a Lawrence, and many 
other precious brethren, too tedious to 
mention; and amongst others, an Osbourn, 
whose name is too precious to be forgotlen; 
though we have not seen his name upon our 
sheets for a considerable lapse of time, we 
long to hear from his copious & flowing pen. 
The enemy of all good would fain still his 
quiver. We have understood that the wes- 
tern hills have been saluted with his voice, 
and if so, we doubt not but that the tender 
lambs of the fold have been gospelly fed up- 
on the sincere milk of the word, and that 
Ishmaels have smarted under his rod. And 
should this come under his observation, 
we here solicit of him a visit; lh;it we are 
bereaved of our old and faithful brother 
Davis of Henry, Va., and should be glad to 
see his old companion in the gospel. 

Deaifcbrethren, as one much despised and 
hated for the public testimony which 1 bear 
thro' grace to the gospel in its divine sim- 
plicity, 1 will tell you how the missionaries 
do in some cases in order to their promotion; 
when they can preach to a sound audience, 
they will approximate as near to the gospel 
as possible, in order to pass their scrutiny 
with approbation; which will, as it were, 
serve as a recommendation to that preacher, 
and engage the confidence of unskilled per- 
sons; this done, they then have it in their 
own power to impose heterodox matter of 
the most noxious kind. The devil, you 
know, has the power of transforming him- 

self; therefore watch, as Christ hath com- 
manded; attend strictly to every touch up- 
on polemical points. 

May the Lord bless your paper to the 
edification and comfort of saints, and to 
the alarming of sinners. May it be instru- 
mental in stirring up the pure minds of 
all God's people, and to the bringing them 
out from the anti-chrislian demagogues 
of this day of darkness, that they may 
worship the Lord in the holy mount at Je- 
rusalem, is the prayer of your unworthy 
brother in tribulation. 




SATURDAY, MAY 9, 1840. 

A manuscript package has arrived at the Post 
Office in this place, directed to Editors Primitive 
Baptist, postmarked Greensborough, Ala, April 4, 
weight 5 ounces, postage $5 — also, another post- 
mark, Nashville,Ten. April 20, $5 postage added, 
making $10 and endorsed: "This package was 
picked out of the mail at this office very wet." Be- 
ing unwilling to pay the postage, the package 
remains in the post office, and this nolice is given 
that the writer may be aware of its location. 


No. 5. 

Dear Brethren: I once more desire to remind 
you, that there is in the believer a carnal affection 
and a spiritual affectioni We should use every 
exertion to hold in subjection the one — treat it with 
insignificance and suppress it when necessary, and 
never lose sight of the other. This is an impor- 
tant consideration in the subject on which I have 
been treating; and I desire it to be seriously im- 
pressed on our minds, that we may not be 
overtaken unawares in this day of drought and 
famine, when carnal affections appear to exert an 
undue influence in our minds. They may answer 
to a certain extent but should never predominate, 
or be permitted to run out in advance of spiritual 
affection. We should not indulge in likes or dis- 
likes, except on the score of a conformity or non- 
conformity to the Christian character. That is, 
should not love a brother particularly, on account 
of his natural pleasing or popular turn of manners; 
neither should we dislike a brother, on account 
of his unpopular turn of manners in the social cir- 
cle, or because he is not with ourselves in opinion 
on every secular matter that transpires around usi 
This should be overlooked and our spiritual union 
mainly considered, 



Remember, brethren, that "ye are a chosen gene- 
ration, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar 
people; that ys should show forth the praises of him 
who hath called you out of darkness into his mar- 
vellous light; which in time past were nota people, 
but are now the people of God; which had not 
obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy." 
"Wherefore laying aside all malicp, and all guile, 
and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, 
as new born babes desire the sincere milk of the 
word, that ye may grow thereby; if so be ye have 
tasted that the Lord is gracious: To whom com- 
ing as unto a loving stone, disallowed indeed of 
men but chosen of God and precious. Ye also as 
lively stones are built up a spiritual house, a holy 
priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, accepta 
bleto God by Jesus Christ." "Thatye put off con- 
cerning the former conversation, the old man which 
is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; and be 
renewed in the spirit of your mind; and that ye put 
on the new man which afier God is created in righ- 
teousness and true holiness." "Be ye angry and 
sin not; let not the sun go down upon your wrath, 


Edgecombe county, N. C. May, 1810. 

Valuable as truth is, it has frequently met with 
eneniies among men. Hence, the arts that sophis- 
try lias used to weaken its force, to tarnish its beau- 
ty, and undervalue its worth. Hence the violence 
that power has committed to cover its page, and 
silence its voice. And hence, the timidity of fear 
in suppressing it, the influence of favor in coloring 
it, the audacity of prejudice in misrepresenting it, 
and ail attempts of falsehood to destroy it. Yet 
it possesses various and large resources, which 
render it prevalent! These it has to use against 
its f>e3 on questions not self evident; and even on 
points established by the evidence of sensation, 
and such as are sustained by the testimony of in- 
spiration! Among the methods pursued either to 
overthrow itor to defend it, are those indicated by 
the terms at the head of this article. When used 
properly they are useful instruments in promoting 
neither give place to the devil. Let no corrupt com- j truth; when used improperly they are mischievous 
munication proceed out of your mouth, but that i weapons against it. 

which is good to the use of edifying, that it may J Controversy is defined to be, dispute; debate; 
minister grace unto the hearers. And grieve not quarrel; agitation of contrary opinions; a conten- 
the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed lion in writing. Discussion, to be, disquisition; 
unto the day of redemption." J examination; the agitation of a subject with the 

And what shall we say. more? Time would | view to elicit truth; the treating of a subject by 
fail us to speak of all the privileges and blessings ' argument. Investigation, searching; examination; 
of this holy band— this heavenly compact; and of the act of the mind whereby unknown truths are 
the abundant fruits of that righteousness of the ' discovered; the process of searching minutely for 
Lord Jesus Christ, which is given unto the un- truth, facts, or principles; a careful inquiring to 
godly through faith in his name. "If there be find out what is unknown. 

therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort Discussion and investigation are terms never 
of love, if any fellowship of the spirit, if any used in a bad sense; and the latter is seldom 
bowels and mercies, fulfil ye my joy, that ye abused, since few of the enemies of truth are will- 
be like-minded, having the same love, being of one trig to exercise the patience and suffer the trouble 
accord, of one mind. Let nothing be done thro' necessary for investigation. Discussion, used sim- 
strife or vain glory, but in lowness of mind let each ply in itself, is a useful handmaid to truth; and 
esteem others better than themselves. Look not is never objectionable nor culpable only as it is 
every man on his own things, but every man also cumbered with interpolations of false reasoning, 
on the thinas of others," "Do all things without and stained with fits of derision and abuse. Con- 
murmuring°s & disputings; that ye may be blame* troversy is oftener used in a bad sen#; seldom 
less, the sons of God without rebuke, in the midst j conducted in a proper spirit; and is oftener made 
of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye the vehicle of ill will and revenge, than the chan- 
shine as lights in the world." Follow after charity, I nel of sound argument and truth. Yet when used 
which is love, and desire the best gift. Make the ! only to agitate contrary opinions, it is not only 
best and the most of the talents committed unto j justifiable but commendable. And as religions 
each one of you by our common Lord and master, controversy is so general at the present time, a few 
that at his coming he may receive his own with ! thoughts on the manner of conducting it will not 

interest. Be instant in season and out of season, 
and by preaching, by writing, by talking, and 
walh\ng, comfort. and edify one another and glorify 
your Father which is in heaven. 

(to be continued.) 


be ill limedi 

And under all the circumstances, it is expectpd, 
brethren of the Old School Baptists, that yon will 
exhibit most of Christian fortitude and Christian 
temper, both in discussion among yourselves, and 
in controversy with the New School and othori, 



R^eolleet 1, "That all things else should yi*ld ihey really mean todj good, 
to, or be sacrificed, to truth and good will to men. Grace be with you all, my breihren. 
Nothing, then, that is strictly carnal & selfish can MIRK BENNETTt 

«nter into controversy but tint truth must suffer. 
The gratification of any of the feelings of our unre- 
newed man, betrays a willingness, if not a design, 
to do injury. 

2. That to save the truth from hazard or suffer- 
jng&to be able to surrender all to it, confine your- 
selves to thesuhjeet of debate; notice nothing else 
till you are through that; and when you have 
written as much as you can without dropping 
the point in q uestion and taking up the adverse 
party himself, then lay down your pen. It fre- 
quently h appensthat a person is so closely con- 
nected with a subject, that it, is impossible to treat 
of the subject clearly without frequent use of his 
name. But this will always appear from a judi- 
cious use of terms, If we apply to our opponent 
any epithets or names which do not represent /is 
true character, then we are at once guilty of ab/ie, 
6ince we are perverting the intention and use of 
language. And all terms which are not necessa- 
ry to the examination of a subject, which are ei- 
ther designed or calculated to degrade the charac- 
ter, question the veracity, wound the feelings, or 

deride the person of your opponents, will even- VAT TVnirTnRV 

tuaily lose more for your cause than they can gain i ' 

, ., ! Dear Bretftrkn: — Our editorial re 

for iti ..... . ... 

o tu . .'i nuc t. 1 „ L-uL-^-'-M-.ii;'^ I<uion with you is now about to be dis- 
3. That the Old School cause needs noblandish- i J , 

, c , , ■ e i-i j .1 nt I solved yet wi I eave other ties, 
ment or artful adorning of any kind; and the New ' ' J 

„,,.,, . ; , ,, ,, | nope ot a belter and more 

School is bad enough to need no darker shades — ' , . . , . 

j ., , . , . ,- , .,, ' . a- , .. na'ure, which neither time, death 

described in plain terms and without enort, tis ' . ... 

|ei':rniiy. we trust, will ever sever. In 

fcnking our leave of you as Editor of The 

Correspondent, we feel that we are only 

yielding to propriety and not to any kind of 

From the Correspondent. 

Mur/rec-shoro* , Tenn. Jlpril, 1S40. 
From the number of discontinuances, 
and the non-payment of nearly half of 
the subscribers transferred lo us from the 
Oid Baptist Burner, we shall be compelled 
to stop our paper. — The Publisher cannot 
cany it on,in tiie present s' ate of I hings with- 
out a serious loss. Surely the subscribers to 
the Old Baptist Banner, who have rereiv- 
ed our paper, according to our proposals 
will not now decline paying; for it. Some 
may think the payment of one doilir a 
little matter, anil if all think and act in thit 
way, the Publisher will he deprived of 
nearl)' or quite g>300, which cannot he a 
trifle with him these hard times. Fur- 
ther we hope that a sense of mora! du- 
ty will compel all who have not yet 
paid, to remit, without delay, their respec- 
tive arrears. — Ed. 

ties, we 

hut a scene of shades and darkness. Then let 
all yonr figures and emblems and representations 
be familiar, modest and pertinent, and in all cases 

4. That he, who in religious controversy uses 
ridicule for argument, ridicules himself and 
sports with his cause. The idea, that any person, 
or his argnments; cannot be treated as they merit, 
but by derision or satire, is mistaken, Whatever 
deserves our contempt calls for our silence. 
The proper contempt for a Christian to exercise, is 
to let no one know the object of his scorn. The 
act of deriding is reflective, and falls back inevit- 
ably upon him who ridicules his adversary. 

5. The manner of doing a thing deserves partic- 
ular attention, as well as the object we have in 
view. Indeed our motive is often determined by 

an interdict, that ma}' hereafter prevent a 
free interchange of sentimenis; for ' The 
Signs of Ike Times, Primitive linptist, 
a. id Doctrinal Advocate,' will we presume 
be continued; and through them we may 
yet correspond, yea "Speak often one to 
another. 1 ' 

As our paper is only half the size of 
one and published only once a month, 
while, two others of equal size are pub- 
lished'semi-monthly, and yet at the same 
rost, we should not be surprised at the 
withdrawal of some of our subscribers. 
We have never regarded patronage of our 

the manner in which we act. If in my treatment of paper as a test of fellowship, - no, we have 

predicated that of better things. 

We have tried to pursue a course conso- 
nant with the scriptures of divine truth, but 
never entertained a hope that we should 
please all our readers: our paper could not 
have subserved the cause of truth and 
done this; and we would sooner have it 

an individual, his good is my chief aim, my man- 
ner will speak good will, it being so shaped as will 
be most likely to effect his good. But if my man- 
ner be such as is likely lodo him more harm than 
good, then my motive deserves to be suspected. 
Few men are so blind or so reckless as not to con- 
sult the most probable means of success, where 



stopped than go on in violation of truth, 
or 'a right spirit. ' We have plain]}' and 
frankly set forth our religious sentiments, 
and on a careful review of the same, we 
have nothing to take back: no apology to 
offer to Antinomians for leaching practical 
religion; none to Arminians for showing 
that 'salvation is of God' alone, nor to the 
world for teaching things that may be 
deemed foolishness. We feel amenable to 
one only, whose testimony alone we have 
labored to set forth. 

We are yet in favor of 'Old Baptist' 
periodicals and regard it a great privilege 
to speak to, and hear from, our brethren 
through them. By them we have been 
comforted and strengthened, and have be- 
come acquainted wiih many brethren for 
whom we entertain Christian fellowship, 
although we have never seen them in the 
flesh; yet at the same time, we will not 
conceal the fact, that we have, through the 
same medium become acquainted with 
others, whom we are constrained to stand 
*in doubt of,' from the spirit of pride, vin- 
dictive feeling & self sufficiency manifested 
in their writings. The blessed truths of the 
gospel are most adorned by the spirit of 
the gospel, and do not look well in con- 
nection with any other spirit. We see in- 
deed much to admire and be thankful for 
in the writings of our Old Baptist brethren, 
but alas! we too often have just cause to 
deplore their want of 'a right spirit. ' Some 
of our brethren seem to have forgotten 
that we are commanded to instruct those 
who oppose, in meekness and not in pride, 
in love and not in hatred — that we are to 
contend for the faith earnestly and not 
vindictively — That we are to seek an unc- 
tion on high, and not stir up carnal feelings 
within. Our readers will pardon our digres- 
sion in view of its importance. 

Brethren let us 'try the spirits,' let us 
beware of false ones — Let us endeavour 
to keep the unity of the Spirit in the 
bonds of peace. We should seek this 
through our Old Baptist papers as well 
as through other means. There are popu- 
lar spirits as well as popular heresies, and 
some seem to think if they can only avoid 
heresy in the letter, it makes no difference 
what kind of a spirit they may have and 
show forth. 

Moreover we have been much pleased 
to see that many of our beloved brethren 
are fond of reading both the scriptures of 
truth and the writings of men of grace; 
but from our personal acquaintance with 

others, we would infer they neglect this to 
a shameful extent. Where we have pro- 
posed Old Baptist papers and other spir- 
itual writings to them, to read, they 
would say they read nothing but the 
scriptures — a sure evidence that they 
read them but seldom, if at all. We must 
close. — Finally, brethren, farewell, t be 
perfect, be of good comfort, be of one 
mind, live in peace; and the God of love 
and peace be with you. — Ed. 

from the fact that 
year to pay in, 

Our readers will have discovered on 
reading the editorial in this No. that we 
have concluded to discontinue the publica- 
tion of the Correspondent. The publisher 
regrets that he is compelled so to do: but 
the circumstances in which he is placed 
leaves him no alternative. Of about 600 
names on his book but about half is 
paid: and from those who have paid, 
he has received notices from about 60 to 
discontinue: and it is more than probable 
that as many more would have given 
similar notice on the receipt of the last 
number. Many others also have discon- 
tinued their papers without having paid 
any thing. If all had paid, the publish- 
er would have cleared expenses, but he 
cannot help believing there are many 
who will never pay, 
they have had nearly a 
and have not yet done so. — The publisher 
hopes however, that all who have received 
the paper will make an effort to do 
justly: one dollar is a small amount to an 
individual, but the aggregate is all im- 
portant to us, and the laborer is worthy 
of his hi re, and ought to have it. With many 
the sum due is a debt of honor: no oppor- 
tunity offers to collect it, and we are 
compelled to leave the matter to their own 
consciences, and sense of justice. We 
must pay for workmen, for paper, &c. &c. 
and we cannot do it without receiving 
our just dues. To subscribers at a distance 
we would say, to save postage in transmit- 
ting money to us, that Postmasters are 
authorized to send money for subscriptions 
to papers, free, provided they write the 
letter themselves. Postage is # a tax that 
we cannot afford. 

We can supply the work complete 
from the commencement embracing two 
.years, for 451.50. We would be glad to 
receive orders for them, post paid. And 
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shall he supplied ou giving us information 
of the fact. 



In conclusion, we tender our thanks to 
those who have aided us in the work and 
to all who have paid promptly. We would 
thank those also who are in arrears to re- 
member us without delay. — Publisher. 


South Carolina, Spartanburg dist. > 
March22nd, 1840. $ 
Good morning to the poor fools that 
write in the Primitive paper. Think you to 
yourself, you have begun very rough, sir? 
Yes, sir, I confess it seems rough, but not 
rougher than some of the great benevolent 
preachers (falsely so called) say about you. 
One of them got hold of one of* my papers 
from one of my brethren & read it through; 
when he returned it to my brother he said, 
any body that thought any thing of them- 
selves would not read them. 

It was not long till my brother came to see 
me again. I had just got the 21st No. of 
the fourth volume, and on page 324 and 
ending on page 326, a piece, wrote by John 
Lassetter, Troup county, Georgia. I 
thought it was the greatest piece I ev- 
er saw wrote; every body that would 
come, I would take down my paper and 
read that piece to them; and when my bro- 
ther came as usual, 1 took down my pa- 
per and read it to him. He would have it; 
he said he wanted John Green to read it, 
one of our great missionary and temperance 
society preachers. When he read it through 
and returned it he said, they were poor 
fools that wrote that. Yes 1 say poor too; 
and what did Christ say about the poor, 
when he was preaching his sermon 
on the mount? See Mathew 5 ch. 3 v.: 
Blessed are-the poor in spirit, for theirs is 
the kingdom of heaven. Yes, they are 
poor in spirit, but rich in grace. You are 
fools for Christ's sake, but wise unto salva- 
tion. And I believe that the poor have the 
gospel preached to them in its purity, thro' 
the Primitive papers, and I believe they 
all have become fools, that they might be 
made wise. 

1 might fill up my sheet on this subject, 
hut I shall quit it and begin on something 
else. I want to make some apology for not 
•writing sooner, and that is, I have been 
trying to make up a company but have fail- 
ed in the attempt. Not because the peo- 
ple do not like the papers; no sir, for the 
people in this section all like them except 
the Ishmaelites; they despise them, not be- 

cause they the Ishmaelites can condemn 
the doctrine your paper holds forth; no, sir, 
it is because the doctrine condemns them 
in their money making schemes and crafts 
of the day. I know of ten or twelve that 
would take them, but the ill convenience 
of a post office, hard times, and scarcity 
of money prevents them. I only have the 
pleasure of sending the name of one more 
new subscriber whose name you will find 
at the bottom. 

Now I will say to you as I said before, 
except I or your paper change, I shall take 
them as long as I live or can pay for them. 
So no more at the present, but remain your 
sincere friend and will wisher to the cause 
of truth and liberty. 



Alabama, Monroe county, ? 
March 19 th, 1840. 5 

Dear brethren Editors: Through 
the mercy af a kind benefactor, I have 
been favored in getting a few of your pa- 
pers which concur with my feelings, and 
causes me to thank God, that he has reser- 
ved to himself a little few according to the 
election of grace, who have not bowed the 
knee to the image of Baal. 

1 have suffered very much in mind in 
consequence of the new schemes of the 
day, believing them to be the inventions 
of man, and have tried with all the pow- 
ers of my mind to overcome my prejudice, 
but have never been able to find such a 
system authorised by the word of God. 
Also viewing the great distress that it 
has brought on the churches, I have be- 
come established in my mind that it has 
grown out of the corruption of man, who 
has blended the world and church together, 
which is contrary to the word of God: 
Wherefore, come out from among them 
and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and 
teach not the unclean thing, and I will 
receive you", &c. But men have become 
so wise in the present day or age of the 
world, that they have found out that God can- 
not save souls without the agency of men. 
Souls are dying for the want of money, 
O! my God, is it not a stigma upon the 
perfection of him who spoke worlds into 
being? Is he dependent on the feeble agen^ 
cy of man, for the spread of the gospel? 
I answer, no. So then, it is not of him 
that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of 

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God that showeth mercy. Respectfully 
yours, in gospel bonds. 



JHabamu, Barbour counfy, ? 
January 24th, 1840. ^ 

Deak Brethren: 1 received six copies 
of your valuable paper the Primitive, and 
I want you to continue them until other- 
wise directed. I take the liberty of say- 
ing, that I think it is doing much good in 
this part of the country, although I hear 
some say, that they had as lieve read what 
is called the devil upon two sticks; but as 
for my part, I find some of the loudest 
kind of preaching in them to my feelings. 
Those characters profess to be Baptist 
preachers at that, and to designate the two 
persons saint anil sinner; they had just as 
soon take a goat into the church as a sheep, 
for the larger the flock the more fleece; for 
a goat's money will do as well as a sheep's, 
and the money is what they are afier. 
For there was one round in this part some- 
time ago, at New Providence meeting 
house, and he had no hearers; and the rea- 
son was, the members did not believe in 
his doctrines. And he went to an old bro- 
ther's house and the old sister asked him, 
when he was going to come again; and he 
said he met with poor encouragement here, 
for he could go to the Alabama river and 
get six hundred dollars a year for oversee- 
ing, and he could not get the half of it for 
preaching through this part of the country. 
So he did not go to that meeting house any 
more. And if all the money preachers 
could meet with such treatment, we would 
soon be rid of them. 

The reason 1 say a goat's money is as 
good as any is, because I hear some say 
that man has the right of choice of every 
thing in the world, with the exception of 
one, that is, lie must come to judgment — 
free will doctrine at once, and that will not 
do for me, for it is not consistent with my 
Bible. And the same character tells the 
people to come and join the church, and 
not wait to get good, but gel religion after- 
wards — Arminian, not Baptist, though 
professing to be a Baptist, and says that he 
holds to the Baptist article of faith. I heard 
another in preachingacknowledge the total 
depravity of man, and before he got 
through, said man was endowed with in- 
tellect enough from on high by reading the 
scriptures to obtain salvation; which was a 

contradiction in his preaching, to my un- 

So I conclude by subscribing myself 
yours in the bonds of the gospel. 

«/. D. COOPER. 


Monroe counfy, Georgia, 
March Uth, 1840. 

Dear and beloved brethren Edi- 
tors: I again resume my pen in order to 
inform you, that I receive the Primitive 
Baptist tolerably regular, and I read them 
with delight; but am often made to sym- 
pathize in reading the productions of my 
beloved brethren, in seeing the difficulties', 
troubles and trials they have had to wada 
through, iu contending for that faith once 
delivered to the saints; while the Ishmaeli- 
tish mockers, with their train of mendi- 
cants, have endeavored to ride over them 
rough shod, and impose on them their 
church traffic. 

For they are legislating for the church, 
I say legislating, brethren, because they 
are giving new laws to her, or new instruc- 
tions, which are not known in the apostol- 
ic age, which are an appendage, and are 
held so by them — for proof, see the effort 
system. While the Old School Baptist 
contends that salvation is by grace, and 
that the church of Christ is the highest ec- 
clesiastical court under heaven, and that 
her authority is judicial and not legislative, 
which was given by her great head and 
lawgiver; and that it is sufficient for her 
government, and he that addeth or dimin- 
ishes incurs the penalties that are spoken 
of in Revelations. Therefore we have no 
authority from the man of her counsel for 
such traffic, and consequently ha"ve thrown 
all such rubbish overboard; for if such tra- 
ditions had been necessary, it would have 
been left on record for her instruction: 
What was written aforetime was for our 
learning, &c. 

Dear brethren, as I expect to be short I 
shall hasten to a close, as my mind is in a 
bad frame, as it is in a confused shuation, 
as much so as it ever was I do reckon, as I 
am encumbered about with many things 
at this time. So, brethren, farewell. If I 
never see you in this vale of tears, I love 
you and hope to meet you around the daz- 
zling throne of God, where we shall join 
in with the church of the first-born, in one 
eternal song of praise for dying love and 
redeeming grace, through the countless 



ages of eternity. And 0, my brethren, if 
my heart deceives me not, it is my desire 
to see Jhe cause of my blessed Jesus pros- 
per once more, and flourish as the green 
bny tree. For there appears to be a great 
commotion in church and state, ant! thai 
God would guard and direct the affairs of 
our blessed government, and drive out all 
seisms and divisions out of ihe land, and 
bind us together as a people in the strong- 
est bonds of brotherly love, and cause the 
tree of liberly to take deep root, and to 
grow and thrive and cause her branches to 
extend lo Mt. Chimborazo, and for us to 
still eat of its delicious fruits, as we have 
for sixty years, and none to make us 
afraid. that men would.praise the Lord, 
for his mercy and goodness endureth for- 
ever, praise ye the Lord. 

Remember me, brethren, in your pray- 
ers. So I conclude — a poor devil-possess- 
ed Gadarene. 


Cambridge, So.Ca. } 
April 1 5th, 1S40. 5 
Dear Editors: I send you enclosed five 
dollars, which we appreciates small tribute 
for so valuable a publication; not only for 
advocating the doctrine of the gospel with 
so much clearness, but also for bringing to 
view the many channels through which the 
benevolent clergy are sapping at the very 
foundation of our liberties; and hence it is 
that they denounce the Primitive Baptist 
with so much vehemence. It has done 
great injury lo their cause of temperance, 
benevolence, &c. C. CAR TER. 

Georgia, Troup county, ~) 
April 25th, 1S40. 5 

Dear brethren Editors: At the re- 
quest of some of my brethren 1 for the first 
time take my pen in hand as agent to in- 
form you, that the brethren whose names 
nre hereunto annexed, wish their paper the 
Primitive Baptist continued until other- 
wise directed. 

We have nothing of interest in this sec- 
tion of country at present. The churches 
have nearly all been divided, and the Pri- 
mitives have generally cleared their houses 
of the trumpery which has so long been a 
pest to the people of God. 

As I do not wish to be lengthy, I will 
come to a close; and may Elijah's God pre- 
side over you, is the prayer of your unwor- 
thy brother in the bonds of the gospel of 



North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. WilRahnstan, 
R. M. G. Moore, German/on. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washington, James Sou- 
ilierland, Warrenton. Charles Mason', Roxboro'. 
James Wilder, Anderson' 's Store. Benj. Bynum, 
Speight's Bridge. H. S.vera, Averasboro'. J, PI. 
Keneday, Chalk Leve], Burwell Temple, Woke co. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Lcahsville. Wmi H. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, Smithficld. 
James H. Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B, Bennett, Heathville. Alfred El- 
lis, Slrabane, Cor's Cauaday, Cravensville. Wil- 
liam We] ah, Abbott's Creek, J. Lamb, Camden 
C.H. A. B. Bains, fr, Stanhope. C.T.Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tillery, Laplond. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 
kerson, West Point. Isaac Alderman, Moore's Creek, 
James Miller, Milton Park. 

South Carolina. — Wm. Hardy, Saluda Hill, 
James Hembree, Sen. Anderson C. H. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. B. Lawrence, Effingham, 
James Burris, Sen. Bold Spring. William S. 
Shaw, Bock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackville. An- 
drew Westmoreland, Caskvi/le. James Ji Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Branch. Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers, Crowsville, Marshal Mc- 
Graw, Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cookham's. 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDonough. John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Hollo way, Lugran ge. P, M. Cal- 
houn, Knoxville. R. Reese, Eaton I on. Thomas 
Amis and David Wi Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Neel, James Hoi lings worth and Stephen 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bowdoin, Adairsville. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatoie. Clark Jackson and Ahednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. John Gayden,i , Va«A-/m. P. 
H. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, 'Phoni- 
aston. William Bowden,'£7mo« Valley. Ezra Mc- 
Crary, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. John Lassetter, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Peacock, Cassville. V. D. Whatley, Barnesville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, Mount Morne. 
Elias 0. Hawthorn, Buinbridgt J. G. Wintrinn-- 
ham, Florence. William Mi Amos, GreenviWe. 
Randolph Arnold, Latimer's Store. Thomas J. 
Bazemore, Clititon. Jcmah Stovall, AquiWa. G. 
P.Cannon, CuUodennille, Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. VIcElvy, Attapulgus. Furna Ivey, 
Milled geville. Wm. Garrett, Cotton River, Jesse 
Moore, George Herndon and John Hardie, frwin- 
ton. Leonard Pratt, Whitehville. Edward Jones, 
Decatur. Israel Hendon, Shi\o. Robert B.Mann, 
Chesnut Grove. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
John Lawhon, Ckenuba. John Herington, Wel- 
born's Mills, James P. Ellis, PineviWe. F. Hag- 
gard, Athens. II. Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Valley. Josiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
O' Neel, Fowlton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro', 
J. B. Morgan &.B,P.Rouse,i ; Vjeno'.s/(//?. Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fair Play. John Wayne, Cain's, ISdmund 
Stewart, Hootensville. R, S. Hamrick, Carrollton. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery. Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, Blakely, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
TarversviUe, John Stroud, Kendall. James Scar- 



borough, Sialesbortugh, Young Ti Standifer, 
Mulberry Orove. Robert R. Thompson, C&ntre- 
ville. Young Ti Standifer, Mulberry Grove. Ja- 
red Johnson, Troupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncan sville. Edmund Si Chambless, Stallings 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, JohnstonviMe. David Rowell, Jr. Groo 
versatile. Joel Colley, Covington, Benjamin C. 
Burns, ViWa Ricca, David Jones, Traveller's Rest. 

Alabama. — L.B. Moseley, Cahawba. A. Kea- 
ton, McConico. John Blackstone, La Fayette. W. 
w. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wm.w, Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'l 
Gafford, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow Hill. 
John G.Walker, Milton. Henry Williams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron. James 
Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Church Hilt. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Leighton, 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
ton. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her. 
ring, Clayton. G, w. Jeter, Pint Lala, Samuel 
Ci Johnson, Pliasant Grove. William Crutcher, 
Huntsville. W illiam Hi Cook, Pickensville. 
Seaborn Hamrick, Plantersville. William Mel- 
ton, Bluff Port. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Wm. 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus Daniel, Jameston, An- 
derson w. Bullard, Tusgegee. Frederick Hines- 
Gaston, Z.Johns, Tiara, Eli McDonald, Painsville. 
Wm. Powell, YoungsviWe. John Brown, Wacooca, 
Silas Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, R.Lackey, Scraper, 
James F. Watson, Abbeville. David Treadwell 
and R.w. Cwl\sle,Mount Hickory. Sam'l T.Owen, 
Argus, Joseph H-Holloway, Htzle Green. Luke 
R. Simmons, Troy. Jesse Lee, Farmersville, 
William S. Armstrong, Louitville. Mark Porter, 
Demopolis, Henry Adams, Mount Willing. Joel 
Hi Chambless, Lowsville. Elliot Thomas, Wil- 
liamston, F. Pickett, China Grove, James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M. Pearson, Dadeville. W. 
J. Sorelle, Wetumpka, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, Soukeehatchie. James Searcy, Iriointon, 
Hazael Littlefield, Ten Islands. John w. Pellum, 
Franklin, Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D. Cooper, Wi\- 
Mamston, John Harrell, Missouri. James K. 
Jacks, Eliton. Henry Hilliard, BeWville. John 
A. Miller, Oakfuskee. Durham Kelly, Alexan- 
dria, Josiah M. Lauderdale, Athens, William 
Thomas, Prospect Ridge. John Bishop, Jnn'r. 
Crockettsville. James Gray, Cuseta. Thomas L. 
Roberts, Monroeville. Morgan Howard, Centre- 

Tennessee.— A. V. Farmer, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
chael Burkhalter, Cheeksville, Tho's K. Clingan, 
Smith's X Roads. W .E. Pope, Philadelphia. Aaron 
Compton, Somerville. Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, Meesville. James 
Mau Id en, Fan Buren. A. Burroughs, Wesley. Wm. 
Croom, Jackson. Sion Bass, Three Forks, John w. 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough, Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Sevierville. 
Thos. B.Yeztea,Lynchburg. C.T. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Medon. Levi Kirkland and George 
Turner, Waverly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodysville, Pleasant A. Witt, Check's 
M Roads. Ji Cooper, Unionville. Michael Bran- 
yon, Long Savannah. Jasi Hi Holloway, Hazel 

Green, William McBee, Old Town Creek, fieri 5 
jamin w. Harget, Cherryville, Robert Gregory, 
Carouth's X Roads. John Scallorn, Shady Giovei 

Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Springs, 
WorshamMann Columbus. Wm. Huddleston,77iO- 
maston. Nathan Tims, Kosciusko, Jona.D. Cain, 
Waterford. Nathan Morris, Lexington, Charles 
Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris, 
Wheeling. Simpson Parks, Lockhart^s Store, 
Mark Prevvett, Aberdeen, Wm. Ringo, Hamilton. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas IL Dixon, Macon. John Erwin, 
Linkhorne, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil* 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and Micajah 
Crenshaw, Marion. Wm.H Warren, Dekalb. C. 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Wooten Hill, Cooksw'llei 
WiUiam Clark, Marion. 

FloridAi — James Alderman and Pi Blount, 
China Hill. David Callaway ,[Cherry Lake. John 
F. Hagan, Montlcello. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, Marbaryville. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro' . Uriah Stevens, 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson. 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View, 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Saltzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac Wt Denman, Gallatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Philanthropy. John 
B. Moses, Germanton, 

Kentucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, Comeliusville. Levi Lancaster, 

Virginia.— Kemnel C. Gilbert, Sydnorsville. 
Rudolph Rorer, Berger's Store. John Clark, Pre* 
dericksburg. Wm. w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifax C, H, George w. Sanford, 
Harrisonburg. Jesse Lankford, Bowers's, Eli- 
jah Hansbrough, Somerville. Wilson Davenport, 
White House. Arthur w. Eanes, Edgehill, James 
B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. 

New York.— Gilbert Beebe, iVew Vernon. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, South Hil\. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. Nathan Everitt, 
Chillicoats Town. 


Jesse Lankford, §5 
Benjamin Lloyd, 5 
P. M. Calhoun, 5 
Graddy Herring, 5 
Wm. M. Rushing,! 

John Brown, $1 
Samuel Forest, 1 
Frederick Mayo, 2 
Joel Delph, 1 


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Illinois, Shelby county, ? 
.March 26th, 1840, $ 
Dearly beloved Brethren: Though a 
stranger In the flesh, and at a great distance, 
1 feel such a nearness and union for you, 
and am so cheered by the doctrine of the 
Primitive, that it strengthens my hope 
that I do love the brethren; and if so, a 
child of the same parent. This induces me 
to want to write to you, though I do not 
feel worthy to write to you, nor able to in- 
struct, for I never wrote a line for the press 
in my life before; and I am young, only 27 
last Sept. &no preacher, or at least I do not 
feel like one, though the church here has 
liberated me to exercise a gift, and 1' do 
try sometimes to tell the people they must 
be born again, and point to Jesus the way, 
the truth, & the life. 1 have many fears and 
much weakness to encounter and the worst 
of all is, a proud deceitful heart. Dear 
brethren, if you know any thing about 
such trials & many others, do pray for me. 
There is one thing gives me great conso- 
lation, that the Lord is able out of the 
mouth of babes and sucklings to perfect 
praise. And again, he that hungereth and 
thirstcth after righteousness, shall be filled. 
Brother Thomas Martin has favored me 
with the reading of your excellent paper 
about a year, and I can say that your com- 
munications make me rejoice and mourn. 
I mourn to see the progress of error and 
the splits and divisions it causes, and the 
many difficulties and trials my brethren 
have to encounter. But take courage, for 
all things shall work for your good; even 
the wrath of man shall praise God, and the 

remainder he will restrain. It milst needs' 
be that offences come, but wo to them thro* 
whom they come. The mystery of iniquity 
must be revealed before the end. Therefore, 
let us watch and pray (as we see his^appedr- 
ance) that we may be able to stand. For the 
beast with two horns like a lamb is fast ris- 
ing, I have no doubt, & he is to^exercise all 
the power of the first beast. I rejoice to see 
so many contending for the faith once deliv- 
ered to the saints. There is but one right 
way in this case (as in all others) & I believe 
that is to come out and be separate. A, 
mixed multitude cannot understand one an- 
other, but will be always in confusion. If 
the Lord be God, follow him; but if Baal, 
then follow him. If the Bible is the only 
rule of faith and practice, let us Jstick close 
to it as unto a light that shineth in a dark 
places But if wc are to bs guided by the 
wisdom of this world, let us gd to thd 
theological SGhools. But the wisdom of the 
world is foolishness with God. Wheil 
Paul used his wisdom, it was in persecuting 
the church; but when he became Christ's 
servant, he preached Christ, not with wis- 
dom of words lest the cross of Christ should 
be made of none effect; but in demonstra- 
i tion of the spirit and of power. 

But I intended to glance at some of my 
I feelings. 1 once thought 1 was getting 
i along tolerable well. But when the Lord 
1 as I trust opened my eyes, I discovered 
I that the heart is deceitful above all things 
land desperately wicked. 1 knew that 
I some of my conduct was not right, and 1 
intended to alter my course, repent and 
get religion: but 1 thought I was much 
belter than most people, because I had 
been raised very moral. But when I under- 
took my good works, I fell short in every 
point, till at last I found that my best tho'ts 
were evil & the commandment was exceed- 



ing broad. I now could not see another such 
a sinner in the world, though I was only 
about nine years old. I hud got to see 
that a good work must come from a good 
motive as well as be done by a right rule, 
as brother Paxton informed us; and I found 
no good in me: here I came to despair, not 
in a camp or protracted meeting, but in 
the woods, in Lawrence count}-, Illinois. 1 
was made to cry, Lord, have mercy on me, 
a sinner: but could not see how God could 
be just and save me. Here, Lord, I give 
myself to thee, tis all that I can do. Right 
here, when I had nothing but the goodness 
of God to rest my naked soul on-, my burden 
fell off and a new song put in my mouth, 
even praise to the Lord. And I have never 
been able to get that burden back, though 
] have tried often. 

And for about nve years I had no thought 
that it was religion that 1 had experienced, 
but that it was to show me not to despair. 
But near the close of a refreshing season, in 
Morgan county, the Lord (as I trust) show- 
ed me the little hope I had refused, and 
made me willing to take the crumb now. 
O, how delightful that season was; never 
shall I forget it. I was so glad to be among 
the sheep, though the least of all if 
one at all, and not worthy to be noti- 
ced by them. How unspeakably good 
the Lord is to notice such poor unwor- 
thy creatures, and draw them by the cords 
of his love. 1 can truly say, 1 have never 
seen an end to his goodness; though I have 
past through many trials, yet the Lord 
has delivered me out of them all. What 
shall I render to the Lord, for all his bene- 
fits towards me. What can we render un- 
to the Lord, seeing he possesses all things 
and necdeth not the worship of men 
or angels to add to his glor}', for 
he is perfect in every sense of that 

But the king shall say unto them, inns- 
much as yehave administered to the necessi- 
ties of one of the least of these my brethren, 
ye have done it unto me. Hence I con- 
clude, we are to show our love to him by 
our conduct towards each other. It also 
brings to view the union or oneness, of 
Christ and his children, which is his bride. 
They twain shall be one flesh. They are 
his body, the branches of the vine, and he 
is their elder brother, their head, husband, 
prophet, priest, and king; yea, he is their 
life. 0, brethren, how thankful we should 
be, and how careful of each other's feelings. 
What great reasons we have to love God 

and one another. If ye love me, keep my 
commandments. But I have strayed from 
my experience or travels. 

About five years ago, my mind was im- 
pressed with the thought of publishing to 
the world the goodness of God: But I have 
been a rebellious creature, I tried to run a- 
way, like Jonah; I prayed the Lord to lay 
it on some one else, for 1 viewed any Chris- 
tian belter qualified. At last I desired to 
remain a few years, it appeared so impos- 
sible at present to discharge this duty ; it ap- 
peared that this request was granted, the 
burden in a measure removed; but, 0, what 
darkness followed, till 1 knew of a truth 
that the way of a transgressor is hard. 
The words to Peter, were applied to my 
soul: When thou art converted, strength- 
en thy brethren. And I can truly say, that 
I was compelled to op°n my mouth; and 
this was the text: Whatis truth? My heart 
was filled with this subject, and I thought 
I never would be disobedient any more. 
But often since then (under a sense of the 
importance of the work, my weakness 
and mv great responsibility,) have I desi- 
red, if it could be his will, that he would 
take me from this world of trouble: Not 
my will, but thine be done. So I set it 
down, that whoever professes no call ought 
not to preach; for who hath required it at 
his hands. 

I must come to a close for want of room. 
I would like to see brother R. M. New- 
port, brother Paxton, or some of the breth- 
ren, give their views on Isaiah, 45. 7: I 
form the light, and create darkness. The 
Bible informs me, that all things were cre- 
ated in six days, both in heaven and in 
earth and pronounced good; which proves 
that evil then existed. The tree of the 
knowledge of good and evil also proves 
the same, as well as the tree of life. Colos- 
sians, 1st, 20, proves the Lord lost nothing, 
and many other passages. It is self evident, 
as well as scriptural, that a fountain produ- 
ces after its kind; and God is good, and in 
him is no darkness at all. 

Brother Martin wishes to inform the 
brethren, that there was a mistake some 
how; that it was not the Sth chap, of 
John, but the 13th chap., from the 4th 
to the 15'h verse, respecting washing the 
disciples' feet, which he wished their 
views on. 

- Brethren, farewell. May the Lord lead 
all your minds into the truth, and give you 
all strength, and grace, to stand amidst all 
your trials; and that he may hold us all in 



his powerful hand, is I he prayer of your 
Unworthy brother. 



St. Helena Parish, Louisiana, > 
FeVy 13, 1840. \ 

It will he recollected, that in my let- 
ters, 4 volume, Nos. 8th and 14ih, I treat- 
ed upon the creature, and new crea- 
ture, of the scriptures. In a digression, 
I introduced the subject of the two wit- 
nesses and their deaths. I done so then, for 
fear i might never have another opportuni- 
ty. I now make it the subject of this let- 
ter, wishing still to be indulged in my man- 
ner of digressing. I am confident that the 
whole body is edified of itself in love, by 
the contributions which every joint sup- 
plielh; therefore, let no man refrain from 
proclaiming upon the house-top, that which 
Christ has revealed to him, in secret. We 
shall all know the strength of the Lord, 
in the same proportion, as we know 
our own weakness; both of which, ought 
to be felt bv any, who speak or wrile in 
his name. Expecting scrutiny, but a merci- 
ful criticise on my errors, I venture to con- 
tribute my part as a Joint, somewhat out of 

The Lord has indeed told us, that no man 
knoweth the day and hour of his coming: 
but this by no fair construction, forbids our 
knowing perhaps the year; especially when 
we are improvable for not knowing the 
"signs of the times." That the holy spir- 
it is not one of the two dying witnesses, 
as some suppose it, is clear from its having 
no body of its own, but it is said to enter 
the bodies of others. I know it is said to 
be a witness with the apostles, as another 
witness besides themselves, liut this was 
spoken by Christ to them, for their encour- 
agement; and consisted in proving, that 
their doctrine was from above, by miracles, 
&c. " Ye are my witnesses, fy so also is the 
Holy Ghost." We see in this passage, that 
the apostle themselves formed a plurality 
of witnesses, and therefore cannot be one of 
the tivo, before us. Now each of these 
has a body; and when dead, are said to be 
entered by the spirit of life, and at the 
the same time; which proves that the spir- 
it has no peculiar body of its own. Nei- 
ther do the apostles, and preachers, separate 
from the church, form one of these witness- 
es, as others have supposed. For their 
unity consists not as preachers, but as of 

the body of Christ, which is the church. 
A true witness is alight, by which we dis- 
cover the truth. God's witnesses are sure to 
he true ones. Of the church he says, she is 
the pillar and ground of the TRUTH. 1 
Tim. 3. 15. 

These witnesses, in order to profit the 
world, must be tangible; that is, they must 
be in such a shape as to be seen & heard, in 
order that their testimony may be received 
or plainly rejected. I have already proven, 
that the Old and New Testaments, form but 
the ONE word of God, see Isai. 8. 20. 
Now this ivurd I say is the other witness. 
These two witnesses are to wear sack-cloth 
for 1260 days (years) and prophesy in that 
condition. About the end of which time, 
the holy city is to be trodden under foot 42 
months, which comports precisely with 
the time that the witnesses lie dead, (3i 
years;) therefore must mean the same time. 
Their sackcloth must mean, not only, 
that some of the church's children are fet- 
tered in the wilds of the great mystery 
Babylon, (as I have already observed,) but 
that the true church is much pestered with 
the doctrines of Arminianism, (the very 
sinews of popery.) The reason is, not on- 
ly that we have some of these kind of falsa 
brethren crept in, but young Christian's 
heads, are slow in joining their hearts in 
believing. To believe with the head, 
and to believe with the heart, are two ve- 
ry different things. We have an instance 
of their difference in Acts, 8. 13 and 37. 
Romans, 10. 10. There is exactly as 
much difference between them, as between 
grace and works. This shall not be tho 
case after the revival of the witnesses. For 
the earth (Gentiles) shall help the woman, 
by drinking up the errors which the devil 
intended to diown her with; (I know this- 
is the case now, but then in a perfect de- 
gree.) For persecution does overtake the 
woman, and is not swallowed by the world. 
These witnesses are said to be "the two 
olive-trees & candlesticks, standing before 
the God of the earth." Here is a manifest 
reference to Zecharhih, clript. 4; which 
when we peruse we cannot help observing 
an intentional ambiguity, on the part of the 
angel, when he evaded direct answers to 
the pi ophet's questions. At last he said, 
"These are the two anointed ones, that 
stand by the Lord of the whole earth." 
This puts me in mind of our Lord's conduct 
towards the scribes, when they refused him 
upon the account of the place of hi.-* sup- 
posed nativity, (Gallilce,) in which they 

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affirmed no prophet was to arise. He 
told them not, that he was born where 
Micah declared he should be. All such 
passages admonish us to activity, deep hu- 
miliation and prayer. That we should arise 
from the dead, that Christ may give us 
light, (not life, for without this we could 
notarise. Eph. 5. 14.) 

That we may have our senses exercised, 
and so go on to perfection in the DOC- 
TRINE of Christ, leaving its principles, 
that is, quit your a, b, c's, and hurry on 
to reading, that you may understand the 
subject matter of your manual. How shock- 
ing it is to hear an a, b, c, Christian try- 
ing to spell: G — r — a — c — e, Works — 
W — o — r — k — s, Grace. Some may laugh 
at this, while they are gnashing their teeth 
in felt darkness. These reflections are not 
intended for all weak Christians, but read 
Heb. 5. 12, 13, 14, &c. We say "if God 
permit." But I am sure they are applica- 
ble to those who have learning, and time, 
ia make and calculate the many bales of 
cotton, or other carnal stuffs, to their advan- 
tage. Shame, shame: and sin, to such 
Christians. This is another digression. I 
hope if it be, it will answer for itself. 

Methinks I hear some saying, "Well, 
old Tom, we think we can gather some- 
thing out of your digression, not so very 
flattering to yourself. " Brethren, Hbank 
no man forhisflatlery. It has ruined me ma- 
ny times. Yea, I have been hurt by my own 
flattery; I wish it was out of the church, 
and out of world. But what is it ye have 
gathered? "Why, that you, being an ac- 
knowledged old sinner, and guilty of the 
most aggravated transgressions, should have 
the presumption lo attempt to explain, 
what, how, and all about the two wit- 
nesses. JVIy dear brethren, I answer, it is 
not in me. If God should instruct you, by 
such an one as me, his glorious grace is the 
more apparent. I should have a sneaking 
lie in my mouth, if I were not to say, I 
think myself to have some knowledge in 
God's word. But what is all this? 
«'Knowledge puffeth up." 0, that I pos- 
essed, what I hope, I am now following 
after; those heavenly, but unobtrusive gra- 
ces — patience, meekness, contentment, so- 
briety, &e. "Be sober." This exhortation 
in the script ure, is not so much opposed to 
drinking whiskey, as to inordinate affec- 
tion; eagerness, and anxiety in our pur- 
suits. Nevertheless, I sanction, and 
have adopted the rule of our dear breth- 
ren, W. JVlosclcy and P. Lewis, to drink 

none. And thanks to God, (I lie fl&fy 
my brethren,) I feel by experience, that I 
heve "escaped the corruptions that are in 
the world, through lust." This is a joy- 
ful state to be in; but for which I am not 
half thankful. "Whoever can receive 1 
this, let him receive it." Now since I am 
upon a ramble, and have stumbled it seems" 
upon a barrel of whiskey: it will detain! 
my return only a iittls longer, to give it a 
turn or two; and perhaps, it will roll a lit- 
tle out of our Christian path, lam going- 
to judge no man, in eating and drinking: 
but I wish every man to judge himself 
by the perfect law of liberty while he 
listens, with an internal ear, to the tes- 
timony of this law"s witness: hi$ awn con- 

m You, my brethren, who use alcohol, I ask 
you before et?r common Lord, how you 
get along? Do you think that you keep 1 
sober enough to thank God for every dram 
you take? Be certain, and cautious, how 
you answer it, and understand what it 
means. If you can answer yes, then 
I say, my brother, drink on, to the' 
glory of God. But I greatly fear, that 
for one of these sort ol drinkers, a hun- 
dred of a very different cast will be' 
found. I will tell what I have many times' 
seen. Where several professors were met, 
who, at other times, scarcely ever were' 
heard to speak of heavenly things, take 
three or four good pulls at the bottle, and 
their tongues become as supple as eels. 
Their conversation would be all upon re- 
ligion. Then for bringing up old dreamsj 
& if there happen to be present a truly god- 
ly person, perhaps several at the same time 
would appeal to him, to know his opinion 
of their validity. But if they should go a 
little further, & begin upon doctrinal points,- 
it is twenty to one if it takes not one or two 1 
ffghls, to sober them!! 

1 am willing to leave to any one's own 
reason, whether there be any affiance be- 
tween God's holy spirit, and the spirit 
of alcohol. I know we are to rejoice 
forevermore, but I don't think we need 
huve the spirit of whiskey to promote this- 
rejoicing. And now I will conclude this 
digression and the whiskey affair together, 
by one more turn of the barrel. There hap- 
pened to live an old Baptist in a settlement 
1 once lived in, who every other way was 
esteemed for his moral conduct; but whis- 
key he would drink. His exposure for 
this is my last heave.. Some of his friends 
and brethren being invited home with 



him, from an Association, the good old 
hospitable man, had prepared a good 
supper, and vvilh it some excellent whis- 
key. The guests eat and drank tem- 
perately enough, as we may suppose; af- 
ter which, in due form, deity was attended 
to. But the company not lying down im- 
mediately, kept up a conversation, which 
we will again suppose, was a religious one. 
However, in the meantime, the old man 
had so visited his bottle, that he was actually 
(drunk; this he might have been, without our 
ever knowing it, if he had slipt off to bed. 
This not being the case, when the company 
were about to retire he peremptorily for- 
bade, saying, they were about to break one 
of his most appointed rules. Surely, gen- 
tlemen, we ought and shall go to duty, be- 
fore we lie down. He got the books, went 
to the duty again, and thus in this intoxica- 
ted state, literally staggered into the holy 
of holies. What an offensive flavor, does 
such a dead fly send forth!! Finally, if 
there be a time for drinking and making 
merry, I cannot agree that it is at such a 
time as this, when God's judgments are be- 
gun on his own house. 

I now return and say, that if there is the 
appearance of obstrusity in the fourth chap. 
of Zechariah, yet by searching, we may 
gather every thing necessary for our under- 
standing of St. John's two witnesess, "The 
two anointed ones." The use of which 
we gather from verse the 12th, connected 
with verses 2nd and 3rd, where it will be 
seen they possessed a golden oil, which 
was communicated 'from themselves" in- 
to the bowl of the candlestick through 
their golden pipes. Thus we see that both I 
these witnesses (the word and church) > 
contribute to the glory of God's seven per- 
fections, or spirits, which are the same 
eyes, engraven upon our Lord Jesus 
Christ, called "the stone," and which we 
are to behold, in all our religious exercises. 
Sec chap. 3. 9. This is the true gospel, 
all the attributes of God look to Christ for 
our righteousness, sanctifieation,& redemp- 
tion. And God by him, removed all our 
iniquity in ONE day (upon the cross,) and 
so graciously mysterious was the transfer, 
that not only the prying rays of the sun 
were forbid to see the canceling act, but 
the angels themselves, had to wonder in 
ignorance. O, my brethren, what are we, 
that this glorious knowledge should be re- 
vealed in us? Verily, verily, because we 
are bone of his bone, and flesh of his flesh. 
But where is our oil, contributing to the 

glory of God? Veril)', it is the language of 
our hearts, crying <( nol unto us," not unto 
us, but to thee, 0, Lord, be the glory. Thi8 
same language, speak both the church and 
the word. 

Now what would either of these witnesses 
do without the other? How could the church 
with all hergraces (if she could have them) 
worship God without the knowledge which 
the scripture only affords? The scriptures 
are profitable only to the church, see 2 
Tim. 3. 16, 17. For the Babylonian church, 
it is a delusion of God's sending; and it be- 
lieves this lie, that they can help them- 
selves, and therefore are damned. The scrip- 
tures to them are a gin and a trap, that they 
may bow down their back always. For 
instance, such texts as these: ''Blessed are 
they that mourn, for they shall be comfort- 
ed." "Whose house are we, if we hold 
fast, &c. " As it regards the first, you can- 
not beat it into them, that the cause of their 
mourning is, that they are already blessed; 
and so of their hungering after righteous- 
ness. The comforting and fi I ling, is truly 
behind, but the blessing has gone be- 
fore. And so of the other. It does not 
read that we shall be his house if, &c. 
There can be no doubt, but what the Sama- 
ritans had seen the Jewish Bible, and the 
Lord told them they "worshipped they 
know not what." 

The time that the witnesses were to wear 
sackcloth, I have supposed to commence 
A. D. 666. My reason for this, was not, 
that there was no pope unlil that time, 
but that we do not find him (in history) in 
the plenitude of his power, until some 
time after that period. And as we 
find hfm struggling for it sometime be- 
fore that period, 1 have presumed it, 
and do assume it until there are better 
correspondents, for another date, than I 
have produced, Mr. Usher's account of 
time, from the creation of the world, is that 
by which all Christians are regulated. He 
was a man of great wisdom, and of such an 
one my context speaks: "Let him that 
hath understanding count the number of 
the beast: for it is the number of a man." 
And allho' Mr. Usher might have never 
dreamed of our making use of his calcula- 
tion for such a data, yet we may be certain 
that the number of the beast relates to 
time. For the wearing of the sackcloth 
is to be for a certain TIME. (1260 days.) 
Now the number 666 is not an arbitrary 
date, when we consider, that the influence 
of the beast is the sole cause of the witness- 



es wearing such apparel at all. Therefore, 
if wc consider, that there mu*t be a begin- 
ning as well as an en ling, to this sackcloth, 
is^seems clearest to infer, that the pope he- 
came arbiter, and began to exercise this 
power in the }'ear 665. The marks of the 
beast were two. Bo'h murks were not 
put upon the same. They were to he in 
the right hand, OR, in the forehead. Now 
the first I take to be money, and the other 
wisdom. So he that paid not the pope in 
money, was bound with all ingeiuousness 
and cunning to support his title and claim. 
Wait upon me, my dear brethren; it may 
"be (for it is all of grace) I, even I, may fur- 
nish hints that the next generation of 
Christians may rejoice in developing. I 
hope I am not running in vain; but I 
leave it all to the Lord. I shall now at- 
tend to the powers which the witnesses 
possessed, notwithstanding their sackcloth. 
"If any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth 
out of their mouth, and devoureth their 
enemies." It seems they have but one 
mouth, and this is the church's speaking 
kindly and gently, which coals consume the 
"wrath of our enemies, and so kill them. In 
this manner my brethren let us kill the 
whole of them; see Rom. 12. 20th and 21st. 
Again> "these have povver to shut heaven, 
that it rain not." "And have power over 
waters to turn to blood, and to smite the 
earth with all plagues as q/'/e/t as they 
toi/l." Thank God, they do not will it 
often. These powers are deposited in 
the church, influenced by the spirit and 
directed by the scripture. It was the mer- 
cy of God, that drowned Pharaoh and his 

ner. She becomes sorely grieved and vex- 
ed at the enormity of hamgression; she 
prays and travels for relief; none comes; 
matters get worse; she fears that she will 
he trodden under foot, (before the time;) 
her slate of excrement grows up to the 
Psalmist's, 119. 126: '-It is time for thee, 
Lord, to work; for they have made void 
thy law." Thus she not only gives her 
consent but inwardly pra^ s for his judg- 
ments. Then if it be for swearing, the land 
must mourn by drought or pestilence; if 
for violence, war; for Ihe waters are people, 
and they turn to blood, &e. All this is said 
to take place during their prophecy, 1260 
days (years. ) I said about the end" of this 
period their deaths were to take place. 
There appears to be four years difference 
between Mr. Usher's account of Christ's 
nativity,&the round number of 4000 years. 
Now it appears to me a providential cii- 
cumstmce. For if we cover the lime, 
while thewitnessesliedend, with this differ- 
ence, we arrive at the exactness of six 
months in completing our round number 
of 6,000 years for the labor of the church. 
There appears a small error in my printer, 
or me: I think it in him. I said, the witnes- 
ses' death consisted in the loss of influence, 
not confidence. When I said this, I had 
my eye upon the seven women who held 
the skirt of the church's husband. I can- 
not think they had ever any confidence in 
him to lose; but am sure he h .san influence 
which they much desire. It is not of his 
miraculous body they want to eat, but of 
his loaves; and therefore hold him fast. I 
do believe that there will none he called 
host, see Psalm, 136. 15. The text says, I Christians, after the spirit enters the dead 
"as often as they WILL." This will is the j bodies, but those who are so indeed; for I 
Will of Christ. Do any think that Peer's j find in ver. 13th, there will be a greatearth- 
wrath slew Annanias and Sapphira! We j quake, in which seven thousand men shall 
know better; for altho' some of the wrath of , die. This I take to be the seven women 

man shall praise God, yet it worketh not 
his righteousness. See Psalm, 76. 10 
With James, 1. 20th. Did Elijah shut the 
heaven from rain and consume the 102 
men at his own instance? 1 answer, God 
forbid. Did not Christ rebuke some of his 
disciples, for wishing to heat a village in 
the same way, by telling them: "They 
knew not what manner of spirit they were 
of." This all goes to show that when the 
two witnesses (which are also called proph- 
ets) are disposed to call for war, famine, pes- 
tilence, &c. that the impulse is from the in 

(churches with their different kinds of doc- 
trine) with their thousands. The death of 
these are figurative also. For it means 
only, that [hey shall let go their hold of 
OUR one man Their reproach follows. 
When the true version of the scriptures 
shall be set at nought, and of consequence, 
ihe true doctrine of the church disregard- 
ed, they are in a slate of death. Yet their 
bodies shall not be buried, that is, al- 
though the church shall be unheeded, 
she shall not become extinct; neither shall 
all the Bibles be burned, nor perverted. 

fluence and powerful spirit of God. 1 his They shall indeed lie in the street; that is, 
is manifested, not to the world, but to the not to be taken care of by (heir ene- 
church, some how in the following man-j mies; yet they, as Christ's body was, shall 



be preserved. '-For without ihese founda- 
tions" what could the righteous do? Their 
enemies being now free from righteousness, 
in every sense of the word, fell to rejoicing, 
giving gifts, &c. How error is tormented 
by the truth!! "I adjure thee, that thou 
torment us not." Well, their torments 
will be suspended a little while. There 
will be no lijiht shining into their 
darkness, to si j\y them that their deeds 
are evil. But no sooner shall the spir- 
it enter, than great fear shall possess 

And just here, oh Gentiles, ends your call- 
ing!!!!! The natural branches will be graf- 
ted into their own stock, for the Gentile 
fulness will be come. Thanks be to God 
Almighty, that I was born WHEN I was, 
and WHERE I was, The witnesses are said 
to be called up to heaven; thai is, to throw 
off their sackcloth, give plainer testimony, 
and be fully credited hy all God's children. 
There will neither any of her children be 
led away from her, nor any false brethren 
in her. And as the Jews had once to 
serve the devil's representative 70 years, 
so shall they have joy in believing 70 
years. This will be a proper eve to 
their juhilee and ours. But they have 
to fight the battle at Jerusalem. "For 
Judah shall fight there." At this great 
and decisive battle, it appears that all the 
great and powerful nations of the earth, es- 
pecially eastward of Jerusalem, shall come 
to fight against Judah; but he, like Morde- 
cai, being of the seed of the Jews, shall not 
be overcome, but shall surely conquer. Be 
it so, O, Lord Jesus, according lo thy will. 
Brethren, farewell, until I write a short- 
er supplement to the new creature. 



Chambers county, Alabama, > 
March 4,1840. $ 
Beloved Brethren of the Prim- 
itive ordek: I have been an observer 
of the many departures of the Baptists from 
original principles, for about twenty-five 
or six years; having been a member of the 
Baptist church ever since the first Lord's 
day in August, eighteen hundred and ten. 
When I first became a Baptist, they were 
of the same mind, they spoke the same 
thing, and in deed and in truth, they were all 
of a piece, a*nd each held the other's feelings 
sacred. But it is truly distressing to think 
of the change that has taken place. Brethren 

regardless of each other's feelings, persist in 
the support of the unscriplural institutions 
of the day, which things, not only bring di- 
visions in the churches, but in families and 
family connections. 

And when I think of the inconsisten- 
cies that are among (what are called mis- 
sionary Baptists, ) I am astonished. For we 
profess to believe the Old and New Testa- 
ment to be the word of God, and the only 
cor/ ect rule of faith and practice; and the 
practices of the institutionists are not 
known in the word of God. But the 
institutionists contend, that the benevolent 
institutions (so called) of the present day,, 
are in unison; but when we look over the 
articles of our faith, I see no possibility 
to reconcile the practice nor the principle 
of the religious of the present day with 
it. For we profess lo believe the doctrine 
of eternal and particular election, and 
the exertions used and the ideas advan- 
ced by missionary men come in contact 
with this part of our faith. Although 
they acknowledge this article to be a part 
of their faith, and as God's election is par- 
ticular and eternal, how is it that they are 
exerting themselves to save the heathen, 
when if election is particular and eternal, 
they are saved in Christ from before the 
foundation of the world. And the news of 
this salvation is good, & therefore is gsspel, 
which is good news; and good news is 
gospel. And it is only making known 
to God's elect, that they are saved through 
the merit of Christ before the world be- 

gan ; 

The fifth article of our faith is this: We 
believe that God's elect shall be called, re- 
generated, and sanctified by the Holy Ghost, 
and that the saints shall persevere in grace 
and never finally fall away. 

Now, brethren, when we hear the pitiful 
lamentations of some of the missionaries, 
that the state of the heathen is awful, and 
they are perishing for th<- gospel, and un- 
less the gospel is sent (o them they must 
be eternally lost, and the gospel can- 
not go unless ministers are sent, and 
they cannot go without money to help 
them go, and support them while there — 
Now if the money fails, the preacher fails; 
and if the preacher fails, no gospel; and if 
no gospel, no soul saved; and all for the 
want of money to give the start to the bu- 

Now, brethren, can these things and the 
5th article of the Baptist faith be reconciled 
together? I for one, cannot reconcile 



these things together. But, brethren, (lie 
wrongs are not all found among ihe mis- 
sionaries. For hear the language of the 
Saviour; When you are reviled, revile 
not again. And in searching the writings 
of my Primitive brethren, I find the mis- 
sionaries or instiiutionists are nick-named 
and called by different names. Brethren, 
you should not do so, neither should you be 
too sharp in your remarks; but be mild and 
gentle, and yet be faithful, and plain, and 
candid in every case. 

And, beloved brethren, here learn a les- 
son from the reproof of the Saviour, when 
his followers seemed to have their feelings 
aroused at the conduct of some towards the 
Saviour, and requested him to command fire 
to come down from heaven and consume 
those they saw noted wickedly towards 
their master. Jesus gently replied, you 
know not what manner of spirit you are 
of. Brethren, always try be governed by 
the spirit and word o r God, which is one; 
the meek and lamb-like spirit is what makes 
God's children shine as lights in the world. 
When Jesus was reviled, be reviled not 
again, but told all men their wrongs plainly. 
So should the Primitive Baptists do those 
that have wandered and left them, 1 know, 
brethren, we are accused of taking a strange 
course, and leaving ihe missionary Bap- 
tists; but it is a mistake, they have left 
us and gone in wrong paths. 

I will stop for this lime, brethren; al- 
though I write bad and spell bad, yet 
there is much before me; hut 1 cannot 
Write it now. Farewell, dear brethren, 


SATURDAY, MAY 23, 1840. 


No. G. 

Dearly beloved Brethren: For the further 
promotion of the pleasures arising out of this 
heavenly union, of which mention has been made 
jn my former letter, 1 would in an especial man- 
lier commend to your attention, this little paper 
which we have established at Tarborongh as a 
mediurn of correspondence. And if you find it 
still worthy of an existence, do not withhold from 
it the encouragement necessary to that effect. 
The printer is a gentleman of unblemished reputa- 
tion, and one whose moial deportment is worthy 
pf all commendation. He does not profess an ac- 

quaintance with regenerating grace, but his con- 
duct appears quite unexceptionable, and he has 
for a number of years been a warm friend of and a 
well wisher to the cause of the Kehukce Baptists; 
and theircause is common with the O. S. BapUsta 
throughout the Union. lie. is too honest to make 
a profession of religion, without an undoubted eyi'- 
denceof a change from nature to gracei Almigh- 
ty God, however, is able to effect that change, 
give to him a bright manifestation of it and quick- 
en him into spiritual life, this very year, or month, 
or day. And who knows the mind of the Lord, 
or who shall be his counsel-lor? My object in al-. 
ludingto Mr. Howard w^s principally to say, that 
if he is willing to continue taking on himself the 
labor of setting the types to our letters, and un» 
dergoing all the other necessary labor and expense 
of issuing the periodical in its present form, for. 
the small remuneration he receives, that we may 
well afford to bestow that compensation. He 
earns his money by actual labor, and like other 
laborers is worthy of his hire and should be P<U'U 
and considering the circumstances, I think those 
who receive the paper have the best end of the 

You will observe, then brethren, one and all, 
that here is a paper of our own— oyer which we 
have the control; and one whose columns are open 
to all the household of faith, as recognised under 
the denomination of Old School Baptists, who, 
wish to appear there, devoid of controversy with 
others of like preeious faith with themselves* 
Then brethren write often, write freely about all 
things connected with your profession, that tends 
to edification, encouragement, and union, in our 
ranks. Scruple not, to write on account of your 
incapability, as you may term it, supposing your- 
self deficient in style or diction. Fear not criti- 
cism here. For few, if any of us possess the quali- 
fication of critics, and fewer slill, I trust, the will 
to judge of a Christian, by his knowledge of gram- 
mar. Neither does the great length of a letter al- 
ways denote its worth. I have frequently been more 
strengthened, encouraged and built up, by the pe- 
rusal of some of your communications pot over a 
finger long, than I have by others filling columns; 
and 1 have no doubt the same can be said by oth- 
ers: Then come all, come each, come every one 
and give us your experience, and feelings in the 
practice of your profession, or any other informa- 
tion you may conceive to be acceptable to ttie 
brethren, and calculated to unite them in senti- 
ment, strengthen them in faith, md encourage l\\ein 
in love. Be up and doing while it |s day, for the 
night ooruelh when no man can yvoik. Bestir 
thee a little in the seivice of thy maker, before the 
sun is set, and the door shall be shut in the streets, 
and the sound of the grinding is low: or ere the 



silver cord be loosed, or tlie golden bowl be, hro- f 
ken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or 
the wheel broken at the cistern; for then shall the 
dust return to the earth as it was, and the spirit 
shall return unto God who gave iti 

Brother Lawrence, this one thing I would know 
of you; are the missionaries all dead!— have you 
sheathed your sword, or been gone ibis long time 
on some journey] You seem of late as silent as 
the grave, and almost as deaf to the wishes of 
your brethren, as was Baal to the cries of his 
prophets. ]f the enemy are yet in the field, and 
the soldiers of the cross as few and feeble as ever, 
then arouse thee, my brother and thou aged vete- 
ran of the cross, and assist them again to the 
mighty onset. Bring out old "long torn" and let 
tfoern have a peeler, and with thy crooked rams 
horn blow them another blast. 

How do ycu do, brother Temple? I am much 
pleased to hear from you again, — am glad your 
long silence is. broken and expect now to hear from 
you a little ofiener. Yon are mighty welcome to 
the use of our columns, and are certainly entitled 
to a full share of space there this year. I should 
just like to hear you preach again from this text, 
♦'Who is this that cometh up from the wilderness, 
leaning upon her beloved." 1 shall be apt to re- 
member that sermon. It was about your first and 
best to mei 

Brother llorer, your name alw'ays reminds me 
of the king of the forest. And they say, "when 
the lion roars, all the beasts of the forest tremble." 
What are the last accounts of "Mr, Sneak," that 
celebrated hotspur of the money missionary tribe] 
As perhaps all the "sneaks" are not yet frighten- 
ed away, suppose you give another roar, and still 
another; that all such beasts of the forest may 
finally be scattered. 

Brethren Beckham, Burkhalter, Botters, and 
others whpse names from time to time appear in 
the Primitive, we are much revived to hear from 
you; and like Paul on a former occasion, we 
thank God and take courage, 

Brother Sasser and brother Poole, your letters 
strike a tender cord and make our hearts vibrate 
with emotions of love and sweet fellowship. A 
few words, fitly spoken are like clusters of choice 
grapes to, a thirsty soul. 

Brother Moseley, 1 wish you would write again 
on the subject of our duty towards our preachers; 
and give us line upon line and precept upon pre- 
cept, on that head. There is much room for im- 
provement in that particular. And we should not 
let the extravagance and religious traffic of others, 
check the charity and true benevolence of our own 
hearts. We shall have a treat no doubt when 
Mr. Huntingdon on universal charity appears, and 
gives us a further expose of the pnffed and pom- 

pous character, of Armininnism, as sustained by 
the many fashionable religionists of the present, 
and some of the past ages. 

Finally, brethren farewell, for the present. My 
prayer to God for spiritual Israel is, that they may 
be saved from discord and disunion — from hard 
thoughts and hflrt feelings — from sarcasm, from 
bitterness, from crimination and recrimination, 
Let us all endeavor to be at peace among our- 
selves and maintain "The unity of the, spirit in 
the bond of peace," "Let brotherly love con- 
tinue." And may the very God of peace and uni- 
ty rest and abide with you all. 

I subjoin a few verses as a kind of synopsis of 
our faith, touching the union between Christ and, 
his people. Ailievr. C. B. IIJl&SELLi 

'.' 'Twjxt Jesus and the chosen race 
Subsists a bond of sovereign grace, 
That hell with its infernal train., 
Shall ne'er dissolve or rend in twain. 

This sacred bond shall never break, 
Though earth should to her centre shake; 
Best, doubling saint, assured of this, 
For God has pledged hia holiness. 

He swore but once, the deed was done, 
' Twas settled by the great Three-One; 
Christ was appointed to redeem 
All that the Father lov'd in him. 

Mail sacred union, firm and strong, 
How great the grace, how sweet the song, 
That rebel worms should ever be 
One with incarnate Deityi 

One in the tomh, one when he rose. 
One when he iriumphM o'er his foes; 
One when in heaven he took his seat, 
V\ bile seraph's sung all hell's defeat, 

This sacred tie forbids their fears, 
For all he is or has, is theirs; 
With him, their head, they stand or fall, 
Their life, their surety, and their all." 


North Carolina, Buncombe county, 
March 19th, 1840. 

Dear brethren of the primttivi 
baptist rule anu ORDEiti I have been, 
looking and wondering what is the reason, 
we have received no papers since the 25th 
of January. If the work is stopped, I think; 
you ought to let us know it; but I still hope 
in the Lord it is, not stopped altogether, yet 
I have always been fearful that something 
would take place to hinder the progress qf 
the glorious work of our papers, ever since 
1 received them; sensibly knowing it is the 
worst enemy to priestrcn.ft that ever has 
taken place in this age of the world. And if 
the devil and his friends the missionaries, 
& their fence-straddlers can invent any way 
that is in the power of men, and deyjls [q 



do, it will be stopped yet. But one thing; 
gives me comfort, in the midst of my fears 
and troubles; that is, 1 know God is kin* in 

)utof ihe pit, and locusts came out of the 
smoke and covered the land; and they had 
faces like women, and so forth; and they 

Zion, and the victory is his, an i it is not in had tails and slings in their tails, and they 
the power of men, nor ail the devils in tho | had power to hurl men. Mind, their pow- 
bottomless pit, to stop ihe work of God er was in their tails to hurt men. Now 1 
when he pleases to carry it on. But it may < believe the stone that fell was popery, and 
be possible, that this may be the time that liberty of conscience took place. Now 
we may have to suffer for our disobedience, J every man sils under his own fig tree 
asfhe people did in days of old; for the en- 1 and none dare make him afraid. The 

emy of God and man is now trying to 
force us to receive their mark in our fore- 
heads and in our hand, and the number of 
his name; and they do not intend to let us 
have the privilege of buj ing nor selling. 
unless we go with them in their hellish de- 
Dear brethren, read the thirteenth chap'er 

law supports every man in his own way 

of worship Now here come the locusts, 
every man wants to be greatest, and to be 
more than what is written of man. So here 
comes the second beast out cf the earth, I 
mean the missionary with his lamb-like 
horns, and speaking with his dragon voice, 
and compelling the people to worship the 
of Revelation &. study well in^o it, and see J image of the first bea^t, and to cause all 
what priestcraft has done? h would take i both small and great, rich and poor, bond 

a sheet of paper larger than mv table to 
give you my views on it. 1 will only re- 
mark and say, the in irk of the beast in the 
forehead has reference to sprinkling bap-" 
lism; the mark of the beast in the hand I 
believe to be all those lying books, tracts, 
and such like; the number of his name I be- 
lieve to be such as are not to be found in 
the Book of God for Christians to go by. 
The last verse of the 13th chapter of Rev- 
elation reads as follows: Mere is wisdom. 
Let him that hath understanding count the 
number of the beast: for it is the number 

and free, to receive the mark. Yes, even 
negroes and children have their names en- 
tered down on their list. What is all this, 
but receiving the mark of the beast? 

Now, brethren, read the 14th chapter, & 
hear what John the servant of God says, 
concerning those people that receive the 
m uk of the beast. He says: Whosoever 
receive the mark of the beast in the fore- 
head, or in the hand, or even the number 
of his name, shall drink of the wine of ihe 
wrath of God. Yes, indeed, here is wis- 
dom to see how many legions of devils 

of a man; and his number is six hudred ' have ever been trj ing to put their traditions 
three score and six. Now, brethren, this on a level with the commandments of God; 
is an even number, which shows the work and by those means they have power to 
of man, not God's; for God's work i* odd, | torment the righteous people, by reason of 
not even; because his equal is neither in j the stings that is in their tails. Only take 
heaven nor in earth; therefore, the beast ' notice at their lying tales that they tell to 
that John spoke of was not of God, but of the people to deceive them. Well it may 
the devil; and the heads and horns denote j be said, slings in their (ails, lying, sinful 
power, &. the different kingdoms and islands j tales; wiien men get to believe them, it is 
that he bore rule over. And after he had I a sling indeed, for men to be stung with, 
gotten law power, he then changed : A lie is a dreadful sling indeed, and a lie is 
times; he placed Christmas twelve days their tale. 

back, and as ihe people had given him all J So I conclude and say with Moses, the 
earthly power, he then forced them into man of God, the price of a dog and the 

measures, whelherthey liked them or not. 
And all instruments of writings that were 
notsigued according to the time appointed 
by himself, was not recoverable by law. 
And except you gave your children his 
mark in the forehead and in the hand, 
when they became men and women they 
were not allowed their oath; therefore they 
were not allowed the privilege of buying 
nor selling. 

Now recollect, John saw a star fall, ami 
the botlomess pit opened; & a smoke came 

lire of a whore is abomination with 
God — and the false church is the whore, 
and the false teacher is the dog. So both 
is abomination to God and all good men. 

Dear brethren, we the little handful of 
people in Buncombe, that are cast off by the 
societies of men and devils, are longing to 
hear from you, who are the highly favored 
of the Lord. So I close and say, may the 
blessings of God ever attend you, world 
without end. Amen. 





South Carolina, Fairfield (lis. ~> 
March 4/1/', 1840. 5 
Dear brt.thp.en Editors: As I am 
nn old man and have no learning at all, 1 
blush at the thought of writing for the pub- 
lic. I only want to say, that your Primi- 
tive paper is doing sonic good in this place. 
1 love the doctrine which they contain 
About fair months past I received one 
of them, which gladdened my old sorrow- 
ful heart. It seemed a messenger to me, 
as if come to se! me free from the false doc 
trines of the day; for I was afraid 1 should 
leave the world, being old, inundated with 
delusion. The Arminian B ipli-ts, (oh, that 
they would take to themselves some other 
title than that of Baptist 1 ',) with their wolf- 
ish missionaries and money hunters, are 
plenty here; but 1 think the Primitive pa 
per, with sound of truth makes them trem- 
ble to the centre; and I think when money 
fails them they will take the ague and die, 
or fly to some warm climate. St x p the cir- 
culation of money, and preaching stops 
with them. 

1 hive been trying to preach the gospel 
thirty years; twenty-six ye rsof that I had 
the pastoral care of one church, viz: Twen- 
ty five mile Creek, in the Charleston Asso- 
ciation. But the people called Baptists! 
now, have not the complexion they had 
thirty years ago. Your papers have en- 
couraged and strengthened me so, that I 
thought of dropping you a few lines of poet- 
ry: and when I was in the spirit 1 sat down 
on the doorstep and on my knee I drew the 
following lines, and in order to guide me, 
tilled them, 

Which may be sung to L. M, 

Primitive paper! speed your way, 

The truth of scripture to display; 

Lift your sweet voice and holdly tell, 

That Jesus has done all tilings well. 

Primitive paper! roll your sound, 
It echoes through Immanuel's ground; 
You bring to view the wish'd for spring 
Make every bird to chirp and sing. 

Primitive paper! soldier-like, 
Draw your sword your foes to smite; 
Be well equipt, put armor on, 
But don't forget the battering ram. 

Primitive paper! the ram's head 
Will strike your foes with fear and dread; 
Then mount it high and sling it. well, 
And batter down the gates of hell. 

Primitive paper! hasten on, 

You preach free grace where'er you come; 

Your doctrine is divinely true, 
Free grace alone you bring to view. 

Primitive paper! you can say, 
Armiaianism must give way; 
Free grace doctrine it must stand, 
Arminiauism quit the landr 

Primitive paper! here's my hand, 
I hail you welco ne to our land; 
Though half breed children fret and roam, 
Yet we care not for all their foam. 

Primitive paper! the love of God 
\ ou show to us from his sweet, word; 
That grace of love to chosen man, 
Was fix'd ou him ere time began. 

Primitive paper! never fear, 
True believers wish you here; 
Electiog'grace they freely own, 
Given to them in Christ the Son. 

Primitive paper! cheering sound 
To pull the devil's kingdom down; 
And when I look with wishful eyes, 
1 see my Saviour's kingdom rise. 

Primitive paper! haste away, 
Cut short the hours of your delay; 
Add to your speed some flying wiugR, 
Electing grace, to us it brings. 

Primitive paper! fare you well, 
And when I write to you I'll tell, 
That the sweet truth which you, impart, 
Like cords it draws about my heart. 

To every one who wish to know, 
Who wrote these lines we bring to view, 
'Tis Asa Bell, the illiterate man, 
lie holds his pen in his right hand. 

No more s-t present, but I rem tin a friend 
and brother to the Old School Baptists. 
Yours in gospel bonds. 

SJSJl BELL,Sen'r. 

TO EDITORS primitive baptist. 

JMacon, Bibb county, Georgia, } 
February 23d, 1840. $ 

Dear brethren Editors: May grace, 
mercy and peace he multiplied in each and 
every one of your hearts, by the bles.-ed 
influence of our Lord and Saviour Jesus 
Christ, who always abounds in love to 
them that put their trust in him. 

Now, brethren, what a blessed thin«- it 
is to meditate on the goodness of God, 
even in looking back on the past part of 
our lives, when we were engaged in the 
lusts of the eye. and the lusts of the flesh, 
and the pride of life, serving of sin and sa- 
tan, going on heedless and regardless of 
the consequence of sin; even not knowing 
the dangers we were exposed to, by reason 
of being dead in trespasses and sin, blind 
by nature and the allurements of this world, 
trampling the mercies and goodness of God 

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p.s it were under our unhallowed foot. But 
glory and honor be given in the highest to 
Sin all-wise and all-seeing blessed Saviour, 
who ruleth all things after the council of 
his own will, who interposed in his own 
good time in our behalf, and made us to 
i'eel and know that vye were vile sinners 
both by nature and practice. And that if 
we were not changed from that vile and 
wicked course, and become meek and low- 
ly followers of the blessed Lamb of God, 
who came into this world and suffered for 
them, was taken by wicked men and cru- 
cified for them, was buried and rose the 
third day on their account, and at list as- 
cended up to heaven at the right hand of 
the Father to make intercession for us. 

Now, breihren, we know God was not 
under any obligation to us as transgressors 
of his holy law; and as we were under the 
curse of that law, we were entirely help- 
less in and of ourselves considered, being 
strangers from the commonwealth of Isra- 
el, without hope and without God in the 
world. Alienated from the love of God, 
and strangers to the covenant of grace, bid 
it were, in obscure darkness. But ever 
and adored be the blessed goodness of an 
all-wise Redeemer, in opening up a way 
through the death and suffering of his hies- 
sed Son Jesus Christ, in making an atone- 
jnenl for his dear children who were given 

putting their trust in an arm of flesh, in- 
stead of relying on the blessed word and 
goodness of God — going about establishing 
societies under different names, but cloak- 
ing them all under the name of religion. 
And 1 for one cannot find in the blessed 
Book, which we call the holy scriptures of 
divine truth, one single passage therein to 
justify them for thus doing; but ma- 
ny pissages pointedly and awfully against 
them, and more especially against those 
called shepherds, I suppose what we call 
preachers in this our day. For instance, 
such as — wo be to the shepherds that do 
fee 1 themselves; should not the shepherds 
feed the flock? That is, should not the 
preachers feed the lambs or church of 
Christ here on earth, instead of starving 
them with the husks of dead morality, not 
giving them the true word of life as they 
have been taught it by the holy spirit. 
And further, as 1 live, saith the Lord God, 
surely because my flock became a prey, and 
mv fljck became meat to every beast of the 
field, because there was no shepherd, nei- 
ther did my shepherds search for my 
flock. But the shepherds fed themselves, 
and fed not my flock; therefore, ye shep- 
herds, hear the word of the Lord: thus 
saith the Lord God, Behold I am against 
the shepherds, and I will require my flock 
at their hand, and cause them to cease 

to the Son by the Father in his covenant of from feeding the flock; neither shall the 
love before the world was; anil in his own shepherds feed themselves any more, 
time visits their benighted souls with the Which I suppose would very well apply to 
quickening influence of his holy spirit, and those preachers in this our day, going to Si 

{.her. applies the forgiveness of their sins to 
them through Jesus, the only Saviour of 
sinners. For which he then blots out all 
pf their transgressions, and adopts them as 
it were into his holy family; for which 

fro through the country deceiving the peo- 
ple telling them that this, that, and the oth* 
er society must be supported, calling them 
after the name of the Lord; I suppose call- 
ing them after that name to take away their 

they are now made to love the things that reproach, but at the same time to get the 
they once hated, and hate the things that j people's money to put in their pockets to 
Ihey once loved. In short, they are now j feed -themselves, and starving the flock of 
niade new creatures, as it were, changed Christ. And the blessed word still goes 
from nature to grace, from serving sin to I on and says, they, meaning the flock, shall 
serving God and true holiness. As such, | no more be a prey to the heathen. I sup 

they have no power of themselves to enact 
one good deed, or to think one good 
thought, nor to do any good whatever, be- 
fore the holy influence of God's blessed 
spirit is applied to their dead hearts to re- 
instate them in God's favor, no more than 
a dead corpse could reinstate itself to life, 
and become a living body again. 

But notwithstanding all this, there are 

pose that is, God's children shall not be 
reproached on the account of the heathen 
any more; but that they shall be rid of 
those preachers that are reproaching them 
for their earnings, that they ought to have 
to support themselves and families, instead 
of giving it to them to support them in 
their idleness. 

Bear brethren of (he Old Primitive faith, 

men in this our day that have sought out Met us try to take encouragement from the 
many witty inventions, as said in holy following blessed promises: But they shall 
writ; sa y' n g> ^° thus and so, and live — [dwell safely, and none shall make them 



afraid. And I will, says the blessed word 
bf ihe Lord, raise up for them a plant of 
renown, and they shall— hot may, but in 
the positive--shall be no more consumed 
with hunger iri the land: neither bear the 
shame of the heathen any more. Perhaps 
meaning for the sake of filthy lucre any 
more. But still <goes on encouraging to 
the dear children of God, that put their 
entire trust and dependence in him. They 
shall know that I am the Lord their God, 
and am with them* and that they even the 
house of Israel, are my people, sail h the 
Lord God, and ye my flock, the fiock of 
my pasture; 

Jf any of the brethren wish to see the 
Scripture that I have mostly made use of, 
they can find it in the 34th chapter of Eze- 

Dear brethren^ I must come to a dose 
by requesting all of your sincere and fer- 
vent prayers to Almighty God in behalf 
Of bleedings drooping Zion, for myself and 
family, and especially for the little church 
in Macon, so much despised. Now may 
the holy spirit of God be with you all. 



Tennessee^ Carroll county,} 
March 12/A1840. $ 

Dear and well beloved Brethren 
In Christ: In fulfilment of a duty incum- 
bent on me to write and send the money for 
the undernamed subscribers, and more par- 
ticularly to redeem my promise. In my 
first, I staled I would give a minute detail 
of the many barriers, that have been 
thrown in the way in order to try to retard 
the progress of the Primitive Baptist faith, 
or that of the apostles; for I believe it is 
all one. In a word, that has led to the se- 

Brethren* fear not; We are told that Is- 
rael shall be saved in the Lord, with an 
everlasting salvation: Ye shall not be asha- 
med nor confounded, world without end. 
Isa. 45. 17. But, brethren, to do as I prom- 
ised, 1 would have to commence buck in the 
year 1833, and the limits of a single sheet of 
paper would not so much as give an out- 
line; so I will dispense with it, and give you 
a few of my thoughts on things, as they may 
occur to my mind. Suffice it to say, we are a 
mixed np set of people, some open commu- 
nionists, some close, some conditionists,and 
some for having it God's way by grace. O, 

ye conditionists, look at Paul's letter to the 
Ephesians, and see if you can find condi- 
tions there, or even in the Testament. So 
soon as a child is born it will cry for suste- 
nance; will God give it a stone — condition- 
al salvation? 

And we have some who believe Christ's 
people were chosen in him from or before 
the foundation of the world, and some say 
God does consult man's free agency before 
he can be initiated into the church of the 
first born. Wonderful indeed, sir; where' 
do you find your doctrine? in your theo* 
logical schools, or in your periodicals? If 
in the Bible, turn down a leaf. Christ 
says: For I know this, that after my de- 
parture shall grievous wolves enter iri 
among you, not sparing the flock; also, of 
your ownselves shall men arise, speaking 
perverse things, to draw away disciples 
after them. Acts, 20. 29 and 30lh. He 
also states in another place: If any say* lo, 
here is Christ; or, lo, there he isj believe 
him not, &c. 

Brethren, God's people for the most part 

are in Eg\ ptiau darkness; a darkness that 

i may be felt by any of spiritual Israel. But 

j to such as are stupified with the drugs and 

| enchantments of ecclesiastical jugglers, ev- 

jery thing appears to be convulsed to the 

j centre, from Dan to Barsheba. Not that 

the cause of Christ is of none effect, but to 

show forth his mighty deliverance of his 

loving bride, to wit, his church, his ran* 

somed people, the redeemed of the Most 


Dear brethren, every thing appears to 
be on the road to despotism. As Europe 
has demonstrated it in the papal hierarchy, 
so will our own country demonstrate it in 
a few more years. The people will say, 
what must we do? I recommend you to 
the good old admonition, COME OUT 

I must return to my subject. We have 
a people in New Hope church, (this being 
the church that I have withdrawn from, on 
account of the isms,) and have some mem- 
bers who say they are not of the modern 
missions, but fight for if. I will give you. 
their own words; We have no fellowship, 
for the institutions of the day, but we can- 
not declare non-fellowship to, the mission 
brethren. Also, they claim to be Primi- 
tive Baptists, they profess to love the Oldi 
School Baptists, and force something un-» 
known to the old Book on the public re- 
cords of the church; did directly declare 
non-fellowship lo brethren of their own 



church, the pastor, ami to the adjoining 
Associations, knowing they have not had 
fellowship in some lime with the isms 
and those holding lo them. 

Brethren, it needs no comment. I 
want one word with God's ministers, 
the Primitive, and I will come to a close. 
You that are placed on the walls of Zion, 
remember you are Christ's sentinels, placed 
there not only to feed, but to guard 
the fold. Dear and well beloved breth- 
ren, be at your post; if you see the enemy 
approaching, sound the alarm, although 
some may try to lull us to sleep, by telling 
us if it is not of the Lord it will fall lo the 
ground. There is policy in war, and that 
policy is to keep us from exposing their 
unscriptural plans until they should gain 
the ascendancy; and then they will drive 
us like sheep to the slaughter. So, breth- 
ren, be at your post. Tell to Israel her 
sins, and to Jacob his transgressions; right- 
ly dividing the word of truth, and giving 
each a portion of meat in due season; but 
do not give the children's bread to dogs. 

Brethren, seeing so many able writers, 
who are able to withstand the enemy; and 
seeing so many letters behind the dales. I 
feel to give it up to my brethren for fear 
1 should do the cause an injur y ; and this 
is of moie value than all the inventions of 
men though witty; or all their lucrative 
institutions, though glittering with gold. 
We, a little handful, desire the prayers 
of the Primitive brethren. 

Brethren, if you can make sense of my 
detached piece, receive it; and if not, throw 
it with the balance of rubbish. I had lo sup- 
press my ideas so much that I doubt you 
will not understand what was hinted at. 
Your brother in tribulation. 



Georgia, Jones county, ~) 
Feb. Slh, IS 40. 5 
Brethren Editors: As it is needful 
forme to write on for the Primitive Baptist 
for myself and others, and having no sub- 
ject to write on except it be the teach- 
ings of the Lord, I shall now by his 
help try to speak to you through this com- 
munication, a few things from a portion of 
the word found recorded in 6th ch. of John, 
45th v: "And they shall all be taught of 
God. Every man therefore that hath heard 
and hath learned of the Father, cotneth 
unto me," 

F expect lo say hut little, and what quota- 
tions I may make from the word, I expect 
to make without reference to chapter or 
verse, and without examining the same. 
hi the above it is said', they shall all be 
taught of the Lord. The word taught, or 
teach, means to instruct. We should re- 
collect, that mankind by nature are totally 
depraved; (hey have wandered far from 
the pathway of rectitude, and are prone 
to go wrong as the sparks are to fly up- 
wards. He has no will to no right, and 
has no more ability than will, in and of him- 
self considered. Then it appears, that it 
is indispensably necessary that they should 
be taught, taught by the spirit of Almightv 
God that they are sinners, vile wretched 
& undone sinners; ruined sinners, lost sin- 
ners, contaminated throughout; no sound- 
ness in them, their heart a fountain of cor- 
ruption and desperately wicked, and if left 
to themselves undone for ever; (this the 
spirit teaches, by communicating life& light 
to the soul;) they are wandering in I he 
waste howling wilderness of sin, like old 
Jacob, whom the Lord found soino- risiht 
away from him — he took him, he led him 
about, and instructed him, &c. 

The Lord has said, I will bringtbe blind 
by a way they have not known, and lead 
them in paths they have not trod. All this 
to the soul, he flies' to the law of God but 
finds no refuge there; the law pronounces 
its curses on him from every hand. Then 
every man therefore that hath heard and 
learned of the Father, cometh to me, 
(Christ.) Yes, they come, & come with full 
purpose of heart too, and take shelter under 
his balm}' wings, or in the cleft of the rock 
of ages, who is a hiding place from the 
wind, a covert from the tempest, as rivers 
of water in a dry place, as the shadow of 
a great rock in a weary land. The soul 
in Christ finds a reconciled God, who is to 
him the chief among ten thousand and al- 
together lovely. 

This teaching by the work of the spi- 
tit the apostle Paul seems to know 
something about, and which he places in 
contradistinction from all human learning; 
for he says, the natural man receives not 
of the things of the Spirit of God; and why? 
became they are foolishness lo him. And 
the preaching of the cross is to them that 
perish foolishness, and why? because the 
world by wisdom knows not God; and 
it pleased God by the foolishness of preach- 
ing lo save them that believe. For while 
the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks 



seek after wisdom, Christ is preached to 
the former a stumbling block, and to the 
latter foolishness; but unto all who believe, 
Christ is revealed as the power and wis- 
dom of God. And further, the apostlesays, 
the things that I delivered unto (or gos- 
pel I preach to) you, I received notof man, 
neither was I taught it, but by the revela- 
tion of Jesus Christ. 

The apostle Paul was a learned man, as 
he appears to have been taught in all the 
rudiments of learning that were in his day 
and nation; and if it would have had any in- 
fluence on mankind, to have- changed them 
from nature, &c. we make no doubt but 
what he and also the rest of the apostles 
would have recommended it to the minister 
to be well informed in all the literature of 
the day. But we have nothing of this sort 
from them. Think not that I am opposed 
to learning. No, I think it a good thing 
in its place; (but never say, a man cannot 
preach without it, and that effectually too;) 
when what he says more generally comes 
from the heart, and it is aptcr to reach the 
heart. For hath not God chosen the fool- 
ish things of the world to confound the 
mighty and wise; and base things, and 
things that are despised, yea, and things 
that are not, to bring to nought things that 
are. JVly sheet is full, so farewell. 


Limestone county, ./Ra. } 
April 1st, 1840. S 
Dear Brethren: This is to acknowl- 
edge the receipt of three copies of your 
paper. You will please continue to send 
them till ordered to stop. I delight in 
reading your paper, because I believe it 
contains the truth. I am nearly surround- 
ed with missionaries on ever}' hand, Bap- 
lists, Methodists, and Presbyterians. It is 
seldom we have any other sort of preach- 
ing, only when I get your paper; then it is 
I get a feast. I am no writer, I will there- 
fore conclude by subscribing myself, yours 
in the best of love. 




North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Willi amnion, 
R. M. G. Moore, Germanton. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washingtoni James Sou- 
iherland, Warrenlon. Charles Mason, Boxboo'r. 
James Wilder, Anderson's Store. Benj. Bynum, 
Speight's Bridge. H. Avera, Averasboro' '. J, H, 
Keneday, Chalk Level. Burwell Temple, Wake to. 

Geo. w. McNeely, Lealcsville. Win. H. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, Smit}rfic\d. 
James II. Sasser, Waynesboro'. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B. Bennett, Ileathvitle. Alfred El- 
lis, Strabane, Cor's Canaday, Cravensville, Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creeki J. Lamb, Camden 
C.H. A.' B. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 
ke'rson, West Point". Isaac Alderman, Moore's Creeki 
James Miller, Milton Park. 

South Carolina. — Wm. Hardy, Saluda Ylillt 
James Hembree, Sen. Anderson C. H. L'harlcs 
Carter, Cambridge. B, Lawrence, Effingham, 
James Burris, Sen Bold Spring. William S. 
Shaw, Bock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackville. An- 
drew Westmoreland, Cushvi/le. James J. Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Branch. Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers, CrowsviWc, Marshal Mc- 
Graw, Brown's. John L. Simpson, Cook/tarn's. 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDonough. John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P, M. Cal- 
houn, Knoxville. R. Reese, Eulonton. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than N T eel, James Hollingsworth and Stephen 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bowdoin,.<M«j>s!v7/e. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upatoie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. John Gayden^ra/jMn. P. 
II. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, Thon- 
as ton. William Bowde'n, Union galley. Ezra Mc- 
Crary, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. John Lassetler, Vernon. B.Va.ce.Van Wert. 
L. Peacock, Cassville, V. D.Whatley, Barnesville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, Mount. Mome. 
Elias O. Hawthorn, Rainlridgi-. J. G.Wintring- 
ham, Florence. William Mi Amos, GreenviWe. 
Randolph Arnold, Latimer's Store. Thomas J. 
Bazemore, Clinton. Jodah Stovall, AquiWa. G. 
P.Cannon, Cu\\oden<nlle. Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. McFlvy, Attapulgus. Furna Ivey, 
MilledgeviUe. Wm. Garrett, Cotton River. Jesse 
Moore, George Herndon and John Hardie, Irwin- 
ton. Leonard Pratt, Whitesville. Edward Jones, 
Decatur. Israel Hendon, Shilo. Robert B.Mann, 
Chesnut Grove. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
John Lawhon, Chenuba. John Herington, Wel- 
born's Mills, James P. Ellis, PineviWe, F. Hag- 
gard, -2/Aeis. H. Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Vulley. Josiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
O'Neel, Fowlton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro', 
J.B.Morgan 8c. B,P,ll<mse, Friendship, Sam'l wil- 
liams, Fair P lay, John Wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hootensville. R, S. Hamrick, Carrollton. 
David Smith, Coo/ Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, B\ake]y, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
TarvcrsviWe, John Stroud, KendaW. James Scar- 
borough, Statesborcugh. Young T. Standifer, 
Mulberry Grove, Robert R, Thompson, Cenlre- 
ville. Young T. Standifer, Mulberry Grove. Ja- 
red Johnson, Troupville. Kindred Braswell, 
Duncansville. Edmund S. Chambless, Stallings 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough. Edmund 
Dumas, JohnstonviWe. David Rowell, Jr. Groo 
versviUe. Joel Colley, Covington, Benjamin C. 
Burns, ViWa Bicca, David Jones, Traveller's Best. 

Alabama. — L.B. Moseley, Cahawba. A. Kea- 



ton, McConico. Jolin Blacksto'ne, La Fayette. W. 
\v. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Danebl's 
Prairie. Wm. vv. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'l 
Gafford, Greenville. Samuel MoOre, Snow Hill. 
John GL Walker, Milton. Henry Williams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron, .lames 
Daniel, Claiborne, Elias Daniel, Church Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johnston, Lcighton. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves' Ferry-, 
William Talley, Mount Moriuh, Graddy Her. 
ring, 'Clayton. G, vv. Jeter, Pint Lata, Samuel 
Ct Johnson, Pliasant Grove. Wnv.Crutcher,//tmr's'- 
villc, \\ m. Hi Cook and H'y Petty, Pichehsvilfe. 
Seaborn Hamrick. Plcmtersville. William Mel^ 
ton, Blnj} Fort. James S. Morgan, Dayton. Win. 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus Daniel, Jamcston, An- 
derson w. Bullard, Tusgegee. Frederick Hines- 
Gaslon, Z.Johns, Tiara, Eli McDonald, Pairisville. 
Wm. Powell, YoungsviWe-. John Brown, Wueooea, 
Silas Monk, Horse Shoe Bend, It. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville. David Treadvvell 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory. Sam'l T.Ovven, 
Argus, Joseph H.Holloway, Ylizle Green. Luke 
R ■, Simmons, Troy. Jesse Lee, Farmersville, 
W illiam S. Armstrong, Louitville. Mark Porter, 
Demopolis, Henry Adams, Mount Willing. Joel 
H'i Chambless, Lowsvilk. Elliot Thomas, Wil- 
liamston. F; Pickett, China Grove, James Grum- 
bles, tientoh. John M. Pearson, BadtviWe. W. 
J. Sorelle, Weturnpka;' John D. Hoke-, Jackson- 
ville. Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, Soukeehatchie. James Searcy, Irwinton. 
Hazael Liltlefield, Ten Islands. John w. Pellum) 
FranhMn, Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D< Cooper, Wi\- 
\iamston-. John Harrell, Missouri. James Ki 
Jacks, Elilon-, Henry Milliard, BeWville. John 
A. Miller, James Mays and James M-Creless, 
Ockfuskee. Durham Kelly, Alexandria, Josiah 
M. Lauderdale, Athens, William Thomas, Pros- 
pect Ridge. John Bishop, Jun'r. Crockcttsvillc. 
James Gray, Cuseta. Thomas L. Roberts, Mon~ 
roeville. Morgan Howard, Gentreville. 

Tennessee. — A. V. Farmer, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
chael Burkhalter, Cheeksville, Tho's K. Clingan, 
Smith's M Roads. W.E.Pope, Philadelphia. Aaron 
Compton, Somerville. Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iron Works, Asa Newport, Mecsville. James 
Maulden, Van Buren. A. Burroughs, Wesley. Wm. 
Croom, Jackson. S>ioi\B'A$s, Three Forks, John w. 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough, Jacks 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Sevierville. 
Thos. B.Yeates,Lynchbiirg. CT. Echols, Mifflin. 
Aaron Tison, Medun, Levi Kirkland and George 
Turner, Waverlu. Aimer Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Sncdysvillc, Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
X Hoods. J, Cooper, Unionvillc. Michael Bran- 
pon, Long Savannah, .las. 11. Holloway, Hazel 
Green, William McBee, Old Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin w. Harget, Cherryville, Robert Gregory, 
'Carouth's X Roads. John Scallorn, Shady Gtove, 

Mississippi.— Jesse Battle, Meridian Springs. 
WorshamMann Columbus. Wm. Huddleston,7%o- 
maslon. Nathan Tims, Kosciusko, Jona. D.Cain, 
Waterford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 
Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris, 
Wheeling. Simpson Parks, Lockharl's Store, 
Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, Wm. Bingo, Hamilton. 

James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd jJeerfiah 
and Thomas H. Dixon, Macon. John Erwin^ 
Linkhorne, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and MicajAU 
Crenshaw, Marion. Win. H Warren, Dekalb. C: 
Nichols, StUmp Bridge. VVooten Hill, Cooksvil let 
William Ciark, Mai ion. 

Florida. — James Alderman am' P. Blount) 
China Hill. David Callaway, Cherry Lake. John 
F. Hagan, Montic'llo. 

Louisiana. — Peter Barikstort, Marburyville. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro'. Uriah Stevens* 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson. 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View\ 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Sal tzman, New Harmony. I- 
saac vv. Denman, GaWatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Philanthropy. John 
B. Moses, Gernianton, 

Kentucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, Coriicliusville. Levi Lancaster, 

Virginia.— Kemuel C. Gilbert, Sydnorsville. 
Rudolph Rorer, Bergcr's Store. John Clark, fVr» 
dcricksburg. Wm. W. West, Dumfries^ Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifax C, H> George w. Sanford, 
Harrisonburg. Jesse Lankford, Bowers's, Eli* 
jah Hansbrough, Somerville. Wilson Davenport, 
White House. Arthur w. Eanes, EdgehilU James 
B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. 

Perns ylvaniA. — Hezekiah West, South Hill. 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. Nathan Everitt, 
Chil/icoa/s Town. 

New York. — Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 

Massachusetts. — James Osbourn, Wvburn, 


jnmes Osbourn, 


Lewis Peacock, $ 


David Rowoll, jr. 


James Stokes, 


W. JV1. Stanton, 


Joshua S. Vann, 


Sam'l C. Johnson 


Marshal McGraw 


Isaac Tillery-, 


Owen Smith, 


James B. Collins 


G. VV. Pu S h, 


John VV. Turner, 


Wm. H. Warren 


John M. Pearson 


Henry Adams 


Peter Jones 


Mark Meclammy 


Jno. Youinans 


John F. Hagan 


Geo. VV. Jeter 


J. G. Walker 


Woolen Hill 


John Bonds 


David Jones, 

5 | 

VVm. L. Taylor, 





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Alabama, Lawrence county, J 
Mttrck 22d, 1540. $ 
1)eAr brkthren Editors: I wish to 
give 3'ou a view of the present day. VVc 
have got ?ome of the New Society men 
yet amongst us. Ilezekiah-Iike — and he 
gave him a sign, But Ilezekiah render- 
ed not according to (lie benefit done unlo 
him, for his heart was lifted up. 2d 
Chron. 38d. 21,25. Ahaz trusted in" the 
Assyrians for help, had refused a sign gra- 
ciously offered by God as a token of deliv- 
erance. He did not choose to put his 
whole trust in God, though his pre- 
tence was, hd would not tempt the Lord. 
This might lead his son Ilezekiah to ask 
for a sign, nild it proved a snare to him. 

The king of Babylon on finding Ilezekiah 
so highly honored by the sun, thought it 
incumbent on him to send Absalom with 
letters and a present to such a favorite of the 
God of the Babylonians. Ilezekiah barken- 
ed unto (herrtj&sought craftily to avail him- 
self of this false notion of the king of Baby- 
Ion; & by not affronting their god he hoped 
to gain a safe protection against the king 
of Assyria. Josiah was ordered to acquaint 
him, that as he preferred an arm of flesh to 
hisalmighty "deli verer, he should experience 
the sad effect of his folly in not honoring 
God in all that he had so vainly showe I, 
should he Carried to Babylon. Ilezekiah 
ought to have testified to the embassadors, 
that the Lord God of Israel stopped the sun 
in its progress. He had here'a fair opportuni- 
ty of showing them & their king the vanity 
of their idolatry in worshiping the sun, evi- 
dently under the diicctiun of a superior 

being. He ought also to have given God 
all the glory in this matter, and have 
tested on him & him alone for safety, who 
had just then given him such striking proof 
of his power and favor. 

Worldly wisdom is arrant folly, and 
when set in opposition to the will of God 
will be sure to disappoint us. Even the 
noblest instance of wisdom and love, God 
ever shewed in the salvation of sinners 
by Jesus Christ, if not accepted with hu- 
mility and simplicity in God's own way 
by faith, will not have its blessed effects. 
Worldly wisdom ensnared Hezckiah; 
and carnal wisdom, ever attended with 
loftiness of heart, is daily destroying its 

From worldly wisdom save mo, Lord, 
Though men ma)' prudence call it; 
My heart be anchor'd on thy word 
Whatever storms befall it. 

I will now show you some of our new 
school men's ideas concerning the spread of 
the gospel, to wit: 

"Through the instrumentality of the 
church, the gospel is preached to all nations. 
That the gospel be preached to every crea- 
ture is the express command of our Lord, 
as given a little before his ascension; and 
under this commission his immediate disci- 
ples and subsequent ministers act; and to 
accomplish (he spread of the gospel, human 
means must now be instrumental, since mi- 
racles have ceased and the great head of the 
church is not bete in person; and since his 
visible withdrawal, what depository on 
earth is so proper as his church? Acts, 
2d chap, and 1 I and 45: And all that be- 
lieved were together & had all things com- 
mon. 45, And sold their possessions and 
goods and parted them to all men as every 
man had need " 

These and a great many other scripture! 



they will missapply to try to support their 
missionary designs. Brethren, you very 
well know that was for the poor saints ai 
Jerusalem thatweresufleringin consequence 
of the past famine that had been amongst 
them; and not for the fat preachers, as is in 
our day and lime. But concerning 'he 
idea of human means, to assist the Lord to 
convert the heathen as they say; what folly, 
making God out a bankrupt. He purpo- 
sed to save souls, but cannot without the aid 
of poor sinful man. His own words will 
go to prove this idea false, for he says 
he has all power in- heaven and on earth, 
and without me you can do nothing 
There is a way that seemeth right unto man, 
but the end thereof is death. 

I still receive the Primitive Baptist pa- 
per tolerably regular, and have taken pains 
to extend it through several counties, and 
find it prospering in the minds of all who 
read them. 

I would say a great deal more, but the 
paper is full now. No more at present. 
Skit remain yours in gospel bonds. 



Henderson county , Tennessee, ~> 
December \5lh, 1S39. \ 

Dear Editors: In hearing a great ma- 
flay things said of the gospel, or about the 
gospel and the use of the same, I wish also 
to show my opinion in accordance with 
the Lord's truth as evidence to the same. 

Paul to Gal. 1st chapt. Sih verse: But 
though we, or an angel from heaven, preach 
any other go«pel unto you than that which 
we have preached unto you, let him be ac- 
cursed. We see that Paul's experience had 
laught him concerning those characters 
Whose intention was to impose on the 
churches. He gives this solemn charge, 
to watch against imposition and wicked 
men preaching a gospel which is not the 
gospel. We hear him in the same chap- 
ter to the Galatians: 1 marvel that ye are 
so soon removed from him that called you 
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel, 
which is not another; but there be some 
that trouble you, and would pervert the 
gospel of Christ. 

Yes, they (Lhe missionaries) have come 
flocking to the South and West, like pi- 
geons in a mast year, and have their roost 
in every town of any note, and have 
brought with them gospel enough to save 
the world, provided they would re- 

ceive it. But Paul tells us not to re-* 
cieve it, for rt is a perverted gos- 
p-'l, and to curse all such sons of Belial. 
But, says one, how can 1 reject a preacher,, 
and a Baptist at that, when he professed 
to love me so well, and appears to be so righ- 
teous? 1 am so fearful of doing wrong, and! 
the preacher tells me not to judge but to 
bear one another's burthen, lest I should do 
wrong;, I will have friendship and com- 
mune with all the Baptists. I hear Paul 
say; All scripture is given by inspiration 
-of God, and is profitable for doctrine, in- 
struction, &c. Paul has let the churches 
know the scripture never has taught us not 
lo judge false teachers, neither has it ever 
taught the church to bear with any perver- 
ter of the gospel, or Ishmaelite mocker. 

Paul certainly has commanded the 
church to curse them that preach a strange- 
gospel or pervert the gospel of Chrisu 
, How are we to curse those Cain-like wor- 
shipers, without we first pass judgment?' 
it is certainly the duty of the watchman 
to give the alarm, and the church then to* 
judge the minislersof the devil & pronounce 
the curse. And if it is the truth, that we 
should judge no man as a preacher y no man 
can be rejected, let him love God or money,, 
be a Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian, scis- 
matic, or any of the daughters of Mystery 
Babylon. But give up the faith, call all 
the watchman to hold their peace, and 
bring about that great day which the mis- 
sionaries have so long prophesied of, and 
promised would come, when all men should 
join in one consolidated mass oi worship 
and lay down all contention. And all 
such lying prophets and their prophesies 
have thousands believed, when there is 
not the shadow of a proof in the scrip- 

But the man hath told a beautiful tale, & 
1 reckon it must be so, says one. Let us hear 
Paul or Peter on the subject, saying, that 
evil men and seducers shall wax worse and 
worse, deceiving & being deceived. Then 
away with your better times, for God says, 
be ye separate, and not consolidate, when 
they bring another gospel which is not ano- 
ther. It is the duty of all churches to curse 
such gentry, who believe that gain is god- 
liness. But though we or an angel preach 
any other gospel, &.c. It is given up by 
all hands, that Paul preached the gos- 
pel of Christ. Let us examine and see 
if we can find out what it is. Paul lo Gala- 
tiausi'But I certify you, brethren, that the 
gospel which was preached of me was not 



after man; for I neither received it of man, f 
neither was 1 taught it but by the revelation 
of Jesus Christ. But in this enlightened day, 
as is so often rehearsed in your hearing, 
men can he taught. Yes, sir, they can be 
taught to trouble you & to preach another 
gospel which is not another; but to pervert 
the gospel of Christ. J tide tells us what 
they are taught, by their seminaries of 
learning. He speaks of them on this wise: 
Wo unto them, ("or they have gone in the 
way of Cain, and run greedily after the er- 
lor of Balaam for reward, and perished in 
the gainsay ings of Core. 

Paul to' the Romans: So as much as 
is in me, I am ready to preach the gospel 
to you that are at Rome also, for I am not 
ashamed of the gospel of Christ; for it is the 
power of God unto salvation to every one 
that believelh; to the Jew first, and also 
to the Greek. Paul's gospel seemed to be 
the power of God to the believer; it 
was not to bring men dead in trespass and 
in sin to life, for no man never received 
the gospel but a believer in Christ; and no 
man never believed in Christ, but he that 
is regenerated and born of the spirit of God. 
The renewed mind, the live soul, begins 
to feed and desire the sincere milk of the 
word. This was the case with Cornelius, 
(he first Gentile believer; and we will take 
him for an example and say, that be was 
regenerated and born again; which the 
missionaries, with all their great excellence 
and learning, are ignorant of; for they are 
born without a travel. Cornelius being 
prepared for the reception of the gos- 
pel, and not the gospel to prepare him to 
receive the spirit of God, now Cornelius 
is commanded to send for Peter; and when 
Peter had come to his house, he says: Now 
therefore we are all here present before God 
to hear all things that are commanded thee 
of God. Was Cornelius saved before Pe- 
ter preached the gospel to him? Certain- 
ly he was. Was he an heir of God before 
he Was born of the spirit of God. if 
you intend to say no, look in your book 
before you speak, lest you dispute gospel 

I am contending for a faith that is con- 
sistent with the immutability of the God of 
Jacob. Paul to Gal. 4 chap. : Now I say 
that the heir as long as he is a child, dili'er- 
eth nothing from a servant, though he be 
lord of all; but is under tutors and govern- 
ers until the time appointed of the father. 
Even so we when we were children, were 
in bondage under the elements of the 

world. .Jesus says: All that the Father 
hath given me shall come to me. Now, 
missionaries and free willers, how do you 
get along here? Will any be saved that 
never was given to Christ? Say no. Plow 
then will you have if, for so many thou- 
sands to wade to hell through the blood of 
Christ? Sirs, God never sent his son to 
die in vain. No, Sir, none of the heirs of 
hell never waded in the blood of Christ, nor 
had any interest there; if they had, they ne- 
ver could go to hell. I hear him say: All 
power in heaven and earth is given into 
my bands. But according to the mission 
doctrines, his power has failed and now 
they are begging money to help God to 
save them from going to hell. The grafts 
of the north have borne such fruit, that we 
can very positively say, they are pervert- 
ers of the gospel of Christ; therefore curse 

Paul to Hebrews: The children being 
partakers of flesh and blood, he also (Jesus) 
took part of the same, that he through death 
might destroy him that had the power 
of death; that is, the devil, and deliver 
those who ail their life time were subject 
to bondage. Says Paul: Who hath deliv- 
ered us from the power of darkness, and 
translated us into the kingdom of his dear 
Son. The matter is very plain that the 
children of God are said to be in bondage, 
and being born of the spirit of God is only 
a manifestation of their inheritance and 
the forgiveness of their sins. Though they 
are born sinners, and under the power of 
darkness, it never made one of them tares 
nor goats. The devil, who was the power of 
darkness, always stood in opposition to God 
as a source of evil. God as the fountain of 
goodness. And as we see in Genesis, 
(not a tree of good and evil, but) a tree of 
the knowledge of good and evil, some of 
the people have concluded, that God made 
a good angel and he became a devil by 
disobeying God. Jesus says: Search the 
scriptures. He does not say, search Scott's 
Commentary, which two-thirds of the Bap- 
tists set their ideas and doctrines from, and 
other authors loo tedious to name. 

If you call yourself a Primitive Baptist, 
hush such inconsistent foolishness, for John* 
says: All spirits are not of God. John is 
wrong, or somebody else. If God made the 
devil, he certainly is of God, for he is a spirit. 
Let us not charge God with folly nor miscar- 
riage in his purposes; neither the author of 
evil directly nor indirectly. This same old 
serpent, as bad as his children hate to hear- 


him exposed, has his ministry, has his 
doctrine*, tables and cups, and his gospel. 
Paul says, which is not another, but to per- 
vert the right ways of the Lord. I hear 
Paul say: O full of all subtilty an! all mis- 
chief, thou child of the devil, wilt thou 
not cease to pervert the right ways of the 
Lord? We have plenty such characters 
in these days of warfare, that change the 
truth of God into a lie. Paul 9ays: I am 
set for the defence of the gospel, after set- 
ting up the gospel church; which is call- 
ed the sheepfold, for the safety and preser- 
vation of the flock, so that they could be fed 
without the interruption of goats and dogs. 
Then it was necessary to have shepherds 
to feed them and guard them. I hear Peter 
say: Feed the flock of God,which is amongst 
you, &c. 

Isaiah, 4 chapt. says, when looking for- 
ward to a gospel church and the salvation 
of the same: And the Lord will create 
upon every dwelling place of Mount Zion, 
and upon her assembly, a cloud and smoke 
by day, and the shining of a flaming fire 
By night; for upon all the glory shall be a 
defence^ and there shall be a taberna- 
cle for a shadow in the day time from the 
heat, and for a place of refuge and for a co- 
vert from the storm and from rain. In 
Paul's letter to the Ephesian brethren: In 
whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard 
the word of truth, the gospel of your 
salvation'; in whom after that ye believed, 
were sealed with the holy spirit of prom- 
ise, the earnest of our inheritance until the 
redemption of the purchased possession un- 
to the praise of his glory. 

i cli3pt. of Golos. : If you continue in the 
faith grounded and settled, and be not 
moved away from the hope of the gospel 
which ye have heard, and which was 
preached to every creature which is under 
heaven, whereof I Paul am made a minis- 
ter. Compare this verse, and see if it does 
hot cover the 15 verse of the 16 chap, of 
Mark, which is so often harped on by those 
covetous hirelings &pe:'verters of the gos- 
pel. I Thes. 2 chap.: Put even after that 
We had suffered before and were shameful- 
ly entreated as you know, at Philippi, we 
were bold in our God to speak into you the 
gospel of God with much contention. Put 
as we were allowed of God to be put in 
trust with the gospel, even so we speak net 
as pleasing men, but God, which trieth out- 
hearts. For neither at any time used we 
flattering words nor a cloak of covctous- 
ness; God is witness. Is this the charac- 

ter of the great and wonderful missionaries 
of the day. 

Paul to 1 Timothy, 6 chap. 5 verse: Per- 
verse disputing* of mei. of corrupt minds, & 
destitute of the truth, -supposing that gain 
is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 
I am very certain- that Paul understood 1 
these men-taught preachers with a fine gos- 
pel,- calculated to please nature and lo get 
men into society, by the- art of their anx- 
ious seats and mourners benches; and the' 
more they baptise the more gain. The 
gospel that Paul preached was giver* him? 
of God, calculated to save the church, and 
build her up in the most holy faith. Pan? 
never has said, in all his ministry, the re- 
ception of the gospel prepared any sinner 
forheaven; nor refusing, prepared them for 
hell. I think it strange for so many men; 
to read the scriptures, and never have found 
out the use of the gospel and wise men loo;? 
but their wisdom is of this World, and they 
cannot know God nor his gospel. There 
are at this time thousands of men trying 1©» 
pervert the gospel of God;; what is it for? 
why, say they, to save poor lost sinners. If 
so, many men have been lost and will be 
lost, if the people - do not give their money 
to these gospel merchants, as their cry is. 
I will ask a question simply, what did? 
Christ die for? Did he satisfy justice? 
were not the sins of all his brethren laid up- 
on him in the great sacrifice of out sa'lva*- 
tioti in which it was- actually, positively 
and certainly complete. And it is now leffe 
on an uncertainty, to be carried out by the' 
wisdom of the world. 

pitiful shift for any man to say, that' 
no man is saved till he is a believer in 1 
Christ. I think I hear the prophet says' 
Who is this that cometh up from Edoin,, 
with dyed garments from Eozra? this that 
is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the 
greatness of his strength. I tlrat speak in 
righteousness,- mighty to save. Wherefore; 
art thou red in thine apparel, and thy gar- 
ments like him that tread'eth in the wine 
fat? 1 have trodden the wine press alone,. 
and of the people there was none to help' 
(or with me.) The prophets look forward 
to the great sacrifice, which was offered once- 
in the end of the world to put away sin,, 
in which was a full & complete atonement 
made for all the seed of Abraham; not Ish- 
mael nor the generations of vipers that 
came to.lohn's baptism; for if ye bcChrisl's, 
then areye Abraham's seed, and heirs accor- 
ding to the promise. Put these gospel mer- 
chants if they had capital enough, they cai* 



coTivert and biptise more tli r» n ever Christ' 
*toHecl for. Says the general atoncr, there 
is no man saved by the death & resurrection 
•of Christ, until there is an application of 
his blood. He, say they, has died to make 
a way possible for a'll men to be saved. Is 
this the gospel ? Is this the gospel that 
Paul preached at Rome? No, sir; it is a 
(perversion of the gospel of Christ.. Then 
let all such be accursed. Says enc, 1 be- 
lieve thousands of sinners have gone to : 
hell lor the want of the bread of life, to let 
them know that Jesus Christ has made 
Iheaven possible for all men, and you are 
free agents to act for yourselves; life 
and death are set before you, all you 
Slave to do is to renounce all your for- 
mer coarse and be baptised, and become 
a member of society and give your money 
gn support to all the benevolent institutions 
of the day; which is an offering that God is; 
well pleased with, for it depends upon our 
•own will & choice. You are now invited to 
the gospel feast, the means are in your own 
hands and you, O sinners, must lie in the 
fuse of means, and if you will not receive the 
gospel you must be damned. And they will 
quote scripture: Therefore we are embas- 
sadors for Christ, as tho' God did beseech 
you, we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye 
reconciled to God, And poor blind guides, 
never have found out that Paul was writing 
to a church. Is this the gospel that Paul 
pleached? No, but it is another, which 
is not another, but a perversion of the gos- 
pel of Christ. Then it is the duly of the 
church of Christ to curse all such Ba- 
laam-like preachers. If we or an angel 
from faeaveia preach any other gospel, 

Whatdoyou see in their publications? 
Why, sir, it is a great sin for any of the 
churches to attempt to curse one of them, 
by rejecting him or them and refusing 
to commune with them, and the liberty 
of our pulpits, which is the positive com- 
mand to reject all such hirelings. They 
are very much surprised for a few illiterate 
fisherman or backwoods hunters, to have 
the audacity to make all their great doings 
a test of fellowship, when we are doing 
so much for the Lord, and saving so many 
souls by our great excellence and learning, 
having so many revivals. You can hear 
them howl like so many wolves at the scent 
of the sheep's blood; and all they lack in 
drinking deep in the blood of saints is pow- 
er, for which they the money-loving crew 
have laid many stratagems to take our 

liberties. We find that they have been try- 
ing to save a great many people by their 
abstaining society, some times called tem- 
perance. And it having not answered 
their purpose,it finds its way into the Le- 
gislature of this and other States. I hare 
often told the people for seven years pa6t, 
that under the cloak of temperance, 
was a combination of power intended, that 
would sooner or later take hold of our civil 
liberties. I say to the friends of Zion, stand 
with your swords upon your thigh, for the 
devil is mustering his forces under a white 
color, and the sign is temperance, Sunday 
school unions, bible societies, conventions, 
boards, directors and companies. And 
their trumpet sounds an uncertain sound, 
which is another gospel, which is not an- 
other. He that's guilty, man or angel, let 
him be accursed. 

I saw in a publication some time since, 
a communication of a great revival in Ala- 
bama, probably; but he soon begins to la- 
ment its decline. He says, a preacher and a 
deaconofthe church where thisrevival be- 
gan, had in the time put up a distillery in 
the neighborhood, and the good work is 
stopped. It is no wonder that the mission- 
aries, if their temperance societies can influ- 
ence their god to commence a good work, 
and he will get mad because some of the 
members would put up a distillery, The 
writer says, he advises the brethren to cir- 
culate tracts on temperance, and hold tem- 
perance meetings. He ought to have ad- 
vised them, like Elisha did Ahab's proph- 
ets, to call loud least he might have been 
gone a journey, or in conversation. Is this 
the God that Paul preached? No, sir, let 
him be accursed, &c. 

The God of Israel says: I will work 
and none can hinder. A few pitiful 
distilleries cannot prevent his work, 
nor frustrate his designs. Isaiah speaks 
of him as a God, saying: I am God and 
there is none like me; declaring the 
end from the beginning, and from an- 
cient times the things that are not yet 
done; saying, my council shall stand, and I 
will do ail my pleasure. The Old Baptists 
are often complained of, for being so nar- 
row and contracted, as to pray to God to 
stop the work under missionary labor. If 
I wanted to stop missionary revivals, I 
would put up a distillery and not ask God 
to interfere with them: for I have not the 
least idea that God has any thing to do 
with them, (or their great protracted revi- 
vals.) I do not know why has prayed la 



Ihe Lord (o stop the great works 6f mission- 
aries. I never have, for God has promis 
ed that he will bring to nought the wis- 
dom of the wise, and the understanding 
of the prudent. We see the wisdom 
of the world, displayed by missionary 
gentry. We see their great religious pru- 
dence in forming societies to prevent men 
jfrom spending their money for spiritous li- 
quor, chewing and smoking tobacco. Paul 
asks a question, where is the wise, where is 
the disputer ofthis? They are very plen- 
ty in these times of trial, Yes, sir, they 
are disputers ofthis world, disputing with 
1heir new or perverted gospel, by denying 
the gospel of Christ. 'And I can tell you 
how you may know them in their gospel, 
■which is not the gospel that Paul preached. 
They have men and money, in the place of 

Christ. Notwithstanding they tell you tint! they all look to their own way; every one 
Christ has died and made an atonement for j for his gain from hi -; quarter — whether it 
all men, it yet takes missionaries and mo is one dollar per sermon, $1000 or $2000 
ney to complete your salvation. Paul says, I a year. We also hear Micah speak of 

angel from heaven preach any other gospel 
than that we have preached unto you, re- 
ceive it not. I say, pay no regard to their' 
great appearance, or their greatness, if 
they tell you they are just fiom the study 
of theology or philosophy, if he has ju.-t 
returned from India, as Mr. Luther Rice, 
who returned to America afier putting on 
a sheep-kin by baptism, to excite a mis- 
sionary spirit in America; and 1 do not be- 
lieve he had any more of the faith of the 
gospel of Christ, than my horse. Here is 
where the two daughters of the horse leech 
began to cry, give, give; and their names 
are pride and covetousness, which stimu- 
late all missionary priests. The prophet 
speaks of it in his day, saying: They are 
greedy dogs which can never have enough; 
they are shepherds that cannot understand; 

curse all such, for it is another gospel ■ them in his 
which is not another; but ihey trouble vou \ for reward, 

and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 

The missionary system, which is noth- 
ing more than one of the daughters of the 
great whore — says one, do not say so, we 
ought not to judge — how do you know? 1 
judge from character and family favor. She 
has everyfeature of the Mystery Babylon, 
ihe old lady. She authorised her servants 
to deliver from purgatory, for the payment 
of so much money; and by so doing they 
could make the miserable happy. The 
daughter who at this time resides in Ame- 
rica with her priestcraft, give them money 
enough they can save all your friends, and 
Birma and Hindustan thrown in. There 
:ire a great many other family marks, if 1 
had room to show; but if any man can show 
me a daughter more like her mother, I 
should like to see it. 

These American priests when they first 
go to a neighborhood, if there is a church 
there they will first impose themselves on 
the church as Baptist preachers; and com- 
mencing Ihey baptise and get into the 
church as many of the world as they can, 
so a-) to make a parly sufficiently to sustain 
them. As soon as they are apprehended, 
then for divisions. Where is the cause? 
They cry out, iheseold predestiuarians are 
opposed to the spread of the gospel; which 
we say is not the gospel, but a perversion 
of the right ways of the Lord. 1 say it is 
a righteous thing for the churches of Christ 
to curse all such angels, Paul says: If an 


clay: The heads thereof jnd-ge 
ind the priests thereof teach 

for hire, and the prophets thereof divine 

for money; yet will ihey lean upon the 
Lord and say — we are vilified and misrep- 
resented, and our great works are 
a test of fellowship. 

Paid says: Curse all such angel-*, for it 
is another gospel which is not another? hut 
would pervert ihe gospel of Christ. I hear 
Ihe prophet say: 1 will call many fis ers, 
and they shall fish them; and i will call 
many hunters, and they shall- hunt them. 
lie never has said, that he would < all ihe 
first fop nor proud priest from none of iheir 
machineries to prepare men to offer abomi- 
nations to the Lord. For I hear one say : 
The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomina- 
tion to the Lord. What do vou mean, 
says one, by the sacrifice of the, wicked? 
li is nothing more or less, th m these great 
religions shows to call the people together 
to see their great sacrifice; such as, camp 
or protracted meetings, encompassing sea 
and land to make proselytes, robbing the 
Methodists. 1 hear the Lord by the mouth 
of ihe prophet saying: I will bring them 
from all lands, whither 1 have scattered 
ihem in the dark and cloudy day. 

1 believe the Lord has a people, or more 
properly called in the New Testament, 
children. Paul to Tim. 2 chap. : Who hath 
saved us &. railed us with a holy palling, not 
ace jrcling to our works, but according to his 
own purpose and grace which was given us 
in Christ Jesus before the world began; 


r iG7 

hrti is now mule manifest by the appearing. 
«f our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abo 
lished death and bath brought life and im- 
mortality to light through the gospel. 
Hut the gospel that missionaries preach, 
lias for their Saviour, money enough and 
all can be saved; which is another gospel. 
Let him be accursed, whether you are ap- 
plauded or not. 

John saw the bride, the Lamb's wife, 
coming down from God out of heaven. 
There never was a member of that body 
•saved by a missionary, nor lost for the 
want of a proud priest; but their elder bro- 
ther, the Lord Jesus Christ, is the Saviour 
•of his people. From the law of sin and 
•death they are then called by the spirit of 
God, brought to a lively exercise of sensa- 
tion by the renewing of the Holy Ghost, 
and being delivered from that stare of con- 
demnation, they are now called new-born 
ibabes which desire the sincere milk of the 
"word, that they may thrive and grow 
thereby; which prepares them for the re- 
ception of the gospel, so as to be saved 
from all the missionaries and 'their preten- 
ded gospel, which is not another, but a 
perversion of the gospel of Christ. This is 
the way, I understand Jesns, that he hss 
saved his people; and there is not the least 
clanger of any of the children of God going 
to hell, nor the least chance for any of the 
children of the devil to inherit eternal life. 
Old John came preaching in the wilder- 
ness of Judea. He was the beginning of 
<the gospel of Jesus Christ, and his business 
was to make ready a people prepared for 
the Lord. He was nota missionary of the 
present day's, stripe, toying to baptise all 
the world if they will say they are Abra- 
ham's seed. When all Judea and Jerusa- 
lem, and all round about Jordan, came to 
John and was baptised of him in Jordan, 
confessing their sins, there were others 
came and demanded baptism of him. Says 
John: generation of vipers, who hath 
warned you to* flee the wrath to come? 
Now, sir, if John had been stimulated by 
the missionary spirit, or had been filled 
with leligion just from the eastern facto- 
ries, where they are constantly preparing 
saviours that can be had on reasonable 
terms for cash, this kind of perverters 
would not have acted like old John. Not 
being influenced by the same spirit, they 
would have said, come, Christ has made an 
atonement for 3'ou all, and I want to bap- 
tise all, so as to make a wonderful report 
to head quarters. 1 have no doubt but what 

the missionaries in their great and wonder- 
ful works have baptised ten vipers to one 
of the children of Abraham. The minis- 
ters of the gospel of Christ go for quality, and 
the ministers of the devil go for quantity, so 
as to gain power and money; and enough of 
them will carry their stratagems into effect. 
I am willing for God to do his own work, 
for salvation is of the Lord; and not to be 
like the missionaries, in their false zeal 
bring into the church a nation of mocking 
Ishmaelites, to be heirs with the children 
of the free woman. 

This is the reason you hear so much 
complaint in these days about freedom as 
members of churches, and liberty of con- 
science. 0, say the missionaries, we 
should not bind consciences; every mem- 
ber has a right to do as he pleases with his 
own. We hear these things talked of 
much by the priests of America; by these 
sort we are called new test. But I say, the 
test was made by Christ and his apostles. 
If they have acted unwisely, you must not 
fault us; for we aim to follow the example, 
even if we fail to get money or applause. 
The gospel with the discipline belongs to 
the church, we do not pretend to lay any 
restriction on any man or member of the 
church; when the Lord has positively 
said, it is wrong for a member of the church 
to do so and so, the missionaries say you 
must do so and so, in contradiction to the 
Saviour. The church of God was set up 
for a separation of God's p cple from the 
world. Now, sir, if a man becomes a 
member of the church he has now become 
Christ's servant and has given himself to 
the Lord, and then to one another he has 
bis limits or restrictions. Says Paul: If 
any come amongst you arrd bring not this 
doctrine, receive him not into your hou- 
ses, neither bid him God's speed, lest ye 
be partaker of his evil deeds. 

The missionaries cannot see the king- 
dom of God, for they are not born again 
or regenerated. I say, any man profess- 
ing to be a believer in Christ, and becomes 
a member of the church — when I say 
church, I do not mean societies of mission- 
aries, Methodists, or any of the societies 
of the day, which belong to the spirit of 
antichrist--when 1 say or speak of the 
church of Christ, 1 mean a body of faithful 
men and women, believing and relying on 
the promises of God as a whole Saviour, 
without the aid of missionary operations to 
carry it out. 1 should have as good right 
to believe that the Legislature of any State 



was a church, as I have i lie missionary 
societies of Lhc clay to lie the church of 
Christ. Members of society and of the 
Mystery Babylon, have a right to support 
their lather the clevi!, and no man lias a 
right to forbid him , but whenever a man 
is a member of the chinch of Chjist, ami 
gives one cent to the support of the minis- 
ters of the, he has sinned against 
God and the church; and after reproof and 
admonition, a continuation of the same 
thing is a suflicienl ground for exclusion 
from the church, for disregarding the apos- 
tles' advie-3. The man that cries tyranny, 
under such circumstance*, you mark him 
down as an Ishmaelito, and is a full proof 
that such character is unreconciled to the 
order of the church. 

The missionaries think very strange, 
that a church should exclude a member 
lor supporting their institutions, or the 
gentry that are selling them up; and well 
they may, for such fellows are ignorant 
of God's righteousness, and going a- 
bout to establish a righteousness of their 
own. And with their own they have 
their own rules and regulations, which 
they think are much preferable to those 
of the gospel. Paul to 1st Cor: Ye can- 
not drink the cup of the Lord, ami the cup 
of devils. You cannot be partaker of 
the Lord's table, and the table of devils. 
The perverters of the gospel, under the 
name of Baptists, would make you believe 
if it were possible, that Paul was alluding 
1o tippling shops and drinking of spiritous 
liquors; which they say is the great cause 
of all evils, or the great means by which 
the devil destroys so many of the people. 
Now, sir, if I was going to find or look for 
the devil's cups and*lables, 1 would go im- 
mediately to where the missionaries are 
communing in the name of the Lord, and 
all the rest of their brethren under different 
names, from John Wesley to the Mormon- 
ites. They arc all under the influence 
of the same spirit, all in opposition to the 
church of Christ. 

We find that the old lady has named 
one of her most promising daughters Miss 
Missionary Baptist; not one of them his 
ever had the Lord's table, therefore Paul 
lias forbid the members of the body of 
Christ to partake, for il is sin in the 
highest degree. But all of them as they 
are sisters, can commune and sacrifice 
together, and not transgress the laws of 
Christ, because they never had them, nei- 
ther the gospel of Christ, but anoth- 

er. Paul says, when they come with 
grwit swelling words, curse them, and 
have no fellowship with the unfruitful 
works of darkness. If any member of the 
i hurch aids or assists in any shape or form 
in support of any ol' the devil's preachers, 
or little societies with temperance or be- 
nevolent cloaks on, and religion enough 
to save the world, he is a sinner against 

1 saw in a publication a circumstance of 
a lady, probably in Maryland; 1 merely 
name this circumstance to show how men 
will applaud one another, for disregarding 
the commandments of Christ. There was 
a certain church who had shut tier door's 
as Paul had directed them, and had cursed 
some of the American born priests, by let- 
ling them know that we have an altar, that 
they have no right to eat who serve ilio 
tabernacle, and thai they did not intend to 
give up one church right to the supporters 
of the Mystery Babylon, nor any of her 
daughters. And a certain lady since that lime 
I has spent S 1500 in building a fine meeting-. 
' house, independent of the church of whhh 
| she was a member, anil said, come, 
i you can have liberty to preach here indc- 
! pendent of the church. Now, sir, see 
jhow much they are like blind adders; Je- 
j sus asked an important question very ap- 
plicable to the case, saying: Ye serpents, 
ye generation of vipers, how can you es- 
cape the damnation of hell. 

0, says a missionary, if I had power 
over the venders of alcohol, and then had 
money enough, we could cause a great ma- 
ny to escape that will finally he lost. Wo 
have no such language in lhc scriptures, 
therefore wo shall not take their bare as- 
sumption for proof. Wc will iry the case 
of the great good deed done by this reli- 
gious lady, Paul said, if any come among 
you and bring not this doctrine, receive 
him not info your bouses, neither bid him 
God speed lest ye he partakers of his evil 
deeds. If we or an augeU from heaven, 
preach any other doctrine, let him be accur- 
sed. If these money-hunters brought the 
gospel to the church above named, it is 
more than I ever heard or read of. They 
called the act. of the church very wicked & 
ungenerous, and undertook to show that 
God was displeased with their conduct, 
and has stimulated this lady to show her 
generosity and frendship to the great and 
wonderful, eloquent, benevolent and reli- 
gious priests, recently prepared in the 
eastern cities, by the most talented arlista 



now in America, on moderarc term.'; for 
cash. If Paul was moved by the Holy 
Ghest (o advise the members of the 
church for their safety, this great and good 
woman was moved by tin: spirit of the ile- 
vil. Their intention no doubt was to ap- 
plaud lli is great act, as Being moved by 
the God of Israel, so as to stimulate others 
to show their Religion by building fine 
meeting houses for missionaries; for they 
like very well to preach in mahogany pul- 
pits, walk on carpeted Doors & sit on cush- 
ioned seats, & to keep the company of the 
rich and live on the best; and rather than 
be counted nice, will receive from $.500 to 
$1000 a year. And who is it that would 
not try to please the world for that much 
honor and gain? You may depend it must 
be great temptation to wicked professors 
and lovers of money. 

We will try this case a little further. 
When we profess Christ and become mem 
hers of the church, it is represented as a 
marriage, Christ being I he head &. husband; 
& all the people will say, that it is right to 
obey her husband in all things before any 
other man. The laws of our Slate say, a 
woman shall have but one husband liv- 
ing at the same time; if she docs, she is 
an adujtress. Paul being evidence, in the 
above named case, I make no more or less 
of the case than a religious whoredom, 
which God will judge. The next thing 
I am listening for from these great gospel 
merchants, as times are getting so hard, for 
them to make them a sufficient God to save 
all the people, to be predicated on the credit 
of their religion, viz; a petition to the Le- 
gislature to issue hank paper. 

I believe in an all-wise, immutable, un- 
changeable God; & being a God of purpose 
and never has changed, he has appointed 
his ministers and committed unto them a 
dispensation of the gospel; not to save sin- 
ners, but to feed the flock of Christ, and 
not for filthy lucre sake, like the hirelings 
who care not for the flock only at shear- 
ing lime, and that they will attend to twice 
a year, rather than be counted nice. It is 
no wonder to me they do not believe Paul's 
doctrine, for he has given their character 
in such plain style, that he that has eyes can 
discern them quickly. They arc represent- 
ed by vipers, goats, and tares; now if any 
man can show me vvhercever a viper was 
turned to a thh, and a goat to a sheep, or a 
tare to a wheat, I will acknowledge it is a 
place I never saw. Paul's gospel declares 
the salvation of God's children wholly by 

the atonement of Christ, certainly and pos- 
itively, before they have an) 7 knowledge of 
the fact. And in God's proper time he 
will make known the riches ol his grace to 
the objects of his love. Paul to the point: 
For God who was rich in mercy for his 
great love wherewith he loved us, even 
when we were dead in sins, hath quickened 
us together with Christ; by grace arc yesa- 
ved. And not by the great cflortism of 
missionary priests, nor their money. 

There is one thing that is very aston- 
ishing to me, lor any man to pretend to ad- 
vocate the doctrine of predestination, and 
election, and the purposes of God, and then 
say there is no such thing as the children of 
God till a manifestation of the purpose of 
God is made known to the sinner. Yon 
will admit, that God loved us while we 
were sinners; wo had not been regenerated, 
so 1 think we certainly were children, heirs 
of God before we were born again by tho 
spirit of God. Is it the birth of a child that 
makes jt- a child? or is it. a child before born, 
& birth is only a manifestation of the reality 
ol conception. 1 contend, and that consist- 
ently too, the children of God consist in 
the relationship they bear to the Father, 
being the product of the eternal Jehovah. 
Then having been born into this world in 
sin, has never lessoned the relationship, has 
never abated bis love. Jesus says; Father, 
(speaking of his brethren) thou hast loved 
them as thou hast loved me, and thou !ov- 
esl me before the world began. And again: 
1 have loved them with an everlasting 
love, therefore with loving kindness have 
I drawn them. God lias always loved his 
own, & there is not the least danger of one 
of the objects of his love going to hell. I 
hear Jesus saying: AH power is given into 
my hands; I have the keys of death and 
hell. The kin»; of darkness is at his con- 
trol; when he says, so far shall thou go 
and no farther. If we or an angel from 
heaven preach any, &.c. let him be accur- 

J hear the prophet say these are not my 
prophets; I never sent them. They shall 
gather together, but not by my spirit, 
saj^h the Lord. Soil must be by the spirit 
of the devil, with all his transformed minis- 
try, under the name of Baptists. Whenever 
they arc exposed by the watchmen of Zion, 
you will hear them cry out, we are vilified 
&abuscd by these hard-hearted people oppo- 
sed tpthespread of f he gospel; tryingtosiiow 
a great degree of innocency by their great 
zeal for the salyation of sinners and the 



collection of money and large salaries. 
God has set watchmen on the wails of Zion 
lor a defence, and Paul tells us whereby we 
can know them, and tells us to judge them 
and their gospel, and if it is another, to 
curse all such pervert lis. 

We have some Goliahs, as they think, 
in defence of their mission plan; and when 
they are opposed by the people of God, 
they say like Goliah of the Philistines did 
to David: Have you come out against 
me as if I was a dead dog? And it was 
not long till he was a dead dog, like some 
of the missionaries frequently find them- 
selves when coming in contact with trn 
shepherds of Israel. 1 think it would be 
best for them, the uncircu'meised in heart 
and ears of ihe mission clan, to keep out 
of a stone's sling and of a bow shoot .of the 
true shepherds, as ii is very common 
for them to have the big head, and 
they might feel a pebble; or like Ahab, 
the joints of their harness so large, that it 
is not a hard matter for a backwoods hunter 
to slip an arrow between the joints, and 
they fare like their old father Ahab. An-d 
ihey know nothing of the gospel, let them 
he accursed. C. T. ECHOLS. 


from tbese new hut broken cisterns. When 
beckoning did not succeed they tried the virtue of 
illusions, wonders, miracles, &c. Failing in this 
they came a little nearer and used persuasion and 
entreaty- All this not answering the purpose, they 
tried the furce of denunciation and detraction; a 
good deal like the following: "O you hard head- 
ed, hard hearted, iron sided, implacable, contuma- 
cious, inflexible, rigid, bigoted, stupid, ignorant, 
do nothing, Antinomian, contemptible few." And 
they might add, "Why don't you open your eyes 
and behold these new lights — hear and under- 
stand and with all the rest of the world wonder 
after this beautiful, benevolent, silver slippered 
beast and bis image." 

But to the utter astonishment, confusion and 
dismay of tlyj outer court worshippers; the rem- 
nant in Sardis, the living in Jerusalem, will nei- 
ther be led or driven, refusing to the last to be- 
come captivated with the charms of this gold co- 
lored beast. The disappointment of the self- 
righteous is therefore great. They discover that 
all their ingenuity combined with the operation of 
time itself,2avails nothing towards the conversion 
of the remnant to the plausible things of human 
contrivance. They appear now to have more ge- 
nerally settled do\rn upon this point, viz: that fur- 
ther exertion is useless and the case is near about 
hopeless, the Old School are still in the land and 
so likely to remain, unless God would be pleased 
to destroy them as with a pestilence, and take ev- 
ery old ignorant, long horned Baptist out of the 
world. For this they IIOPK, fortius they pray, 
— for this they prophecy, and the time when all 
'■The hypocrite's hope ahull perish." Job, 81 13. these things should come to pass and the incorri- 
One among the notable things of the day is the gible little band become finally extinct has been 
disappointment, of those, who disdaining the ordi- by them often djsignatedi Therefore how serious 
nary meUiod of God's plan of salvation, have their mortification and disappointment; how great 
with a fiery zeal gone over to the New School their chagrin and vexation, to find those whom 
party, and are now revelling in the charms of an they had cast off to languish and die (after they 
illegitimate benevolence. When the waves of could not be won over to the splendor of human 
this popular fury came rolling down upon us from effort,) I say how great their disappointment to 
the East, many stout hearts did both fear and yet witness the existence on earth of this con- 
quake; and no small stir ardse in cur midst, thro' teinptible sect, who are so much every where spo- 
apprehension of being by them completely over- ken against. To learn that instead of despairing, 
whelmed. ! they are full of encouragement; — instead of perfect 

A portion of our profession very readily united weakness their faith is growing stronger; — instead 
with the current of popular opinion, estimating it of being convinced of any error on this subject 
good policy so to do, and supposing that all would (human impolenoy) they are more and more con- 
eventually come into the measure. These prose- firmed in their original opinions; — and instead of 
lytes grew suddenly wise in their own conceit, diminishing and becoming finally extinct, they are 
saw many wonderful things ahead, started for the actually on tire increase and bid fair to live as long 
goal of earthly aggrandizement, with a consider- as missionaries themselves. 

able retinue of the credulous world, and beckoned Alas, alas and cannot the learned ones, the 
Iheir ancient brethren (who were yet enquiring great ones, the dictators and lawmakers have 
what all these things meant) to follow them in things their own way? And are they doomed to 
these new paths leading off from the King's high- j utter disappointment? Are their bright hopes and 
way, and drfnk down, delicious draughts af water fair prospects never to be realized? Matters of 

S VTUltDAY, JUNK 13, 1810. 




fact — actual experience, and last and grcnlest of 
all, the purposes, promises and decrees of Jeho- 
vah, seem with a loud., a long, and a thundering 
emphasis to answer "NO"!! Then what a pity 
for the workmongers, what a withering blight up- 
on their fair prospects — what a dispelling of illu- 
sions from the minds of these midnight dreamers, 
and what a demolition of airy castles will there yet 
be felt and seen amidst their discomfitted ranks! 
"Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, 
saith the Lord of hosts." "Say ye to the righte- 
ous it shall be well with hiuii" "When thou 
passest through the waters, I will be with thee; 
and through the rivers they shall not overflow 
thee; when thou walkest through 'the fire thou 
shalt not be burned, neither shall the flame kindle 
upon thee." "Fear not, little flock, because it is 
your Father's good pleasure to give you the king- 
dom." "Blessed are they which are persecuted 
for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of 
heaveni" "Upon this rock will I build my church, 
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." 
"God hath chosen the weak things of the world to 
confound the things that are mighty." "Though 
the Lord be high, yet hath he respect unto the 
lowly: but the. proud he kuowelh afar off." 
"Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the sil- 
vej, and the gold broken to pieces together, and 
became like chaff of the summer threshing floors; 
and the wind carried them away, that no place 
was found for them: and the. stone (which was 
cut out without hands) that smote the image be-' 
came a great mountain and filled the whole 
earth," - 

God will save with an everlasting salvation his 
chosen in Christ before the world began, ami cause I 
them eventually, through Christ to triumph over' 
their enemies, and enter into that rest which re-! 
niaineth for the people of God. Although the Al-| 
mighty in the course of his divine providence may ! 
yet cause them to pass through deep water and an- I 
other and yet another fiery trial — although he may i 
yet cause the pavilions of darkness to hang over ! 
them, and lightnings, thuudeMngs and earth- 1 
quakes to be seen and heard and felt it) the dis- 
tance and round about them, yet his thoughts to- 
wards them from everlasting are thoughts of peace ' 
and not of evil; and He will bring them f.irth un- 
scathed — cause them to arise and shine like stars 
in the firmament — to spring up as mown grass and 
as willows by the water courses — to increase and 
spread abroad amongst the mountains, and feed 
upon the green pastures of his love. He will de- 
feat, demolish and bring to nought all t lie machi- 
nations of their enemies, and enable them to sine 
anthems of praise most joyfully unto Him, when 
the knowledge of the Lord shall finally cover the 
earth as the waters do the place of the great deep, 

ind his kingdom extend from sea to sea and from 
the rivers unto the ends of the earl In 

Perhaps at no age of the world, and in no na- 
tion under heaven were ever a people more fully 
confirmed of being built upon the foundation of the 
prophets and apostles— of having remained and 
continued stedfastly in their doctrine, and earnest- 
ly contended for the faith once delivered to the 
saints — of having possession of the sure mercies 
of David and the knowledge of sins forgiven — of 
having a right to the tree of life and an inheritance 
unriefiled, eternal in the heavens, than the Old 
School Baptists of this country; and all this by 
the revelation of Almighty God in his sacred 
word, and by the concurrent testimony of the Holy 
Ghost. And yet there are those who hope for 
their annihilation. Fallacious hope: it will cer- 
tainly perish! C. B. IJ-IXSELL* 


Jephthah and Ephraimites Judges, xii. 
Lo! Ephraim's men o'er Jordan pass, 

And .lephthah thus accost: 
"When thou didst Amnion's army chase, 

And overthrow his bust, 
V\ by didst thou not invite us too, 

'i o share the fate of u ail 
Blight flames shall sweep thy dwelling thro', 

And thee within its dOori" 
The Gileadite calmly replied: 

"V\e had a grievous strife 
With Am uon, and were surely tried: 

In danger of our life, 
Vve cail'd you then with all your hands, 

liii t, ye refused lo come; 
V\ e took our lite in our own hands, 

And went lo war alone. 
The Lord the victory turned for me, 

Ami soon my ihrtatiilug toe, 
Became my prisoner as you bee. 

Aiu\ what were 1 to do? 
V\ by come ye now to me w ilh arms?" 

'] lieu Jephthah called his men; 
And, WHO uie clang of war's alarms, 

The baule raged again. 
Ephraim had called the Gileadites 

Deserters from his camp: 
This adds new force when .lephlha'h smites, 

To check his pride and pomp. 
Ephraim is conquered; and would fain 

Keoross the Jordan home: , 
Lint all such hope or wish is vain. 

He meets a different doom. 
As he without an equal ground, 

Charged others Willi ueoeil., 
Suspicion naturally was found 

'J lial he was its retreat. 
Jephthah the fords of Jordan held;-- 

."Some Ephraimites, escaped 
The general slaughter of lite held, 

Are snil in danger wrapped i 
"Let me go o'er," said ihey in fright, 

".This stream ihatby usrolleth." 



Reply: Art thou aOilondite? 
if so, say now, Shibboleth." 

They try, perhaps, with all their might; — 

Their funeral knell now tolletli, 
And'proves each one an Ephraimite, 

As he exclaims, Sibboleth. 

Their speech betrays them thus downright. 

Why? when the will controlled^ 
No organs hath an EpTiratmite, 

To frame the word Shibboleth. 

And why this word should he prefer, 

To prove his friends and foes'? 
Because it meant, a burden, here, 

And did the truth disclosei 

No burden Ephraim's rest, did break 

In humbling Amnion's pride; 
Hence of no burden he could speak, 

To pass the Jordan's tide. 

He thus desired the victor's crown, 

Without the victor's sweat; 
And fell, a shocking sacrifice 

To avarice, rashness, heat. 

And why this word, again we say? 

What means it? Ear of corn. 
And not an Ephraimite had 1 hoy, 

Whom shocks like this adorn, 

'Twere just that Jephthah then should claim, 

This word before they passed; 
For no unfruitful man should aim 

To seize the laborer's rest. 

Hence when he bids their fruits appear, 

That they should say Shibboleth, 
The poor, the stinted word, we hear, 

Like barrenness, Sibbolcth. 

Toil fills our way from hence to rest, 

And fruit must grow with toil, 
To give the true watchword at last, 

And pass death with a smile. 


Edgecombe, N. C. June, 18 10. 


South Carolina, Edgefield dist 
January 25, 1S40. 
Dear and hei.oved brethren of the 


you are at peace among yourselves. I pray 
that the God of peace will multiply grace, 
mercy and peace upon you, through Jesus 
Christ our Lord, who gave himself for us 
and washed us in his own blood, and made 
us kings and priests unto God and the 

Dear editors, being a poor, ignorant, and 
unlearned man, I never expected to lift 
my pen to say any thing to you; but being 
pressed in mind, 1 shall try to say a few 
things. And being a man that wishes the 
souls of all men eternally well, under the 
above consideration 1 hope you will not 
think me your enemy in so doing. 1 have 

been a reader of your valuable paper, the 
Primitive, two years. It is gall and vine- 
gar to the missionaries, or Arminian Bap- 
lists; but I love it for the truth's sake. It 
appears there are very few of the old or 
apostolic faith in this part of God's vine- 
yard; though it appears there is a plant 
now and then of the Lord's planting. I 
am sorely oppressed, persecuted and revi- 
led, because of my faith, which I believe 
is the gift of God. 1 am called old Law- 
rence's disciple, because I believe the doc- 
trine he advocates. In reading his wri- 
tings, and the writings of many other pre- 
cious brethren, I have been made to shed 
tears and my heart went out to you in love, 
and I was made to say with the poet: 
Here's my heart, and here's my hand, 
To meet you in that promis'd land. 
1 beg leave to tell you three dreams 1 
have dreamed, and the interpretation also, 
as it. his been pleasing to God to show it 
me. I am aware that the missionaries will 
call me a filthy dreamer, but I will tell my 
first which was showed me some time in 
the year 1S32. I thought I was in my 
yard, and I looked to the north and I saw a 
great multitude of black imps over the size 
ol a monkey, stark naked, and they were 
marching in an irregular pace, with a migh- 
ty clash among them. And 1 looked the 
way the imps came, and I saw a lad that 
looked to be seven or eight years old, 
dressed in linen (dean and white, who mar- 
ched a regular pace after the imps. One 
stood by me and I said, who are they? 
And lie said they were the devil's imps or 
workmen; and he said, the lad was Jesus 
Christ. I often thought on my dream, ht't 
it was made manifest to me in 1S39. The 
interpretation thereof, the imps are the dev- 
ifl's ministers in the churches of Christ, and 
Christ has appeared to his true ministers, 
and by that means is driving them out of 
his churches from the North to the South 

Here comes my second dream. I tho't 
one said to me, go with him and he would 
show me a sight. 1 thought he carried me 
upon an exceeding high mountain, and told 
me to look to the east, west, north, and 
south. I looked, and thought I could see 
over the whole world; and I saw fires eve- 
ry way. I said, what did it mean? And 
he said, these were the (ires the missiona- 
ries had kindled in the churches of Christ, 
which is confusion. 

And this is my third dream. I was tra- 
velling and 1 came to a gate, where two 



Ways led oCT; and I saw a woman there, 
and she was in great trouble, sorrow, and 
fear, and cried lo me. And I said, what 
aileth thee? And she pointed lo a mighty 
beast, and I looked and beheld the beast, 
the terri blest beast I ever saw; he was af- 
ter the woman. 1 will give his descrip- 
tion. He was betwixt a lion and a bear, 
of a grisly gray color, with his mouth wide 
open and his terrible great foot lifted up; 
for he had a great foot with great nails in 
il, and eyes of wrath; and the woman fear- 
ed him greatly. Then 1 awakened from 
sleep, and found it was a dream. 1 drop- 
ped into a dose, and the interpretation was 
showed. me. The woman is the true 
church of Jesus Christ, with all her trials, 
troubles, and fears, that she has and will 
have to encounter with, both in church and 
State, because of the beast. The beast that 
1. saw is the missionary system, with all 
the commandments and traditions of men 
and doctrines of devils; which makes a 
grisly beast. And the gate where the two 
Ways led off, is where the Old School and 
New School parted asunder, and his wide 
mouth shows that he blasphemes and pours 
floods of error out of his mouth, that the 
woman may be destfoyed thereby. And 
his great foot lifted up shows he has power 
somewhere, and is seeking law power 

1 beg all of you to pray God that he 
would keep us from the power of the beast, 
if consistent with his will. I subscribe 
myself one of the laity, in hope of eternal 
life, which God that cannot lie promised to 
Us before the world began. 

J. W. DOVE. 


Georgia-, Talbot, county, ~) 
March 10/A, 1S-10. $ 

Dear and much esteemed brethren 
In our covenant head: 1 once more 
write a short epistle in order lo inform you, 
that in reading a little of the notions of 
men, or what is called church history, 1 
have found that the Baptists have been a 
peculiar, few and despised people, all the 
while; which you will sec in the following 
extract from historians who were oppos- 
ed to the Baptists. This 1 do to show that 
iheir rock is not as our rock, our enemies 
themselves being judges. 

And first I may observe, that the reli- 

?;ious seel called Baptists, have caused the 
earned world more perplexity and research 

to decyphcr their origin, Ihaii all the other 
sects; and it is admitted, that the origin 
of the Baptists, cannot be found any where 
short of Jordan or Enon. To this fact Ur. 
Mosheim bears the following testimony; 
first, that there origin is hid in the remote 
depths of antiquity, and is of consequence 
very difficult to be ascertained. Now it 
is evident that the Dr. either knew not 
their origin, or was not candid enough 
to confess it. At least he could find 
their origin no where short of the apos- 

2nd, the Hussites, Wickliffites, PetrobrUs- 
sians and • Waldenses the Dr. says, were 
all Baptists. Those lived in the twelfth, 
fourteenth, and fifteenth centuries. And 
that they were usually considered asi 
witnesses of the truth, in times of univer- 
sal darkness and superstition. And further- 
more, that before the rise of Luther and Cal- 
vin, there were in several countries in Eu- 
rope, many persons who adhered tenaci- 
ously to the following sentiments, or a9 
the Dr. terms them doctrines; which the 
Waldenses and the other sects above na- 
med maintained, viz: that the kingdom of 
Christ, or the visible church he had estab- 
lished upon earth, was an assembly of Irue 
and real saints, and ought therefore, to be 
inacccsible to the wicked and unrighteous} 
and also exempt from all those institutions, 
which human prudence suggests to oppose 
the progress of iniquity, or lo correct and 
reform transgressors. 

Now, brethren, let it no more be said 
to us, by the nevv fangled Baptists, that 
they hold the sentiments of the Primitive 
Baptists, or Menonites, and that we have 
set up a new standard of fellowship. For 
ours differs nothing from the above doc- 
trine of the Waldenses, in the twelfth cen- 
tury. And the Dr. further says, that they 
would not receive into their communion 
any person who came over to their faith, 
who had been sprinkled, or as he has it, 
baptized in their infantile state, or in any 
other state except they were believers or 
adults, and real saints. And is this not 
our practice? In consequence of their pe- 
culiar notion, they were unpopular; and 
so it is with us. As to the above account, 
I will add the sayings of one of the popish 
writers. President Edwards says in his 
History of Redemption, (as he calls it,) 
speaking of the Waldenses, that theirs is 
the oldest heresy in the world. And he 
further says, that they can be traced to the- 
I apostolic age. 



Now, brethren, wluro is (lie sect ftial 
can find tliere origin as far back, as is ae 
k no wl edged in the above statements of our 

enemies, who called our principles here- 
sy. Now g 1 ) lo the Book, ami (here yon 
may find the origin of the Baptists, and 
bow they got the name. .John the Baptist 
was named in heaven, and an angel or mes- 
senger came and brought il toetrth. And 
the Baptists never have been esteemed 
highly hy I he self-styled disciples of Christ. 
A man may say be has faith, and another 
may say he has works; but says ihe word, 
show me your faith without your works, 
and I will show you my faifh by my 
works. And Jesus says, if ye love me 
keep my commandments, &c. 

I am done for the present, as my light 
lias failed. Yours in hope of 'eternal glory. 


Barbour county, Alabama, ? 
May At-h, IS40. *> 

Deah brethren Editors: 1 have ta- 
ken my pen in ham! to try to .'end you 
our remittance, for the purpose of defray- 
ing the expense of your valuable little pa- 
per the Primitive Baptist, which we re- 
ceive tolerably regular- For which we 
feel thankful, that the Lord has been plea- 
sed to put it into the hearts of his dear chil- 
dren thus lo have the chance to communi- 
cate to each other their love and friendship 
towards each other; and their troubles and 
distresses, and hard trials whilst here be- 

Dear brethren, I must come to a close by 
subscribing myself yours in the bonds of 
affliction. Farewell. 



Alabama, Pickens county, ) 
April 1th, 1840.' S 

To the elect of God, which is the body 
of Christ, the church, who are the called 
according to his purpose. Grace unto you 
and peace be multiplied. 

I again take my pen in band to let you 
know, something of the movements of Ihe 
people of our country. We have a varie- 
ty of sorts of people in our part of the 
State; the old fashioned, predc^inarian 
Baptists, in this as well as in other parts, 
seem to be the little despised lew. And 
the reason that we are despised is, because 

we will not take up with nil the new Wm* 
gled schemes of the day, and be shifted 
md turned about with every wind of doc- 
trine and cunning craftiness, whereby they 
lie in wait to deceive, and will not bow 
the knee to the image of Baal. (Missions.) 

I will now answer the request of brother 
David Smith, of the Ebenezer Association. 
The Pilgrim's Rest Association, to which 
1 have the honor to be a member, has 
twelve churches and four ordained minis- 
ters; who God bfingvvtth them, are witling 
Lo hoar the persecution, and reproach, and 
stigma, that may be thrown upon them by 
those Ishmaeliies and Ashdodites. that are 
always prowling round them. I am per- 
suaded that they have something of the 
hardihood of old Elijah, when be was sur- 
rounded by the eight hundred and fifty 
false prophets; and are, as Paul was, deter- 
mined not to shun, to declare the whole 
council of God, agreeably to the light and 
liberty afforded us. We have also two li- 
censed ministers. When we meet in our 
conferences, we get along smoothly and 
even, to what we did when mixed wiih 
those money hunters; for then it was trou- 
ble and confusion, but now, peace, harmo- 
ny and love. And we hope that we. are 
governed by the author of peace, in proof 
of which we have it to say that, that dove- 
like spirit of peace which sjiould always 
pervade Christian assemblies, seems to be 
with us, for which we should thank our 
heavenly guide. And say, from our own 
experience, to those of the old fashioned 
Baptists who are yet mixed with those 
Arminian missionary men, Come out from 
them and be ye separate, and show your- 
j selves like good soldiers of the cross. 
! We might say many things of the strange 
i courses arc taken in our country by 
the New School folks; but I will forbear 
at the present, only to say, that they show 
a tyrannical spirit in their course of deal- 
ing with those who are in their churches, 
who cannot bow or go with their effort 
measures, and who, from a sense of their 
duty desire to leave them, and join a church 
of their order. There was a beloved sister 
of the old sort of Baptists, who had got in- 
to a church of the New School folks, not 
being apprised of their order; and on find- 
ing them out, she was not satisfied to stay 
with them, and applied for a letter of dis- 
mission; and on being asked, she told them 
that she wanted to join the church to 
which I belong. And they (the missiona- 
ries,) refused lo grant it, and she came and 



told us her silunlion and desires, on which 
we received her. They then 1o vent their 
spite, have as they sa) r , withdrawn from 
her. But I would say, that she had obeyed 
the voice of inspiration, COME OUT OF 
HER, MY PEOPLE. And now, to the 
candid reader, is it not a vicious, over- 
bearing, tyrannical spirit, that would cause 
them to try to hold a person in their 
church, who is not willing to stay with 
them? I say that it is nothing else. 

We might give several other instances of 
the same kind, but come to a close, hoping 
to write again shortly, I subscribe my- 
self as ever, your friend and brother at the 
old corner post. 



Georgia, Troup county, ~) 
Feb. S/h, 1S40. S 
Dear Editors: ! have received the pa- 
per fiat you publish, the Primitive Bap- 
tist, sometime with pleasure; and I wish 
its success until it spreads its light over the 
Union, or one similar to it, until all the 
dear lambs of God see where they have 
plunged themselves, by intermarriage into 
all the new fancied doctrines that gender 
strife by their offspring; and then take the 
advice first laid down in the Primitive, 
that is, COME OUT OF HER, MY 
PEOPLE. Yours in love. 



Georgia, Sumter conn ly, 
May 4th, 1840. 

Dear brethren Editors: I will state 
to you, that I exactly concur in opinion 
with brother Whatley, as to the hard say- 
ings of my Primitive brethren through the 
Primitive Baptist. I do think that there 
are too many hard sayings and harsh words 
used in the writings of a great many of the 
Primitive brethren, when more soft and 
milder words would answer the same pur- 
pose, and a great deal more good done. 

I think we ought to bear the sayings and 
persecutions of the missionaries as well as 
we can, and that without any wrong on our 
part; because they say hard things of us, 
it is no reason that we should say any thing 
wrong to rebut it. 

So nothing more at present, but claim 
an interest in your pravers. 



North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Willi '.am/if on, 
R. M. G. Moore, Gcrmanlon. W. w. Mizell, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Sw'mdeU, Washing/on, James Sou - 
therland, Warrenlon. Charles Mason, Boxboo'r. 
James Wilder, •Anderson's More, Benj. Bynum, 
Speight's Bridge. H. A vera, Averusboro' . Ji H. 
Keneday, Chalk Leve). B unveil Temple, Wuheco. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leaksvilk. Wmi H. Vann, 
//OHg- Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagdey, Smithfie\d. 
■ James H. Sasser, Waynesboro" 1 '. John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B, Bennett, Heathville. Alfred VA- 
Y\s, Strabane, Cor's Canaday, Cravensvil/e. Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott 7 a Creek, J. Lamb, Camden 
C. Hi A, B. Bains, Fr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, PtrweWs Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
Francis Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 
kerson, West Point. Isaac Alderman, Moore's Crcek% 
James Miller, Milton Park. 

South Carolina. — Wm. Hardy, Saluda JJillt 
James Hembree, Sen. Anderson C. H. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. B, Lawrence, Effingham, 
James Burris, Sen Bold Spring. William S. 
Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackville. An- 
drew Westmoreland, Cashville. James Ji Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Branch. Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers, CrowsviWe, Marshal Mc- 
Graw, Brown's. John Lr Simpson, Cookham's. 

Georgia. — William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, McDnnough. John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Ilolloway, Lagrange. P.M.Cal- 
houn, Knoxcille. R. Reese, Eatonton. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Patman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Necl,- James Hoi lings worth and Stephen 
Cnstellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
Bowdoiri, .ddairsville. R. Toler and .las. M. Rock- 
more, Upaloie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. John Gny dan, Franklin. P. 
H. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, Thom- 
aston. William Bowden, Union Valley. EzraMc- 
Crary, Warrenton. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. John Lassetter, Yembn. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Peacock, Cassville. V, D. Whatley, Barnesvi/le. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, Mount Morne. 
EliasO. Hawthorn, Bainbridgt. J.G.Wintring- 
ham, Florence. William Mi Amos, GreeneiWe. 
Randolph Arnold, Latimer , s Store. Thomas .L 
Bazemore, Clinton. Josiah Stovasll, AquiWa. G. 
P.Cannon, CuWodeivrille, Jason Grier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. \TcElvy, Altapulgus. Furna Ivey, 
Milled geville. Wm. Garrett, Cotton River. Jesse 
Moore, George Herndon and John Hardie, Trwin- 
ton. Leonard Pratt, Whitesville. Edward Jones, 
Decatur. Israel Hendon, Shi]o. Robert B.Mann. 
Chesnut Grove. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove, 
John Lawhon, Chenuba. John Herington, Wel- 
born's Mills, James P. Ellis, PineviWe, F. Hag- 
gard, Athens. Hi Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Valley, Josiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
O'Neel, Fowlton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro', 
J.B. Morgan &,.B,P,Rouse, Friendship, Sam'l Wil- 
liams, fair Play, John wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hootensville. R. S. Hamrick, Currolllon. 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, B\ake\y, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r< 



1}ir*iys»Aic, John Stroud, KenduTX, James Scar- 
borough, Statesbprcugh, Young '1\ Standifer, 
Mulberry Grove, Robert If. Thompson, Centre- 
vifle. YoungTi Star.difer, Mulberry Grove, .la- 
ted Johnson, Troupville. Kindred Braswcll, 
JJuncansvi/le. Edmund Si Chambless, diallings 
Store. James w. Walker, Marlborough'. Edmund 
Bmmas, JohnstonviWe. David Rowell, Jr. Groa 
tcrsviUc. Joel Colley, Covington, Benjamin C 
Burns, Vi\\a Mean David Jones, 'PraveWer's Rest. 

Alabama. — L.B. Mrjseley, Cuhajjoba. A. Kea- 
ton, McConico. John Blackstone, La Fayette. W. 
W. Carlisle, Frcdonia. Henry Dance, D'artiePs 
Prairie. Wm. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dati'l 
Gafford, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow Hill. 
John €fi Walker, Miltod,. Henry Williams, //</- 
Vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron. James 
Daniel, Claibm-ne, Elias Daniel, Church Hill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David .1 Tdhnston;' Leighton. 
Adam McCreary, Brooklyn. Josjah Jones. Jack- 
Son. David Jacks, New Market. Sherrod w 
Harris, Vienna,. John McQueen, Graven'' Ferry, 
"William Talley, Mount Moriah, Graddy Her. 
ring, Clayton. Gi vv. Jeter, Pint Lulu, Samuel 
C. Johnson, Pliasant Grove. Win.Cruteher,/7i;;(/.s- 
tille. With ID Cook and H'y Petty, Pickensville. 
Seaborn Hamrick, P/anlersvi/le. William Mel- 
ton, Bluff Port. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Win. 
Hyde,- Gainesville, Eufus Daniel, Jameston, An- 
derson w. Bullard, Tusgegee, Frederick Hines- 
Gaston, 7„.\o\ii\9<Tiaru, Eli McDonald, Painsville. 
Wm. Powell, Youngsvi]\e. John Brown, Wacboca, 
Silas Monk) Horse Shoe Bendy R. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville' David Treadwell 
find R.w. Carl isle,. Mount Hickory. Sam'l T.Owen, 
Argus, Joseph M.Holloway; H*izte Green. Luke 
R. Simmons, 'Proy. Jesse Lee, Farmersvi/le, 
William S. Armstrong, LoubviLle. Mark Porter, 
Dcmopolis, Henry Ada msi Mount Willing. Joel 
Hi Chambless, Lowsville. Elliot Thomas, IVil- 
iiamston. F. Pickett, China Grove, James Grum- 
bles, Benton. John M. Pearson, DadeviWe. W. 
J. Sorelle, W'et.umpka, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville! Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, Suukechatchie. James Searcy, Invhilon. 
Hazael Littlefield, Ten Islands. John vv. Pellum, 
FranVYul. Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. Di Cooper, Wil- 
liamsfon. John Harrell, Missouri. James K. 
Jacks, Elitoii. Henry Billiard, BeWville. John 
A. Miller, James Mays and James McCreless, 
Ockfuskce. Durham Kelly, Alexandria, Josiah 
M. Landerdale, Athens, William Thomas, Pros- 
pect Midge. John Bishop, Jurt'r. Groe/cetlsville. 
James Gray, Case/a. Thomas L. Roberts, Mou- 
rueviWc. Morgan Howard, Cenlreville. 

Tennksskk. — A. V .Yunner, Blaii-'s Ferry. Mi- 
chael Barkhalter, Ohcehville, Tho's K. Clingan, 
Smith's W Roads, W.E'.Pop'e, Philadelphia. Aaron 
Compton, Somcrville. Charles Henderson, Emmery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, Meesville. James 
Maulden, Van Burcn. A. Burroughs, W'V.s/i//. Wm. 
Oroom, Jackson < Sion Bass,77//i e Forks, John w. 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough,. /</</.'* 
Creek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Ish-am 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Scvierville. 
Thos. B,YeateB,LyneJj.bito-g, C.T. Echols, Mijjliu. 
Aaron Tison, Medou. Levi Kirkland and George 
Turner, Waver/y. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Snodi/sville. Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
S*5 Roads. Ji Cooler, Unionville. Michael Bran- 

son, Long Savannah. Jasi TL Tlnfloway, lhize\ 
Green, William MeBoe, Old Town Crccki Ben*' 
fauiiii w. Harget, Chcrryville, Robert Gregory, 
Caroul/i ■ s X Roads. John Scallorn, Slnaly Grova 

Mississippi,. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Springs. 
Worshani Mann Columbus. W'm. Huddfeston,7%w- 
inuston. Nathan Tima, Kosciusko. .lona.D. Cain* 
li'alerford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 
Hodges, Cotton Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris, 
Wheeling: Simpscm Parks, Lockliarfs Store, 
Mark Prewett, Aberdeen, Writ. Ririgo,- ftammtpii 
.lames Mi Wilcox, Loiiisville. Edm'd Beeman 
and Thomas Hi Dixon, Macon. John Erwin, 
Linkhornc, Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis, Houston. Eli Miller and Micajalj 
Crenshaw, Marion. Win.H Warren, PJelralb. C. 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Woolen Hill, COoKspmet 
William Clark, Marion. 

Florida, — James Alderman and Pi Blount* 
China Hill. David Callaway, Cherry Lake. Joint 
F. flagfirt, Monliee\lo. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, MarburyviWc. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro' . Uriah Stevens,- 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson. 

Illinois. — Richard M. Newport, Grand View 1 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nelson. 

Indiana. — Peter Sal l.zmnn, New Harmony. I- 
saac Wi Denrnan, GaWalin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Philanthropy. John 
B. Moses, German/on, 

Kentucky. — Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, ConieliusviWc. Levi Lancaster^ 

Virginia. — Kemuel C. Gilbert, SydnorsviUc. 
Rudolph Rorer, Berger's Store. John Clark, Fre- 
dericksburg. Wm. w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifax Ct IT, George w. Sanford, 
Harrisonburg. Jesse, Lankford, Bowers's, Eli- 
jah FTansbrough, SomereiUe. Wilson Davenport, 
While House. Arthur w. Eanes, EdgehiW, James 
B. Collins, Burnt Chimneys. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezckiah West, South I/i]\, 
Joseph Hughes, Gum Tree. Nathan Everilt, 
Cliillieoals Town. 

NeW York. — Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 

Massachusetts. — James Osbourn, W'oburni 

Wm. S. Shaw, jgl 
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Wm. Moss, 1 


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VOL. 5. 

SATURDAY, JUNE 27, 1810, 

No. 12. 


he. To be plain in point, Free Agency is 
a wrong name; the right of it is Free Willi 
For some have changed the name for 
a blind; like Banyan in the holy war, 
changed the name of Covetousness into the 
name Prudent Thrifty. Therefore I have 
thought proper to leave out the letter t, he- 
cause the word agent, does not belong id 
this place. And why I gave him the title 
of Major General is, the will of man com- 
mands the whole mind, but there is one 
that commands the will. And in the natu- 
ral man, the devil is the commander iri 
chief. Therefore the free will, or Free 
Ageucy, only acts as an officer under him. 
This Free Agency so called, is a son of 
one Self Conceit by a much adored lovely 
girl Self Ability. The whole family live 
in the town of total depravity, il rider the 

Barnwell District, So. Carolina, ~) 
May 30th, 1840. $ 
My dearly beloved Brethren: 
Through the never-ending mercies of God, 
I arri yet alive, and remain on the stage of 
action; but not very well in health, but 
thank God that it is not worse. I have 
iiow enclosed my writing mentioned be- 
fore, which I want put in your papers. 

There are some churches in Beaufort 
district; weary of these money beggars, 
and wish to be where they could hear 
Something about redeeming grace and the 
value of a Jesus Christ to the believing 
soul, and not money and education. • Go 
on; my dear Primitive Baptist brethren, , , , 

in the blessings of God, he will make our \™&°[ sm i , Sf^J^^SS fB^l ° f 
day to shine bright 

Galatians, arid particularly the 17th verse: 
And Free Agency so called is the will of 
the flesh, (the flesh is contrary to the spi- 
rit Grace, and the spirit is contrary to the 
flesh,) therefore cannot agree together. 

Grace resides in another kingdom far 

different from this, where Free Agency 

Grace is a mighty sovereign in a 


1 am your affectionate brother in love. 

FREE AGENCY. A Major General. 
FREE GRACE. A Sovereign. 
in respect to the following argument 
{(gainst* and for the saints' final perseve- 1 kingdom of love, peace, and joy eternal; 
rarice: it is to show the difference between where there is no change, nor end. Grace's 
the two champions, in religion. To show I sovereignty is founded on truth and mor- 
on which of the two, sinners may mostly I cy, his courts are justice and equity, and 
depend for promises of rewards and happi- 1 the -habitation of his throne is justice and 
riess in futurity: Free Agency, or Free judgment, ami mercy and truth are before 
Grace. One, or the other, you must tie- | his face. Psalms, SO. 14. And he acts as 

pend on; you cannot depend on both 
they cannot agree together. To know 
them apart, and separately, and that they 
cannot agree together, is to make the fol- 
lowing description of each; who they are, 
and what they do. 

First, we will undertake to show who 
this Free Agency is, or what it is said to 

the free and sovereign choice of Almighty 
God. None can control him, but he con- 
trols all, above and below. 

From the term Free Agency, man looks 
for help when he wants it, but to his disap- 
pointment finds none. Man must do all 
he can, and then is charged with not doing 
enough! Free Agency promises much, and 



gives nothing; and if you are in distress 
you may stay there, he will not help, nor 
deliver you out of it; nor give you any 
ease or comfort. 

Grace acts to the reverse of this. Grace 
looks to the poor and needy, helpeth them, 
Comforteth the mourner, and giveth conso- 
lation to the afflicted and distressed; help- 
eth the helpless, worketh in them every 
duty enjoined, and then rewarde^h them 
for doing. So experience tcacheth a 
great difference hetween the two, anil that 
they have no connection together; and in 
no shape whatever agree together, but are 

Arminius gives us the idea of free will, 
now called Free Agency. God made man 
upright, and constituted a law suitable to 
his ability. Man violated this law, was for 
his act of disobedience turned out of his fa- 
vor. Then Jesus Christ the Son of God, 
came into this world and made a universal 
redemption, and went away, and left the 
man to work out his own salvation upon 
this work of redemption. God then chan- 
ged this law, and constituted a new law, 
that sinful depraved man by reformation 
and acknowledging his sin might find ac- 
cess before God, and what is called good 
works is acceptable to God. And when 
our father Adam was restored to the favor 
of God, all his children were restored with 
him, and possessed a power to act their 
own free will at pleasure. This we now 
understand is meant by Free Agency, and 
that being free to have their own choice in 
acting their will, that man can of himself 
turn to the Lord and be saved, or turn to 
the devil and be damned. Therefore, the 
word is, choose this day whom j'ou will 
serve, God or the devil; for you have your 
choice. They answered, give us Barrab- 

Not so with Grace, for grace wisely de- 
vised a sure foundation of hope; Jesus 
Christ is the foundation of every believer. 
Therefore, when God looked down on the 
children of men to see if there were any 
that did good, he said that there were none 
that did good; no, not one. Psalms, 14. 
They were viewed a self-destroyed race. 
Hosea, 13. 9. Their thoughts and imagi- 
nation were only evil, and that continually. 
Genesis, 6. 5. Their hearts very wicked 
and deceitful. Jeremiah, 17. 9. This cor- 
rupted degeneracy sprang from Adam, 
runs through his posterity, and is in infants 
as in adults. Psalms, 51. 5. 6. And arc 
by nature the children of wrath. Ephesi- 1 

ans, 9. 3. Children of the deviL Si Joh'nV 
S. 44. Children of disobedience, cursed! 
children. 2 Peter, 2. 14. God put no trust 
in his saints, and has charged angels with 
lolly. And man cannot trust himself, but 
has put his trust in another for protection, 
ami direction. Jeremiah, 10. 23. If these: 
scriptures are true, where is your Free A- 
gency? All folly. 

Grace now reigns for good. Jesus Christ 
the Son of God, viewed his church in th'r9 
ruined and helpless situation, overwhelm- 
ed in sin, woe, and misery! Ezekiel, 16. 
1 — 15. And he of his love, and regard, 
! and free will, freely offered into this court 
of heaven, for the redemption, sanotifica- 
tion, restoration, and salvation of his bride 
the church. The court of heaven accept- 
ed his proposals and council. First, he 
Finked divine nature to human nature, by 
uniting the godhead to the manhood. Sec- 
ond, suffering in human nature what yotf 
and I ought to have suffered. 

Jesus Christ gave his body for the body 
of his church, his soul for her soul, his 
blood for her blood, his life for her life. 
Thus redeemed her to God. (This is a parti- 
cular redemption.) For the justification 
of his redemption, God raised him from the" 
dead to die no more. Romans, 6. 9. 
Therefore Christ possesses eternal life. 
That body being raised from the dead, wsfs 
received into heaven, the heitveniy court 
satisfactory, and seated at the right hand of 
God, the majesty on high. Hebrews, 1.3*. 
Thus Jesus bought her with a price. Ho- 
sea, 3. 3. At the reception of this body of 
human nature and all power given unto it, 
it was made head over all things unto the 
church, (the Christian church. ) ; The Ho- 
ly Ghost receiving this power, descended 
to reprove the world of sin, righteousness, 
and judgment. St. John, 16. S. This spi- 
rit ojf-God in Christ, is^the spirit of grace 1 
which Is sent, sent of the Father & Son into 
the world, to gather together his elect, that 
shall Ire heirs of salvation. The redeemed 
of the Lord Christ. . The church in one- 
ness fitted and neatly joined together in 
love; as a bride adorned for her husband,- 
the Lord Christ. 

We will now come to make inquiry into' 
their different dealings with the children; 
of men. Arminius says, every man i<s a- 
free agent; that is, have power to act theiir 
own will. But we will search the Bible, 
to see if he tells the truth. First, we will 
look into the case of Lnban and Jacob. La- 
ban followed Jacob with a determined will 



to kill Jacob, and carry his daughters, their 
children, and property, back home. Bui 
Grace reigned to disappoint him. Laban 
was disappointed, and Jacob saved. Grace 
knew when Laban would overtake Jacob; 
and appeared to Laban, told him to say no- 
thing to Jacob out of the way, Laban had 
no god but Free Agency, for Rachel had 
stole his other god. But none could steal 
Jacob's God of Grace. So Laban's god 
deceived him, but Jacob's God did protect 
him. Genesis, 31 chap. 

Secondly, the case of Joseph and his 
brethren. Free Agency urged Jacob's 
sons lo kill Joseph, ihey were determined 
in will to do so! But Free Grace disap- 
pointed them, and saved Joseph. Read 
in Genesis the whole of their actions. 

Thirdly, the case of king Saul and Da- 
vid. How violently Free Agency work- 
ed in Saul lo kill David; but Free Grace 
reigned for the salvation of David, and to 
bring Saul and Free Agency into disap- 
pointment and confusion. Read the first 
book of Samuel. 

Fourthly, the case of Haman and Mor- 
tlecai. Haman under the influence of Free 
Agency, built a gallows fifty cubits high to 
hang Mordecai on, determined in free will 
to do so! Went to the king for leave. 
But Free Grace overruled the whole. 
Mordecai was saved, and. Haman disap- 
pointed and was hanged on the same gal- 
lows by order of the king. Read all the 
book of Esther. You see that Free Agen- 
cy saves, nor comfoiteth none; but leadeth 
them under him to disappointment and 

But Free Grace saveth them that are un- 
der his care, and bringeth them to joy and 
liberty, and giveth them a good day. And 
to, and under the care of Free Grace of 
our Lord Jesus Christ, I commend all my 

We will say something of their power, 
they are great, but the power of Free 
Grace is the greatest. But if all men are 
free agents, we need not mention every 
man. King Saul was a free agent, and his 
free a gen cy was to disobey God, and act 
foolishly: and it run him from the God of 
grace, to a witch of Endor, who declared 
his death; and pushed him on his own 
sword, which proved his ruin. King Da- 
vid who succeeded in office, he was a free 
agent, and this agency run him to the 
wife of Uriah, and to have that faithful 
soldier put to death! And would have 
proved David's ruin. But Free Grace 

took him away from Free Agency, and sa- 
ved his life. For Grace said to him, he 
should not die; for the Lord had taken 
away his sin, and buried it in oblivion: but 
the child should die! Here the friends of 
Free Agency complain and cry out injus- 
tice, for the innocent to suffer for the guil- 
ty, the child could not help what the fath- 
er did, (horrid.) You that say so, look to 
Mount Calvary, and weep. Free Grace 
does not care how much you quarrel with 
him, for he will bring them and their Ge- 
neral Free Agency both to bow to his 
reign of justice, and acknowledge him the 
rightful sovereign, and perhaps when it 
will be too late! 

The apostle Judas was a free agent; he 
had power to act his will, and his free will 
was to go to Jesus to carry the bag, (many 
do the same to this day;) and the bag he 
did carry. But his free agency was to get 
more into it, than what was in it: And 
when he was frowned on for wanting three 
hundred pence more in his bag, Free A- 
gency put into his heart to go to the chief 
priest and sell his master for thirty pieces 
of silver. This was his free will, and then 
to deceitfully come and betray his master 
into the hands of his enemies. Then Free 
Agency turned him against it, and made 
him throw it away. So Judas done all 
this for nothing but his own ruin of soul 
and body. 

The apostle Peter was another free agent; 
His free agency made him declare he 
would die, or go into prison, before he 
would deny his master; but in a little time 
after, by an accusation of a servant girl, his 
free agency deceived him, and made Peter 
deny his master,' and at last made him 
curse and swear he knew nothing of him. 
Thus was Free Agency carrying Peter in- 
to ruin. But Free Grace stood looking 
on, stepped forward and took Peter away 
from this old deceitful fellow Free Agen- 
cy, and his master Jesus looked at him, and 
brought Peter to himself, and to remember 
what he had done; filled him with grief 
and conviction of error, that Peter wept 
bitterly. And Grace granted him repent- 
ance for his folly, and restored him to fa- 
vor again. Grace is a mighty sovereign, 
he doeth what scemeth him good. He did 
not meddle with Judas, therefore Free A- 
gency proved his ruin, when there was 
none to save! But Grace saved Peter from 
his ruin, that Free Agency was leading 
him to. Thcrefoie grace is to be praised. 
Ephcsians, 1. 6. 



Now, who will or can deny that the de- 
vil himself is a free agent; for the de- 
vil had power to act his will, and his will 
he did do. You say, what was the will of 
the devil? Answer, the will of the dev,i,l 
was to kill the Lord of life and glory, and 
kill him he did. And from that to perse- 
Cute all his humble followers, and that to 
death. All these things the devil done 
through his free agency so called, and that 
for his own aggravation, and confusion, for 
murdering Jesus was his final overthrow. 
And persecuting- hi3 humble followers of 
Jesus and that to death, made them run to 
the Gentiles for refuge. That was as God 
would have it, for Grace designed the sal- 
vation of the Gentiles. Thus when these 
poor persecuted disciples of Jesus preached 
to the Gentiles, the gospel of God the way 
of life and salvation through the grace of 
Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they 
believed the word pleached to them, 'and 
were sared. 

Free Grace reigns to the salvation of the 
believer, and givcth that faith to enable 
them to believe the saving of the soul. He- 
Brews, 10. 39. Ephesians, 2. 8, 9. But 
your boasted Free Agency reigns for your 
iuin in death and damnation. J have brief- 
ly but very imperfectly showed you the 
difference of what is called Free Agency 
artel Free Grace. They did. not originate 
from one source, they never did agree, nor 
dwell together. Their dealings with the 
children of men are different, and their de- 
signs in the end are far different. For 
your Free Agency designs nothing but ru- 
in, death, and hell fire!!! But the Free 
Grace of God designs salvation from sin, 
death and hell, and doth deliver, and safe- 
ly conveys the soul to heaven and happi- 
ness eternal. 

My dear reader. No doubt bat your 
heart riseth against this argument, because 
your free will, while degenerate, is denied 
its power to act for favor, when it is desi- 
rable. We might as well sit down and do 
nothing, as to do any thing, and obtain no- 
thing for our labor. (Well, what hath the 
devil given you, for your lifetime of labor 
viV his service?) Your argument is contra- 
ry i& scripture. For k is not him that 
saith, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the 
kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the 
will of my Father which is in heaven. St. 
Matthew, 7. 21. Free Agency wants you 
to do your own will. But Free Grace de- 
nieth that, and teaches you to do the will 
of God, and understand what the will of 

God is; that Grace will teach and hclpyot? 
to do. Free Grace hath within itself a full 
sufficiency: therefore despise th assistance, 
it will do all, or do nothing at all. Grace' 
changeth the will of man in regeneration. 
The will of man is" freed from old agency, 
and becomes willing, under the powerful 
reign of grace to do the will of God. 
Psalms, 110. 3. This made Jesus say to' 
Nicodemus, you must be born again, or 
not see the kingdom of God. For with 
this regeneration we are brought to see it. 
Without it you know not what it is, and if 
you never see it, ycti will never enter it. 
Free Agency will not, nor cannot do this 
work for you. But Grace doelh this in- 
ternal work, enlighteneth the understand- 
ing to see the kingdom of God, and re- 
crealeth a fervor of desire to enter it, as? 
Grace is willing to give it (not sell it. ^ 
Therefore I earnestly exhort you to ear- 
nestly p-ray to the God of all Grace to deli- 
ver you from this notion of Free Agency? 
and translate you into his kingdom of 
sovereign Free Grace. And make you an 
heir of his Free Grace through the redemp- 
tion of his Son Jesus Christ, and make you 1 
mete for the inheritance of saints in light, 
incorruptible, and eternal, that fadelh not 
away, is the prayer of your unworthy ser- 
vant in grace. Remembering this Free 
Agency is like Dagon, the god of the Phi- 
listines, that when the ark of God or his' 
Grace was put with it, it fell and brake. 
So when Grace comes into the heart, A- 
gency falls before it and is broken. 1 Sam- 
uel, 5. 1 — 5. That Grace shall reign en- 
tirely for your eternal good. Even so. 


Georgia, Hall coimly, >' 
SprilAth, 1S40. y 

Dear brethren in Christ: 1 embrace 
this opportunity to inform you, that 1 am' 
yet blest with the privilege of hearing from' 
you through the medium of the Primitive,' 
which is contending for the faith once de- 
livcred'to the saints. And, my brethren 
here who read the Primitive, are well 
pleased with the communications they con- 
tain, and do hope it may be so blest of God 
as to do much good to the confirming the 
little dock of God, and convincing the' 
institution folks of the much discord and 
distress they have sown in the churches. 

Brethren, we have a considerable num- 
ber in the Chattahoochee Association who* 


*pp*aT to think highly of the institutions; 1 
but I think they love the money more, 
which to love, we are told, is the root of 
■evil- But, brethren, the money is failing 
Siere and the Lord knoweth what the insti- 
tution people will do, for 1 do not; but I 
think they must seek t© something else for 
a living. 

These missionary people here are do- 
ling and saying much against our Primitive, 
and had raiher receive a dollar than volumes 
of it. Brethren, they have used stratagems 
to enlist your unworthy friend, one of 
which I will relate. At our last Associa- 
tion in October last, we voted out all the do- 
mestic missionary operations from the Asso- 
ciation, which left thirty odd dollars in the 
hands of a committee appointed to arrange 
that business;; which they returned back to : 
the Association, who distributed amongst 
lier ministers and churches as she thought, 
proper, of which she voted ten dollars to 
snyself. And sonic of the missionaries 
objected, and then I refused to receive it. 
But my brethren had voted it to me by a 
majorkv, and still insisted I should receive 
it; which I did, just as 1 do what any broth- 
er or sister pleases to hand me. And now 
some of the missionaries are saying this 
was for services rendered. But, brethren, 
the Lord does know, and 1 inlend in 
truth to let all that will read the Primitive 
know, that I never was one day, no nor one 
•hour, no not one minute in the employ- 
ment of no •convention or missionary com- 
mittee whatever; nor I never have united 
with none of the institutions of the day, 
called benevolent, nor 1 cannot nor I will 
not speak in favor of them until 1 find a 
thus saith the Lord for them in the word; 
but I have not found it yet. And I wish 
sail who love to circulate such a report of 
me to remember, that it is said, all liars 
shall have their part in the lake that burns 
with fire & brimstone. may God give them 
repentance, and save them from their sins. 

But, brethren, I must tell you some of the 
conduct of one of these fine missionary 
fops. After agreeing to serve a church the 
year 1839, in March he went begging and 
fleeced them tolerably close, and lied and 
saw them no more until October. Poor 
chilly, starved lambs, sheared in March 
and then not fed until Oelober; and then 
with a little soft Arminian doctrine, such 
as a lamb of grace would never growan inch 
on. So 1 close by subscribing myself yours 
in the bonds of love. 



State of Alabama, Dallas county. 
Brethren Editors: Believing it to 
be our duty te inform you, and our breth* 
rcn generally through your columns, of the 
distressing scenes we have had to pass 
through; because we would not forsake 
the good old gospel track, and unite with 
those who follow the new, unseriptural in- 
ventions of men. And as false reports and 
publications are circulating against the 
church to which we belong, (to wit:) Con- 
eord; we will therefore give a brief detail, 
of some of the most prominent circum- 
stances connected therewith. Not that we 
wish to injure the feelings or reputation of 
any person; but to justify the church in 
her proceedings, aad expose false publica- 

Concord church had for several years 
been a member of the Alabama Associa- 
tion, and would have remained so till now, 
had not that Association united herself 
wiih those institutions, which esteeming 
mouey as the chief good, make void the 
law of God, and follow the traditions of 
men. This caused a split in the Associa- 
tion, in October 1838, at which time four- 
teen churches broke off, and were consti- 
tuted into an Association on the original or 
Primitive plan. At our conference in 
July last, the time having arrived for choos- 
ing delegates to send to the Association, 
neutrality was now no longer possible; the 
ehureh was compelled to uniie with, or 
withdraw from, the missionary institutions. 
Believing that she was not authorised, 
but strictly forbidden, to follow any man 
or set of men further than they follow 
Christ, she did withdraw from said Associ- 
ation, declaring by the vote of a large ma- 
jority, that she was no longer a member 

Jeremiah Beeves, an ordained minister, 
of the missionary faith and practice, was 
a member among us, and oppqsed the mea- 
sure as did four other members; but the said 
Reeves said, he would submit and go with 
the majority. This was a pleasing thing to 
the brethren, as they feared distress from 
that source. We now had reason to hope 
that the church would get along in peace; 
but alas, our hopes were soon blasted; for 
at our next conierence, Reeves moved that 
the church reconsider the act of the last 
conference, relative to withdrawing from 
(lie Alabama Association; which move was 
seconded. and the vole of the ehureh taken, 



which decided in the negative by a large 
majority as before. The brethren then 
offered to give a letter of dismission, 
(in fellowship excepting their missionary 
principles.) to Reeves or any that were 
dissatisfied; which was refused, and Reeves 
claimed to himself and his party all the 
rights and privileges of the church. He 
Was then asked if he did not say in the last 
conference, that he would submit and go 
With the majority of the church, which he 
clenied; three times he was asked that ques- 
tion, which he denied each time and said 
the church left him standing a memher of 
the Alabama Association. The church then 
entered a charge against Reeves and his 
adherents, for disorder and against him for 
falsehood, and required them to attend the 
next monthly conference and give satisfac- 
tion to the church. 

After our conference closed, Reeves and 
his adherents went into a conference in pre- 
sence of the members; and in their minutes, 
charged the majority of the church with 
having departed from original principles. 
They also appointed a meeting on the last 
Saturday in August, at which time they ex 
eluded Concord church, then containing 
fifty-six members. 

At our conference in September, the 
charges against Reeves were taken up. 
There were eighteen members present, 
who heard him say he would submit and 
go with the majority of the church; and sev- 
enteen who heard him say, he never did a- 
gree to submit & go with the majority. The 
charges were all established, and his party 
were excluded. Finding lhat he was not 
its kindly received by the churches after 
his exclusion as he expected, (having said 
1 hat the charges would not affect him in 
any way, and that he should not pay any 
attention to them,) he devised apian which 
he supposed would reinstate him in the con- 
fidence of the people and churches; of which 
plan we think the whole party concerned 
jnust be ashamed, if they have the passions 
common to human nature. To effect this 
plan he selected several of his brethren, 
such as he knew would act according 
t) his will, being of kindie I spirit: lie laid 
h -i case before this committee (as they 
were called) and they justified him, and 
consequently condemned the church. This 
we have heard from good authors, the 
church not having been informed of the in- 
tention of the meeting, alt ho' it was held not 
m ire than two miles From the church. Was 
.such a circumstance ever before heard of, 

for a committee to be called upon to inves- 
tigate a matter, and settle a difficulty, be- 
tween an excluded member and a church, 
& not to call on the church for her charges, 
nor even inform any of the members, the 
object of the meeting; but to have the 
charges brought forward by the excluded 
member, he himself the only witness, when 
it was known that one of the charges against 
him and for which he was excluded, was 
falsehood, and from his own tale to justify 
him, and appoint a committee out of that 
committee to publish the same. O shame! 
where is thy blush! 

We have been expecting to see the re- 
poit of the aforesaid committee, but it bas- 
net yet been published; perhaps it may not, 
as they must expect it to be refuted, which 
would make the truth of the mutter more 
publicly known. We have seen a piece in 
the Minutes of the Alabama Association, 
representing elder Jeremiah Reeves as the 
pastor of Concord church, and lhat char- 
ges had been alleged ag:tinst him prejudi- 
cial to him as a man, and as a Christian!; 
that he had passed through them as gold 
through fire, unhurt, and only brightened 
and endeared to his brethren thereby. (We 
write from memory, not having the piece 
at hind. ) 

In answer to the above we will say, 
that he never was pastor of Concord 
church; although we believe his refractory 
party dialled him so after their separation 
from us. Nor has he passed through the 
charges alleged against him; but remains 
under them justly condemned, nor can the 
mock trialsof his parly exonerate him there- 
from. As to his being as gold purified, 
we think he needs a process very different, 
to give lustre to his character, or gain the 
affections of any, but those who make false- 
hood their uniting point:. 

The author of all this ado, was once a 
member among us, highly esteemed and 
much confided in; but alas, what has 
the love of money done? The scripluie 
says: "The love of money is the root of all 
evil." In him, the truth of that expression 
appears to be verified. Ask the mission- 
ary board of the Bethel Association, if the 
love of money did not cause him to sell to 
them his services in the ministry. Asl< the 
memb rs & citizens about Concord, if He did 
not shamefully sicrificB truth at the shrine of 
monied institutions Ourfeelings are pained 
utthe recital of these things. He has gone 
into error, but not un lamented; our sym- 
pathies follow him, and our prayers are, 



that he may be brought to see his error and 
turn from the evil. 

It is a common report among the mis- 
sionaries, that Reeves did agree to submit 
to the majority of the church and remain 
with us, if we would remain an indepen- 
dent body, or join an orderly Association; 
that he did remain with us, until we join- 
ed the Ebenezer Association: then he 
withdrew from us, which was in strict ac- 
cordance with what he had said; and that 
our charge of falsehoood against him, was 
unfounded. This is only a subterfuge to 
evade the truth; for it can be established 
by many, who are not members of Con- 
cord church, that his denying what he had 
said, and declaring himself and his party to 
be Concord church, &e. was on Saturday, & 
that no move was made to join any x^ssoci- 
ation until the Monday following; at which 
timethechurch resolved to petitionfor mem- 
bership to the Ebenezer Association. These 
are facts which cannot be denied, for our 
conferences were not held in secret, but in 
the presence of missionaries and open to 
the world. In the above there is no inten- 
tion to extenuate, nor aught in malice writ- 
ten; but facts, calculated to bear investiga 

The above was read to the church and 
was approved, and ordered to be sent to the 
Editorsof the Primitive Baptist for publica- 
tion. March 14th, 1S40. 


We the undersigned committee, (by or- 
der of the church) request you to publish 
the within in the Primitive Baptist. 
Your brethren in the bonds of the gospel. 

William W. Walker,^ 

Isaac R. McElroy, 

Iru, Nleudor, 

John B. Jones, 

Enoch Bell, 





Georgia, Butts county 
15/h March, 1S40. 
Dear Brethren: I have taken my 
pen in hand to let you know, how things 
and matters of religion stand in this part 
of God's moral vine3ard. We are as a 
church at Bethel, Butts county, Ga. in peace 
at this time, having got rid of all the in- 
stitution and middle ground professors. 
We seem to go on tolerably smooth, though 
pure religion seems to be at avery low ebb 
at this lime. We have had the gospel 

preached the year that is past and gone by 
brother Francis Douglass, and I hope that 
it has been to the building up of the dear 
church of God. 1 hope it will be as bread 
cast on the water, that may be gathered ma- 
ny days hence. 

The New School folks in this part of the 
world, appear not to believe like they did 
some months back. It appears like their 
god has fallen asleep, and I do not wonder at 
it; for you remember, brethren, that Elijah 
told such characters that they would have 
to cry louder, for he said in the ISth 
chap, of first Kings, and at the 27th verse: 
And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah 
mocked them and said, Cry aloud; for he 
is a god: either he is talking, or he is pur- 
suing, or he is in a jonrne}', or peradven- 
ture he sleepeth and must be awaked. 

Brethren, I believe that midday is past, 
and the close of the day as at hand; for bre- 
thren,! believe that God's children have & 
will come out from among the institutions. 
For they have cried to their god (to wit:) 
money until every person can begin to see 
their craft. I will leave this part of my 
subject, and attend to that which is of more 
importance. I think the time is now 
come, when all the dear children of God 
should be like Elijah was, when these 
characters were worshiping their idols; for 
the time is come in my opinion, that the 
people are worshiping some hing similar. 
Brethren, I wish the lime would come 
when Zion would arise over all opposi- 
tion that can be thrown upon her, and 
shine as a city set on a hill that cannot he 
hidden. 1 believe God has set a time to 
favor Zion, and that, time is just at hand; 
for when I read the communications from 
the brethren in the Primitive, the}' all 
agree so in their desires, that God would 
visit them once more. And the reason 
I believe that he will is, that he said in his 
word that where there are two or three 
agree as touching any one thing, it Ihall 
be granted. And I believe there are that 
number that agree, that write in the Primi- 

Brethren, when I reflect over my trou- 
bles and afflictions, I am made to cry out 
with one of old and say, I fear one day or 
other I shall fall by the hand of Saul. But, 
brethren, when I read the Primitive I 
find that there are so many more precious 
brethren far better by practice than I am, 
that have the same firey trials to plunge 
thro', that it comforts my soul. Brethren, 
ought notChrist to haye suffered these things 



to enter into glory? Then if Christ suffer- 
ed these things, should we ns sinners that 
he has redeemed out of the world, refuse to 
suffer to go and he where he is? God 
forhid that it should he the case. 

A word to my ministering brethren. 
Should you not he as much like Elijah as 
you can; be continually engaged .to God, 
that he might enable you to overturn all 
the moltGn images, or golden halves, in 
this our present time of troubles? Bieth- 
ren, the Lord has made it your business to 
do so, & feed the sheep of his; for I remem- 
ber the evangelist John, in the last chapter 
which is the 2lst, and commencing at the 
15th verse: So when they had dined, Je- 
sus said to Simon Peter, Simon, son. of Jo- 
nas, lovest thou me more than these? 
Hesailh unto him, yea, Lord, thouknow- 
est that I love thee. Tken he said unto 
him, feed my lamhs. And so be continued 
the question down to the hist of the seven- 
teenth verse, where he still suith; feed my 
sheep. Then I want my Old School breth- 
ren, to go and preach the everlasting love 
cf God and his Christ, without money ami 
price to a dying and lust world of sin- 
ners. And so 1 close hy subscribing my- 
self your unworthy brother as I hope in 
Christ. IlEMiY VmiRON. 

zzr-*^:.*.Tz,7:J^?:?u.'v-r~^- .T^rx.r—.-'iXEJEexj 

SATURDAY, JUNE 27, 1840. 

— --r- ■ — ■ — 

I may be expected on Saturday, 1st August, at 
Mearn's Chapel, Nash: on Sunday, 2nd, at Ree- 
dy Creek, Warren: the 3rd August, at Brown's: 
4th, at Tar River, Granville: 5th, at Flat River, 
Person: — Thence the brethren will arrange so as 
io bring me to Bush Arbor, 2nd Saturday and Sun- 
day in August — Thence so as to bring me to the 
session of the Country Line Association, and 
thence to that of Abbot's Creek Union. 


l^Jgecombe, ]\ T . 0. June, 1840. 


North Carolina, Wm/nc county, ~) 
jprilqilh, IS 10.' 5 
Dkab bfietiiuem Editors: By the mercy of my 
heavenly Father, I am blest with an opportunity 
of writing a few lines for the Primitive' Baptist. 
I will in the fir^t place infoim yen, my dear breth- 
ren, something of 1 1 i y feelings respecting the min- 
jslryi That all-important subject of preaching 
Christ's gospel, is a subject that lias for some con- 
siderable time borne with great weight upon my 

mind, and it appears that 1 cannot get rid of it. 
I have some few times tried to speak in public, 
hut I have made it out so badly, that I think some 
times 1 will never try agahu 

But, dear brethren, I sometimes think how it 
was with me while under conviction for my sins, 
(if I ever was;) for sometimes I wanted to be with 
the dear children of God, and to talk with theni 
about the goodness of God and his sending his on- 
ly begotten Son in this world, to he crowned with 
a crown of thorns, and to be reared on Mount Calr 
vary and nailed to the cross for his elect. And, 
again, dear brethren, it would seem that J did not 
want to be in company with any cf God's people 
at all, nor did not want to talk on the subject of 
religion neither. And so it appears that 1 am \i\ 
most such a situation now, with regard to preach- 
ing; for sometimes it appears that I have such a, 
burden on my mind, that I cannot rest. And 
sometimes when reading the scriptures, there will 
some passages arrest my mind with 6qch force, 
that I cannot get rid of it in some lime; but after 
a while it wears off and I ani brought to fear, and 
that greatly too, that I am deceived. My dear 
brethren in the ministry, how was it with yoiiT 

At our last meeting (on Sabbath) we had broths 
er D. Philips to preach for us; and after he was 
done ho said, brethren, will any of you conclude] 
There were present two or three brethren that had, 
often done the like. But I sat still and did not at- 
tempt to conclude worship, and at the time I was; 
almost restless with this text of scripture on my 
mind: Out of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of 
God is made, unto us wisdem, and righteousness, 
and sanctific.ation, and redemption. 1 Cor. 1 ch. 
30 v. I thought a while before brother Philips, 
was done preaching, that if he asked me to con- 
clude I would do so, (or at least 1 would try to 
conclude, and make some remarks from the above 
named text.) But it seemed that because he did 
not call me by name, that I sat still. 

Dear brethren, as I have before remarked, I 
awfully fear that J am deceived in myself, and 
that there is no such thing ns niy being called to 
the ministry. But again, when 1 am so burdened 
with this all-important subject of being called of 
God to preach his everlasting gospel to fallen men 
and women, I am brought to be|ieve like t|ie pro- 
phet of old said, the burden of the Lord is ii|>oi| 
me. Anl, dear brethren, I think 1 have received 
the red, and that well too, for not concluding 
meeting at. t|ie before mentioned time 

Dear brethren, I have been a mflmbcr of the 

Baptist church six years last October, and, it has, 

been about two years since, that I have been iiu - 

pressed with these things, and it. may be that J 

: a. n deceived; hut if I am, I pray God to right mu 

J aud convince me cf my errors and right rflp 



wherein \ am wrong, and earnestly request all my f 
bretliren to pray for me. St. James says, 5th cli. 
latter part of the Kith verse: The effectual fervent 
prayer of the righteous man availeth muf\h. In the 
1 5th verse of the same chapter lie says: And 
the prayer of faitli (which is the gift of God) shall 
save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; 
and if he haye committed sins, they shall be for- 
given him. 

Dear brethren, as I have quoted that passage of 
scripture, in Paul's first epistle to the church at 
Corinth, 1 will endeavor to make sojm? remarks 
from it. Jn the first of this chapter 2d v. he says: 
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to 
them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus. Not that 
they may be sanctified, if they would do thus or so; 
but to them that are sanctified — in the past tense 
— in Christ Jesus palled to be saints, with all that 
jn every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ 
our Lord, both theirs and ours. Not only the 
phurch at Corinth were called to he saints in 
Christ Jesus, but the church at Ephesus, and also 
the church at Rome. He (Paul) comes on down 
to the 11th v. and says: For it hath been declared 
unto me of you, my brelhren, by them which arp 
of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions 
among you. 

Now, dear brethren, I have experienced some- 
thing like the last thing named for the last twelve 
or eighteen months in the church at Cross [toads; 
for there has been a great striving about words to 
rio profit. Now after Paul was done telling them 
pf their contentions, he tells them Christ sent him 
to preach the gospel, and that too without wisdom 
pf words, &c. and declares that the preaching of 
the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but, to 
them that are saved jt is the power of God. lie 
(Paul) says, he (God) will destroy (lie wisdom 
pf the wise, &c. and that the world by wisdom 
know not God; it pleased God by the foolishness 
pi preaching to saye them that believe — and comes 
pn and says, the wisdom of God is stronger than 
men, &c. and tells his brethren that God hath cho- 
sen the foolish things of the world to confound the 
wise, &c. and on down |Lo the 30th v. and : 
declares to the church that they are in Christ Je- 
sus, who God has made wisdom, &c. And in this 
same chapter he tells his brethren, that they see 
their calling, &c. Head the chapter. 

As my sheet is lull I will come to a close by 
subscribing myself, yours in tribulation. Dear i 
brethren, pray for inc. /-"IS. II. SJISSEK. 




Nurth Caiolina, Buncnmbe county, ~> 
April 11///, 1810. 5 ! 
Pear pretiiren Editors: And all the Old ' 

Fashioned Baptists that are scattered abroad. I 
now take my pen in hand to inform you of my 
sud Ion joy. 1 yesterday received my papers the 
Primitive, for the first time in two months and a, 
half; which 1 do believe gave me as great joy as it 
gave the father to see the prodigal son return. I 
sometimes had a thought of coming all the way to, 
Tarburough, to know the reason of their delay, 
not knowing what might take place, as 1 do know 
that I am surrounded in this country by wolves 
and dragons of the pit. The papers I have just 
received were printed the 14th of March, and have 
come to me from Tennessee, being directed to, 
Lapland, Buncombe county, Tennessee; whipty 
there js no such county in that State. Dear breth- 
ren. I do not believe that you directed my papers 
to Tennessee, for this reason, you know that I al- 
ways directed my communications from North 
Carolina, Buncombe county. Not only so, but I 
believe you to be true friends to the Lord God of 
the Hebrews; yea, the God that rules and governs, 
the armies of Israel, 

Dear brethren, I am a poor man in property; but 
1 thank God 1 am truly able to pay for my little 
winged messenger, the Primitive paper, that 
conies flying over the lofty hills and mountains, 
bringing me good tidings of great joy. Yes, 
brethren, great joy indeed to hear from my dear 
spattered brethren all over the United Slates, al} 
crying out in the language of heaven, saying, 
my dear brethren, here is my heart and hand to 
stand by you, even to the gloomy shades of deathf 

1 discover some of the brethren think some of us 
are too hard in our communications. But I wil| 
say, rrfy dear brother or brethren, think for a mo- 
ment if you please, and see whether you think 
shallow grubbing is as good as deep grubbing, 
where all the roots are taken out of the ground, or 
not. No, brethren, I think the deeper we dig 
around the roots of iniquity, the sooner it will fall) 
My dear brethren, you might as well preach l ° tlif* 
rocks jn the mountains, and you would melt them 
as soon with soft words, as you would a man's, 
heart that was given over to strong delusion. \ 
consider the most good that we can do now-a-days 
is, to warn them that are not yet taken in their 
dead falls, to beware of their triggers and their 
bait; neither touch the trigger nor taste of the bait, 
on the peril of your lives. Recollect the saying of 
the wise man: The lips of the strange woman 
drop as the honey comb; her words are smoother 
than oil; many strongmen haye been slain by her; 
her house is the way to hell, leading down to the 
chambers of death. 

O, brelhren, you certainly know this woman in 
the spiritual sense is the false church, and liovy 
many strung, worldly wise men do we see in the 



antichrisrian church; dead, yea, dead to the righ- 
teousness of God in Christ. Shall we yet speak 
soft words to turn away the envy and strife of 
those that God lias sent strong- delusion to believe 
a lie, that they may be damned? No, brethren, 
we might as well try to stop the wind from blow- 
ing, or the sea from her roaring, as to turn those 
kind of people by either hard or soft words. My 
object is, to try as an instrument in the hand of 
God to keep out those that have not yet got into 
their dead fallsi 

My dear brethren and sisters in the Lord, often- 
times is my heart with you, though mountains and 
waters separate our bodies hundreds of miles be- 
tween us; often do I think of you away beyond the 
blue mountains, and sometimes when on those 
high mountains in Buncombe, as I travel to my 
appointments, I think and wish, O that I had a 
voice that my distant brethren could only hear 
poor unworthy Tillery's voice, how I should take 
a delight in preaching to youi For certain I am 
there are many of you that are able to hear strong 
meat, and I have thought, and yet think, that I am 
better calculated to feed old sheep than lambs; yet 
it is right to feed both, and may the Lord enable 
me to do so a few more days or years at most, for 
I have not long to stay in this world of trouble, 
even should I die with old age. And thanks be 
to God, that I am born to diei 


FairfuJd district, 8 C. > 
May 12/4, 1840. \ 

Beloved Bkethren Editors: It has 
again become my duty as agent to drop you 
a few lines, requesting a few more Nos. of 
your valuable paper called the Primitive 
Baptist, for new subscribers whose names 
are inserted below. 

We the Primitive Baptist church at 
Crooked Run, have now 17 members, and 
still look far more. The division still goes 
on, and contention has risen to a considera- 
ble height. The Primitives are called ev- 
ery thing, but what is good and clever. 

Dear brethren, knowing that persecu- 
tion is a part of the Christian inheritance, 
and that tribulation worketh patience, 
and that these light afflictions which we en- 
dure, which is but for a season, is work- 
ing for us a far more exceeding and eternal 
weight of glory; we can rejoice in tribula- 
tion. And I have the promise fulfilled, 
where Christ says, when they shall re- 
vile you and speak all manner of evil 
against you falsely for my sake, rejoice 
and he exceeding glad; for great is your 
reward in heaven; for so persecuted their 

warfare at the feet of Jesus, and receive the prorrv 
ised inheritance in them bright eternal worlds 

fathers the prophets! Yea, I have seen 
Dear brethren, take courage; a few more cam- | tlle promise verified Where it is said, as 
paigns and we^shalljay clown the weapons of our | thy fey8 arc so sha n the j r strength he; 

and if God be for us, who can be against us. 
Dear brethren, seeing we experience 
above the starry plains. My dear brethren in tri- J suc h things, what manner of persons ought 
bulation, if I never see you here, I hope in God I wc t0 | ):J \ a n || holy conversation and god- 
my Saviour to meet you there. Yes, my dear old ] ine ss? We should at all times be on our 
brother Rice of Alabama, I have a hope that I shall j watchtower, having on the whole armor 
meet you in that world o!>y and peace; not only f God, our loins being girt with truth, 
so, but I hope to meet all my dear and precious anc | ur feet shod with the preparation of 
brethren and sisters, where we shall spend a nev- ; | he gospel of peace. And above all, lake 
er ending eternity together. O, ye dear brethren (he sword of the spirit which is the word 
that are scattered abroad, God Almighty bless you of God, whereby we shall be able to 
at home and abroadi Dear brethren, when I read quench all the firey darls of the wicked, 
your communications in my little Primitive pa- 1 And when we have done all to stand — Stand 
per, it is to me like the oil that ran down Aaron's ! firm, steadfast, immmovable, always aboun- 
beard even to the skirts of his garment. Dear ding in the work of the Lord, 
brethren, stand fast and do not give" one inch of Dear brethren, 1 will come to a close 
ground to our enemies; for as sure as God is in by saying, my heart's desire and prayer to 
heaven they are wrong, if the scriptures are the God for Israel is, that they may be saved, 
truth And dear preaching brethren you in parti- 
cular, cry aloud against error and support truth; 
prove your doctrine by the standard, the word of 
eternal truth, which livelh and abideth forever- 
more, and fear not the armies or the legions of 
men nor devils. So 1 conclude by saying, may 
God enable me to stand For his cause, through time 
and a never-ending eternity, world without end. 

Brethren, pray for us. 



Kentucky, Clay county, } 
May 10///, 1840.' $ 
Beloved Brethren of the Old 
School order: I say, grace be to you and 



ponce from God our Father, and from our 
Lord Jesus Chrst, who comforteth us in 
all our tribulations. 

Beloved brethren, I hope yon will con- 
tinue steadfast in the faith, rejoicing in 
God our Saviour, knowing his promises 
are sure, and that his elect shall be saved 
with an everlasting salvation. The world, 
the flesh, the missionary craft, nor the devil, 
never were, nor never will be, able to frus- 
trate the mind of God; for he is of one 
mind, and who can turn him. Therefore, 
let us put our trust in him, looking unto 
him to be the author and finisher of our 

Dear brethren, 1 am unshaken in this 
opinion, that is, that all the children 
of the free woman are of the same mind; 
and they will inherit an equal portion in 
the kingdom of glory, in spile of all the 
Ishmaelites that satan ever had, or ever can 
muster, or ever can send out to cheat them. 
Our blessed Captain says: Fear not, little 

and give him the glory in all things; but 
especially for the salvation of such poor 
sin-defiled creatures as we were. Although 
we were enemies, he brought us nigh unto 
him by the cleansing of our souls with 
his own blood; although we had sold our- 
selves for nought, he hath redeemed us by 
his blood, and made us heirs of God and 
joint heirs without- Lord. Jesus Christ. Bles- 
sed be the name of the Lord, his mercy en- 
clurclh forever and his love hath no bounds. 
He is aide to adorn his bride, and keep 
her from all the power and bewitching 
snares of the devil, from the beginning to 
all eternity. that I could tell of the 
goodness of God, that all the earth could 
hear. I mu?t close for the present. Bre- 
thren, farewell. LEVI B. HUNT. 

Holmes coimty, Mississippi, ~> 
May 24, 1S40. \ 
Dear brethren Editors: I have at 
last taken up my pen to give you a few of 
flock, it is your Father's good pleasure to i my thoughts. Since I have received the 

he kingdom. 

give you ! 

boast of his great benevolent schemes, o 
his mission societies, his schools, his great 
men of talents, and of their great success in 
making Christians; and that if he only 

The devil can J Primitive 1 can say, that I feel thankful to 

God to hear of the communications from 
all parts of the world. Before I saw the 
Primitive, I was almost in despair to see so 
many after the new fashioned religion, that 

had money enough, he would bring on the Old Primitives were not looked at only 

the milienium right off. 

to be frowned at by the world. But when 
i nous | I reflect and think that, straight is the way 

Brethren, satan with all his 
trash is no more than stubble; our God can ; and narrow is the gate that leads to life, I 
say, get thee hence, and he will have to flee ! feel thankful that God has a Tittle number 
with all his followers in a moment. Let ! all over the world. 

us then, my brethren, pray to God that he J Brethren, go on in the strength of the 
may deliver us from our enemies, and i Lord. I bid you God speed; and when 
teach us to walk the good and narrow : it goes well with you, remember me. 
way, which is marked out by his blood. | Yours, in the oonds of lovr 
Ye ministers of God, cease not to blow! 
the gospel trumpet; declare the whole 
counsel of God, fear God alone, and 


JcJJ'erson covnty, Florida, ~> 
\ftpril 1th, 1S40. 5 
'ditors: I have seen one or two 

none else. Brethren deacons, torn the 

key of your church doors against all : Dear 

men-pleasing .and money-hunting pi e i- of your papers, and am desirous that more 

chers. Brethren laity, stand to your ■ of them should be sent to Florida. Send 

arms, assemble ofien together, pr-iy with 
and for each other, and so much the 
more as ye sec the evil day approaching. 
Be steadfast, not easy moved; notice the 
allurements of a crafty priesthood, be of 
one mind and one soul, speaking the lan- 
guage of Canaan saying: The Lord is our 
God, and we will foilow him. 

Dear brethren, although I have never 
seen your faces, I hope to join you to sing 
a song of free grace alter our day of trial 
and afflictions shall be over on this earth. 
Then we shall see our blessed Redeemer, 

me six copies. 

We have a strong soft side, or in other 
words, money beggars; but, thank the 
Lord, we have some ot the Old Stampthat 
say, by grace ye are saved, and that not of 
yourselves, for it is the gift of God. 

Your servant in respect. 


Holmes county, Mississippi, 
March \Ol/i, 1S40. 

Brethren Editors: Inasmuc! 

ich as 

have been a close observer of your Primitive 



for about ten months, and am so well pleas- 
sed with the doctrine exhibited in it, that 
1 feel desirous to throw in my mite; no I 
that. I feel capable of writing for the public, 
as I never had three months schooling in life, 
but knowing what satisfaction it has been 
to me to hear from the brethren in dif- 
ferent parts of the world, I know not but 
it may yield some comfort to them to 
hear from their brethren in North Missis- 

Brethren, T never expect to see your faces 
jn this life; but notwithstanding, I am sure 
of this one thing, that wc are engaged in the 
same warfare; for that common foe mission- 
jsm, has not escaped us, but has spread its 
baneful wings over this part of the world 
also. But thanks be to God, he has not 
given this part of the State up to idolatry, 
as far as it seems to have spread in the 
south, as far as my knowledge extends; 
and also from what bro. Ferguson states in 
the 2nd No. and volume the 5th, who lives 
jn the south. I am sure he knows them, 
or he never could have described them so 

Now these people with us are very artful, 
for it seems that they have got a face to suit 
all men, except them hive no money to 
give them; for when they are with predes- 
tinarians, then they will contend that they 
are predestinarjans; & when with the oppo- 
nents of that doctrine, then they will ridi- 
cule it and call it that old hard doctrine 
" that destroys the life of religion, and if 
true (they say) it ought not to be preached, 
for it dies more harm than good, But 
notwithstanding all their effor's and 
plans, the Old Primitive Baptists arc 
gaining ground and I do believe that 
ihe missionaries will destroy them- 
selves with their own weapons, like the 
Philistinps did when they went against the I 
Israelites; for they are in confusion among 
themselves and no wonder, for all they go 
for is for number. For at some of their 
protracted meetings they will baptise from 
forty to eighty, & then brag about it as tho' 
they bad converted their squls; and throw 
reflections on the Old Baptists, and pretend 
to hold this forth PS sufficient proof that 
God is well pleased with them on account 
of their efforts. 

Now I wonder whether they do believe 
what they say. It docs not. seem like 
they can, if they pay any attention to the 
holy writings; for all men can sec there, il 
they will only look, that the (lock of Christ 

very small minority at (hat. I need not lo 
quote the scripture on this subject, for no 
Bible read man will dare to contradict it; 
for notwithstanding all the speculation that 
can be made by all the money hunters in 
the world, wisdom is and will be justi- 
fied of her children; for all the children 
of God well know that the promise of tho 
Lord standeth sure, having this seal, the 
Lord knoweth them that are his. 

Then, dear brethren, let us not be guilty 
of that abominable sin of believing there is 
such weakness in the great God of heaven, 
as to stand in any need or even to accept ot 
any of the men-invented schemes to help 
him out with his work; for the hand of 
Jesus Christ hath laid the foundation of 
his house, his hand also shall finish it. For 
wc know that he has power to bring his 
children from the east and from the west, 
and north and south, and not only to set 
them down with Abraham, and Isaac, and 
Jacob, but also to have them prepared to 
sit there; and this he will do by the 
means which he has appointed and revealed 
by his servants the prophets. For God has 
said, he will do nothing but what he has 
revealed to his servants the prophets, 
Amos, 3 ch. 7 v. 

Now wo need not expect for God to 
work by any new plans, , or institute anv 
new thing, for he well knew what he had 
to do before he closed the canon of revela- 
lion; and men are only exposing theirweak- 
ness in pretending to any thing more, 
They cannot do it from pure motives, but 
only from selfishness and for filthy lucro 
sake. But still God's chosen ones shall 
know the gospel of Christ, by the inward 
teaching of the Holy Spirit, as lo em- 
brace and cleave to the truth, and reject 
all heresies and heretics, while those who 
receive not the truth in the loveof it, shall bo 
left to stumble and fall, and be broken, and 

be snared and be taken. 15 v. And 
few in number those chosen ones are, who by 
the spirit of God are brought to close in with 
the gospel. They shall be taken special care 
of by him, who loved them with an everlast- 
ing love: and they also shall be his wit- 
ness on earth. For the Lord will not 
leave the earth without a witness, nor 
yet without a seed to serve him. In 
all a< r es of the world, the Lord hath had 
a remnant according to the election of grace. 
Rom. llthch. 5 v. While others have 
been given over to seducing spirits and 
doctrines of devils and vain deceit; and oth- 
alvvays was and always will be small, and a ers left lo drink in what carnal religionists 



foiled the gospel of Christ, when in reality 
it is but another gospel. 

Now to those who are so strongly en- 
gaged in the new schemes of the day, hear 
what the Lord says to you: Your wisdom 
hath perverted you. Isaiah 17ch. lOv. And 
this is the wisdom which St. Paul declares 
God will destroy. 1st Cor. ich. I9v. And 
why doth our Lord set so low an estimate 
On the wisdom of those men is, I presume, 
because his kingdom' in his sight ap- 
pears to be much better advantaged un- 
der circumstances less gallant and showy; 
and also because those men with their ha 
lural acquirements, rather exalt themselves 
and human nature at large, than Christ and 
his most glorious gospel. And under this 
view of the subject we shall jeopardize by 
applying to those sort of gentry, Paul's 
pertinent questions: Where is the wise? 
where is the scribe? where is the disputer 
of this world? Hath not God made foolish 
the wisdom of tins world? 1st Cor. 1 ch. 
20 v. No'w surely those men with their 
carnal wisdom, learning and talents, and 
pretending to assist Almighty God in sav- 
ing that world which Christ says he did 
tiot pray for, ane against whom the Lord 
hath indignation forever. John, 17 ch. 
9 v. Mai. 1 ch.4 v. They may be said 
to be the people of whom St. Paul speaks, 
and concerning whom he asketh the above 

And not' a few have we in this our da)', 
who profess to he wise iit the mysteries of 
the kingdom of Christ, and in the deep 
things of God; and in what way and when 
and by what means men are to be saved, 
and when the millennium with its glori- 
ries will eome on. And how many mis- 
sionaries it will take to turn the whole 
world into church; and'' how much money 
is required to purchase carnal men and turn 
them into missionaries, and to hire them 
to go forth to convert the world into 
a church of graceless professors. And 
thus they by professing to be wise, they be- 
come fools. Horn. 1 ch. 22 v. 

Now to all the men throughout the 
world, and whatever denomination they 
may belong to, know ye that the term 
missionary is so far from being offen- 
sive to us,- that when it is viewed in 
connexion with the precious gospel of 
the Son of God, we consider (here is ev- 
ery thing in and about it that is sweet to the 
Christian. But let not vain man presume 
to send out missionaries because our 
Lord has sent; for it is his prerogative 

and his alone to send, and that without the 
help of man or any set of men. Well but, 
say the missionaries, we are sent of God. 
If so,whydo you disgrace him sofar as togd 
under the patronage of any convention, or 
society? Is not his mission sufficient? You 
say Paul was a missionary. Well agreed,' 
but where did his mission come from?' 
If you say he was just such an one as your- 
selves, pray where did the society meet, 
and who was the president of it, arfd where' 
was" the board that sent him? Now when 
he made his defence before the king, he 
there declared that he had recieved it of 
God, that called him between Jerusalem and 
Damascus; and when he was writing to the 
Galatians, he declared that he. did not re- 
ceive it of men, but by the revelation ol 
Jesus Christ.' 

Now if we had no other sort of mission- 
aries but such as St. Paul, we should have 
peace among the churches. 13ut alas, in- 
stead of that, see what sorrow & grief these' 
things have produced? they have caused 
more tears shed by the church, 1 have 
no doubt, than were shed in the revolution- 
ary war. But, brethren, 1 do believe thaft! 
Jesus has a bottle that will contain them ail. 

Some years ago I received a request 
from some of the okl Baptists, (that 
about twenty years ago heard me preach 
statedly,) that 1 would come once more 
and preach in their hearing; (for, say 
they,) we want to know if you preach now 
as you did then. So last summer I paid? 
them a visit and asked them, why they sent 
me such request? The answer I received' 
was that the preaching they now heard was 
not like that they once heard. I asked them 
what kind of preaching they now heard? 
(why, say they,) one Sunday we have a 
missionary sermon; another, a Bible So- 
ciety sermon; another, a Sunday School! 
Union sermon; another, a Theological' 
School discourse; and at the close of 
each a begging for money, and telling 
the people that souls- are of more value 
than all their money. Now, say they r 
this is the sort of preaching we have now;, 
and our preachers tell us, it is so all over 
the United States. And this, and the like of 
this,- was the cause we sent for youj for we 
can now get together, and sit down and 
cry and mourn and sayr^ that it was now 
as it was in years past, for then we could 
hear Jesus Christ and him crucified preach- 
ed. But now, alas, if we have no mon- 
ey, we are considered the oflscouring 
of the world. The poor once had the 



gospel preached uiito them, but now lhe\ 
are ridiculed. 

Brethren, do not conclude that this is 
the case with all the Baptists in. the State 
of Mississippi; for there are three churches 
in Holmes county, and one in At'alla, and 
one lately constituted in Carroll, that have 
never been infested with them. Brethren, 
I did not expect to have written as much 
when 1 began, but many things came into 
my mind as 1 wrote, and 1 could tell many 
things more of the missionary Baptists, and 
not depart from the truth. For 1 have 
lived several years as it were by myself, 
and the missionaries proclaiming to me 
that the Baptist preachers were all gone and 
left me; and as they said, I was living be 
hind the times, for the church emerged in- 
to new light and had left me behind the 
times. And 1 never knew any better, un- 
til I .received the Primitive. Though just 
about that time bro. Simpson Parks came 
on from the north, and it was God's will 
to raise up bro. Scott, and then receiving 
the Primitive, I found there many faithful 
brethren, that were and had been all the 
while,contending for the faith that was once 
delivered to the saints. 

Brethren, it may be that some of you 
can think, but I am sure none of you can 
tell, the joy and comfort it was to me. I 
tho't of the old proverb, that God had yet 
a reserved people, that had not bowed the 
knee to the image that missionaries had set 
lip; I could not keep my eyesdiy for some 
time. Brethren, 1 am an old pian, nearly 
sixty years old, and forty of them I have 
lived in the Baptist church; and 1 can say, 
but to the praise of God be it spoken, I nev- 
er had a charge exhibited against me before 
any church, yet 1 then expected to die an 
excommunicato, for the light that the 
missionaries boasted of, I considered total 

1 want you to continue sending the Prim- 
itive, though some call it a telltale; yell do 
not believe it deserves that appellation, for 
though it holds forth news, yet I do hope it 
contains nothing malicious. 

Brethren, pray for us. The grace of our 
Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. 

how we Old Baptists are getting along 
here. We are but weak and few, to 
compare with the host that is around us. 

The Bethlehem Association appears to 
be a large and flourishing Association; it 
lias 36 churches of her body, 2093 mem- 
bers, his baptised last year 365, has exclu- 
ded 140. which is a part of our feeble band, 
that is of the Primitive order. We have 
six small churches that have constituted a 
small Association near the middle of this 
body. Now you may see how we are sur- 
rounded by church and world; you may ex- 
pect we do not receive much friendship 
from them. 1 pray the Lord that he would 
send some of his preachers amongst us, that 
would set us right wherein we may be 
wiong, and strengthen us in that faith 
that the Primitive editors contend so ear- 
nestly i'or. 

1 will tell you of a meeting that was at 
Pilgrim's Rest church, last Sunday. Our 
church is small, only 13 members, 3 of them 
did not come to meeting on Saturday. We 
felt very dull, and like we were almost for* 
saken; but on Sunday there came out I be- 
lieve from 70 to 100 people. Brother 
Miller seemed to preach with warmth, 
much to the satisfaction of the church and 
people I believe. After preaching, our lit- 
tle church, with a brother deacon that vis- 
ited us from Antioch church with brother 
Miller, say 1~ in all, communed and wash- 
ed one another's feel in the presence of the 
congregation, who deserve credit for their 
good behavior, all which caused me to feel 
glad. So no more, but my love. 



Alabama '., Conecuh county, } 
Mai/ 26th, 1S40. ' 5 
Dear brethren Editors: I will try 
to write you a few lints, to let you know 

TO EDITORS primitive baptist. 

Campbell county, Georgia, } 
May 2$th, 1S40. 5 

Brethren Editors: "Grace be unto 
you, and peace from God our Father, and 
from the Lord Jesus Christ. 1 thank 
my God always on your behalf, for the 
grace of God, which is given unto you 
by Jesus Christ; that in every thing ye arc 
enriched by him, in all utterance and in all 
knowledge; even as the testimony of Christ 
was confirmed in you, so that you come 
behind in no gift waiting for the coming of 
our Lord Jesus Christ; who shall confirm 
you unto the end that you may be blame- 
less in the day of our Lord Jesus 

Contending for the principles of the gos- 
pel, for theie are some that have departed, 



arid arc preaching that which is contrary to 
the gospel of Christ. And Paul has said, 
or the Lord hy the month of Paul, though 
we or an angel from heaven pi each any 
other gospel unto you, than that which we 
have preached unto you, let him be accur- 
sed. And that if he sought to please men, 
he would riot be the servant of Christ. 
PYom this I am ready to conclude, that 
there are numbers of preachers in this our 
clay, that are not the servants of Christ; 
and the curse of God will fall upon them, 
for they are seeking the friendship of the 
world, and we are told by the apostle, that 
the friendship of the world is enmity with 

Some in this section who are Baptists, 
so far as immersion is concerned, s:iy they 
would rather be any thing than a sectarian; 
and I believe that there arc but very few 
sectarians amongst them. For I under- 
stand a sectarian to signify, one of a parti- 
cular sect, one who contends for a certain 
principle or faith; but some of our modern 
missionaries are very foreign from this, but 
will preach a doctrine that the world will 
swallow without chewing, preach with any 
denomination, and brother all profess- 
ors. So they are every thing and any 
thing, and consequently nothing, no secta- 

The Lord's people continue to come out 
from amongst these any sort of folks, which 
keeps up the struggle in some of the chur- 
ches in this country. And the middle folks, 
as they call themselves, say, that they must 
be right; for say they, sec how the Lord 
blesses trie labors of our ministers. And 
truly it seems that they can have a revival 
Wherever they want one; but 1 fear that 
their revival is too much like a sedge field 
on fire of a windy day, it flames and flash- 
es, burns all the trash before it, is soon out, 
and nothing but smut left behind it. 

So, dear brethren, 1 conclude, never ex- 
pecting to see all of your faces in time; 
but if we are the children of God by faith 
in Christ, we shall meet by and by, where 
the wicked cease from troubling and the 
weary will be forever at rest. Yours in 
the bonds of Christian love. 




North Carolina. — .1. Biggs, Sen. Williamston , 
R. M. G. Moore, Gennanlon. W. w. Mizoll, Ply- 
mouth. Jacob Swindell, Washington, Jumcs Sou- 

therland, Warrcnlon. diaries Mason, Boxboo'r. 
James Wilder, Anderson's Store. jBenj. Bynurrf, 
Speight's Bridge. H. A vera, Averasboro'. J. H. 
Keneday, Chalk Level. Burwell Temple, Wake co. 
Geo. w. McNeely, Leaksville. Wm. H. Vann, 
Long Creek Bridge. Thomas Bagley, Smithfie\d. 
James H.Sasser, Waynesboro' 1 . John Fruit, San- 
dy Creek, L. B, Bennett, Hcathville. Alfred El- 
lis, Slrabane, Cor's Oanaday, Cravensville, Wil- 
liam Welch, Abbott's Creelu J. Lamb, Camden 
C.H- A. B. Bains, Jr. Stanhope. C. T. Saw- 
yer, Powell's Point. Isaac Tillery, Lapland. 
F rands Fletcher, Elizabeth City. Harris Wil- 
kerson, West Point. Isaac Alderman, Moore's Creek* 
James Wilier, Millun Park. 

South Carolina. — Wm. Hardy, Saluda Wilt 
lames Hembree, Sen. Anderson C. H. Charles 
Carter, Cambridge. B. Lawrence, Effingham, 
James Burris, Sen Bald Spring. William S* 
Shaw, Rock Mills. Levi Lee, Blackville. An- 
drew Westmoreland, Cashville. James J* Kirk- 
land, Four Mile Branch. Ransom Hamilton, Ai- 
ken. John S. Rogers* Cre/wsviUe, Marshal Mc- 
Craw, Brown's. John Li Simpson, Cookham's. 

Georgia.— William Moseley, Bear Creek. Al- 
len Cleveland, Mclhnough. John McKenney, For- 
syth. Anthony Holloway, Lagrange. P.M. Cal- 
houn, Knoxville. R. Reese, Eatonton. Thomas 
Amis and David w. Batman, Lexington. Jona- 
than Noel, James Hoi lings worth and Stephen 
Castellow, Macon. Charles P. Hansford, Union 
Hill. John w. Turner, Pleasant Hill. Joshua 
iowdoin, Adairsville. R. Toler and Jas. M. Rock- 
more, Upaloie. Clark Jackson and Abednego Mc- 
Ginty, Fort Gaines. John Garden, Franklin. P. 
II. Edwards, Georgetown. William Trice, Thoti- 
asion. William Bowden, Union Valley. Ezra Vic- 
Crary, War-rent cm. Wiley Pearce and Prior Lewis 
Cairo. lohn LasscUer, Vernon. B.Pace, Van Wert. 
L. Peacock, Cassville, V. D. Whatley, Barnesville. 
Alex. Garden and Thomas C. Trice, Mount Morne. 
Elias 0. Hawthorn, Bainbridge. J. G.Winti'inor^. 
ham, Florence. William Mi Amos, Greenville. 
Randolph Arnold, Latimer's Store. Thomas J» 
Bazemore, C\inioi£ Josiah Stovall, Aquilla. G. 
P.Cannon, CuModenoille, Jason Gfier, Indian 
Springs. Wm. McElvy, Altapulgus. Fnrna Ivey T 
Millcdgeville. Wm. Garrett, Cotton River, Jesse 
Moore, George Herndon and John Hardie, Irwin- 
ton. Leonard Pratt, Whitcsville. Edward Jones, 
Decatur. Israel Hendon, Sliilo. Robert B.Mann! 
Chesnut Grove. A. G. Simmons, Hickory Grove f 
John Lawhon, Chenuba. John Herino-ton, Wel- 
born's Mills, James P. Ellis, Pineville, F. Hacr- 
g^rd, Athens. Hi Barron, Jackson, John Murray, 
Fort Valley, Josiah Gresham, White Hall. Daniel 
O'Neel, Fowlton. John Applewhite, Waynesboro'* 
J.B.Morgan &i. fyPiRouse, Friendship, Sam'l Wil- 
liams, Fair Play, John wayne, Cain's, Edmund 
Stewart, Hoolensville. R, S. Hamrick, Carrollton, 
David Smith, Cool Spring, Allison Spear, Flat 
Shoals, Moses Daniel, Bowery, Moses H. Den- 
man, Marietta. Joshua S. Vann, Blakcly, Asa 
Edwards, Houston, Richard Stephens, Sen'r. 
Tarversville, John Stroud, Kendall. James Scar- 
borough, Stalesborcugh, Young T. Standifer, 
Mulberry Grove, Robert R, Thompson, Centre- 
ville. Young Ti Stai.difer, Mulberry Grove, .fa- 
red Johnson, Troupvilte. Kindred Braswell, 
Buncansville. Edmund Si Chambless, S tailings 



Store. James w. Walker, MarUmrOHgh. Edmund 
Dumas, Jo/ins/onviWc. David Rowell, Jr. Groo 
versviWc. Joel Colley, Covington, . Benjamin C. 
Burns, ViWa llicati David Jones, TraveWcr's Rest. 

Alabama. — L,B. M'ose.lcy, Cahaiolm. A. Ken- 
ion, McConico. Jbhn Blackstonb, Ha Fayette. VV. 
W. Carlisle, Fredonia. Henry Dance, Daniel's 
Prairie. Wrn. w. Walker, Liberty Hill. Dan'] 
tpaflbrd, Greenville. Samuel Moore, Snow 11:11; 
John G. Walker, Miltdn: Henry Williams, Ha- 
vana. Samuel Clay, Mount Hebron. James 
haniel, Claiborne', Ellas Daniel, Church Bill. 
John Bonds, Clinton, David Johflstoii, Leighton. 
Adaiti.McCreary, Brooklyn. Josiah Jones. Jack- 
son. . David' Jacks, New Market. Sherrorl w 
Harris, Vienna. John McQueen, Graves'' Ferry, 
William Talley, Mount Moriah, 01 faddy Her. 
ting, Clayton. Givv. Jeter, Pint La/a, Samuel 
Ci J6hhsoh,P/:flwzw/ Grove. Wm.Crutcher,//u«/S- 
villc, Wmt H. Cook and H'y Petty, Pickensville. 
Seaborn Hamriek. Plantersville. William Mel- 
lon, Bluff Part. James Si Morgan, Dayton. Win, 
Hyde, Gainesville, Rufus Daniel, Jamesfoni An- 
derson w. Bullard, Tusgegee, Frederick Hines- 
■ Gaston, 2,. Johns, Tiarb\ Eli McDonald, Painsville. 
Wm. Powell, Youngsvitte. John Brown, JVacnoca, 
Silas Monk; Horse Shoe Bend, 11. Lackey, Scraper. 
James F. Watson, Abbeville- David Treadwell 
and R.w. Carlisle, Mount Hickory. Sam'l T.Owen, 
4fgus\ Joseph H.Holloway, II iz\e Green. Luke 
B; , Simmons, Troy. Jesse Lee, Farmersville, 
William S. Armstrong, Louitvillc. Mark Porter, 
Hemopolis, Henry Adams, Mount Willing. Joel 
Hi Chambless, Lbwsville. Elliot Thomas, Wil- 
liamston. F. Pickett, China drove, James Grum- 
bles^ Benton. John M. Pearson, DadeviWe. VV. 
J. Sorelle, Wetumpka, John D. Hoke, Jackson- 
ville, Elijah R, Berry, Cobb's Store, Willis 
Cox, Soukeehatchie. James Searcy, Irwinton. 
Hazael Littlefield, Pen Islands. John w. Pellum, 
FranVMn, t Philip May, Belmont, Nathaniel 
Bradford, Mechanic's Grove, A. D- Cooper, Wi\- 
h'amslon. John Harrell, Missouri. James K, 
Jacks, E'lifdn. Henry HiUiard, BeWville. John 
A. Miller, James Mays and^James McCreless, 
Ockfuskec. Durham Kelly, Alexandria, Josiah 
M. Lauderaale, Athens, William Thoinns, Pros- 
pect Ridge. John Bishop, Jun'r. Crockett sville. 
James Gray; Cusefa. Thomas L. Roberts, M&n- 
i-ocvi\\c. Morgan Howard, Ccntreville. 

Tennessee. — A. V .Farmer, Blair's Ferry. Mi- 
chael Burkhalter, Chceksvilk, Tho's K.CIingan, 
Smith's^, Roads. W.E.Pop ^Philadelphia,. Aaron 
Compton, Somerville. Charles Henderson, Emery 
Iron Works. Asa Newport, Meesvil/c. James 
Mauldett, Fan. ZJuren. A. Burroughs, Wesley. Wm. 
Oroom, Jackson. Sion Bass,27wee Forks, John w. 
Springer, Sugar Creek. Smith Hansbrough, Jacks 
('reek, William Si Smith, Winchester. Isham 
Simmons, Calhoun. Thomas Hill, Scvierville. 
Thos. B.Yeates, Lynchburg, C.T. Echols, Mifflin. 
AaronTison, Medon. Levi Kirkland and Ceorge 
Turner, Waverly. Abner Steed, Mulberry, Henry 
Randolph, Sncdysvillc, Pleasant A. Witt, Cheek's 
><j Roads. J, Cooper, Unioaville. Michael Bran- 
son, Long Savannah. Jasi Hi Holloway, Hape\ 
Green, William McBee, Old. Town Creek, Ben- 
jamin w. Harget, Cherryville, Robert (iregory, 
Carouth's X Roads. John Seal lorn, Shady Giner, 

Mississippi. — Jesse Battle, Meridian Spring*. 
WorshamMann Columbus-. Wm. Iluddluslou, Tlto- 

maston. Nathan Tims, Kosciusko, jona. D. Caifi; 
IVulerford. Nathan Morris, Lexington. Charles 
Dodges, Cation Gin Port. Benjamin E. Morris; 
Wheeling.^ Simpson Parks, Lochhurt's Store; 
Mark Prewett, Jlberdcen, Wm. Ringo, llamiXtan. 
James M. Wilcox, Louisville. Edm'd Beemar! 
and Thomas Hi Dixon, Macon. John Erwinj 
LinVltornei Herbert D. Buckham, Pontotoc, Wil- 
liam Davis; Houston., Eli Miller and MicajaH 
Crenshaw, Marion. VViri.H Warren, Befcifi. C: 
Nichols, Stump Bridge. Woolen llili, CooksviUei 
William Clark, Marion^ 

Flouidai — James Alderman and Pi Blount, 
China Hill. David Callaway, [Cherry Lake. Johli 
F. Hagan, Mon/icrU'o. 

Louisiana. — Peter Bankston, Mdrouryv&le. — 
Thomas Paxton, Greensboro'. Uriah Stevens,' 
Pine Grove. 

Missouri. — Joel Ferguson, Jackson. 

Illinois. — Richard M; Newport, Grand View', 
Thomas w. Martin, East Nehoa.. 

Indiana.— Peter SaltZrriah; New Harmony. I- 
saac Wi Denman, GaWatin, 

Ohio. — Joseph H. Flint, Philanthropy. Johri 
B. Moses, German/on, 

Kentucky.— Levi B. Hunt, Manchester. Wash- 
ington Watts, CorneliusviWc. Levi Lancaster,- 

Virginia. — -Kemuel C. Gilbert, Sydnorsvi)\e. 
Rudolph Roxer, Bergcr's Store. John Clark, Fre- 
dericksburg. Wm. w. West, Dumfries. Wil- 
liam Burns, Halifax G~, II, George w. Sanford; 
Harrisonburg. Jesse Laiikford, Bowers's, Eli- 
jab Hansbrough, Som'er'viWe: Wilson Davenport; 
White House, Arthur Wi Eanes, Edge/till, James" 
R. Collins, Burnt Chinuieys. 

Pennsylvania. — Hezekiah West, South IIi}\. 
Joseph Hfighes, Gum Tree: Nathan Everittj 
Chill icoals 'Town. 

New York. — Gilbert Beebe, New Vernon. 

Massachusetts. — Jauies Osbourn, Wobdrili 


Thos. C. Trice, 
j Alex. Garden, 


John Good, 1 

Levi H. I hint, 5 
John Brown, 5 

L; B. Moseley, 5 
Seaborn Hamriek, 5 
Wm. Thomas, 1 

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Marshal MeGraw, 2 
Isaac Teagjue, 1 

Wm. McHee, 5 

N. Canterbury, 1 
John W. Pelluiri, i 
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No. 13. 

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Bear Creek, Henry county, Ga. 
1 1 (h June, 1S40. 

DeAr Brethren: Whom I love in 
truth. 1 have been silent for some time, 
and have been attending to the communi- 
cations of my brethren from the different 
parts of these United States; the most of 
which lam well pleased with, and especi- 
ally those parts that urge so -seriously that 
We take the word of God as the man of our 
counsel, and rule, and guide, of our moral 
and religious conduct. And by so doing, 
be able always to present to the enquirer, 
a thus saith. the Lord for all we do; and 
by abstaining from every thing forbidden, 
prove to a gainsaying world, that we have 
been with Jesus. Letting our light shine, 
that those that sit in darkness may see 
great light, &c. Thus proving by our con- 
duct, the truth of our own pretensions, and 
the saying of the apostle, when he says: 
Do we make void the law through faith? 
God forbid. Yea, we establish the law, 
and thus become doers of the word, and 
not hearers, only deceiving ourselves. , 

But, dear brethren, while we profess to 
be Old School, or Primitive Baptists, and 
and earnestly contend for the faith once 
delivered to the saints, too many of us in 
practice, both in a moral and religious 
point of view, fail to bear that heavenly 
fruit borne by the Primitive Christians, 
and by which we are alone to be known as 
Christians. For it is not every one that 
saith Lord, Lord, that shall enter into the 
kingdom; but lie that doeth the will of my 
Father which is in heaven. And why call 
ye me Lord, Lord, and do not what I say? 

And he thatheareth these sayings of mine' 
and doeth them, he it is that loveth me^ 
and he shall be loved of my Father, &c. 
Again: He that heareth these sayings of 
mine and doeth them, 1 will liken him to 
a wise man> &c. $ but he that heareth, and 
doeth not, was likened unto a foolish man. 
Again, if you love me, keep my command- 
ments; and, if ye love me, ye will keep 
my sayings. By these, with a host of oth- 
er passages, we are to learn something of 
what is meant when it is said, with the 
heart man believeth unto righteousness* 
and with the mouth confession is made un- 
to salvation. And again: Work out your 
own salvation with fear and trembling, viz: 
we believe with the heart, confess with our 
mouths, and by our acts prove the truth of 
what we profess; by wiiich we havS the 
consolation, and others the evidence, that 
we are the children of God; arid if chil- 
dren, then heirs, heirs of God, 'and joint 
heirs with our Lord Jesus Christ. By 
which we are laid under the most deep and 
lasting obligations to render our bodies and 
spirits a living sacrifice unto God; which 
is our reasonable service, thereby glorify- 
ing our heavenly Father in our bodies and 
i spirits which are God's. 

But oh, my brethren, how many that 
I say, Lord, Lord, fail to comply with the 
| express declaration of infallible truth. 
How many, when Jesus by precept and 
I example, has urged the duty of prayer, 
private and public, never let their children 
hear a single supplication ascend a throne 
of God's grace, that he would be merciful 
to them and save their never-dying souls. 
May they not well say, my father profess- 
es to be a Christian, and I learn from the 
Bible that Christians pray; but I never 
hear him, lie professes to have great 
concern for the vvoith and welfare oi my 



soul, but I never hear him carry my case 
to that Jesus', who alone can un9top the deaf 
ear, open the blind eye, cause the lame to 
leap like an hart, and the tongtie of the 
dumb to sing. How many after declaring 
they wish to hear the gospel, which is the 
power of God, forsake the assembling of 
themselves together, contrary to the di- 
vine direction;- and by so doing give an 
evil example to their children, their neigh- 
bors, their servants, and all by whom they 
are influenced, to not only to douht the re- 
ality of our pretensions, but the necessity 
of being born again. Oh, brethren, re- 
member it is said, ye are the light of the 

Again: How many indulge in an unlaw- 
ful use of spiritous liquors until their sen- 
ses are deranged, reason dethroned, and 
they reduced beneath the dignity of a man, 
and for a time to a level with the brute. 
Oh, brethren, for the Lord's sake, for the 
sake of Zion, for the sake of your children, 
your neighbors, and last but not least, for 
the sake of their immortal souls; think 
what must be the reflection of thy son, thy 
daughter, the feelings of thy wife, thy 
brethren. Oh,- just in your imagination 
take a view of yourself, staggering, vomit- 
ting, or acting in some other unbecoming 
manner, or down senseless and exposed. I 
Brethren, if it was your last day you had 
to remain in time, would you spend it at a' 
grog shop, or in drinking spirits, or in 
some other way? If right, why noil 
(Speak out.) 

Again: How many of us indulge in un- ! 
■warrantable language, which though not, 
called swearing, is derived from more 
vulgar terms, such as, I'll be blamed, I'll, 
be sinked, I'll be drot, fetch your heart, 
confound, dad blast, by dad, by the life, 
by the wars, I'll go to guinea, go to grass, 
I'll give you the devil, &c. &o. We say, 
the scriptures of the Old and New Testa- 
ment are the word of God, and only rule, 
of faith and practice; and I am sure it war-; 
rants no such language, for it says, let 
your conversation be yea, yea, and nay, 
nay; for whatsoever cometh more is of 
evil. And do we think the world does 
not notice it, or that our light is shining? 
Surely not. 

And again: How many of us through 
pride and a stout heart, fail to go to our 
brethren and acknowledge our wrong in 
crimes committed njjainst them, and for 
which we stand condemned by the word 
of God, and convicted at the bar of our, 

own conscience, when the word says; Corf- 
fess your faults one to another, praying 
with and for one another. 

Again: How many of us indulge our na- 
ture in covetousness, which is idolatry. 
This improper course is manifest in many 
ways, but perhaps in none more visible 
in this time of distress, than in that of 
exacting unlawful usury, by which we are 
guilty of a flagrant violation of the law of 
God and man; and that, that is contrary to 
the law of God and man, I know is moral- 
ly wrong. That it is contrary to the law of 
the land I presume none will doubt, be- 
cause that the law requires or admits, it 
will approbate; and you all know that in 
this State, and all with which I am f;i mili- 
ar, the law will not collect it. Hence 
while we are admonished to be subject to 
the higher powers, and to obey every ordi- 
nance of man, &c. we disregard the word, 
bid defiance to the law, and thus become a 
transgressor. But perhaps you are ready 
to excuse, yourself by endeavoring to make 
it appear that others are transgressors; and 
this you attempt by saying, any thing is 
usury, if we take one cent it is 'usury; 
which will make it necessary for us to turn 
pur attention to the best authority we can, 
as regards the import of the term. Mr. 
Taylor, the author of the Scriptural Dic- 
tionary and Concordance, says, (usury is 
most commonly taken for an unlawful pro- 
fit, which a person makes off his money or 
goods) By which we learn, if he uses 
either in an unlawful way, he is guilty of 
usury. Again: He says, the Hebrew 
word for usury signifies biting; and if the 
practice indulged in by many professed 
Christians in pining upon the necessities 
of the poor and the needy is not biting and- 
devouring their substance, I confess 1 am 

Again: We try it by the first and great 
commandment: As ye would men should 
do to you, do ye also unto themj for upon 
this hang all the law and the prophets. 
And again: Thou shalt love the Lord thy 
God with all thy heart, soul, mind, and 
strength, and thy neighbor as thyself. 
Now, brethren, if you was in distress, 
would you your neighbor should let you 
have money at 8 per cent., \2\, 16, 25? 
Speak out. Again: Let us see if the word 
forbids it. If it does, surely you that say 
it is the only rule of faith and practice, 
will not presume to practice contrary; if 
you do, will you not act like some the Sa- 
viour said drew near and honored him with 



their tongue, while their heart was afar off? 
Will it not be siying, Lord, Lord, and yet 
not do what he say*? To the law and to 
the testimony, which is the only infallible 
rule. Exodus, 22 c. 25 v.: If lh»u lend 
money to any of mv people thai is poor by 
thee, thou shalt not he lohim as an usurer, 
neither shalt thou lay upon him usury'. 
Deut. 23. 19*. Thou shalt not lend upon 
usury to thy brother, usury of money, usu- 
ry of victuals, usury of any thing that is 
lent upon usury. Neh. 5 c. 6,7,S: And I 
was very angry when I heard their cry 
and these words. Then I consulted with 
myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the 
rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, 
every one of his brother. And I set a 
great assembly against them. And I said 
unto them, We after our ability have re- 
deemed our brethren the Jews, which 
were sold unto the heathen; and will ye 
even sell your brethren? or shall they be 
sold unto us? Then held they their peace, 
and found nothing to answer. Read the 
9, 10, 11, 12 and 13 verses. Jeremiah, 
15. 10: Wo is me, my mother, that thou 
hast borne me a man of strife and conten- 
tion to the whole earth! I have neither 
lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on 
usury; yet every one of them doth curse 
me. By which we see the contempt the 
practice was held in, in the days of the 

We now go to the 15th Psalm and 5th 
verse, and take a look at the inhabitant of 
Zion, as there described, and compare his 
conduct with many that seem to think they 
will never be moved. Now it comes: He 
that putteth not out his money to usury, 
nor taketh reward against the innocent; he 
that doeth these things shall never he rro- 
ved. Usurers, do you think you favor 
him? Is ycyjr conduct like his? Jesus has 
said, follow me. Do you find any thing 
of the kind on his track? As ye receive 
Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him. 
Did you receive him in that way? Was 
there a disposition of that kind in your 
breast, at the time you saw by faith God re- 
conciled through the death of his Son. 

I will now give you fair play, by bring- 
ing forward all the arguments in favor of 
the practice I have ever heard, and an- 
swering them in turn. The first is: My 
money is my own, and I have a right to do 
with it as I please. I will grant jou have, 
in one sense, but not in another, viz: your 
money is your own, and as a man you have 
a right to bet it upon a horse race; but if 

you wa9 to do it, would you «ay you was 
justifiable. I think not. Well, why not? 
It would not be a violation of the law of the 
land, and I will give you till Christmas to 
find as many places where horse racing is 
fn bidden in so many words and unequivo- 
cal declarations as that of usury. You 
have a right to giv«- your money for whis- 
key and get drunk; hut would you not, in 
t]ge exercise of that right, violate a positive 
command of God? If yea, then recollect 
that drunkenness and covetousness ares 
classed together. 2nd, you say, to restrict 
me in the use of my money is taking away 
my liberty. • And does not the word'tell 
us, not to use our liberty for an occasion to 
the flesh? 

3rd, You say, instead of my' loaning at 
16,20, and 25, per cent, being an inju- 
ry to my neighbor, it has done him good. 
Well, brother, by this argument you give 
us to understand your object is to do good; 
you are told to do good unto all men, and 
especially to the household of faith. Now, 
my brother, if your object is to do good, 
why not pursue the course calculated to do 
the most good; for surely of you benefit- 
ted him by letting him have money at 12^, 
1 6, or 25 per cent., you could have bene- 
! fit'ed him just that much more by let- 
jting him have it at S; and if you had it to 
spare 12$, 16, or 25, you had it to spare 
and could have taken S. But you say your 
conscience has never smitten you for it. 
No, nor never will, till you are convicted 
of the. wrong; for notwithstanding David 
was guilty of adultery and murder, .we 
have no account of any distress on his 
part till the Prophet was sent to him. And 
so I thought there was no harm in retail- 
ing spirits till I saw the evil, but now I re- 
gret it the most of any act of mine sinco 
I made profession of the religion of Je- 

But you siy, 1 cinnot see the difference 
between my ioaning money at 25 per cent, 
and making 25 percent, in any other trade. 
Then, my brother, you cannot see the dif- 
feience between violating a positive com- 
mand of God, and not violating. But 
you will say, why has the Almighty 
restricted money and victuals, and not oth- 
er things? Now if you will answer me 
one question then I will answer yours, viz: 
why did he have the anointing oil put ur>- 
on the priest's light ear, & right thumb, & 
right great toe, & not on the left? You will 
say, because wisdom saw fit. And I, because 
he is God and none dare say, Jehovah, u hy 



or what docst thou. Rut I would infer 
this; money t is the circulating rhodium of 
the countries, and victuals support life, 
and money procures it. But you will say, 
I had as well do it as others. By this you 
infer two things: 1st, that because others 
do wrong that tolerates you in doing wrong. 
2nd, that you as a professor of religion are 
under no more obligation in a religious 
point of view than any other man; nafc- 
Withstanding the Almighty told Israel not 
to do as the people amongst whom they 
should dwell, and has told us to come 
out, touch not, taste not, handle not, &c. 

But you will say, many want it to specu- 
late upon. But arc you obliged to let them 
have it, and that on terms by which you 
disobey the command of God? But you 
Say, the scripture -says: Owe no man. 
Granted, but do you understand by that, 
that the owing of a just debt which you in- 
tend to pay and do pay, is a crime; and 
the contracting of it a transgression a- 
gainst God? If yea, pray tell me if you 
are not accessary to that crime by loaning 
one money at 25 per cent. ; and by exacting 
25 you cause him, according to your reason- 
ing, tocommit a greater crime than he would 
if you had let him have had it at S. And 
I would say, displayed far less of that be- 
nevolent spirit that dwelt in the Redeemer. 
But you will say, they had no business to 
get in debt >i( Do you know that? have you 
in a few short years forgot the days of thy 
poverty? O that we could be more like 
old David, he never forgot the hole of the 
pit from whence he was digged. But I 
will admit, that people have gone in debt 
unnecessarily; but has that changed your 
relationship to them or your God, or altered 
his command, or made the man your ene- 
my instead of brother and neighbor? 
Could his wife and children help it, and 
does that authorise you to pursue a course 
of conduct that is calculated to fetter him 
and them in poverty all their days? does 
it look like you loved him as yourself? 
I think not. What say you? 

And again. Man had no business to 
sin, but he did. Now had Jesus have acted 
according to what you infer, or like you act, 
where would we all have been? The man 
that went from Jerusalem to Jericho had no 
business to go that I know of, but he did 
go. And the priest and Levite passed on 
either side, but when the good Samaritan 
came in hisjourney, he did not say, you had 
no business here; but he came to where he 
was, and poured in the oil and wine, and 

bound up his wounds, and placed hirft oti 
his own beast and brought him to the inn; 
and when he was about to depart, he did 
not make calculation and charge him 25 
per cent., but took out two pence and gave 
the host and said, whatsoever he spendeth 
more when I come again I will repay thee. 
Did not this look mightly like a neighbor? 
Was not this conduct calculated to break 
the poor- man down in gratitude,, and con- 
vince him of the friendship of the other? 
I think it was much better calculated to do 
it, than if he had made a heavy charge. 
(What say you?) But you will say, that 
it is no worse than many others do. Gran- 
ted, but in that you acknowledge both are 
wrong; and one wrong has never justified 
another. I admit 1 could do equally as 
bad, viz: if no other person had medicine 
but me, and it was a time of sickness and 
distress, and I would take advantage of the 
circumstance to raise the price of medicine 
above what I would have taken, if it had 
not been for the circumstances, the princi- 
ple would be precisely the same. 

Brethren, I object to the practice: 1st, be- 
cause it Is a violation of the law of the 
land. 2nd, it is a violation of the law of 
God. 3rd, it is taking the advantage of 
the condition of the brother, or neighbor. 
4th, it brings reproach upon religion, for 
I have often heard the world make remarks 
disrespectful of professors on that ground. 
5th, it is not letting our light shine. 6th, it 
arises from covetousness, which is said to 
be idolairy. 7th, it is tending to aristocra- 
cy. 8th, it is no where wanted in the scrip- 
lures, nor by the usages of Christ and his 

0, brethren, we profess to be Primitive 
Baptists, and to square our conduct by the 
word; if we go back to Primitive princi- 
ples, do let us go back to Primitive prac- 
tice also; and you know usury was not 
found in the practice of the apostles nor 
among brethren forty years ago. Do think 
of the great responsibility we are under 
to God, to our children, our neighbors and 
all; & let us lay aside every weight and the 
sin which doth so easily beset us, and run 
with patience the race set before us, looking 
unto Jesus who is the author and .finisher 
of our faith. Your unworthy brother 
in tribulation. 


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May 22nd, 1840. £ 
D.EAR brethren Editors: Thro' the 



mereyof akind Redeemer, I am permitted | 
to write a few lines for the Primitive; not 
because I can write so well, but I wish the 
cause or principle well, and have to write 
for some more copies. 

I am glad to hear in the Prim, that the 
old brethren ( are gaining ground in many 
places — truth is mighty and must prevail. 
I believe in a God that has all power in hea- 
ven and in earth, and that works all things 
after the counsel of his own will. There- 
fore, I have no doubt but all the elect will 
be regenerated, and be brought home to 
glory. I conclude by saying, as did the 

May I be there that sight to see, 
And join in praise to Jesus' name — 
All glory in the highest strainSi 

I subscribe myself your unworthy bro- 
ther in tribulation. 



Pittsylvania county, Virginia, } 
j9pril2d, 1S40. S 

Dear Brethren: And beloved of the 
Lord, as I hope — may the God of all grace, 
truth and mercy bless us with the under- 
standing of truth, which no other can do; 
for he is the giver of every good and per- 
fect gift. Then, brethren, let us look to 
him and pray unto him, for good desires, 
for right thoughts, and for all things that 
he sees is good for us to have here; for he 
is God and there is none other,' and he can 
work and none can hinder, and will carry 
on all his work, whether in life or eterni- 
ty, and none can hinder him. This is the 
God that 1 wish to worship, and ibis is Is- 
rael's God. 

But there are some Baptists here that 
seem to think, that God is trying by the 
Lord Jesus Christ to get all mankind. But 
they will not let him get them, and so 
make out that God is hindered; which is 
not the truth, for the word says: Me works 
and none can hinder. So, my friends, you 
see that these work mongers are wrong, 
for what the Lord purposelh shall come lo 
pass. And I believe, that the Lord did 
purpose the salvation of every soul that 
ever will be saved before the world was; 
and his purpose shall come to pass. And 
it is not, if you will nor if he can; but, 
shall come to pass. And again: It is writ- 
ten, thy people shall be a willing people in 
the day of thy power. See Isaiah, 45 ch. 1 
verse. The Lord here is promising good 

to his people, or to the church of Christ, 
which he gave to him in covenant before 
the world was. Here the Lord says by 
the mouth of his prophet: Thus saith the 
Lord to his anojnted, to Cyrus, whose right 
hand I have holdcn, to subdue nations be- 
fore him; and I will loose the loins of 
kings, to open before him the two-leaved 
gates, and the gates shall not be shut. 

Here, brethren, it is s^iid that the Lord 
loosed the loins of Ihe kings, lo open be- 
fore Cyrus. Then it was not the kings, 
nor Cyrus, that loosed the loins of the 
kings; but it was the Lord that had the 
gates opened, and he says, Ihey shall not 
be shut. And it did not depend on Cy- 
rus to keep the gates open, for the Lord 
said, they shall not be shut; and as the 
Lord did keep the gates open for his Cy- 
rus, so he will keep the way of salvation 
open for all his people, and will save them 
with an everlasting salvation. And so 
you, my brethren, if renewed by grace, 
the gate is opened to you and shall not be 
shut. So you cannot fall from grace, for 
you are kept by the power.of God through 
faith unto salvation, and not by your own 
strength; for it was not Cyrus that kept 
Ihe gate open, for the Lord said, they shall 
not be shut. And so it shall be again. 

See the 9th verse: Wo unto him that 
striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd 
strive with the potsherds of the earth. 
Here we may understand that the things of 
the earth may contend with the things of 
the earth, but not with their maker; like 
many of the Baptists do in this day of er- 
ror, and all the Ishmaelites do when they 
den}' that God has a right to choose his 
creatures. But I say he has, and will have 
his chosen people in spite of all that men 
and devils can do or say. And I do not 
believe that any one, but one who is a co- 
worker with the devil, will object to God's 
choosing his own people. Again: Shall 
the clay say to him that fashionelh it, 
what makest thou or thy works, he hath 
no hands. 

See the 10th verse: Wo unto him that 
saith unto his father, what begcttest thou? 
or to the woman, what hast thou brought 
forth? Here, brethren, we find that the 
prophet was showing that Ihe potters or 
mechanics had a right to contend with 
each other on ihe earth, but the thing for- 
med by them had no right to find fault of 
him who formed it. So no man should 
say to their creator, what or why hath 
thou framed me thus, or so; for has not 

J 93 



6 1 . Carolina, Anderson disl. ? 
25/ h May, 1S40. > 
Dear Brethren: Having had an oc- 
casion to write to our friend, Mr. How- 
ard, I felt desirous of closing with a few 
remarks to you. Our little church, which 
was re-established about a year ago, has 
doubled i's nomb<-r; for which we feel de- 
sirous to i hank God, and not nnan. For I 
assure you that every let and hindrance 
thai the wicked one could devise, and that 
could he wielded b}'- fanaticism and blind 

the smith a right lo maks what he will out 
of his'own iron? He has, and thefthing 
formed has no right to say to him, what 
hast thou made? So it is written: Wo to 
that man that contends wV-n his maker. 
Then God has a right to do what he will. 
and we as his Creatures have no right to 
gay he is unjust, as many do; but it is for 
the lack of understanding^ and that must 
come from God, and cannot bo got at the 
theological schools. No, it is the gift of 
God, for it is written: These things are 
hid from the wise and prudent, and reveal- 
ed unto babes. So God has a right Vo 

hide, and a tight to reveal. We should j z al, has been brought to hear upon us in 
eay: Lord, do thy pleasure on earth, as ( this our determined march through these 
thou doth in heaven. low grounds of sin and sorrow; where we 

See the 22d verse: Look unto me, and will lake nothing for the rule of our faith 
lie ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for and practice, but. the revealed word of God; 
I am God, and there is none else. This is and are determined to know nothing a- 
t>ne text that the Arminians claim, and say, I mong our brethren but Jesus Christ and 
that the Lord calls all the world to look I him crucified. Professing as we do, to be- 
10 him; which is not. the truth, for he .• lieve in a revealed word and a revealed re- 
does not call the middle of the world lo ligion, such as our master meant when he 
look to him; no, it is the ends of the i said: "Blessed art thou, Simon Baijonah, 
■world. Well, some say, what is the ends for flesh and blood hath not revealed this 
of the world? 1 say, it is them that the unto thee, hut my Father which is in hea- 
Lord has given sight to see their lost and ' 
condemned situation; and then they will 
fco to work and try every plan that the 
world, the flesh, and the devil can invent, 


Believing in the entire necessity of the 
work of the Holy Spirit upon the sinner's 
heart; and Jonah-like, that salvation is of 
for their justification, and only get worse ' the Lord: For by grace ye are saved thro' 
and worse. And when they have done all ! ( ~a<th, and that not of yourselves, it is the 
they can, and have worked out of the l gift °f God — we are often brought in con- 
world, then it is that this text will do for ! t >ct with the missionists of our day. But 
Ihem, when they are brought to say: Lord when they approach us, we hold out the 
gave, or I perish — for they have no more I ol<1 ^ ooli at them, and enquire for a thus 
to do. Then it is the lime that the words, ' S;,itl > the Lord. This for a while proved 
look unto me all ve ends of the world, will T lite sufficient, but with the help of that 
be thankfully received with joy that is in- oltl arch demon, they have jumbled up 
expressible and full of glory. And these ! wi,at they call an answer, by retorting up- 
*re ihey that are at the ^nd of the world, i on uS to show a thus sgith for building 
f ir i have been there. ! know when 1 had j houses. 

tione all 1 could do, or think to do, I saw 
nothing but death and damnation for me, 
and i was done work, and all I could say 
was, Lord, have mercy. ■ When every 
thing became dark, as it were, and I was 
wbpressed as if I must sink in a moment. 
Then and there I hope 1 leaned the mean- 
ing of this text, for when it did seem to that 1 was at the end of the world, and 
one more step would get me out of it, I 
he*ard the word: Look unto me. and be ye 
paved, &c. — and then I had light, joy, 
j» ace, and comfort. 

My sheet is fuil, or 1 would say more. 
So farewell. As ever vour brother. 


Now, my brethren, we are taught by 
daily experience to know, tint the means 
for building houses and other convenien- 
ces, are procured by labor. Now how 
Ions would it take a man at hard work lo 
earn the means that it would take to save 
a single soul? We are likewise taught thiit 
money will command all sublunary things, 
but we are led to discover a very serious 
mi-take, when applied to spiritual affairs, 
as in the case of Simon JV'lagus, And 
when we reflect that nothing short of the 
blood of Jesus Christ con ever cleanse a 
soul and make it free from sin, such is the 
contrast, or rather monstrous presumption, 
that 1 feel inclined to spare even those who 



have made the remark the humiliating re- 
flection. I leave this part of their system, 
and come to another point that I think de- 
serves a passing notice. 

I was asked by one of their divines, if I 
did not think, that in this our great day of 
improvement, that the sinner's heart was 
more susceptible of religious impressions 
than in years that have past, or even In the 
days of the apostles? 1 thought not. He 
contended that they were, and urged th8 
teachableness of the human mine), inter- 
spersed with a quotation or two of scrip- 
ture, which he tortured so as to make it 
answer his purpose. 

A very slight examination will show 
where such a plan as this is will run: If a 
sinner gets a little better and a little better, 
without the assistance of regenerating 
grace, of course they will after a while ar- 
rive at perfection. Thus nullifying the 
whole plan of salvation, as laid down by 
God himself. But, my brethren, this 
like all the rest of their mess that they are 
attempting to cram down the throats of the 
Old Regular Baptists, is nothing but wild 
gourds, by trying to teach us, that we are 
not dependent on God for none of the 
ordinances of his church, much less for the 
gift of his holy spirit and a preached gos- 

P eI - 

But. brethren, whatever maybe the opini- 
ons of others on these matters, 1 feel that if 
Jesus Christ did not live a life of complete 
righteousness, and that for me — if he did 
not die on Calvary for my sins, if he did 
notarise from the dead .for my justification, 
and if he is not now seated on the right 
hand of the majesty on high as my inter- 
cessor, I am gone, forever gone. For noth- 
ing short of the all restraining power of 
Jehovah himself, could keep me from 
falling. And finally, if my eternal salva- 
tion depended upon any of my good does, 
or if there was one single iota for me to do 
in the work of regeneration, I have never 
done it, and must sink down to intermina- 
ble woe. Yet, my brethren, I have a hope 
that it has pleased God to reveal himself 
through his Son to my heart, at which 
time I do think that I rejoiced with joy un- 
speakable and full of glory; and that to 
God too, and not to man. And I believe, 
dear brethren, so sure as God lives and has 
pardoned our sins, so sure shall we meet 
in the paradise of rest, where the anthems 
of the happified saints will for ever be 
grace, grace, all conquering grace. There 
will be no discordant sounds in heaven, no 

deluded soul will ever be permitted to en- 
ter the pearly gates of the New Jerusalem, 
who would fain sing a few praises to God 
for redeeming grace and dying love, and 
a short hymn to himself for his admirable 
ability in working out his own salvation. 
So thinks and acts to the best of his feeble 
abilities, a lay member of old Mountain 
Creek church, and yours as ever in 
the bonds of love. JVM. S. SHAW. 


Hickory Q rove, Bibb county, Ga. 
24th May, 1840. 

Dearly beloved in tiie Loud: f 
have been silent for a considerable time, in 
order to give place to my brethren; for I 
have been well pleased with their commu- 
nications, until No. 7, 5th vol. commen- 
cing under page 98, which the brother calls 
a true exposition of Bethesda. Now, 
I must beg leave to differ from the brother. 
The evangelist John says: There is at 
Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, 
which is called in the Hebrew tongue Be- 
thesda, having five porches, &c. Now I 
believe there was such a pool in the Jays 
of our Saviour, and 1 believe if there had 
been no such pool, John would not have said 
there was. We find that John wrote his gos- 
pel last of all, and being divinely inspired 
by the Holy Ghost, as the other three, and 
seeing that they had left out a number of 
passages which would be profitable for the 
churchof Christ, was moved on in like man- 
ner by the Holy Ghost to write his gospel. 
. Now, my dear brethren, 1 would just as 
soon believe that there was no marriage 
in Cana of Galilee, where Jesus turned the 
water to wine, as 1 would believe there 
was no pool near the sheep market at Je- 
rusalem, called Bethesda. Or, I would 
as soon believe that Nicodemus never went 
to Jesus by night, or that Jacob's well was 
not in Sycar, a city of Samaria, where Je- 
sus conversed with the woman of Samaria, 
or that he never washed his disciples' feet 
after supper, as I would believe there lite- 
rally never was such a pool near Jerusalem 
as Bethesda. Again: I would just as soon 
believe that Peter and John, (the same 
John) never healed the lnme man at the 
beautiful gate of ihe temple, as to believe 
Jesus did not heat the impotent man at 
the pool of Bethesda, near the sheep mark- 
et at Jerusalem. 

Now, brethren, let us hear our brother's 
reasons for hot believing such a pool really 



dicT-exist iis the days of our Saviour. He has I 
reference to all the builders, re-builders and 
topographers cotemporary with Solomon, 
Ezra, Nehemiah, Zerubbabel, and Herod. 
He seems to think that their silence on the 
subject proves the fact, that there was no 
such pool near Jerusalem. Now I think his 
testimony comes far short of proving the 
point at issue, for they have none of them 
said there was no such a pool at Jerusa- 

Now, my dear brother, your believing 
there was such a pool as Bethesda at Jeru- 
salem, would not make any thing against 
your explanation of the subject at all; but 
I think it would far more abundantly tend 
to strengthen your explanation of the sub- 
ject, and give it more weight on the minds 
of your readers. Brethren, does not the 
apostle Jude tell us to earnestly contend 
for the scriptures once delivered to the 
saints? O no, the faith. Right. But is not 
the scriptures the foundation of our faith? 
O yes. Well then, why not earnestly con- 
tend for both? For if we sap the founda- 
tion, the building must fall ; or, if we cut out 
one link of the chain, then the chain is bro- 
ken. We ought to be very careful and 
cautiT»us how we hand out our new idea.'', 
my brethren; we ought to examine 
them close, and weigh them well in the 
balances, lest they should be found want- 

Now, brethren, I am like an old brother 
once said. When he was asked to give his 
opinion on a certain text of scripture, for an- 
swer he said, he believed just as Fuller did. 
Now, brethren, I believe just as John said; 
for John says: Now there is at Jerusalem 
by the sheep market a pool, which is called 
in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having 
live porches. Now I believe, that in these 
five porches lay a multitude of candidates 
for healing; and 1 believe, that an angel 
went down at a certain season in the pool 
and troubled the water; and I believe, that 
the first that stepped in then was healed 
of whatsoever disease hehad; and I believe, 
this impotent man had been in that case 
for thirty and eight years. But 1 do not 
undertake to say, that he had been lying 
at the pool all the time; but this much we 
know he had* been there long enough to 
have his bed there. Now it appears that 
this man's case was rather different from 
the rest, for he could not get in as soon as 
some of the rest; for he had no man to put 
him in when the water was troubled, and 
perhaps the rest had. ? 

Now, brethren, I believe that God in the 
economy of his word, has been pleased to 
hold up to our view spiritual tilings by tem- 
poral things; & I believe in ihe pool being a 
lively figure of the gospel; &. this impotent 
man appears to have had no man to help 
him into the pool, while some of the rest 
perhaps were provided with men to help 
them, and thereby obtained a cure more 
quick and easy. Now Jeremiah says: 
From the prophet to the priest they deal 
falsely, for they have healed the hurt 
of the. daughier of my people slight- 
ly, saying peace, peace, when there is no 

Now to the law and to the testimony, to 
the vine and the branches me now come. 
1 am the true vine and my Father is the 
husbandman; every branch in me that 
beareth not fruit he takcth away, and eve- 
ry branch that beareth fruit he purgeth it, 
that it may bring forth more fruit Now 
we are told, that by their fruit we are to 
know them; do men gather grapes of 
thorns, or figs of thistles. Those healed 
slightly by getting into the pool so easy, 
ihey appear not to be united to the vine by 
a living faith, and their fruit appears not to 
be the true grapes of Canaan, but wild 
gourds; they do not abide in Christ's com- 
mandments, but in manism, therefore they 
are cast forth as branches to wither. 

Not so with the impotent man at the 
pool, for his case was beyond the reach of 
manism, and he had to lie there till Jesus 
passed by. And this is the case with eve- 
ry Iruly convicted soul. I mean till Jesus 
passed by in his word and says: Son, or 
daughter, be of good cheer, thy sins be for- 
given thee. 

Now having answered my part, and gi- 
ven you my opinion, I shall leave the sub- 
ject, hoping, trusting, and praying, that 
the Loid may guide and direct us by his 
holy and divine spirit into all truth. 1 
ftha.ll next olfer you a few lines of poetry 
which 1 have tried to compose on tho 
swiftness of time, at the close of the last & 
the commencement of the present year. 

Now eighteen thirty-nine is past, 
And eighteen forty come at last; 
So time like Jehu drives a head 
And rolls along and leaves us deadi 

Time like a spring that never fails, 
Or like a ship that onward sails; 
Time like the eagle swiftly goes, 
And drives us to our long reposei 

Time like a river moves along. 
Its current swift and ever strong; 



Till we are moved on its wave, 
And carried swiftly to the grave. 
Time like a bridge we mortals pass, 
And travel to the end so fast; 
But O beware, how time is spent, 
And look to Jesus and repenti 

Time like a road, we mortals go 
To joys on high, or endless woe; 
We onward moving like the wave, 
And end our journey in the grave. 

Time like a reaper moves along, 
And mows down all both weak and strong; 
And so the strongest time must kill, 
And we are hurried onward still. 

Time like the wind that blows along, 
And bears us on its wings so strong; 
Till we on Jordan's banks shall stand, 
And thereto view, the proinis'd land. 

This promis'd land a chosen spot, 
Was Israel's fair and happy lot; 
But over Jordan we must, go, 
The land where milk and honey flowi 

We must not, cannot, should not, stay, 
In all the plains that's on the way. 
But we must onward moving go, 
To heavenly joys, or endless woe. 

But when the trumpet sounds aloud, 
We'll meet King Jesus in the cloud; 
And there we'll join the happy throng, 
And praise our Jesus in our song. 

And now, my dear brethren, may God 
Almighty of his abundant goodness, be 
pleased to govern us and guard us, rule us 
and guide us by his holy and divine spirit 
into all truth, is mv prayer for the Redeem 
er'ssake. BENJAMIN MAY. 


SATURDAY, JULY 11, 1840. 


I may be expected on Saturday, 1st August, at 
Mearn's Chapel, Nash: on Sunday, 2nd, at Ree- 
dy Creek, Warren: the 3rd August, at Brown's: 
4th, at Tar River, Granville: 5th, at FJat River, 
Person: — Thence the brethren will arrange so as 
to bring me to BushArbor, 2nd Saturday and Sun- 
day in August — Thence so as to bring me to the 
session of the Country Line Association, and 
thence to that of Abbot's Creek Union. 


Bdgeeonibe, N. C. June, 1840. ' 


Edgecombe county, N. C. > 
is I June, 1840. $ 
Well, George, the publisher, and Old 
School Editors, I have not troubled any of 
you much with my writings lately; for I 

feel like an old man sitting in the shade, 
and rejoicing to see his sons at work, ta- 
king the labor off his hands. So do the 
writers in the Primitive feel to me, in the 
cause for which I have suffered so much. 
Well done, boys; lay on, keep at it until 
the night of death comes, and you wilt do 
a good days work of life. And I say, 
boys, all of you do what you can. Sure- 
ly, some of you are older and stronger 
than others, yet the smaller should do 
some, or what they can, in God's vineyard. 
I invite the pen of M. Bennett, a Mose- 
ley, Patman, Paxton, llyman, Hassell, 
Temple, J. Biggs, C. T. Echols, and all 
the writers of the Primitive, and other 
Old School Baptists, to fill up the pages of 
the Primitive with their several g*iffs, for 
diversity sake and the support of so good 
and so great a cause as that of the Old 
School Baptists. For it is the cause of 
God, I know, by the Book and my own 
heart's evidence. 

Yet like an old man who has set in the 
shade and rested himself, I pick up my old 
slump of a hoe and help you, boys, what I 
can; cut down a few weeds, if I can do 
no more. For I see some yonder, that if 
let alone will make the plants sickly, cum- 
ber the ground, and should they go 1o 
seed, 1 know their nature; they are as poi- 
sonous as hypocrisy, as deadly as division 
among brethren, as painful as the sting of 
discord, and non-fellowship, and disunion; 
as bad as the blast of the east wind to the 
fruits of the tree of life, and as cursed as 
the serpent who goes on or for the belly; 
more painful than the points of thistles, 
and worse than the sting of nettles; as dan- 
g rous as the berries of night shade, and as 
distressing as war in a nation; as parching 
as drought on the plants of grace, as mise- 
rable as the famine of Egypt, or as locusts 
which eateth up every green herb, and rav- 
age a whole country for hire. Such are 
my thoughts and worse, of a hired mis- 

To the churches composing the Kebu- 
kee Association. Dear and beloved breth- 
ren, by candle light, the clock strikes 
eleven, and although ) ou may be buried irj 
sleep, yet my heart feels for you in such a 
manner, that 1 iay not my gray head to 
rest. While 1 see danger as a watchman on 
the walls of Zion, that will fall on you, I 
must cry aloud and spare no!; even you 
whom I love in the Lord to wake up, gird 
on every man his sword, for the thief Com- 
eth to steal and scatter the flock. 




1 know, my dear and beloved brethren, !ches, is to get back to old Baptist ground, 
that you must believe that God made me This will give it to them, as it has our fore- 
t.he instrument to begin and carry on with fathers before the new schemes were in- 
all your assistance, the work of the Asso- troduced. And so the Kehukee Associa- 
ciation separating from the missionaries and j tion have found it, and all churches that 
schemes of the day. For after fifteen have tried it, and will try it, will find it 
years of observing their conduct and the iso; for the spirit of the new schemes of the 
bad fruits of argument, division, disunion, j day is a hypocritical, lying, money-ma- 

discord and strife, and non-fellowship, and 
backbiting, and evil surmising, and whis- 
pering, with every evil work, that des- 
troyed the peace and happiness of the chur- 

king, deceitful, and Christian-union and 
peace-destroying; spirit, if I am a judge, af- 
ter observing its effects for twenty odd 
years. Thus, in full belief of this fact, \t 

ches composing the Kehukee Association, commenced my opposition in preaching 
For such are the bad fruits of the new | and writing; and this night, when nearly 
schemes of the day, through all the States, jforty years old in the ministry, I am more 
as you may see by reading the Primitive; fully assured of the truth of my position, 

that they have been a worse curse to the 
Baptist society than all other things that 
have befel them since the organization of the 
Philadelphia Association, the first in the 

nor have ought to repent of in my opposi- 
tion to the schemes of the day. 

Now, my dear brethren, it is well known 
that the new scheme clan either want to 

United States. On seeing and observing i break the peace and harmony of the Kebu- 
tbese things for fifteen years, my heart and j kee Association, or else they' want to get 
head by the Book of God was in motion I money in its bounds, unfler the color for 
day and night, in the loss of hundreds of the love of our souls; when it is well 
candles, sleep, and paper, and money, to: known that many have been hired to go 
find out some way to restore peace and j into the bounds of the Kehukee Associa- 
union to the churches. Nor could I help j tion to preach, who are and do profess to 
it, from the pain I felt on the account there- | be the new schemers of the day, under the 
of. And had the churches adopted the pay of from two to three hundred dollars 
piece I wrote, called the Declaration, just i a year, from their confidents for pay, in- 
as I wrote it, which was presented to the stead of Jesus Christ. 1 ask the churches, 
Association at SUewarkey, hut must needs , do you want such men to preach to you 
be softened down by William Clark, at 

Little Creek Association, it would have 

who are hirelings? If you do, God I elp 
you. Put you will say, we have no prea- 

6aved me the trouble of writing this cher, and are glad to hear any sort. Why 
piece. do you not take the direction of Jesus 

After all the motion of heart and head, Christ, to pray the Lord of the harvest to 
and consulting the word of God, I began to i send you one? No, you are too prayer- 
write what I have heretofore written, and less, proud and stiff to do this; and would 
am of the same opinion to this day. And rather put up with an hireling to fleece you, 

I sometimes read my own writings, and 
did not know that ever such thoughts en- 
tered my head; yet, after many years, still 

than pray him to send you one to feed you 
with the sincere milk of the word. Do 
not be mad, for it is the good of the chur- 

I am of the same opinion, do not wish to jches I seek, while the clock strikes 2 
altera word in my writings concerning! In the Declaration I wrote, some of the 
the new schemes of the day. After all my brethren remember that there was a clause, 

meditations to re.-tore peace and union to 
the churches, this was the best plan I could 

to shut our pulpits against these hirelings; 
and although Clark modified and softened 

faH upon. Now, said I, if all the church- that clause, yet the churches must come to 

es composing this Association, have been 
in peace and union for fifty years, and the 
Baptist church in peace and union and one- 
ness of sentiment from Georgia to Maine, 
surely their old principles gave it to them. 
And the disturbance, division, disunion 
and strife, have arisen from the introduc- 
tion of the new schemes of the day. Then 
said I, by night to myself, the only way to 
get peace and union again among thcehur-land have you not read enough yet to con- 

it, or the last error will be worse than the 
first. For the children of Hagar and Sa- 
rah cannot live in peace, the Isaacs must 
and will be mocked by the Ishmaelites un- 
til cast out; then let the churches out with 
them, the sooner the better, if you will 
take my advice. 

My beloved brethren, have you not felt, 
haee you not seen, have you not heard, 



Tince you of the church-dividing and 
peace destroying spirit of the new schemes 
of the day to satisfy you, that that conduct 
or spirit, or new inventions that break the 
peace and union of the children of God, 
cannot be of God? For God by. his spirit 
has called all his children, be they great or 
small, to peace, union, and love. Of this 
you cannot doubt, for your hearts witness 
the fact, if you be a child of God. How 
then, can the new schemes of the day be of 

had such contrary effect? Answer me. 
The clock strikes 3, and I must lay my 
hoary locks to res', not forgetting the wel- 
fare of the churches. 

It is repotted to me, by high authority, 

place, not to publish any missionary appointment 
in the second place, not to go to hear them; in 
the third place, shut your pulpits against them. 
For John says: If they bring not this doctrine re- 
ceive them not into your houses, (he means prea- 
ching houses,) nor bid them God speed- For 
the churches do know, that missionaries do not 
bring our doctrine. In the fourth place, give 
them no money; but let the Chowan Association 
and others pay these hirelings, who fend them in 
among us to disaffect and make inroads and dis- 

God, which in .he Baptist churches have turbance among the churches. This has been my 

determination and act ever since I took my deci- 
ded stand; nor have I aught of guilt in conscience 
for so doing, to withstand those hirelings and 
church and family peace destroyers. For they 
have been a curse to the Baptist churches through- 

that several men are and have been tour- j out the States, is my testimony, as well as in 
in.g about among our churches. 1 ask you, 
what is the design of such men? They 
must know that the churches composing 
the Kehukee Association have put her ve- 
to on the new schemes of the clav. Yet 
these men will in one place say the) are not 
missionaries, in others that they are, in 
others that they are favorable lo the beg- 

South America. Read the history thereof, and 
the Primitive, for proof of this fact. 

Who is he that does not know, that lias paid 
attention to missions, that John Rynald, Reynold 
Hogg, William Cary, John Sulcliff, and Andrew 
Fuller, were the late originators of missions in 
England, lo send missionaries to India? And I 
say, the better to crnquer that country. For it is 

ging system, in other places that they have , , . , 

p o J . . ' . , r J I well known that Jingl and lias ripped up the bow 

been missionaries hut now are not, vet are 

in favor of the scheme. Lyirtg «nd beg- 
ging have long been the trade of some mis- 
sionaries, I know, accompanied with Ar- 
minian doctrines. If the churches want 
lies preached to them, why get a missiona- 
ry preacher; or if you want your peace 
and unity destroyed, and fellowship bro- 
ken, why open your pulpit doors to mis- 
sionary preachers and you will soon have 
your fill of these things and worse, I assure 
the churches. 1 refer you to the Primi- 
tive to there see the cursed and painful ef- 
fects on the churches and Associations in 
the different States, that missions have had 
in rending churches and Associations, and 
destroying the peace, union and fellowship 
of the children of God. 

I tell the churches once more, that the spirit of 
the schemes of the day is a spirit to get money, a 
spirit of lyh'g hypocrisy, a spirit of false doc- 
trines, a peace-destroying and lazy spirit, that 

els of nations for plunder, and soaked the fields 
in blood for conquest of gold and territory. This 
is her character I say, in my opinion, after having 
perused her character in history for many years. 

In 1811, Doctor Cary wrote from India to Doe- 
tir Rogers of Philadelphia. Here Doctor Staugh- 
ton and Doctor Baldwin, the D. D.'s, got hold of 
missions. And from here Elder Martin Ross 
gets hold of this golden cup of the whore, and 
drinks deep in it; and introduces missions into the 
Kehukee Association, at Parker's meeting; house 
on Meherrin river, near a town called Murfreesbo- 
rough. I was there a delegate at the time. And 
the spirit of fissions was the same then in its be- 
ginning as it is now, a hypocriiical, plausible, 
overbearing, moneyed, and Christian dividing 
spirit. So says old Lawrence, after observing its 
motion for many years, and its effect on the chur- 
chesi Had the good old minister, Elder Ross, 
have seen what that query on missions would 
have produced in the Kehukee Association, and 

wishes to live without work on the labor of oth- lhe Ba P list cl,lirches throughout the States, I be- 
ers, And the churches composing the Kehukee lieve he would as soon have had llis hair Packed 
Association may admit as many missionary prea- from the crown of 1,is head ' as t0 liave introduced 
chers into their pulpits as ihey see cause to do, asj ,lie c l uer i' ; whlch (i ' Jery you can see - irl 'ny wri- 
my opinion is that every church is an independent 

body; but I assure all the churches they will re- 
pent it in the end, for what has been may be agaitii 
Your peace and union will be destroyed thereby, 
The better way to do, and the safest for the 


and ur.icr. cf the churches, 

in the 

tings, or in the History of the Kehukee Associa- 

But big men as well as little ones are fond of 
new things, and this was new and very plausible 
to many; but my heart revolted at it, on its first 

g rst i;itrodi;ctijn. But as it came from the above doc- 



tors, who dare say nay] But my heart said nay, 
although being- a child among these ciders, 1 
opened not my lips. Then Doctor Baldwin, or 
Staughlon, my memory does not servo me which, 
endeavored to impose their pamphlets written on 
missions at Daniel's meeting house, on the mem- 
bers and churches of the Kehukee Association; 
which I saw would in the course of the year 
amount td about a thousand dollars. Here I got 
my gorge of missions. I saw plainly it was a 
religious money making spirit, and I detested and 
confronted it. But the churches declined taking 
his mission pamphlets, and the devil take them 
all for me, since they break the peace and union 
of the children of God. 

Next at the same Association came up the Gen- 
eral Meeting; the hobby of the elders, to be tho't 
great things of by being delegates to some other 
great General Meeting in Virginia, or elsewhere. 
But behold, when I listened and paid attention to 
these worthy elders and their talk, Elder William 

if the ladies of the North are sunk into such a 
state of degradation as that piece represents, God 
help them to their black husbands if they want 
therm The feeling of the ladies of the South has 
not sunk to this zero yet; and death will be in the 
pot, I feel assured, before it comes to this. And 
for one, I am ready; for to abolish slavery is the 
key-stone to intermarriage. 

Now, my dear and beloved brethren, I am not 
so sure that the missionaries have not done more 
harm in the Indian nations, in exciting them to 
hostility and preventing their emigration, than 
they ever done good. And I believe, although 1 
have no data, that they are at the bottom of some 
things going on between the Indians and our gov- 
ernmenti Search the History of America, and 
see whether the missionaries have ever done any 
good among the Indians, from the Mohawks to 
this day. I mean real good to the Indians, or to 
our nation, out of not less than one hundred and 
sixty tribes now extinct, theSeminoles nutexcep- 

Hyman, a none-such, in my opinion, and myself! le J as much better. Read the History of South 
soon found out, they were poking their hands into I America, to see what they done there, 
the Association fund at a dollar per day, to pay I With regard to missions to India, of which 
the delegates to this great General Meeting; we there has been so much writing and talking, who 

put our shoulders to the wheel, and overturned the 
whole fabric. Thus died this monster of unscrip- 
tural name, the General Meeting. 

At the Association at Kehukee meeting house,